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| Completely dead, passing a group of cars in a very slow moving are when suddenly I lost my electrical, everything went dead as though my battery had been disconnected, checked battery connection, everything was tight, was going to check the fuse block and realized that my windshield was down, replaced the front access and turned on the key and the power was back, rode home without another problem, could have been bad if it had happened at night ....... Any ideas?? |
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San Antonio, TX | I wonder if is the main breaker under the plastic panel near the battery. They had to tighten the breaker terminals in the recall of the 2008 Visions.
Let us know what you find out. |
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New Bohemia, VA | ...also an ignition switch recall was done, because it could cause exactly that problem. Hope it works out for you T. |
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Pittsburgh, PA | Not the same. But after I installed my s1l1 setup and the dealer flashed my ecm. I had stalling issues! Scared the crap out of me each time. And seemed to happen when I was at a lower speed about about to give the bike a sudden surge of fuel. Since then I installed the Lloyd's thing for popping and the power commander 5. I do not have stalling anymore. For me,I believe it was a lean mixture. Are You saying your electrcial system shuts off? |
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| radioteacher - 2010-08-16 12:14 AM
I wonder if is the main breaker under the plastic panel near the battery. They had to tighten the breaker terminals in the recall of the 2008 Visions.
Let us know what you find out.
I had all the recalls done but went ahead and checked out the breaker connections, all appear tight, the only thing I found loose was the hot wire to the starter......... I had posted a starter problem in another post, this issue may have been solved.
Decided to clean the battery terminals just in case that was a possible issue on the dying problem, keep the ideas coming, I may pull the console and check the wiring to the ignition switch next. |
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| I all ways put a little grease on all electric connection to prevent water getting is and causing a short. No grease use Vaseline its way cheaper and you can get it in small size |
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| Arkainzeye - 2010-08-16 4:27 AM
Not the same. But after I installed my s1l1 setup and the dealer flashed my ecm. I had stalling issues! Scared the crap out of me each time. And seemed to happen when I was at a lower speed about about to give the bike a sudden surge of fuel. Since then I installed the Lloyd's thing for popping and the power commander 5. I do not have stalling anymore. For me,I believe it was a lean mixture. Are You saying your electrcial system shuts off?
Yeah, electrical shut off, lost everything....... engine died, dash went blank, all lights turned off, I've checked for loose connections, wires etc. didn't find anything yet that would account for a complete system failure. When it happened, I pulled off the road, turned the key off, checked the battery connections... tight, pulled the front panel realized the windshield was down and fuse access was blocked, replaced panel, turned key to on and everything was on again, bike started up and I rode home, unless I can find the problem, I'm going to be leery of riding at night for fear that it will happen again. |
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Brighton, TN | I had the same thing happen and I posted on here. The problem was the Ground or the hot wire on the battery. You could just barely move the wire maybe a 1/4 of an inch. Just a very little wiggle. Happen to be lucky had a bro-in-law along and turn the key on and everything dead, only thing he did was wiggle the wires and it lit up. Got it back home disconnected the battery cables and shined it all up, put a fresh coat of dielectric on any and everything metal related to the battery. Hooked it back up and no problems since.
It would do exactly like you describe. Totally dead, wait a minute and light up again. Repeat over and over. Might start, might not. But I'm all good now. |
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dinwiddie, va | its gonna probably happen again. when it does, see if you loose the memory on your radio for all of your presets like bass and treble, or your trip . if they are reset. you have totally lost battery voltage. if your terminals are tight. it is a defective circuit breaker. It is loosing its electrical contact momentarily. I have had a couple come through with this issue and that is the problem. Or you could just take it to your local dealership... |
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| nightvision - 2010-08-18 5:59 AM
its gonna probably happen again. when it does, see if you loose the memory on your radio for all of your presets like bass and treble, or your trip . if they are reset. you have totally lost battery voltage. if your terminals are tight. it is a defective circuit breaker. It is loosing its electrical contact momentarily. I have had a couple come through with this issue and that is the problem. Or you could just take it to your local dealership...
The momentarily that occurred to me was about 15 seconds from where it died to where I pulled off the road and turned off the key, the only thing I had to set was my clock.
BTW, when I disconnected the battery to clean the terminals, I can be 100% sure I lost voltage to the system and still the only thing I had to reset was the clock.
Still, I won't completely rule out the circuit breaker yet.
