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Corona, CA | I am a new owner of an 08 that I bought in November. I have had many bikes in the past and bought my Vision while I still owned a Gold Wing and a Road Star because I fell in love with the comfort and style of the bike. The Wing and Star are now gone because the Vision performs both roles for me - cruiser and touring bike.
Before I actually bought my bike, I searched the web for a forum that was like the GL1800 riders forum. Wow, what a wealth of knowledge is on that site !
rwilly commented "The bike is only 3 years old. Not much more can be said about it." The 1800 wing has been around for 10 years and they have a lot to say about it. There is virtually nothing you can ask that won't be answered by someone very quickly - and accurately. They even have a guy that disassembled his wing, did a bunch of maintenance and mods to it and put it back together - all on a DVD that he sells to help others do their own maintenance and mods. Anyone here up for that ??
This site is by far the best source of knowledge for the Vision. The VOG sucks and has no traffic and the others are just not up to the level of this forum.
Long before I pulled the trigger on my Vision, I went through all - and I mean ALL - of the past posts on this site to learn about the Vision. I wanted to know the problems that a dealer won't tell you about, the good points of the bike, stories of the mods and maintenance for the bike. It was all here in the search. BUT there are times when the search doesn't answer your exact question or it is old info and you want any new perspective on a topic. So a new question may seem like an old one asked being too lazy to do a search but often that is not the case.
I agree 100% with hoosiervic . When the bike came out there were only a few of you that could meet on the forum to compare and talk about the bike. You were the vanguard of this new owner group for the Vision. But just because you are tired of the repeated questions doesn't mean the rest are ! As Nozzledog said - sometimes you ask a question on an old thread and - crickets ! Post it on a new thread and you get a wealth of info. Explain that to me ?
I learned how to do the 99 LED's for the trunk. turn signal LED's, power up all the rear light by cutting a couple of wires, remove my trunk, install the Kury 4710 light kit, choose Atom Bombs for my exhaust, cure popping and stop belt squealing - all BEFORE I even owned a Vision ! That's because of the members of this forum and their input.
This does not have to be the water cooler of the Vision bunch and only limit talk to the few who came here first. As a matter of fact, I have found it very irritating to ask a question only to be ignored and have the thread hijacked by the "incrowd" commenting on using the search and "this has been beaten to death"
The new members - and there will be more and more as time goes on - have a thirst for knowledge of the Vision and keeping a forum alive by welcoming them and sharing is what it is all about. As soon as the snipping begins and the rude comments grow you will see the decline of the site.
Tolerance grasshopper !
I started a thread about the passenger backrest - OH MY GOD ! ANOTHER BACKREST QUESTION ! USE THE FN SEARCH ! Well I did, and there was a lot of info on the subject but not the answer I was SEARCHING for. I KNEW the backrest was out of production but I was looking for someone who knew of a dealer that I could get one from. Lots of good feedback from the question AND an offer from a member to sell me one - with a luggage rack ! (thanks lonewolf !). Try as I might and search forever and I would not have found his for sale. So the question, although seen as beaten to death by some, worked out great for me.
I have a question. Where are all the How To's ? It seemed like there were a bunch of the by radioteacher , varyder , KansasGuardsman , SongFan , Jedi Jeff and others but they are not the only ones that have tools. I think the best way to keep a site interesting is when members share what they have done with their bike WITH PHOTOS & VIDEOS to help others do these mods.
I have yet to see the often requested belt tightening video or rear wheel removal tutorial. Sure that's old stuff to some but not to the newer people.
I would have loved to see photos of a lowering done on a bike or a install of the VFC III or PC V showing the removal of the dreaded injector plugs. Even something as simple as the Lloydz IAC valve could use some real life photos to help out the next guy performing this mod. I would love to see photos or video of Kevin doing a cam installation.
As time goes on and these bikes go off warranty you will start seeing more guys doing their own fork rebuilds, shock replacements, clutch rebuilds and brake changes. Take photos and share with the rest of use that are headed that same direction !!
Giving to this forum is part of the process and in most cases - the most rewarding. If you want to sit around and shoot the s*** all day about days past, have the mods create a "The way it was" forum with admission limited to those who have had their bikes over three years. That should thin the herd for you !
