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varyder
Posted 2009-04-30 11:09 AM (#33494)
Subject: Ignition relocation


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New Bohemia, VA

I've been thinking to relocating the ignition switch to the traditional cheese wedge location on the left. I know there is some barriers such as the fuel tank access, forklock and glove box as well as the wiring, not to mention redoing the panel to fill the hole. Has anyone thought about this or actually done it?

I want to clean up the consolde to include moving the forward switches to a hidden location, yet accessible. That would also mean getting another console made.

Just ideas rolling in my head...

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kevinx
Posted 2009-04-30 5:39 PM (#33505 - in reply to #33494)
Subject: RE: Ignition relocation


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Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators
Would require a little creativity to make the cable operated items work, but it would be far from impossible
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Arkainzeye
Posted 2009-04-30 6:23 PM (#33510 - in reply to #33494)
Subject: Re: Ignition relocation


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Pittsburgh, PA
i guess you would be giving up the steering lock? maybe not that important? but then there is the gas cap Door?
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kevinx
Posted 2009-04-30 7:46 PM (#33514 - in reply to #33510)
Subject: Re: Ignition relocation


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Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators
Arkainzeye - 2009-04-30 6:23 PM

i guess you would be giving up the steering lock? maybe not that important? but then there is the gas cap Door?


Gas cap is cable operated. Need to look into how the steering lock works

Edited by kevinx 2009-04-30 7:51 PM
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Teach
Posted 2009-04-30 8:34 PM (#33522 - in reply to #33494)
Subject: Re: Ignition relocation


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varyder, I was looking at this from the start. My thoughts were to put a HD style lock but I decided to drop the idea. I was mainly looking at it due to the constant key requirement. I've decided to just go with a keyless ignition. When I was considering this the gas door wasn't the issue but rather the fork lock. The gas door is just a tumbler cable setup. If you do this mod keep us posted.
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kevinx
Posted 2009-05-01 1:41 PM (#33588 - in reply to #33494)
Subject: RE: Ignition relocation


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Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators
Did some digging around today, and this mod would really be a piece of cake. the cables would have to be custom made, but that is no big issue. Most bicycle shops have the stuff to make what you would need from what you have. You could also bolt a door lock solenoid in place of the ignition switch for the steering lock, and set it up on a remote fob. That would be way slick
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radioteacher
Posted 2009-05-01 5:41 PM (#33599 - in reply to #33494)
Subject: Re: Ignition relocation


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San Antonio, TX
Kevinx,

That would be great. I would like to install a digital guard dawg key eliminator. But I also would like to use my keylock. A remote would make that easy.

I wonder if you could make the trunk and sidebags electric lock?
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varyder
Posted 2009-05-01 7:44 PM (#33612 - in reply to #33494)
Subject: RE: Ignition relocation


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Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA

kevinx - 2009-05-01 1:41 PM Did some digging around today, and this mod would really be a piece of cake. the cables would have to be custom made, but that is no big issue. Most bicycle shops have the stuff to make what you would need from what you have. You could also bolt a door lock solenoid in place of the ignition switch for the steering lock, and set it up on a remote fob. That would be way slick

I was looking at the wedgy and it looks to be a standard piece with a glued on badge over the hole that I presume is the ignition hole. Also the cheesy wedgy mount on the bike has a hole in it as well, so it seems to me it is ready. Now, with that, will the vision ignition fit into these holes and mount? And are you sure that can't reroute the wires and them work? I'm sure there will be that one which will make it impossible. I like your door solenoid lock idea and need to look into that as it seems the ignition is also the lock itself with a piston or latch. I hate guessing, and I don't have a gayrog so I can't go look right now. I'll have a sleepless night tonight, as if I can move it, I will tomorrow and hopefully I can get the locky thingies worked out of the next few weeks. I know the gas door is just a lever or cable and can route that to do it manually. Also, I like the idea of the solenoid for the saddle locks, I think it will work as there is a lot of dead space around the latching mech and it would be possible with the right mounting scheme. High class indeed.

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kevinx
Posted 2009-05-01 8:36 PM (#33615 - in reply to #33612)
Subject: RE: Ignition relocation


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Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators
Mounting the switch will actually be the hardest part. The length top to bottom may make for problems when mounted sideways. You also need to bear in mind the end of the switch[electrical] may pop out if not properly secured.
A little planning, and this is simple. For the fuel door, and glove box you could use the exsisting cables, and make hidden pulls for them under the dash.

The steering lock is nothing more then a pin that locks into a notch in the upper tree
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varyder
Posted 2009-05-02 9:13 PM (#33668 - in reply to #33615)
Subject: RE: Ignition relocation


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New Bohemia, VA

Got a good look at this today. I see a route that I might take if functionally it will work. First, get a standard switch for the side mount. Hopefully the tumblers will work from the Vision to the replacement switch. Second, modify the original switch by cutting of the tumbler portion and placing a solenoid that could be wired to lock when the vision is in the off position. This might be more trickier and may only be a pipe dream, but it is something to entertain our minds with. Since the gas door is manual, that could be just routed to the glove box and have a pull lever to open the door, The cable is certainly long enough.

While looking at this, it would not take much to remove that chunk that is in the way to do a right turn forklock, don't know why they didn't do that to begin with.

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Arkainzeye
Posted 2009-05-03 7:42 AM (#33680 - in reply to #33494)
Subject: Re: Ignition relocation


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Posts: 3773
Pittsburgh, PA
the Keyless ignition, is there a fail safe with it? i mean if you are hundreds miles away from how and the unit fails will you still be able to start your vision and go on with your day? Ive always wondered about that..
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crna63
Posted 2009-05-08 10:28 AM (#34051 - in reply to #33494)
Subject: Re: Ignition relocation


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Paragould, AR
Arkaninzeye, I have wondered about that also, what if you are going down the road and your battery dies in the fob? Will it keep going or shut you down in the middle of traffic?
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