tire problem
vision10
Posted 2011-08-28 12:50 PM (#94989)
Subject: tire problem


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Fort Covington, NY
My e3 rear tire come apart on my trip to Cape Cod. I noticed i lilttle vibration on the highway when i took my hotel's exit it was as if i was running a square tire. I stopped and saw that the tread was coming off. Tire was in bad shape most of the tread had rips like in it. Call the local victory dealer and they didn't have a tire in stock coundn't get one until Monday or Tuesday day this was Thrusday. I then called a honda dealer, they had one in stock and would fix it the next day. What is it with victory dealers not having tires in stock (second time a victory dealer didn't have a tire in stock)? Thevictory dealer didn't seem interested in helping me find a tire.

Has any one have this problem with thier e3 tires or ideas why this happen? I check my tire before i left on my trip- pressure was good (41) and tire was in good shape still had plenty of miles left on it. I ride two up with gear. This is the second e3 that has done this to me the first one I thought I might had ran it low on pressure so now i check pressure almost everytime I ride. Going to call my polaris dealer on Monday and then hopefully will get a number for the tire company.
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willtill
Posted 2011-08-28 1:40 PM (#94994 - in reply to #94989)
Subject: RE: tire problem


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Posts: 1365
Central Maryland
That does suck. I've heard nothing but good things about the E3's ...until now. I would contact Dunlop (or have your dealer) to file a warranty claim against them. Fair wear and tear through normal use is one thing; a tire that decides to de-laminate it's tread is a whole 'nuther issue....
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certz656
Posted 2011-08-28 1:52 PM (#94997 - in reply to #94989)
Subject: RE: tire problem


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Posts: 13
Central Nevada
How many miles are getting on the E3's? I had a Bridgestone Battleaxe on my Warrior do the same thing, chunks coming from the middle of the tread. Had it replaced at a motorcycycle tire only shop, he said to always check the date stamp code on the sidewall, he said motorcycle tires should not go past 4yrs., no matter the mileage, they can start coming apart as the rubber compound breaks down. The ones on my Warrior were 6 yrs. old, they were the originals. He said some bike shops can have tires in stock that are dated past their useful stage.
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glighto11
Posted 2011-08-28 2:12 PM (#95003 - in reply to #94989)
Subject: Re: tire problem


Iron Butt

Posts: 741
Central New York
You have a trailer hitch or any other mods that may be hitting the tire when loaded down? Anything in your neighborhood that can be cutting up the rubber? I haven't heard of any Vision problems as you describe, and for you to have two would seem to point to something peculiar to you and your tire's environment.
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vision10
Posted 2011-08-28 4:43 PM (#95011 - in reply to #95003)
Subject: Re: tire problem


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Posts: 52
Fort Covington, NY
no mods what so ever to my vision. I live in northern ny, roads are not the greatest but are ok. I did have my rear shock replaced three weeks ago by my victory dealer. The dealer also replace my rear tire about month before that. I also believe the problem may be something with my bike so I'm hopong my dealer and Polaris will work together.
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glighto11
Posted 2011-08-28 5:04 PM (#95014 - in reply to #94989)
Subject: Re: tire problem


Iron Butt

Posts: 741
Central New York
What was the problem with the rear shock? Is it possible this tire's damage started before the shock replacement?
Also, can you state the year and total miles of the bike?
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vision10
Posted 2011-08-28 5:30 PM (#95016 - in reply to #95014)
Subject: Re: tire problem


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Posts: 52
Fort Covington, NY
it could be possible that the tire damage was done before shock was replaced but shouldn't they have said something at the dealership? my vision is a 2010 with almost 22000 miles on it. The rear shock was leaking. It took my dealer a week to get the new shock and i did ride the bike back from the dealer and then back to the dealers to get it fixed. I look the tire over before my trip it looked fine but I'm not an expert on tires.
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johnnyvision
Posted 2011-08-28 5:37 PM (#95017 - in reply to #94989)
Subject: Re: tire problem