Edited by tralphaz 2010-08-18 1:02 PM
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dinwiddie, va | well just double check that. The two bikes I had come through the shop. Were doing the same exact thing yours was. Had to switch the key off and back on to get it goin. When a circuit breaker looses 12 volts "momentarily" it wont just pick it back up. The key has to be cycled. One started doing it about 300 miles away from home. It happened to him about 15 times on the way back to his house. Just trying to help you out, I have corrected the problem 2 times. Take it or leave it.... |
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| nightvision - 2010-08-18 10:56 AM
Just trying to help you out, I have corrected the problem 2 times. Take it or leave it....
No need to get your feelers hurt, I'm just trying to explore all the possibilities and for the record, I really do appreciate your input.
So, what does the main breaker cost so I can just go ahead and replace it? I'd rather replace it and not need it than the other way around. |
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| If you replace the main breaker throw the old one in the bag just in case down the road it might help you or someone ells. |
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on the edge of Los Angeles | Similar issue some time back, Rolling along at an intersection and bike dies lights out I kinda scramble to get back running while I am saying WTF. ( In the heat of the moment I was not able to really analyze the situation but key off and on hit starter and away I went
Did it again and I knew something was not happy.
I replaced the breaker because I damaged the oem one when messing with it. I was able to find one at a local parts store that was an exact match.
Where I think my issue was the ignition switch. I had the "recall" done and discovered it is a rubber wedge under the ignition switch assembly to help hold the contacts up in place. I took the switch apart to check the contacts and when I re-installed the switch I made sure the rubber wedge had more pressure on it to be sure it would hold the contact plate in place.
I would like to replace the switch at some point but that issue has appeared to go away.
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Electrical Parts replaced to date: Stator @ 50 miles ,Battery & relay @ 30,000 miles.
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| JSP - 2010-08-18 4:34 PM
I replaced the breaker because I damaged the oem one when messing with it. I was able to find one at a local parts store that was an exact match.
What's holding the breaker in place? I had removed the plastic access cover and it looks like it's gonna be a pain getting the breaker out couldn't tell if it was riveted or screwed in place,
anyway I've had all the recalls done but noticed when I was getting ready to pull the wires off the breaker that 1 of the connections was loose, I was able to turn the nut by hand, the other connection wasn't much tighter, I'll keep my eye on the situation. |
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on the edge of Los Angeles | tralphaz - 2010-08-19 12:12 PM JSP - 2010-08-18 4:34 PM I replaced the breaker because I damaged the oem one when messing with it. I was able to find one at a local parts store that was an exact match. What's holding the breaker in place? I had removed the plastic access cover and it looks like it's gonna be a pain getting the breaker out couldn't tell if it was riveted or screwed in place, anyway I've had all the recalls done but noticed when I was getting ready to pull the wires off the breaker that 1 of the connections was loose, I was able to turn the nut by hand, the other connection wasn't much tighter, I'll keep my eye on the situation. Fram an earlir post I have here I found the information on the breaker " NAPA has a replacement BK 782-3116 " R&R of breaker is kinda tricky since it has the rubber seal that goes over the connections but not to bad. |
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| JSP, thanks for the info on the replacement breaker. |
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Boydsville, AR United States | I have had intermintent stalling problems for the past year. In Sturis this year, it quit in a construction zone. The wife unit had to get off, and help push it off the road. (Trailer attached) I noticed it happened with the HID light on. Rode the week not using it. No problems. That is until about 100 miles from home. It just quit going down the highway. 8 times about 10 minutes appart. Unpluged the trailer lights, and ran 5th gear, and got home. I did notice that when it quit, the insturments were in the same position that they were when it quit, fuel, volts, MPH and Tach. The voltage was low, just a hair above 14 volts, but whne it fell to 14, it quit. I turned the key off, coasted to a stop, and when the insturments went to 0, it would restart. When I got home, I checked the breaker, and the battery side was about 4 turns loose, and the load side was a half a turn. Tightened them both, and VOLA, voltage is back up, and all is good. I rode 200 miles this weekend, and no problems. I know that when voltage goes down, amprage goes up, and I'm guessing it triped the breaker. After a wait it reset, and would go again. My dealer says the recall was done, but do you supose some one got paid to do it, and didn't do it, or does it come loose again? |
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San Antonio, TX | wseemann wonders if some one got paid to do the recall, and they didn't do it.
I think that is very possible! My old dealer would have done that....burned the mechanic for their time and used the money to buy more crack. |
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