By the way - What happened to Kevinx ? He seems to have dropped off the grid. Did someone offend him ? No more Cam Parties ?
Edited by team5150 2011-02-15 2:12 PM
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New Bohemia, Va | I think KevinX is overwhelmed, though I might be wrong. But I've noticed on theVMC.com there are talk of cam parties. He's the standing prez of the VMC. |
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SF Bay Area | Here's the deal... as the first Treasurer of the VMC (2 terms, 4 years), I can tell you that volunteering several hours a night can be challenging, as it take time away from other things like paid work, sleep, riding, etc. This forum is not a fee based membership site, and I fully understand any person not being able to devote a lot of time, whether volunteer, posting member, techie, or ?
The nature of sharing info & ideas is that anything is better than nothing. Public forums are only as good as one's expectations, so I, personally, do not expect much. My experiences in these types of forums have taught me to be helpful, but not too critical... this should be fun for everyone!
I know... .and idealistic view of bike forums, but I can tell you that from luring around in other forums... this one is very good, although rather quiet.
IMO, of course... |
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New Bohemia, Va | buddahead - 2011-02-15 2:42 PM
I know... .and idealistic view of bike forums, but I can tell you that from luring around in other forums... this one is very good, although rather quiet.
IMO, of course...
That's because the Slavemeister,  I mean the Webmeister likes to keep this forum low-key, though folks try to stir the pot. Plus, I think we gained at lot of ex-wingers and ex-bmwer which can be rather placid in my experience. Those old harley riders, well, that's another story, most of them riding a Vision now are just plain old and had to have something to soothe the hemoroids from riding those old rattle traps for to-many years. |
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| You want a new and exciting thread, OK, here ya go:
http://www.vision-riders.com/bb/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=8039&pos...
Watch as the hits go wild...
Edited by sgiacci 2011-02-15 3:32 PM
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Mount Vernon, WA United States | Well I don't really have a lot add to what Jeff and Team5150 stated. It is all about expectations.
A small note to make about the Kingpin, Vegas, Hammer and Cross Rider sites along with this Vision-Riders site..... There are only so many bikes built. There is only so much to talk about. Even with the Vision, as it's been around for a few years, there are only so many "NEW" owners. These sites as buddahead pointed out are NOT fee sites nor "member" sites. We are not a club, we just feel like one sometimes. We are all members of the bigger club of people who love (mostly) Victory motorcycles.
Our new members come mostly from new people interested in owning a Victory and it slants towards their newest major offering which is primarily the Vision. The other bikes have been around long enough where the people interested in knowing about the bike, already know about it.
So I think I can paraphrase what we are ALL saying is... Victory should just build a new, industry changing bike (like they did with the Vision) every couple of years, so we don't get bored and we have something new and fresh to talk about all the time!!!
So Victory folks if you are reading this... get on it!!!! I'm getting bored and I want a new industry changing bike to get all drool-from-the-mouth/bulge-in the-pants excited about.
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New Brunswick , Canada | Oh BTW " Welcome " Team5150 ;o) |
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Troy, NY | I agree with the comments about the new factor. Yes, we are in the 3rd year of the Vision. There has been so many great post about mods and such it is hard to come up with "new" stuff. I love this site and come hear for advice and tips and getting new info. It is still useful for that. One recommendation for the webmaster........maybe google search for the site? The search feature on the site is okay. It is easier for new people to post a new comment or question that has already been answered. I think the google search would provide quicker and better results. Or maybe there is a historical forum that has the key topics posted in some historical format so it is easier for new people to find the valuable info that has been posted.
I still think think this a good site!!! |
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| In response to the thread, I posted a humorous thread with a PG rating about sex to brighten everyone's spirits, and it was pulled. My god, I've seen and heard more graphic material on network TV, but it was pulled here. A motorcycle site, you have got to be kidding me.
You know what, I was thinking the exact same thing as the OP, and the moderators proved it. I'm done here, this place no longer has any appeal to me either.
Delete my account now, since I to, don't conform to the model you want here?
