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amessen
Posted 2013-07-01 9:59 AM (#141114 - in reply to #139861)
Subject: Re: New Dunlop Elite3 Rear tire


Cruiser

Posts: 271
Belding Michigan
I had a little excitement on Saturday. My bike has always been very stable but I don't ride in the rain often at least not if I can help it. We got caught in a little downpour on Saturday morning I have a new Dunlop E3 on the bike about 2 to 3 hundred miles on it pressure is right and the shock set to hard as I am a big guy. We hit some tar snakes at about 50 mph and the bike was all over the place. Not a pleasant experience this was my first issue with the Victory and far different for the GW I used to ride not sure of the problem yet but this is a show stopper from my point of view. Not being able to trust my footing in the rain is something that may make this have to change. Any ideas are welcome. Archie
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marcparnes
Posted 2013-07-01 10:13 AM (#141118 - in reply to #141114)
Subject: Re: New Dunlop Elite3 Rear tire


Iron Butt

Posts: 802
amessen - 2013-07-01 7:59 AM

I had a little excitement on Saturday. My bike has always been very stable but I don't ride in the rain often at least not if I can help it. We got caught in a little downpour on Saturday morning I have a new Dunlop E3 on the bike about 2 to 3 hundred miles on it pressure is right and the shock set to hard as I am a big guy. We hit some tar snakes at about 50 mph and the bike was all over the place. Not a pleasant experience this was my first issue with the Victory and far different for the GW I used to ride not sure of the problem yet but this is a show stopper from my point of view. Not being able to trust my footing in the rain is something that may make this have to change. Any ideas are welcome. Archie
This is exactly my experience with E3s but without the tar strips. Riding in West Virginia in a moderate rain the front slid out twice for no good reason. I've been riding for near 50 years and have never experienced anything as disconcerting. I considered getting rid of the bike and getting something else if I couldn't ride it safely in the rain. Before doing that I tried a set of Cobras and the problem evaporated. They wear out faster but they restored my confidence in the bike so it's worth it. On the other hand you will hear from plenty of guys that never have a problem in the wet so I don't know why I did but the Cobras resolved it so it doesn't matter.

Marc
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Turk
Posted 2013-07-01 11:04 AM (#141121 - in reply to #141114)
Subject: Re: New Dunlop Elite3 Rear tire


Iron Butt

Posts: 612
amessen - 2013-07-01 9:59 AM

I had a little excitement on Saturday. My bike has always been very stable but I don't ride in the rain often at least not if I can help it. We got caught in a little downpour on Saturday morning I have a new Dunlop E3 on the bike about 2 to 3 hundred miles on it pressure is right and the shock set to hard as I am a big guy. We hit some tar snakes at about 50 mph and the bike was all over the place. Not a pleasant experience this was my first issue with the Victory and far different for the GW I used to ride not sure of the problem yet but this is a show stopper from my point of view. Not being able to trust my footing in the rain is something that may make this have to change. Any ideas are welcome. Archie


Wet tar snakes don't care what brand of tire slides across them.... nor do hot gooey tar snakes. Tread compound and siping only make a difference when there is a surface to adhere to. Wet tar snakes are like wet paint.... all things being equal (bike, speed, lean angle) two different brands of tire are gonna slip equally.
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varyder
Posted 2013-07-01 12:42 PM (#141126 - in reply to #141118)
Subject: Re: New Dunlop Elite3 Rear tire


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA

This is exactly my experience with E3s but without the tar strips. Riding in West Virginia in a moderate rain the front slid out twice for no good reason. I've been riding for near 50 years and have never experienced anything as disconcerting. I considered getting rid of the bike and getting something else if I couldn't ride it safely in the rain. Before doing that I tried a set of Cobras and the problem evaporated. They wear out faster but they restored my confidence in the bike so it's worth it. On the other hand you will hear from plenty of guys that never have a problem in the wet so I don't know why I did but the Cobras resolved it so it doesn't matter. Marc

In my opinion, a dangerous assumption.  Our contact patch is so small, you would have to go and examine every inch of the area where you slipped to find the root cause.  It takes a very small spot to encounter that would cause you to go down, and as others mentioned, it's susceptible to any tire.  So you switch brands and you don't hit a spot, so you assume that all is well using that tire.  Just this morning alone, I was at the courthouse, the parking had recently been resealed.  I never gave it much thought, moved slow as I normally would moving about.  When I went to leave, I got a little heavy on the throttle and I found myself drifting.  It took me back to the days when McDonald's would reseal the parking lot and little bleach and water would get some good smoke from the tires....

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Riverdawg
Posted 2013-07-01 5:56 PM (#141142 - in reply to #139861)
Subject: RE: New Dunlop Elite3 Rear tire


Cruiser

Posts: 160
Camas Washington
Here in the Pacific NW on the west side of the Casade Mts all it does is rain, rain rain. Have E3s on the Vision and there is no poblem with wet roads. People tend to forget if it has not rained for awhile the roads get an oil film on them, when it rains you might as well be on ice. It takes a good rain storm to wash the oil off the roads. Dry spell + light rain = slick roads.
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bigfoot
Posted 2013-07-01 6:05 PM (#141143 - in reply to #139861)
Subject: Re: New Dunlop Elite3 Rear tire


Tourer

Posts: 494
Akron Ohio area
Touring through southern Utah and the 4 corners region when the temperature was in the 110+ region I found that hot tar snakes are equal to black ice.
Two different motorcycles, two different brands of tires. (Bridgestone Battlax and Dunlop E3's)
I was on one road for over 50 miles that had more tar snakes than areas of the road without them.

Touring through Canada on a circumvention of Lake Erie I had similar tar snake issues during a hard rain.

Two wheeled vehicle don't like tar snakes.

As far as the E3's in heavy rain at freeway speeds, no problem at all.
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