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LaGrange, GA | Oldman47 - 2013-04-30 9:52 PM
At 4000 miles I will hate them. No way should anyone ever be looking for replacement tires at a mere 4000 miles. Any even trivially suitable tire should last much longer than that. What about the Metzler tires for that same bike? Maybe they are truly suitable.
I have NO frame of reference on this bike, or any other heavyweight. I have ridden over 100k on sport/sporty bikes. That's my disclaimer.
My Vision came with the Metzelers on it. I can't say how they compare to the E3 (or anything else,) but I'm pretty impressed. They have that feeling of confidence that just lets you naturally ride the bike however you like. Hitting the boards has you concerned with clearance, never thinking about grip. I'm also quite impressed with their lack of cupping, especially the front -- I still brake harder than I should, so I expected a lot of cupping and tread stepping on the front. There's a little, but way less than I thought would be there. I really don't know how long they'll last (I don't even know how old they were when I got it,) but I'm pleased with the performance. Make note, though - I'm not sure they make one with the proper weight rating for the rear. I know mine isn't, but haven't checked to see if they make one yet. I'm pretty small (about 165lbs,) and the wife is small as well (I won't pretend to know her weight, but I know she's hot, so it can't be too much) so I'm not worried about even approaching the limits of weight. If you pack it heavy and tour you might need to think about it, though. |
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Central Illinois | BrandonM7, I have ridden bikes weighing over 850 pounds since 2007. That is my frame of reference. The Yamaha needed a new rear tire at around 12000 and a new front at 18000. The 2010 Electra Glide needed new tires around 15000 miles. The 2011 Road Glide That I presently ride has 14000 and has its original tires on it. I expect them to last at least another 3 or 4 thousand miles for whoever buys my trade-in. Next week I will be on a Vision but I expect the same kind of tire wear as I saw on my other bikes. So far, all of my replacement tires have been ME880s but it seems they are not compatible with the Vision. The Vision tire specs and the ME880s are just too different. It may be an adventure trying to find a good replacement tire.
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Chattanooga, TN | There's a pic of an E3 front tire that looks like what you describe and I had the same wear on my Vision's original front tire. Some good reading too-
http://www.rattlebars.com/tirewear/
Interesting reading, I think I'm ready for bed now, but it was interesting, nonetheless.
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, WI | I never really thought about it before but on all three of my Victory's I used Dunlop tires.
I did use one Bridgestone, a Potenza but that was for only 2000 miles and I took it off and put a Dunlop Winter Sport on.
I think I have ridden on every type of road, in some extreme weather conditions and the Dunlop's always got me home.
Just put a new E3 on the front and a Winter Sport on the back and the bike feels great! |
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| There are many factors that give good or bad tire wear. I now have 30,000 miles on my vision and have been through 3 rears and one front (17,000) . Never have gone more than 10,000 on a rear. I like the throttle and I down shift while braking all this grinds the tire down. In New England our tires wear hard on the left side due to the crown in the road. I always keep 42 lbs in the front and rear. Will it sing later in its life... Yes . But I have found that pressure and using all the tire it keeps it to a minimum. Every thread I have read on tires in this forum hasn't convinced me to darkside or use another brand of tire. They have also been consistant and dependable in rain. |
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Westchester Co., NY | I am pretty good at checking my tire pressure but I still replaced my rear E3 at around 7500 miles due to cupping. |
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Bullhead City, AZ | First E3 13500. E3 # 2 & 3 got 15000 out of both of them so at 28500 on the bike I put a Bridgestone on. Now have 8000 on it and it looks new. If I could have gotten 15000 out of the E3 I would still be driving them. |
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New Bohemia, VA | efd158 - 2013-05-05 5:09 PM I am pretty good at checking my tire pressure but I still replaced my rear E3 at around 7500 miles due to cupping. I would love to see a picture of this "cupping". My E3s have always had some sort of "cupping" or "scallop", but it has been slight. I've never changed a rear under 12,000 or a front under 21,000 miles. For the price, utility and function, E3s are the best there is...IMHO. |
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LaGrange, GA | Oldman47 - 2013-05-04 4:52 PM
BrandonM7, I have ridden bikes weighing over 850 pounds since 2007. That is my frame of reference. The Yamaha needed a new rear tire at around 12000 and a new front at 18000. The 2010 Electra Glide needed new tires around 15000 miles. The 2011 Road Glide That I presently ride has 14000 and has its original tires on it. I expect them to last at least another 3 or 4 thousand miles for whoever buys my trade-in. Next week I will be on a Vision but I expect the same kind of tire wear as I saw on my other bikes. So far, all of my replacement tires have been ME880s but it seems they are not compatible with the Vision. The Vision tire specs and the ME880s are just too different. It may be an adventure trying to find a good replacement tire.
