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Stockton, Ca. | We enjoy our Visions and who cares if someone else doesn't appeciate greaty value and quality. Each to their own. My experiences have been mostly good responses from other riders. At a recent car show I was invited to park my Vision between 2 very nice customs. Interestingly my bike was not part of the show but you wouldn't know it from all of the attention it received. After viewing all of the cool cars and bikes at the show I returned to find a crowd around my Vision taking pictures etc. Nobody was looking at the very cool customs on either side. Maybe that is the reason for jealousy or one finger solutes, either way who cares. The custom bike owners I met were very respectful of all the bikes there. It's all about a good ride. I answered a few questions about the bike got on and rode away. It was a great show. |
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Sparta, WI | I say fug dat guy that flipped you off.
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Brighton, TN | now the language is just deteriorating into a diatribe of insanity and looneytunes. Mudcameljim told me to come back over here and moderate. Most have appeared to be talking about birds of all types, (hay I fit in now)! I still don't know what a "fug dat" is? Hmmmm!
It's always fun to put the bike where it is least expected to be like between a couple of show customs. Then all the attention is diverted. I've said before, I like going over to the HD dealer and park in front and see the frustration on their faces.
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| It really is all about jealousy and ignorance. Predjudice always is. I am all for loyalty, but when something better comes along, whether it be a Victory or a custom the loyalist get stupid. |
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rhode island | The vision is a big F-You to many of these neanderthals, no response is needed in case's of the one finger salute. 
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| varyder, No trying to argue my friend, just trying to point out that mentioning brand always gets a rise and hardly ever a good one. Your point would have been just as well made to post someone on a bike flipped you off. I frankly never give those actions much thought and if I do the thought is normally "stupid newb."
Po, I teach World History, sociology, psychology, recent American History,Criminal Justice at the High School level and occasionally teach a college term in WH and RAH. Second career after retiring from the military a while back.
Oh and to make this a bit less stick for you, lol..... consider the riding climate we build with comments on a forum. Some of us (you and varyder I assume) have been around riding a while, many of the folks here have not. So when they read comments from folks who have been across the road and back.... they give those comments weight. Riding has changed a great deal but I'd sure hate to see the day when brand rivalry sets the tone. Ride safe..... T |
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New Bohemia, VA | Teach - 2008-09-22 8:38 PM varyder, No trying to argue my friend, just trying to point out that mentioning brand always gets a rise and hardly ever a good one. Your point would have been just as well made to post someone on a bike flipped you off. I frankly never give those actions much thought and if I do the thought is normally "stupid newb." Po, I teach World History, sociology, psychology, recent American History,Criminal Justice at the High School level and occasionally teach a college term in WH and RAH. Second career after retiring from the military a while back. Oh and to make this a bit less stick for you, lol..... consider the riding climate we build with comments on a forum. Some of us (you and varyder I assume) have been around riding a while, many of the folks here have not. So when they read comments from folks who have been across the road and back.... they give those comments weight. Riding has changed a great deal but I'd sure hate to see the day when brand rivalry sets the tone. Ride safe..... T I'm not sure what you are really trying to TEACH me, but I made a simple post with the facts and nothing more. Then you come and make sure I'm being pollolittlicly correct to say the least. You also say how I feel and so on in that it ruined my day when not even now has this even phased me. Just as I don't know why that Harley rider flipped me off while I was riding my Vision, I have no idea why TEACH is trying to TEACH me what I should say, not say and when I should say it, and how I should say it. Sorry dude, I'm not one to speak this way, but I think you are pushing it. The forum was a great forum in the start, and thankfully it still is. But there are a few that has to forum police to make sure everyone says everything just right according to them. (Po not you, LOL on your comments). I had figured that my original post would have fallen off into post land like most of my post do. But here it is 30+ later with some very interesting observations