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Posts: 4278
It I didn't like the vision so much I would have never boughten one just cause of the dealer ships.
They have to order parts that should be on the shelf.
The tech knows half of what you know about the bike. "thats the way the bike is" That's BS in my book.
Yes the lack of tire and price that are marketed up to full retail. A dealer doesn't have to carry that meany different sizes. Think of harley having to carry 75 different sizes.
I do think Polaris has let us down and will make future buyers shy away.
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glighto11
Posted 2011-08-28 5:51 PM (#95020 - in reply to #94989)
Subject: Re: tire problem


Iron Butt

Posts: 741
Central New York
When you stopped and saw the tread was separating, did the tire seem excessively hot? Any time I have ever seen tread separate it was from either being cut up ( which you would have seen before starting), or heat buildup. That kind of heat buildup can come from rubbing (which you should have felt), low tire pressure (sure your gauge is good), or a dragging brake (to go through two tires the brakes would be gone).

The fact that you didn't feel anything or smell anything, I gotta say, I'm inclined to believe you tire gauge is not being truthful with you.
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vision10
Posted 2011-08-28 7:10 PM (#95026 - in reply to #95020)
Subject: Re: tire problem


Cruiser

Posts: 52
Fort Covington, NY
going to buy new guage just to make sure the old one is reading right. the tire was not overly hot i could keep my hand on it. There was no rubbing against the tire- i travel about 250 miles at or around 70 -73 mph most of the time. Brakes are still good. When i stop for gas i didn't check pressure with gauge but i did kick the tire and my 2 buddies were riding behind me most of the way, I believe they would of notice if the 'look' tire soft. I leaning toward something wrong bike- shock if that could make a tire come apart.
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Nozzledog
Posted 2011-08-28 11:20 PM (#95037 - in reply to #94989)
Subject: Re: tire problem


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Posts: 1229
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
When you noticed the seperation, did it still have full pressure? I have heard many people comment that the Vision rides normally even after hitting something that caused to tire to deflate. Riding only a couple miles on a tire without air could cause that and it is possible not to have felt it happen. Without a TPMS, you may never know. Of course if the tire still had full pressure, than disregard this post.
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vision10
Posted 2011-08-29 5:56 AM (#95049 - in reply to #95037)
Subject: Re: tire problem


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Posts: 52
Fort Covington, NY
yes the tire still had full pressure. I drove it 4 miles to the honda dealer to save on the towing charge and the 3 hour wait.
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RobertDuval
Posted 2011-08-29 8:50 AM (#95058 - in reply to #94989)
Subject: RE: tire problem


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Posts: 131
Edmond, OK 2012 Vision, 2012 Cross Country

FYI, The tires that fit our Victory's also fit a goldwing same size. So keep that in mind when you are out and have tire problems try a Honda dealer as well. 

 

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glighto11
Posted 2011-08-29 9:19 AM (#95061 - in reply to #94989)
Subject: RE: tire problem


Iron Butt

Posts: 741
Central New York

It is a good tip that you can check a Honda dealer for a tire, the big question is; WHY SHOULD YOU HAVE TO?

There is no excuse for a Victory dealer not having a tire for a Vision, IN STOCK. It is a wear item. It is the same tire on all Visions and Xs.

When you sell an 'over the road' "Touring" bike, you should expect people aren't buying it to go to the corner for cigarettes, they are buying it to 'tour'.

Victory, Polaris, and the dealers should expect that when a 'wear' item fails it will in all likelihood leave the rider high and dry miles from home. 'Wear' items can, and often do, fail prematurely.

Possibly I just don't understand the "dealership" business, but it just doesn't make sense to me. If I threw a rod out the bottom of the crankcase - no motor in stock - I understand. No tire - excuse me?

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trailbarge
Posted 2011-08-29 10:50 AM (#95066 - in reply to #95061)
Subject: RE: tire problem


Tourer

Posts: 363
Goldsboro, NC
glighto11 - 2011-08-29 10:19 AM

It is a good tip that you can check a Honda dealer for a tire, the big question is; WHY SHOULD YOU HAVE TO?...

...Possibly I just don't understand the "dealership" business, but it just doesn't make sense to me. If I threw a rod out the bottom of the crankcase - no motor in stock - I understand. No tire - excuse me?

