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Puddle Jumper
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| A little more info. I did start the bike every once in a while during storage and let it warm up but never really rode it. On my trip after about 40 miles I noticed the slippage but continued to my destination. I thought I could baby it home but after 5 miles it wouldn't pull the bike at all. Since the spring tension on the lever is normal the dealer did change the oil to Victory oil with hope but it didn't change anything. They say the clutch on the Vision is a closed system so they can't inspect the plates. The repair is $740 with labor so I'm not sure it would be worth litigation. I do plan to send a nasty letter to Mobil, GE warranty administrators and Victory customer service with a copy of the bill. I don't expect any help though. |
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Tourer
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scotts valley, California | 2663, The clutch is gone? Leaving you stranded? I can not see this being caused by Mobile 1, especially in only a hundred miles. I ran Mobile 1 for a brief period, maybe five hundred miles, and experienced a little clutch slippage with high rpm power shifts. I seriously doubt if this did any damage to my clutch and, if a dealer told me otherwise.... well, I just can not see a respectable dealer making a statement like that. Changing to Rotella T-6 seems to have remedied the problem for my bike. There must be something else going on with your transmission. Hopefully a different Victory mechanic will help you get back on track without any litigation or major expense. |
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Visionary
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Pittsburgh, PA | Unfortunately a clutch will never be covered under warranty. Just too many variables involved there.. u can send avletter to GE but don't hold your breathe with that having any results. |
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Tourer
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scotts valley, California | 2663, Was the friction point of your clutch out near the end of your clutch lever throw? ie did the clutch disengage with just a partial squeeze of the clutch lever - did you have to let the clutch lever out almost all the way to get it to engage? I'm thinking you may just have a linkage problem. |
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Iron Butt
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Central New York | My only reason for saying that the parts need to be examined is because the only way the oil could have affected the clutch with less than a hundred miles is if the oil chemically attacked the clutch facing over the long period of time. This should show up in the oil and clutch plates. If that were the case then Mobil would be liable. Yes, it may only be $750.00. But you could handle it in a small claims court if you had test results from the parts and oil. |
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Puddle Jumper
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| Keep in mind that I haven't ridden that bike in two years so I had to get familiar with it again. I have to admit that when I took off it seemed to shift smoother and the transmission was quite. I'm thinking "this is good" but little did I know that the clutch was already slipping. I was on a turnpike and I first noticed that my RPMs were creeping up to maintain the same speed. After I got off the highway it was obvious and yes the engagement was at the end of the lever. After the bike cooled I thought I could really baby it by watching my speed and RPMs to minimize the slippage and heat. After 5 miles I was down to walking speed with that strategy. I could hold the brake and let clutch out without killing the engine. As far as the linkage the travel is full and the spring tension is normal. |
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Visionary
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New Bohemia, Va | Keep us posted on what goes on, there was another poster a while back that had a similar problem, but never heard the finality of the matter. Are you the original owner? I just wonder if there was a secondary cause that you might not be aware of, or if this a Vision unique situation. I'd like to hear how things turn out.
Edited by Cap'n Nemo 2010-12-17 3:48 PM
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Puddle Jumper
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| I will and yes.....the original owner. |
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Visionary
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LaPorte,Tx. | Hope everything works out ok for you. I'm suprised the dealer would have an issue with the oil, as Mobile 1 V-Twin is a JASO-MA rated oil. For an 08 Vision, Victory says to use their oil, but also if you don't use a JASO-MA rated oil. So, I believe, because the oil is rated as per what is specified, warranty has to be honored, if that is the claim. As far as the extended warranty goes, it is pretty much in my opinion, only as good as the dealer. If you have been denied a claim, ask for the answer in writing from the company who is under writing the warranty, not the dealer. You are the holder of the warranty policy, not the dealer, you have a lot of rights here, if denied, I would be talking to the under writer. If you want, you can cancel your warranty policy and you should be a refund on the unused term of the policy.
Edited by VisionTex 2010-12-18 12:48 PM
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Puddle Jumper
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| I picked the bike up today and talked to the mechanic. He showed me the clutch plates and they were completely gone....in other words very smooth. I asked him about the Mobil 1 V-Twin oil and he said that he didn't have an explanation why it causes clutch failures when other full synthetics don't but is just stating his experience. He said that he has seen premature clutch failures with the Mobil 1 with Victory and other makes. I took the bike out for a 200 mile ride (I live in Florida) and the whine and gear clunk is back so everything is normal.
Thanks for every one's input. |
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Tourer
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scotts valley, California | Yah, ya jus can't trust a bike that doesn't whine and clunck gears...
Glad you are rolling again. Merry Christmas. |
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Cruiser
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Salina, KS | I've ran Mobil 20w-50 V-Twin since the 1500 mile mark in my '09 Vision with no problems. I have 13,000 on her now btw & most of my riding is 2up as well. Last weekend I put my VFC III back on, & all but pulled the front wheel on several hard launches....not even a hint of clutch slippage. I'm not buying the story that Mobil attacks clutch plates, I think there is an underlying issue that hasn't been resloved either mechanically or otherwise. |
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Cruiser
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Midlothian, Va. | tonyj - 2010-12-25 10:42 AM I've ran Mobil 20w-50 V-Twin since the 1500 mile mark in my '09 Vision with no problems. I have 13,000 on her now btw & most of my riding is 2up as well. Last weekend I put my VFC III back on, & all but pulled the front wheel on several hard launches....not even a hint of clutch slippage. I'm not buying the story that Mobil attacks clutch plates, I think there is an underlying issue that hasn't been resloved either mechanically or otherwise.and I agree.
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Puddle Jumper
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| I'll keep an eye on it....... |
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Sorry about this, but I'm curious about an oil question