and a personal attack because I said a Harley rider showed me his IQ, unprovocked. I wasn't even talking the "wave" thing either, this was an outright "Hey dude, I don't know you and I don't like you so here's ONE for you." I shared that fact and nothing more. No more than useless chatter such as this. When I was on the GoldWing site the same thing would happen, and I wasn't even in on any of the post, so it wasn't me. The same type of tirade would take place until somebody got tired. For the most part I'm sure most of the folk here on the Vision-Rider forum truly could care less about such post and let them die off or share similar situations, chatter, mind you. But now I am faced with the Forum police to make sure if there is anything negative about a particular type bike is scrubbed from the post. The sad thing is most people if not all folks that read my original post took it for what it was, babble about a motorcycle rider on a Harley making a gesture to a rider on a Vision, and nothing more. And as where your brand rivalry comment is from, brand rivalry has always been and will always be, personnally, I will ride with anyone at anytime regardless of brand. The unfortunate fact is there is many brand loyals that will tell out right unless you ride what they ride they ain't riding with you. There are also many brand loyals that could care less. I've even heard some within a brand criticize within the brand because they do not ride their model, and yes that is even within Victory. So there is nothing to start, it has always been, it is part of the culture. But again, bottomline I love to ride and hope to ride with any and all, but after this, I wouldn't blame anyone if they didn't want to ride with me. Peace out |
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So Cal | Has nothing to do with what he was riding. Had more to do with the brain he was carrying in his bucket. Doesnt even have to ride to be in that catagory. If nothing else, you can recognize the bike (or person for that matter) and avoid him (or not) the next time you see him in person. Guys like that can ruin an evening. Not that I would back down, but I get on my Vision for fun. Not headaches. LA is full of them. |
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Brighton, TN | VAunderwearcreepinginthecrevicesryder - you know I still don't know what unprovocked is, where is wiki when you need it. Brother you need a case of BuKn*kd's brew and pouring one out for the homey's, cjnoho's smoke search for soaring eagle and SandinthecrevicespinkJim's need for a new shirt and a camel. I'll even throw in some good old fashioned whiskey and a Dr. Pepper to mix or chase. I say saddle up to the campfire and let's swig from the bottle, like we were in our early twenties, hanging with the twentysomethinghotties, spin a yarn with the boys and pass the jug. Git'R Done.
Note: since some of you have given up on the adult beverage and Miss Mary, please continue to refrain and enjoy this moment of interlude.
I don't think you have alienated anyone, yet, I'm still on the fence. I love you man! (old Bud Commercial) Honestly, I think I would have been taken aback a smidge had someone flown their No. 1 indicator, like whassup? Wow, what a Jackass (country reference) on a Harley (couldn't resist) or was it a Honda!
You in a funk? Go out to the Bentley and rub carefully (not to scratch the paint) and affectionately, and gently say 10 times"I love you, Bentley!" If that doesn't make you feel better, it will at least give someone a good laugh at you loving up on your bike.
Teachoftooomanysubjectstolist - You from the Army or Marine Land, longdistanceVAryder, I believe was Army. What a list of subjects and at the Highschool Level, that would make anybody love to ride AWAY! Military retirement, pending on which branch - Whoooo Aaahhhh!!. Glad you made it to at least 20 and possibly more. No stick please, just info, I'm allergic to large sticks, unless they are holding something else to eat.
Me not so much around the riding arena, I'm a returning newbie to the motorcycle world and I had to ask a lot of questions as to why some people don't wave anymore. When I started out riding, when I was around 17, going down the freeway, most people would wave with a great big hand and arm way up in the air and you couldn't miss their exercise of friendliness. A lot of Harley riders gave me the Snubb, and laugh at my ride, never understood then, I do now a little. They appeared to be following a lifestyle choice of, their interpretation, of freedom doing what you wanted, when you wanted. Since, I wasn't obviously following their choice of lifestyle and ride, then I was an outsider. I always wanted to pull into a place where bikes were and check out the bikes and their owners, seeing how I had a common interest, but a punk kid at 17 - 21, I thought I might get into trouble, so I just kept going. Since I had been snubbed so many times, I didn't pull into a place unless it had multiple varieties of bikes. Maybe that's a little short sighted on my part but there was no internet or forum, so no place to go for the info.
