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varyder
Posted 2008-01-18 3:04 PM (#4404 - in reply to #4196)
Subject: RE: Vision vs. Ultra


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA

I think we are all in agreement over this article that it is filled with junk, even though Vision comes out on top. I think it was written to plant negative thoughts without being down right anti-Vision. I believe that some competitor had it written because they are fearing the Vision will draw on the customer base that is not a HD or Wing sheep and take a large market share. That can be a large percentage when you think about it. So what better way to sway peoples mind to "stay away" from the Vision because your thighs will have saddle soars and your clutch hand will be twice the size of the brake hand, if you can get it to stop or stay up. But it's a great bike and comes out the winner, if you want these things.

Any serious rider of any motorcycle will make their own assessment. I am amazed at "loyal" HDers who complain about their ride yet continue to ride them. Too much vibration, my back hurts, heavy, breaks down and on and on. And, oh by the way, I don't hang around harley riders or many of the riders at that, but I still hear this comments. They say things like "I'd ride more if it wasn't for ....._____" fill in the blank with any of the aforementioned symptoms, or something to do with the weather. I have an appreciation for those who have styled their bikes to fit them, as I did with my Goldwing and the seat. I had it lowered and cut to fit me and covered with leather. This made the ride to TX better, but not perfect.

I think the Vision is great since they got it right before it came out of the box. Ride on....

One more thing I want to add to my comments is to take note of the two closing photo's of the bikes. The HD in front of a statue honoring motorcycling police that died while saving others. The Vision is front of graffitti painted walls like it is in some alley somewhere waiting to do you harm. I don't know if that is your take, but I see that alone as a mind swayer.



Edited by varyder 2008-01-18 3:09 PM
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VisionTex
Posted 2008-01-18 3:48 PM (#4405 - in reply to #4404)
Subject: RE: Vision vs. Ultra


Visionary

Posts: 1484
LaPorte,Tx.
varyder - 2008-01-18 2:04 PM

Any serious rider of any motorcycle will make their own assessment. >


But they don't, we are a country of followers. If someone talks down something, most will follow that lead and won't touch it. Hey look at the American car industry, you would think by reading the rags, you shouldn't even ride in one let alone own one.
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BUCKEYE
Posted 2008-01-18 9:01 PM (#4415 - in reply to #4196)
Subject: Re: Vision vs. Ultra


Iron Butt

Posts: 904
29 Palms California
I will say, it takes us Vision Riders to get out on the road and help sell the product by doing nothing but answering questions. Everywhere I go I'm open to answering the masses. The HD guys will come around. All the guys I ride with have HD. I was the only one in the group to ride my HD regularly (to Work and home with weekend rides), and thus it was in the shop more than anyone elses scoot. When I got the Vision, they all knew why I went with the Victory. The minds of my group have all come around to wanting a Victory for their next scoot, especially when we pull up somewhere, and my bike gets ALL the attention. Lets face it, we all want people to look at and admire what we ride. I was going for reliable first, then looks second. Turns out I got both! I'm 100% Victory now.
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Spock
Posted 2008-01-18 9:57 PM (#4419 - in reply to #4415)
Subject: Re: Vision vs. Ultra


Tourer

Posts: 495
Carrollton, TX

AMEN!! You are right on Buckeye!

I was going for comfort and handling first, then reliability and then looks and I got all three.

BUCKEYE - 2008-01-18 8:01 PM I will say, it takes us Vision Riders to get out on the road and help sell the product by doing nothing but answering questions. Everywhere I go I'm open to answering the masses. The HD guys will come around. All the guys I ride with have HD. I was the only one in the group to ride my HD regularly (to Work and home with weekend rides), and thus it was in the shop more than anyone elses scoot. When I got the Vision, they all knew why I went with the Victory. The minds of my group have all come around to wanting a Victory for their next scoot, especially when we pull up somewhere, and my bike gets ALL the attention. Lets face it, we all want people to look at and admire what we ride. I was going for reliable first, then looks second. Turns out I got both! I'm 100% Victory now.

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2020vision
Posted 2008-01-19 1:44 PM (#4443 - in reply to #4196)
Subject: Re: Vision vs. Ultra


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 8
Nowhere to go but up!
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sandman
Posted 2008-01-19 1:56 PM (#4444 - in reply to #4196)
Subject: Re: Vision vs. Ultra


Cruiser

Posts: 294
rhode island
i believe the clutch is hydraulic and not adjustable, this is 106 c.i engine and needs a bit more pressure to control slippage
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visionman
Posted 2008-01-19 2:05 PM (#4446 - in reply to #4196)
Subject: Re: Vision vs. Ultra


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 20
HD makeing the clutch pull lighter just goes to show that HD riders are becomeing sissies. Next thing you know they will be bashing us cause the paint is too glossy.
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