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drdarren
Posted 2013-10-07 4:25 PM (#146355)
Subject: tire lifespan


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 36
Florida
Hi all, I am reaching about 13500 miles on my bike and have not changed out my front tire yet.I am looking for feedback on what the normal lifespan should be on a tire. I had to change my rear one at about 2500 miles since it got a nail in it.

Thanks

Darren
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diamonbird
Posted 2013-10-07 4:48 PM (#146356 - in reply to #146355)
Subject: Re: tire lifespan


Cruiser

Posts: 251
Mechanicsville, VA United States
So are you on a vision?
I've got 13000 on both front and back and it looks like I may get another 4,000 more on the rear and maybe 5,000 more out of the front tire.
I do keep an eye on my pressures though. 41 front and 42 rear. Dunlop E3's. I check mine before every ride.
I also have the tire montor system that lets me know what my pressures are........after riding for some miles the pressure raises on both, around 45 on the front and 49 on the rear. Never check your tires after riding unless you feel there's something wrong with the pressure, always check them before you ride.
I lost a friend(riding) as he had 10 lbs. of pressure in his front tire and it washed out on him in a sharp curve, it wasn't pretty.
One other thing, I changed a friend of mines rear Dunlop E3 on his Vision and I was wondering how much rubber was left on the tire so I drilled a hole in the center of the tire and it had about 3/8" of a inch of rubber left on it, most tires I've check had less than an 1/8" left once there is no tread in the center. Now I don't know about the brands that fit the vision but I do know the Dunlops....it's a very good tire in my OP.

Edited by diamonbird 2013-10-07 4:59 PM
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jeffmack
Posted 2013-10-07 5:09 PM (#146358 - in reply to #146355)
Subject: Re: tire lifespan


Iron Butt

Posts: 623
14,000 is my front tire life span over all 6 tires ive been thru on the vision. I keep my front at 42 and my rear at 40. Never was able to get my rear to 10k but always able to get 9 out of the rear. Much depends on your riding style. 90% of my riding is in the mountains with my hair on fire, so no complaining about the 14k out of the front for me.
Good luck.
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Arkainzeye
Posted 2013-10-07 5:30 PM (#146360 - in reply to #146355)
Subject: Re: tire lifespan


Visionary

Posts: 3773
Pittsburgh, PA
on my 11 vision my front tire had 13200 miles and i thought the tread was "ok".. Meaning maybe able to pass state inspection.. I replaced it anyways. and im glad i did... i was thinking for the past few thousand miles that i had front end "issues" and this included wobble and alot of low speed vibration... so when i replaced my front tire. i used dyna beads instead of taking it to the dealer to be balanced. and wow... what a difference... the rear tire is the same as its been for almost 2 years now. (darkside). Even though i had enough tread be legal. the difference in how the bike rides now will not make me wait like that again..
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johnnyvision
Posted 2013-10-07 6:37 PM (#146361 - in reply to #146355)
Subject: Re: tire lifespan


Visionary

Posts: 4278
Most of the tire left is up to you.
If you check the air once a month you'll soon see it loose 2 or 3 pounds. When temps get over 95 degrees you'll find out the tire looses 3 to 4 pounds ever two weeks.
You need a good gage not the pencil on the Vic give you
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Harbiejoe
Posted 2013-10-07 8:37 PM (#146371 - in reply to #146355)
Subject: Re: tire lifespan


Cruiser

Posts: 83
Springfield Mo.
14,500 changed them both.
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jeffmack
Posted 2013-10-07 10:53 PM (#146379 - in reply to #146355)
Subject: Re: tire lifespan


Iron Butt

Posts: 623
I check the air every time my wheels rotate. 14k is all I can get out of my front. Been darksiding the last 45k, got tired of changeing rear every 9k for little to no benefit
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fnvision
Posted 2013-10-08 1:11 AM (#146385 - in reply to #146355)
Subject: Re: tire lifespan


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 46
Taylorsville, KY
I got 15k out of my front and 17k out of my rear tire. Mostly interstate miles. Probably could have gotten 17k out of the front but had the front wheel off doing the 15 k maintenance so i went ahead and replaced it. The back did start slipping on wet roads till it would catch the better side treads....i wont run one that far down before replacement again; just had to see how many miles i could get out of the first set. Before the vision i had never gotten over 12k out of a touring tire.
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drdarren
Posted 2013-10-08 7:50 AM (#146390 - in reply to #146355)
Subject: Re: tire lifespan


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 36
Florida
Thanks to all for the input. I'll take a close look at the treads to see where they are at. From what I've read I'm reaching that time to replace them.
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Turk
Posted 2013-10-08 1:42 PM (#146400 - in reply to #146390)
Subject: Re: tire lifespan


Iron Butt

Posts: 612
Averaging 17k out of mine, and I'm on my third (2nd replacement) tire. But, with my TPMS, they don't leave the garage without 38psi in the front, and 41psi in the rear!





Edited by Turk 2013-10-08 1:43 PM
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bigfoot
Posted 2013-10-09 11:51 AM (#146425 - in reply to #146355)
Subject: Re: tire lifespan


Tourer

Posts: 494
Akron Ohio area
I've been getting at least 14,000 per set over 60,000 miles. (38 front, 40 rear)
My current set include the new E3 MT which now has 12,000 miles on it and I'm positive I'll get 4-5 thousand more miles out of it.
With the new E3 MT's, Dunlop now recommends we run 41 PSI front and rear.