Fast forward about 20 years, (did I just say that), been riding again for almost a year now, AGAIN (yeah baby!) It seems the cliimate has changed and as eagleeyeteach would put it, probably a "NEWB", so I'll make him aware of the courtesy. But I'm the new guy, so I'm just instilling into my area old school values and courtesy by giving a wave.
Teachofmanyyearsaridin, owning this bike has been like buying a brand new Mustang GT and going over to the Local Camaro Car Club and bla de blah de blahing over there. Let the brand rivalry begin and never end. That rivalry has been going on over 40 years and some are hard headed enough to give you the "I" sign without ever muttering a word, much like the Harley guy. A lot of others have enough of brain bucket cells to understand and appreciate the competition and the ride.
Within a week of ownership, I had a Harley guy with ape hangers come up along side of me and ask "What the f*&ck is that?", I just told him, "It's a better bike!" and kept on grinning, he gave me a shurg of his shoulders and roared off, hands and ass a rattling. I chuckled all the way home, telling myself this is way better than any TV. I posted this encounter on here, much like VApinchinghisnipplehardryder did, just because, one it was funny, and two, it was a good comeback (pat on back)! Never was I insulted, taken aback yes, because I was gonna compliment him on his bike and then my brain cells had to switch over to bashing his Harley! I loved it.
Tired of typing so to wrap up! I'm riding with whoever wants to and I'm waving to everybody and I'm giving and taking commentary either way. I love the whole bike thing, if I could get me a stable of bikes I would. But I don't have that much money, so I'm collecting one at a time and having fun while doing it. |
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| After all these posts of bullshit it comes down to facts....... I was there, there was a guy on a Vespa behind you giving the thumbs down about your Vision and the guy on the Harley was giving him the bird. O.o |
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Brighton, TN | Blueox USA- Man I'm not feelin' the love all that work and it comes down to a Vespa, you and a thumb in a compromising positiion and a guy on Harley. HMmmmm |
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Scottsdale AZ | pollolittle - 2008-09-23 8:53 AM
VAunderwearcreepinginthecrevicesryder - you know I still don't know what unprovocked is, where is wiki when you need it. Brother you need a case of BuKn*kd's brew and pouring one out for the homey's, cjnoho's smoke search for soaring eagle and SandinthecrevicespinkJim's need for a new shirt and a camel. I'll even throw in some good old fashioned whiskey and a Dr. Pepper to mix or chase. I say saddle up to the campfire and let's swig from the bottle, like we were in our early twenties, hanging with the twentysomethinghotties, spin a yarn with the boys and pass the jug. Git'R Done.
Note: since some of you have given up on the adult beverage and Miss Mary, please continue to refrain and enjoy this moment of interlude.
I don't think you have alienated anyone, yet, I'm still on the fence. I love you man! (old Bud Commercial) Honestly, I think I would have been taken aback a smidge had someone flown their No. 1 indicator, like whassup? Wow, what a Jackass (country reference) on a Harley (couldn't resist) or was it a Honda!
You in a funk? Go out to the Bentley and rub carefully (not to scratch the paint) and affectionately, and gently say 10 times"I love you, Bentley!" If that doesn't make you feel better, it will at least give someone a good laugh at you loving up on your bike.
Teachoftooomanysubjectstolist - You from the Army or Marine Land, longdistanceVAryder, I believe was Army. What a list of subjects and at the Highschool Level, that would make anybody love to ride AWAY! Military retirement, pending on which branch - Whoooo Aaahhhh!!. Glad you made it to at least 20 and possibly more. No stick please, just info, I'm allergic to large sticks, unless they are holding something else to eat.
