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radioteacher
Posted 2010-10-23 11:50 PM (#72203)
Subject: New Graphics for the Vision?? AutoTrimDesign.com


Visionary

Posts: 3006
San Antonio, TX
Have you heard of or seen these graphics? Look great in the video.

http://www.autotrimdesign.net/detail_ATD-VCTRYGRPH002__76127__Triba...



Edited by radioteacher 2010-10-23 11:52 PM
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varyder
Posted 2010-10-24 5:43 AM (#72214 - in reply to #72203)
Subject: Re: New Graphics for the Vision?? AutoTrimDesign.com


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
They do look great and made very well for the Vision. How long would they last is my question? I wouldn't get them for mine, but unless you clearcoat after applying, do you run the risk of fading or peeling??
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dollarbillwi
Posted 2010-10-24 8:26 AM (#72232 - in reply to #72203)
Subject: RE: New Graphics for the Vision?? AutoTrimDesign.com


Cruiser

Posts: 92
West Bend, WI
They look very good on the bike, rode with the guy that has that bike 3 weekends ago.
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Arkainzeye
Posted 2010-10-24 8:48 AM (#72234 - in reply to #72203)
Subject: Re: New Graphics for the Vision?? AutoTrimDesign.com


Visionary

Posts: 3773
Pittsburgh, PA
i've always wondered how those stickers hold up over time and washes... anyone has experience with something like this over the long haul
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Tarpits99
Posted 2010-10-24 9:41 AM (#72241 - in reply to #72203)
Subject: Re: New Graphics for the Vision?? AutoTrimDesign.com


Iron Butt

Posts: 742
North Orange County CA
I used to sell the raw materials for a living (auto trim was one of our customers at the company I worked for).

So here is the condensed version.

Stick on graphics if manufactured with the correct grade of materials will last between 3-7 years DEPENDING on a number of factors. Where you live and the amount of UV radiation that the graphic is subjected to will shorten the durability considerably.

If you live in the Southwest or high desert areas or Florida you can expect a much shorter life (closer to 3 than 7) in terms of color durability. Horizontal applications are exposed to more UV than vertical applications so graphics on top of fenders and tanks will not last as long as those on the sides.

If you leave your bike outside in the elements where it is exposed to pollutants and uv radiation - reduced life.

Application and care are very important. See attached. Keep away from pressure washers to avoid lifting an edge when you wash the bike.

http://www.autotrimdesign.com/Shopping%20Pages/Product%20Informatio...


Choose your color based on durability - see the bottom of the chart. Some of the special effects materials have poor outdoor durability.
http://www.autotrimdesign.com/Standard%20Color%20Chart-Vinyl.htm

LIFE SPAN IS MEASURED IN CONTINUOUS EXPOSURE.

Hope this helps.

Edited by Tarpits99 2010-10-24 9:42 AM
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johnnyvision
Posted 2010-10-24 11:59 AM (#72246 - in reply to #72203)
Subject: Re: New Graphics for the Vision?? AutoTrimDesign.com


Visionary

Posts: 4278
If you take the time on there web site they tell you about washing and they have wax for the kits they tell you a lot and i think it would be a good choice. I am going to order a couple of samples so I can see what I think I want and get a feel for the vinyl
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bigwill5150
Posted 2010-10-24 1:32 PM (#72251 - in reply to #72203)
Subject: Re: New Graphics for the Vision?? AutoTrimDesign.com


Iron Butt

Posts: 725
Reno County, KS
Observation: This has become a pet peeve of mine in the vinyl graphic market. If you're interested in stick-on graphics, I would put a little more effort into the application than this web site shows. I can clearly see orange peel in the COMPRESSED pictures of this bike, so I imagine it looks like total $hit in person in the sunlight. Metallic based graphics severely multiply the blemishes they cover from EVERY angle of view if it's not addressed. This is exactly what disciminating auto enthusiast are paying extra to avoid when they have their graphics sprayed. Getting rid of the orange peel on the paint would have made this kit they show look somewhat classy. I'm not the expert here but I know for a fact it's very do-able with vinyl. I've seen fantastic results in real life by people who took the time to buff out the orange peel and other blemishes (looking for orange peel, shadows, fish-eyes, etc) before applying the graphics. This just proves something that I've realized a couple years ago when I was first researching this. There are some VERY good quality vinyl products on the market. Unfortunately most of them never reach their potential because the application was half-assed. I'll bet this could have looked great too. Looking at those images, it doesn't even look like they did anything but wash the bike and apply vinyl. Not to mention lack of sealing. Maybe they did that. I hope not because I would be pissed if someone vinyled my bike like that and then sealed it before I had a chance to inspect it. I don't care how much experience they have, I give the person who applied that graphic a rating of HACK. Looks like my neighbor's punk kid's "zoomie" car. He took his time to put the stickers on straight too... Maybe one of you guys can get this kit and then send the distributer some side-angle pictures of what GOOD application looks like. I'd like to see this kit again after it was applied well.

Edited by bigwill5150 2010-10-24 1:35 PM
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Prime Power
Posted 2010-10-24 1:35 PM (#72253 - in reply to #72203)
Subject: Re: New Graphics for the Vision?? AutoTrimDesign.com


Cruiser

Posts: 256
I had some flames on my truck. They laster about 3 years. Washington state and Oklahoma is where I lived. I ended up taking them off and getting painted flames. Not that happy with the vinyl as the paint underneath looks brand new when removed so you have to reinstall or paint over.
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bigwill5150
Posted 2010-10-24 1:38 PM (#72254 - in reply to #72203)
Subject: Re: New Graphics for the Vision?? AutoTrimDesign.com


Iron Butt

Posts: 725
Reno County, KS
Aside: I little clay bar goes a long way.

Edited by bigwill5150 2010-10-24 1:39 PM
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Webhair
Posted 2010-10-25 1:39 PM (#72329 - in reply to #72203)
Subject: Re: New Graphics for the Vision?? AutoTrimDesign.com


Iron Butt

Posts: 669
Peachtree City, GA
It is waste of money - I rather spend it on a real paint job.

Besides - the joke is on them for the 10th "sticker" - get real.
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Trekwolf164
Posted 2010-10-25 4:54 PM (#72346 - in reply to #72203)
Subject: Re: New Graphics for the Vision?? AutoTrimDesign.com


Iron Butt

Posts: 965
New York State
Ordered the Graphics then read this thread and the FAQ on the site.

Closed the order. ]

Will talk to my auto body guy and decide if graphics are for me
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