Edited by sgiacci 2011-02-15 9:11 PM
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Brighton, TN | Vaburningpantseatryder uh I mean capnilostmyshipnemo that's funny right there I don't care who ya are. Where'd the dang watercooler go to. Dagnabit. |
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New Bohemia, Va | sgiacci - 2011-02-15 9:09 PM
In response to the thread, I posted a humorous thread with a PG rating about sex to brighten everyone's spirits, and it was pulled. My god, I've seen and heard more graphic material on network TV, but it was pulled here. A motorcycle site, you have got to be kidding me.
You know what, I was thinking the exact same thing as the OP, and the moderators proved it. I'm done here, this place no longer has any appeal to me either.
Delete my account now, since I to, don't conform to the model you want here?
Stop whinning! You garnered enough attention to get a whole thread pulled! That's a feat to itself, most only get the freeze treatment. Post away.... |
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Central New York | Doesn't take much for some to get there undies in a bunch.  I have to admit that I pay little attention here in the winter. Going to a motorcycle forum when there is 4 feet of snow on the ground seems much the same as poking you finger in your eye.
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| For guys like myself in the Great White North, it's fairly difficult to get excited about riding when its -20F when you wake up twice a week.
But the days are starting to get longer and it looks like we may get three days in a row of above freezing temps before another freeze sets in.
Another month or so and we should start kicking the tires and seeing an end to our hibernation for another year. |
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San Antonio, TX | #57 - 2011-02-16 8:19 AM
For guys like myself in the Great White North, it's fairly difficult to get excited about riding when its -20F when you wake up twice a week.
Wow! Yesterday it was 78 here. -20...what a bummer! |
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| Looking forward to March and seeing my driveway again. Road last year by the end of March, not happening this year with out
some sort of divine intervention. |
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New Mexico | Been on motorcycle forums for over 10 years, and watched this happen every year. Or, more specifically, every winter.
Just cabin fever.
Warm weather and a good ride does wonders for the soul..
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| There is so much to learn here. I read enough to lower my vision add carbon fiber and more. I have viewed youtube many times to see back rest installed hear exhaust do my brake light and more.
All cause most here a very helpful even if its the same question asked five moths ago.
Thanks Guys |
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Apopka, FL | I for one am new to this forum and fairly new to the Vision. But I have been riding Victory and posting on theVMC for 5 years. I appreciate all the Vision knowledge I have learned here. If I wanted to do a search every time I had a question, I could Google it or buy a set of encyclopedias. I like the personal interaction on a live forum. So excuse me if I don't search every time I need to know how to stop the rattle in my trunk or whether anyone uses Dynabeads. The learned teach the young. That's how it's been done for generations. I am grateful for any here that answer my ignorance with knowledge in a kindly fashion. Done preaching. |
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San Antonio, TX | I would encourage anyone with a question to post it in a forum. If I know of an old post that applies (and I have a good memory of old posts) I will respond with a link to that post and any other links that might help out.
So post....and Ride Safe! |
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New Bohemia, Va | pollolittle - 2011-02-15 11:10 PM
Vaburningpantseatryder uh I mean capnilostmyshipnemo that's funny right there I don't care who ya are. Where'd the dang watercooler go to. Dagnabit.
sad, but true! |
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Perry Hall, MD | team 5150
Well I'm not up to tearing my bike apart and rebuilding it for a 'how to' video in part because everyone would question my shade tree motto that so long as there are not more than 5 left over parts on a major job everything is good. Yet the concept of providing additional clips showing the actual process of making some modifications would be beneficial. A rider recently asked about attaching gatlin tips to a Thrush muffler. I did this, but it was purely a seat of the pants job that only came together by trial and error so trying to film it was not going to happen (sorry but I don't have a second to do that could be recorded). In similar cases this site still rocks because you can ask the question and the answer will come.
As for asking the question when it has already been answered I believe that it should, and usually is, encouraged. With experience and increasing members on the site it is not uncommon to find a new point of view or some way to improve upon a shared method. If the question isn't asked none of us can benefit from the response. I'm not discouraging using the site search, as many questions will only have one answer, but even and old dog can learn a new trick (take the Cap'n who recently changed oil brands because of ANOTHER OIL POST).
Looking forward to learning a lot from everyone. Thanks letting me be part of the group. |
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Corona, CA | <<<A rider recently asked about attaching gatlin tips to a Thrush muffler>>>
That's funny because I just did that and took the photos along the way and then decided I like the Atom Bombs better.
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Forum disenchantment.