Hear, here!!!
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johnnyvision
Posted 2011-08-29 10:57 AM (#95069 - in reply to #94989)
Subject: Re: tire problem


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I would buy this style gauge if it were me
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johnnyvision
Posted 2011-08-29 10:58 AM (#95070 - in reply to #94989)
Subject: Re: tire problem


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I would buy this style gauge if it were me



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vision10
Posted 2011-08-29 7:37 PM (#95136 - in reply to #95061)
Subject: RE: tire problem


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Posts: 52
Fort Covington, NY
i had my tire replaced at a honda dealer, they had one in stock not a e3 but they got me back on the road. I agree with you that victory dealers should have e3 tires in stock. polaris needs to step up and start helping their dealers out. I having been dealing with polaris for many years with sleds and 4 wheelers it has been the same bullshit with all polaris toys but i still ride them over the others.
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8-ball
Posted 2011-08-29 8:25 PM (#95143 - in reply to #94989)
Subject: Re: tire problem


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Posts: 457
Green Bay, WI United States
The fact that there is not a Victory dealer on every corner and that they need to order parts always makes me think twice about haulin ass across the country. Not that I don't like "some" adventure but I don't have the money to stay from Thursday until next Tuesday to get on the road again as a rule, or tow the bike 200 miles to the closest dealer. I am due for tires on both bikes very soon and would like to go to the max before replacing them but both bike have that corner (bearings growling) howl sound in the corner so I know they are close. Thanks for all the info on this site....

Ride hard, ride fast, but above all ride safe and free....

8-ball/Wildman
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rainryder
Posted 2011-08-29 8:35 PM (#95146 - in reply to #94989)
Subject: Re: tire problem


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Posts: 444
Bay of Gigs, WA
I was in Medford, OR a couple years ago and found three cuts in the tread of my E3. The nearest Victory dealer was in Grants Pass, 25 or so miles up the road, but that knucklehead didn't have an E3 in stock either. He said, "I can have one here by Friday." I said, "That's a great idea. Maybe you can order several so you might have some on hand for the next guy. Since it's Monday now, I am pretty sure we won't be doing any business together because I'm going to utilize my wife's smart phone and find a real motorcycle dealer." Sheesh. The Harley guys didn't have one, but the Honda dealer also sold Kawasakis and the big Voyager uses a belt drive, which is what I was really concerned about. I ended up with a Metzler Marathon, and guess what? No worries so far, in 3,000 miles it still looks new.

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Handyhoward
Posted 2011-08-30 9:15 AM (#95173 - in reply to #94989)
Subject: Re: tire problem


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Posts: 92
Fort Walton Beach, FL
For those of you who have read my previous posts you know well my stance that Polaris/Victory are NOT consumer friendly organizations... they do NOT understand nor do they care about costumer service. They tapped a booming market at the right time and are riding the high... learn to work on your own machines for the parent companies will not be around too long at the rate that they are going... word is spreading... if I could offload my Vision without taking an absolute bath, I would. For now I have done three warranty items myself... they were done correctly and by someone who cares. My guess is that for as long as I own this bike it will never see the inside of a Victory dealership again. Polaris can keep their money... I tell everyone who flocks around my bike, because the bike has eye appeal and runs well now that I have fixed a few items, that unless they plan on doing their own service work and know how to locate parts all over the country, STAY AWAY FROM POLARIS/VICTORY PRODUCTS!!!
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Maverick
Posted 2011-08-30 12:14 PM (#95182 - in reply to #95173)
Subject: Re: tire problem


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Posts: 154
Cabot Arkansas
Handyhoward - 2011-08-30 9:15 AM

For those of you who have read my previous posts you know well my stance that Polaris/Victory are NOT consumer friendly organizations... they do NOT understand nor do they care about costumer service. They tapped a booming market at the right time and are riding the high... learn to work on your own machines for the parent companies will not be around too long at the rate that they are going... word is spreading... if I could offload my Vision without taking an absolute bath, I would. For now I have done three warranty items myself... they were done correctly and by someone who cares. My guess is that for as long as I own this bike it will never see the inside of a Victory dealership again. Polaris can keep their money... I tell everyone who flocks around my bike, because the bike has eye appeal and runs well now that I have fixed a few items, that unless they plan on doing their own service work and know how to locate parts all over the country, STAY AWAY FROM POLARIS/VICTORY PRODUCTS!!!