Me not so much around the riding arena, I'm a returning newbie to the motorcycle world and I had to ask a lot of questions as to why some people don't wave anymore. When I started out riding, when I was around 17, going down the freeway, most people would wave with a great big hand and arm way up in the air and you couldn't miss their exercise of friendliness. A lot of Harley riders gave me the Snubb, and laugh at my ride, never understood then, I do now a little. They appeared to be following a lifestyle choice of, their interpretation, of freedom doing what you wanted, when you wanted. Since, I wasn't obviously following their choice of lifestyle and ride, then I was an outsider. I always wanted to pull into a place where bikes were and check out the bikes and their owners, seeing how I had a common interest, but a punk kid at 17 - 21, I thought I might get into trouble, so I just kept going. Since I had been snubbed so many times, I didn't pull into a place unless it had multiple varieties of bikes. Maybe that's a little short sighted on my part but there was no internet or forum, so no place to go for the info.
Fast forward about 20 years, (did I just say that), been riding again for almost a year now, AGAIN (yeah baby!) It seems the cliimate has changed and as eagleeyeteach would put it, probably a "NEWB", so I'll make him aware of the courtesy. But I'm the new guy, so I'm just instilling into my area old school values and courtesy by giving a wave.
Teachofmanyyearsaridin, owning this bike has been like buying a brand new Mustang GT and going over to the Local Camaro Car Club and bla de blah de blahing over there. Let the brand rivalry begin and never end. That rivalry has been going on over 40 years and some are hard headed enough to give you the "I" sign without ever muttering a word, much like the Harley guy. A lot of others have enough of brain bucket cells to understand and appreciate the competition and the ride.
Within a week of ownership, I had a Harley guy with ape hangers come up along side of me and ask "What the f*&ck is that?", I just told him, "It's a better bike!" and kept on grinning, he gave me a shurg of his shoulders and roared off, hands and ass a rattling. I chuckled all the way home, telling myself this is way better than any TV. I posted this encounter on here, much like VApinchinghisnipplehardryder did, just because, one it was funny, and two, it was a good comeback (pat on back)! Never was I insulted, taken aback yes, because I was gonna compliment him on his bike and then my brain cells had to switch over to bashing his Harley! I loved it.
Tired of typing so to wrap up! I'm riding with whoever wants to and I'm waving to everybody and I'm giving and taking commentary either way. I love the whole bike thing, if I could get me a stable of bikes I would. But I don't have that much money, so I'm collecting one at a time and having fun while doing it.
Pootintheckntnnrider - You remind me of when the bucknKD was on the java stuff and rambled for hours. Where is that Ohio State lovin Vespa rider? I guess we need a thread now and then that doesn't have much redeeming value, I don't find it anyway in here.
Peace and safe riding to all you guys, Teach and Vary, as they say- let's bury the hatchet, go on down the road, have Whiskey for the men and Beer for the horses. |
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Pitt Meadows, BC Canada | This whole thread is getting funnier! And funner!
Reminded me of a happening some 20 years or more ago - while on a BC Ferry with 200 or so Harley guys - and my 750 Virago. The joshing went back and forth tween me and a whole bunch of 'them' - One of them said "Why don't you get a REAL bike - a Harley!"
My response was "No thanks - I don't wear a Uniform." They looked at each other with their tatoos, black shirts, black vests and look-a-like bikes - and screamed at me "We ain't wearing no uniforms..." I just laughed and laughed - then when the ferry docked, I blew them all away with my 750.
Nothing much has changed in the 20 or so years since then - except many of the 'uniforms' are Lawyers and Doctors and Accountants. Still makes me laugh. And I still wave to all. Y'all lighten up, 'eh?
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Brighton, TN | PinkmudcamelJim - what do you mean no redeeming value, you quote the entire diatribe and the only thing you got to say is no redeeming value - Harumph! (that's a sound you old guys make). Man still no value, I must attempt to impress you much better. |
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| varyder, well there you have it, the internet. Just as you misinterpret my intention so I misinterpretted your post. I have no intentions of TEACHING anyone anything here, I simply posted my observation from your initial post. If that offends you, oh well. As for policing what you have to say, who you like or dislike, could care less about that as well. I come here to see whats up with other owners, nothing more. Ride safe..... T |
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Dale, Indiana | Ok that's it!