Good deal -- I wish you well on your search, and hope you keep it public. I want to know the best solution, too. I've always been a HUGE fan of Michelin tires on my sport bikes, I really wish they had something for us. Thanks to the Michelin Pilot series I'm spoiled to REALLY good tires. I want to find something that great for the Vision. Maybe the E3s are great, I dunno - the internet gives equal good and bad reviews, so that's almost useless. The only ride I took on them was the Victory demo bike for about 15 miles. Since you have lots of miles on other tires I look forward to your perspective when your bike comes in --- happy riding, hope you love the Vision. |
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LaGrange, GA | varyder - 2013-05-06 7:54 AM
efd158 - 2013-05-05 5:09 PM I am pretty good at checking my tire pressure but I still replaced my rear E3 at around 7500 miles due to cupping. I would love to see a picture of this "cupping".? My E3s have always had some sort of "cupping" or "scallop", but it has been slight.? I've never changed a rear under 12,000 or a front under 21,000 miles.? For the price, utility and function, E3s are the best there is...IMHO.
The stop-and-go rider gets a lot more cupping than the go-and-go rider -- it wouldn't surprise me if you had less cupping than others. Since you obviously put a lot of miles on that means a good bit of open stretches. You should see my dad's tires on his '08 FXSTC. Doesn't matter what brand he runs, he cups the hell out of them, especially the front. Hard off the red light, hard stop at the next one. Over and over and over, his front tire (skinny) almost looks like it belongs on an ATV.
It's crazy how such different effects can be had when the only real variable is the rider. It's easy to lean back sometimes and wonder "what the heck is this dude doing wrong?" But maybe they aren't doing anything wrong - maybe they're just doing what they enjoy, and they need different tools to do it. |
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New Bohemia, VA | BrandonM7 - 2013-05-06 1:23 PM varyder - 2013-05-06 7:54 AM efd158 - 2013-05-05 5:09 PM I am pretty good at checking my tire pressure but I still replaced my rear E3 at around 7500 miles due to cupping. I would love to see a picture of this "cupping".? My E3s have always had some sort of "cupping" or "scallop", but it has been slight.? I've never changed a rear under 12,000 or a front under 21,000 miles.? For the price, utility and function, E3s are the best there is...IMHO. The stop-and-go rider gets a lot more cupping than the go-and-go rider -- it wouldn't surprise me if you had less cupping than others. Since you obviously put a lot of miles on that means a good bit of open stretches. You should see my dad's tires on his '08 FXSTC. Doesn't matter what brand he runs, he cups the hell out of them, especially the front. Hard off the red light, hard stop at the next one. Over and over and over, his front tire (skinny) almost looks like it belongs on an ATV. It's crazy how such different effects can be had when the only real variable is the rider. It's easy to lean back sometimes and wonder "what the heck is this dude doing wrong?" But maybe they aren't doing anything wrong - maybe they're just doing what they enjoy, and they need different tools to do it.You put that very well. I will say, I have a lot of stop and go since the majority of my miles is commuter miles.
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