Howard, are you aware that you are an easy ride away from one of the premier Victory mechanics (kevinx) at the Polaris of Gainesville dealership.I took my Vision there this spring and they were great folks and NO ONE is better than kevinx when it comes to Vic's .

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Cap'n Nemo
Posted 2011-08-30 12:50 PM (#95184 - in reply to #95173)
Subject: Re: tire problem


Visionary

Posts: 1359
New Bohemia, Va
Handyhoward - 2011-08-30 9:15 AM

For those of you who have read my previous posts you know well my stance that Polaris/Victory are NOT consumer friendly organizations... they do NOT understand nor do they care about costumer service. They tapped a booming market at the right time and are riding the high... learn to work on your own machines for the parent companies will not be around too long at the rate that they are going... word is spreading... if I could offload my Vision without taking an absolute bath, I would. For now I have done three warranty items myself... they were done correctly and by someone who cares. My guess is that for as long as I own this bike it will never see the inside of a Victory dealership again. Polaris can keep their money... I tell everyone who flocks around my bike, because the bike has eye appeal and runs well now that I have fixed a few items, that unless they plan on doing their own service work and know how to locate parts all over the country, STAY AWAY FROM POLARIS/VICTORY PRODUCTS!!!


why do you feel as one person to warn everyone to stay away from Polaris? I say, run to Polaris, run to Victory, love the product, love the support, love the interaction with other happy owners. Sorry for your misfortune and bad taste but that doesn't make it a bad product. Every manufacturer has it's problems, and has for years, just a Victory and Polaris, but thankfully they are still in business because of the overwhelming number of happy customers.
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donetracey
Posted 2011-08-30 1:15 PM (#95185 - in reply to #95184)
Subject: Re: tire problem


Visionary

Posts: 2118
Pitt Meadows, BC Canada

Cap'n Nemo - 2011-08-30 10:50 AM Handyhoward - 2011-08-30 9:15 AM For those of you who have read my previous posts you know well my stance that Polaris/Victory are NOT consumer friendly organizations... they do NOT understand nor do they care about costumer service. They tapped a booming market at the right time and are riding the high... learn to work on your own machines for the parent companies will not be around too long at the rate that they are going... word is spreading... if I could offload my Vision without taking an absolute bath, I would. For now I have done three warranty items myself... they were done correctly and by someone who cares. My guess is that for as long as I own this bike it will never see the inside of a Victory dealership again. Polaris can keep their money... I tell everyone who flocks around my bike, because the bike has eye appeal and runs well now that I have fixed a few items, that unless they plan on doing their own service work and know how to locate parts all over the country, STAY AWAY FROM POLARIS/VICTORY PRODUCTS!!! why do you feel as one person to warn everyone to stay away from Polaris? I say, run to Polaris, run to Victory, love the product, love the support, love the interaction with other happy owners. Sorry for your misfortune and bad taste but that doesn't make it a bad product. Every manufacturer has it's problems, and has for years, just a Victory and Polaris, but thankfully they are still in business because of the overwhelming number of happy customers.

+1 !!!!!!

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pollolittle
Posted 2011-08-30 1:26 PM (#95186 - in reply to #94989)
Subject: Re: tire problem


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Posts: 2027
Brighton, TN
Yep, and it's been mentioned that he should take it there. But that ain't his point. He is not getting fair treatment from the dealerships!

To avoid all confusion, we collectively think he should take the bath and move on to a bike and dealership of his choice. Because predominantly he ain't changing most of our minds about the company we support or the bike we ride.

1. He should open his own dealership and show us how its done and still be profitable.
2. Go to work for the company and help change it in the right direction.
3. Put more effort into getting CHANGE made instead of bashing the existence of said company, which isn't bringing about change.
4. With the amount of effort on his part to sully, bad mouth, steer customers away from Polaris / Victory, he could have already gotten his Masters degree in Business Administration and Marketing! Which would allow him to have a job at the company of his choice to promulgate CHANGE!

