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Iron Butt
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| baadawg - 2013-04-28 2:23 PM
Question, if the cam timing is advanced, does that mean it is adding fuel sooner in the combustion cycle?It doesn't mess with the cam timing. It makes the ignition and f/i timing adjustable. The ignition change is what makes the difference. Just got to watch out for pinging in the summer on a hill under load. I asked Lloyd about pinging and he said no problems have surfaced. Probably best to run premium gas particularly if you have his cams installed.
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Iron Butt
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| baadawg - 2013-04-28 4:23 PM
Question, if the cam timing is advanced, does that mean it is adding fuel sooner in the combustion cycle?
Yes and no. The timing wheel advances the ignition process, which is fuel, and spark. It doesn't change cam timing.
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Cruiser
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| Turk - 2013-04-29 8:44 AM baadawg - 2013-04-28 4:23 PM Question, if the cam timing is advanced, does that mean it is adding fuel sooner in the combustion cycle? Yes and no. The timing wheel advances the ignition process, which is fuel, and spark. It doesn't change cam timing. I'd love to see one of the exsperts comment on that. Not insulting anyone. I just jumped to the conclusion it was only changing the spark timing. |
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Iron Butt
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| Kevinx did when we first started discussing this. You'd have to do a search.
I found it. Here is his quote:
"The gear is not a gear. It is a reluctor wheel. The crank sensor looks at it to determine where TDC is. By adding this part you can trick the ECM into firing the plugs, AND injectors; up to four degrees early or late. It is the perfect compliment to a cammed Vic"
Marc
Edited by marcparnes 2013-04-29 9:52 AM
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Cruiser
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| Marc: Thank"s. I should have realized in this modern electron fuel injector system something had to tell the injectors when to fire. |
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Puddle Jumper
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Galesburg, IL | I added the ATW to my 2010 Sunday. Definitely feels like it pulls harder to me. The other "mods" I have done is the secondary air intake filter from Lloydz and disconnected the O2 sensors. Saturday (before the ATW add) my bike was on the Dyno at The Vic Shop during Rylan's open house. It showed 86 HP and 102 ft lbs of torque. According to Rylan, it is where it should be for what I've done. My bike has almost 21K on it and is running really rich...filled his bay with the black smoke!
Next up and probably last up is the Power Commander V and Dyno tuning by Rylan. |
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Visionary
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Jasper, MO | michaelcl1970 - 2013-05-13 4:48 PM
I added the ATW to my 2010 Sunday. Definitely feels like it pulls harder to me. The other "mods" I have done is the secondary air intake filter from Lloydz and disconnected the O2 sensors. Saturday (before the ATW add) my bike was on the Dyno at The Vic Shop during Rylan's open house. It showed 86 HP and 102 ft lbs of torque. According to Rylan, it is where it should be for what I've done. My bike has almost 21K on it and is running really rich...filled his bay with the black smoke!
Next up and probably last up is the Power Commander V and Dyno tuning by Rylan.
Just have Rylan add the cams while you're there. You'll already have everything else you need to feed the hidden extra 20 to 25 horsepower that the stock cams will be costing you. When you get the PCV, have Rylan increase the rev-limit to 6500 RPM to go with the cams.
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What I think about the Lloyd'z Adjustable Timing Wheel