Anyone using a pop up type of air gauge is simply kidding themselves.
You may as well check the pressure by kicking the tire.
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drdarren
Posted 2013-10-09 2:49 PM (#146431 - in reply to #146355)
Subject: Re: tire lifespan


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 36
Florida
Bigfoot- when you reference the "popup" type of air gauge, do you mean the cheapies or were you addressing it to the TPMS that was mentioned in the reply above yours. I also use the TPMS and thought they were supposed to be pretty specific.
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jeffmack
Posted 2013-10-09 3:01 PM (#146433 - in reply to #146355)
Subject: Re: tire lifespan


Iron Butt

Posts: 623
Dr d. Think he is speaking of the pencil type. I also use a tpms and find it to be very accurate. Pressures aside, riding styles are as big a part as pressures. So for riders to compare their tire life is not a very exact science. I keep my pressures locked, as you know how easy it is with a tpms.
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GURNZ
Posted 2013-10-09 5:18 PM (#146440 - in reply to #146355)
Subject: Re: tire lifespan


Cruiser

Posts: 118
Spfld, IL but temp Bay area, CA
Averaged 13,500 on the 2 rears and nearly 17,000 on the fronts. I run 42 in each.
Going to make 15,000 on the third rear in a few hundred miles and then it will be replaced with the new dual compound E3.
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bigfoot
Posted 2013-10-10 10:03 AM (#146466 - in reply to #146431)
Subject: Re: tire lifespan


Tourer

Posts: 494
Akron Ohio area
drdarren - 2013-10-09 3:49 PM Bigfoot- when you reference the "popup" type of air gauge, do you mean the cheapies or were you addressing it to the TPMS that was mentioned in the reply above yours. I also use the TPMS and thought they were supposed to be pretty specific.

 

The $2 stick pop up ones that you see in auto parts stores.

 

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bigfoot
Posted 2013-10-10 10:14 AM (#146468 - in reply to #146355)
Subject: Re: tire lifespan


Tourer

Posts: 494
Akron Ohio area
Road composition also is a big factor.
Abrasive road surfaces, like in Florida, will of course wear out your tires faster.

I don't play games when it comes to tires.
I always replace my tires in pairs and always before their wear bars are touched.
Too early is preferred to too late, and I never want to have to change tires in the middle of a trip.
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wingit3611
Posted 2013-10-10 10:15 AM (#146469 - in reply to #146356)
Subject: Re: tire lifespan


Cruiser

Posts: 244
41 Front & 42 rear, growing to 45F & 49R tells me that your front cold tie pressor is rite on. A gain of 4 lbs. is what Dunlop used to preach. But your rear could use a little more cold with a gain of 7 lbs. Maybe 44? Did they wear out evenly at 42 cold?
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bigfoot
Posted 2013-10-10 10:25 AM (#146470 - in reply to #146355)
Subject: Re: tire lifespan


Tourer

Posts: 494
Akron Ohio area
Tire pressures fluctuate with the outside temperatures. (about one PSI for every 10 degrees change)
In Ohio we call it putting in Winter air.

Dunlop suggests that with the new E3 MT's we use 41 PSI, front and rear.

I've never had a slow leaker on any of my tires.
All the adjustments I've had to make have been due to outside temperature fluctuations.
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MaddMAx2u
Posted 2013-10-10 2:00 PM (#146478 - in reply to #146355)
Subject: Re: tire lifespan


Iron Butt

Posts: 880
Orlando, FL
Where do you guys ride? Sand lots and the beach? I've never had a set go more than 10K and I thought that was good. What? Oh, yes, I am an aggressive ride and use every inch wall to wall. But still, are you sure you guys don't limit your riding to beach sand only??
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jeffmack
Posted 2013-10-10 3:01 PM (#146480 - in reply to #146469)
Subject: Re: tire lifespan


Iron Butt

Posts: 623
wingit3611 - 2013-10-10 10:15 AM

41 Front & 42 rear, growing to 45F & 49R tells me that your front cold tie pressor is rite on. A gain of 4 lbs. is what Dunlop used to preach. But your rear could use a little more cold with a gain of 7 lbs. Maybe 44? Did they wear out evenly at 42 cold?


This is the exact opposite of the logic I was told by my shop. Was instructed to 42 front and 40 rear. The +7 on the rear is just fine and expected due to the much higher operating temperature of the rear tire, as well as more volume to expand from the extra temp. Just relaying what and how I was informed by a good tech a trust.
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jeffmack
Posted 2013-10-10 3:03 PM (#146481 - in reply to #146478)
Subject: Re: tire lifespan


Iron Butt

Posts: 623
MaddMAx2u - 2013-10-10 2:00 PM

Where do you guys ride? Sand lots and the beach? I've never had a set go more than 10K and I thought that was good. What? Oh, yes, I am an aggressive ride and use every inch wall to wall. But still, are you sure you guys don't limit your riding to beach sand only??


+1. Never more than 9300 out of my rears with pressures locked at 42/40. Sounds like we ride the same
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willtill
Posted 2013-10-10 6:37 PM (#146487 - in reply to #146355)
Subject: Re: tire lifespan


Visionary

Posts: 1365
Central Maryland
41psi front and 42psi rear here. At 15k now and the rear looks to go another 5K. The front? Hardly half worn down.

Edited by willtill 2013-10-10 6:38 PM
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Oldman47
Posted 2013-10-10 8:40 PM (#146492 - in reply to #146355)
Subject: Re: tire lifespan


Tourer

Posts: 573
Central Illinois
I am at 7300 on my OEM tires and they look like new almost. I do not ride on beach sand, too abrasive.
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