Yes, I have the right to read or not read your commentary! I also have the right to reply, which seemed to interest me at the moment.
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Handyhoward
Posted 2011-08-31 7:57 AM (#95255 - in reply to #95186)
Subject: Re: tire problem


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Posts: 92
Fort Walton Beach, FL
pollolittle - 2011-08-30 1:26 PM

Yep, and it's been mentioned that he should take it there. But that ain't his point. He is not getting fair treatment from the dealerships!

To avoid all confusion, we collectively think he should take the bath and move on to a bike and dealership of his choice. Because predominantly he ain't changing most of our minds about the company we support or the bike we ride.

1. He should open his own dealership and show us how its done and still be profitable.
2. Go to work for the company and help change it in the right direction.
3. Put more effort into getting CHANGE made instead of bashing the existence of said company, which isn't bringing about change.
4. With the amount of effort on his part to sully, bad mouth, steer customers away from Polaris / Victory, he could have already gotten his Masters degree in Business Administration and Marketing! Which would allow him to have a job at the company of his choice to promulgate CHANGE!

Yes, I have the right to read or not read your commentary! I also have the right to reply, which seemed to interest me at the moment.


Instead of me taking a "bath" why don't you personally chip in the difference if my posts are such a bother?

I am not going to change your mind, and I don't want to change your mind... you obviously have drunken the kool aid. But I will continue to voice my opinion when and where there is another rider asking questions or making comments about the Victory bikes and the company that stands behind them - NOT!

Also, I have no interest in "changing" Polaris/Victory... let them lead themselves down whatever path they choose. Makes little difference to me.

There are two sides to every coin... both have the right to shine. Because my side may not be to your and your ilks liking doesn't mean that it should be shoved under the carpet... put all the facts on the table and let each individual decide for themselves what conclusions they draw.
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Cap'n Nemo
Posted 2011-08-31 8:25 AM (#95263 - in reply to #94989)
Subject: Re: tire problem


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New Bohemia, Va
sometimes one side of the coin is dirty...
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Handyhoward
Posted 2011-08-31 9:20 AM (#95264 - in reply to #95263)
Subject: Re: tire problem


Cruiser

Posts: 92
Fort Walton Beach, FL
Cap'n Nemo - 2011-08-31 8:25 AM

sometimes one side of the coin is dirty...


That's only YOUR opinion... and it's only your opinion which side it is. I believe in full disclosure in everything... no hidden agenda, no glossing over the facts as they appear to be. "Political Correctness" was introduced by un-creative people who could not nor would not grasp the idea that people have different perspectives on happenings in life... they were/are only comfortable in their own middling view of life.
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pollolittle
Posted 2011-08-31 9:41 AM (#95265 - in reply to #94989)
Subject: Re: tire problem


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Posts: 2027
Brighton, TN
HandyHoward if nothing else I'll give you the point of being passionate to the extreme! I don't have the passion you have for the quest you are on, Kudos to you. Like most others, it would seem easier in life to take the bath and move on to something else which would give me more pleasure for the amount of time I have left, than be overwhelmed and passionately distasteful of the product I own. I ain't made of money and I do most all of my own work on bikes and vehicles I own and when they become a burden mentally, no matter the cost, I unload it to make room for better things in my mind. Which of course, get justified appropriately, due to the amount of money I had to let go of.

Yeah man, the kool-aid tastes great with a little watermelon and rum added to it. I would rather see you happy with the bike of your choice than disgruntled. So, if I could pour you some Kool-aid it wouldn't be my flavor but I'd at least ask which flavor you wanted and stir it up for you and hand it to you with two large cubes of ice to keep it cool.

I would gather to venture there are disgruntled economic consumers from every company. I just have to weed through the products and choose the best I can. When I chose Victory, it had the best options for my happy mindset.

In response to your above post - It would seem you are only projecting the bad perspective of your experience, if what you deem as necessary to an unfiltered, un-political correctness, then wouldn't you give the good also. Just wondering.