I love Victory Vision bikes.
Hooters Hot Wings.
Coors beer.
Strong whisky.
Nice legs (on a woman)
I think nothing looks finer then a woman on a horse (women on a bike are a strong second though)
CHROME (there's no such thing as to much chrome)
Chicken lights.
Mud ducks.
Corn on the cob.
Cats and dogs.
Anyone who doesn't see it like me ...
weeeelll
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San Antonio, TX United States | I was going to keep my mouth shut on this whole thread and just watch as things unfolded. But I have got to concur with Indiana Roadrunner. Well said. |
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South of Houston Tx | I have to admit that I am a little hurt by this whole "Harley riders don't like us thing" In my younger years I always rode Jap bikes, it was what I could afford and back then I dreamed of one day being able to purchase a Harley, heck, at that time it was the "not every one has one" motorcycle. I can remember being intimidated by Harley riders, hearing comments like "rice burner" and having a fairly strong sense of American patriotism, I would hang my head in shame, but it wasn't enough to make me give up my love for 2 wheeled vehicles. When I purchased my Vision, I thought "now I have an American made bike, the Harley crowd wont be able to make me feel bad and I will be like a brother to them. So like I said, I'm a little hurt, not enough to need counseling, after all , I have a Vision, I can just get on her and ride. And when I do, I know now that I belong not only to the group of American motorcycle owners, but to the much more elite group of VISION riders that dare to be different from the masses. |
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Brighton, TN | Some Beach, Indianafingerinthewindroadkill - that just about does it for me. I spent all that time a rambling and you come up with a short list I mostly agree with. But I think you gave me the bird (finger)! I really am not a fan of cats, but a hottie on horse, now you have my interest, have to agree, twice.
Don't quite know what chicken lights are though. I remember a commercial or skit where they put helmet mounted lights on chickens and they were going somewhere. |
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Brighton, TN | notknowingwhatheridesVaRyder - done gone and done it (country song)!
Disclaimer: No bike brand or name is mentioned in this signature so as not to offend anyone.
2008 <bike> <bike manufacturer>
Now I don't even know what bike he has or milage or even that he had an article. Dang man. He does have a 2008 (still not sure what that is either).
My new sig, think I'm gonna change it:
2008 Agressively styled, not a knock off of a Harley Davidson Ultra Classic, BMW K1200LT, Honda Goldwing, Kawasaki Vulcan, (insert make and model of your choice), better than all of those listed Victory Vision Black Street Premium.
Lot of miles, cause I ride!
Smilin' cause I own the best bike on planet Earth, nobody makes one better or ever will than this one.
Exhaust hot as h*ll, 450 degrees at the exhaust header, hot enough to cook cornbread and skin, live with it.
As for impolite, riders, posters, people who don't see it my way, here's one for ya (b!tch slap), because!
Disclaimer - Everything listed was intended to inspire and incite jealousy down to your inner bone marrow.
War out!
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Dale, Indiana | 'Chicken lights'
Trucker term started back in the days when fresh chickens in the south had to be in the North East part of this country overnight.
The trucks were fast and many had lots of lights.
Thus "chicken lights" on a "chicken hauler".
example of my tractor.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v137/IndianaRR/100_1298.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v137/IndianaRR/100_1296.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v137/IndianaRR/100_1289.jpg
Note: The trailer I pull a lot has lots of lights too...... but can't find no pictures of it at night.
Oh yeah.
I call extra lights on a bike 'chicken lights' too!
A bike with extra lights is cool!
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O'Neill, Nebraska | I can't believe I just spent 5 minutes reading and worrying about this. Remember...its not the destination but the journey that counts.
Let's go riding. |
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Brighton, TN | you know you loved it spursmvp. It's about the destination at the end of the read and the amount of time it took up. |
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Brighton, TN | Something about a journey tooooo. |
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