Edited by pollolittle 2011-08-31 9:43 AM
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Cap'n Nemo
Posted 2011-08-31 9:52 AM (#95267 - in reply to #94989)
Subject: Re: tire problem


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Posts: 1359
New Bohemia, Va
It the scheme of things most folks are only out for their own gain. I would say this of Polaris and Victory and Indian. Those that work they need the dollars we spend for their product, just as each of us that work have our talent we sell. It is obvious that Victory has done a very good job of decieving a small portion of the masses who choose to ride motorcycles. Handyhoward has carried the torch to expose this evilness of Polaris. Harley must be the shiny penny of all motorcycles since they are spotless of the travesties that Handyhoward has exposed of Victory. I am beginning to see the error of my ways and will purchase a Harley the next time when my Vision succumbs to all the hidden problems that Victory will refuse to address or I am unable to repair. And here I thought that Harley was the evil one and the more costly motorcycle to own and maintain. Thanks Handyhoward for exposing this evil empire and enlightening me. I am forever grateful

Edited by Cap'n Nemo 2011-08-31 9:53 AM
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Handyhoward
Posted 2011-08-31 10:06 AM (#95269 - in reply to #94989)
Subject: Re: tire problem


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Posts: 92
Fort Walton Beach, FL
This isn't about the bike itself... if you would read my other posts, I do think that the Victory Vision that I ride is great... After I have fixed the items that should have been taken care of by the company, the bike runs and drives great. This IS about the lack of customer caring that permeates all of the motorcycle industry, and especially Victory/Polaris. My warning stands... IMO Victory is at the bottom of the customer satisfaction index when it comes to their dealers being willing and able to do competent work on their own bikes.
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Travelin Man
Posted 2011-08-31 11:53 AM (#95275 - in reply to #94989)
Subject: RE: tire problem


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Posts: 721

vision10 - 2011-08-28 12:50 PM My e3 rear tire come apart on my trip to Cape Cod. I noticed i lilttle vibration on the highway when i took my hotel's exit it was as if i was running a square tire. I stopped and saw that the tread was coming off. Tire was in bad shape most of the tread had rips like in it. Call the local victory dealer and they didn't have a tire in stock coundn't get one until Monday or Tuesday day this was Thrusday. I then called a honda dealer, they had one in stock and would fix it the next day. What is it with victory dealers not having tires in stock (second time a victory dealer didn't have a tire in stock)? Thevictory dealer didn't seem interested in helping me find a tire. Has any one have this problem with thier e3 tires or ideas why this happen? I check my tire before i left on my trip- pressure was good (41) and tire was in good shape still had plenty of miles left on it. I ride two up with gear. This is the second e3 that has done this to me the first one I thought I might had ran it low on pressure so now i check pressure almost everytime I ride. Going to call my polaris dealer on Monday and then hopefully will get a number for the tire company.

I have probably gone through 5 or 6 sets of E3s, 4 sets on my old GL1800 Goldwing and 2 sets so far on my Vision and I have NEVER heard of something like this happening.  Obviously you you check your pressures so that shouldn't have been an issue (I run the same pressure in my rear tire) so perhaps it is possible that you simply had a defective tire.  I would write or contact Dunlop with the manufacturing date code of the tire (if you recorded it) and see what they say.

As far as the Victory dealerships not carrying the tires and having to order them, I have seen a trend in Victory dealerships that they tend to be small dealerships with usually less than 7-8 people working there including the mechanics or owners.  That means that they probably do not have the financial capital to stock multiple sets of tires for all the different Victory models.  Most Honda dealerships are usually much larger and with much larger sales, thus they have the financial capital to have a completely stocked parts department.  I have run into the need to have parts ordered from my Honda dealer so even they do not have everything in stock.

In the end, I'm glad to hear that you did not have an accident due to your failed tire and that you were able to get it replaced while on the road.

 

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donetracey
Posted 2011-08-31 1:52 PM (#95282 - in reply to #95269)
Subject: Re: tire problem


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Posts: 2118
Pitt Meadows, BC Canada

Handyhoward - 2011-08-31 8:06 AM This isn't about the bike itself... if you would read my other posts, I do think that the Victory Vision that I ride is great... After I have fixed the items that should have been taken care of by the company, the bike runs and drives great. This IS about the lack of customer caring that permeates all of the motorcycle industry, and especially Victory/Polaris. My warning stands... IMO Victory is at the bottom of the customer satisfaction index when it comes to their dealers being willing and able to do competent work on their own bikes.

Thats funny!  Bottom of WHO'S 'customer satisfaction index'???? Yours?

Time for the 'old standby fix' that I apply anytime I think someone is out to 'poison' prospective new Victory owners. There have been 2 others since I joined the forum 3 years back - I wouldn't be surprised if they are getting paid to do this.

Here's what I do (and will do right after I post this):

Click on 'Control Panel' and you will see these choices:

Unsubscribe from threads
Mass subscribe / unsubscribe to forums
Add / Edit Ignore List
 

Select Add / Edit Ignore - and add the user who's opinions you don't want to read. Voila! Instant Grief Relief ! You can even add MINE !!!

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Amibrau
Posted 2011-08-31 1:53 PM (#95283 - in reply to #94989)
Subject: RE: tire problem


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"This isn't about the bike itself... if you would read my other posts, I do think that the Victory Vision that I ride is great... After I have fixed the items that should have been taken care of by the company, the bike runs and drives great. This IS about the lack of customer caring that permeates all of the motorcycle industry, and especially Victory/Polaris. My warning stands... IMO Victory is at the bottom of the customer satisfaction index when it comes to their dealers being willing and able to do competent work on their own bikes."

And here I thought this was about a TIRE PROBLEM.....

Now I'm scared...when will my vision disintegrate beneath me...i have 40,000 miles on her so it must happen soon.....right? And since there are NO PARTS or TIRES at the dealers WHO DON'T GIVE A SHIT...well...I'll just have to join Cap'n Nemo and buy me a Hardley Drivenson.....



Edited by Amibrau 2011-08-31 1:56 PM
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Handyhoward
Posted 2011-08-31 2:13 PM (#95285 - in reply to #94989)
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Thats funny! Bottom of WHO'S 'customer satisfaction index'???? Yours?

That's what "IMO" means...LOL
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donetracey
Posted 2011-08-31 2:25 PM (#95286 - in reply to #94989)
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IMHO if a 'heavy opinion' is expressed then IMO it should be IMHO since IMO implies someone might be impressed by your opinion and IMHO no one should.
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Cap'n Nemo
Posted 2011-08-31 2:33 PM (#95290 - in reply to #94989)
Subject: RE: tire problem


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Vision10 - sorry for hijacking your thread with other comments. As far as the E3's go, Victory was very wise to go with the Gold Wing standard tire. I like the Dunlaps and particulary the E3s for various reasons plus the availability is great because of the Gold Wing. My dealer NEVER stocked the tires because they have to buy them up front and they usually don't have that kind of cash flow. Also, they don't expect you to NEED it right now and would hope you would order them and wait for them to come in. I did that one time with my dealer. The bad thing is too me is that they are not ready to support the wayfaring stranger who needs a tire and is stuck, oh but wait, find a Honda dealer who keeps them normally in stock.

I didn't read back through the posts so I don't know if these were mentioned, but if your tire is losing air it could be something else. No tire is made to run low for any length of time. Other things to check is the valve stem, valve core, bead or cracked rim. I would think there is a certain liability for the orginal tire to Polaris, but after the first one that would go to the tire manufacturer unless you had a manufacturer defect in your rim that caused the leak. Also, it would be up to you or your service point to change or recommend change of the valve stem or inspect for problems and not make Polaris liable. One would hope one day that Victory dealers are as plentious as Wal-Marts, but that day isn't tomorrow.

I hope you get it figured out.
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Handyhoward
Posted 2011-08-31 2:59 PM (#95294 - in reply to #95286)
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donetracey - 2011-08-31 2:25 PM

IMHO if a 'heavy opinion' is expressed then IMO it should be IMHO since IMO implies someone might be impressed by your opinion and IMHO no one should.


You know what people who cannot think of anything smart to say do? They start picking nits... IMO IMHO LMAO
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donetracey
Posted 2011-08-31 4:22 PM (#95295 - in reply to #95294)
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Handyhoward - 2011-08-31 12:59 PM You know what people who cannot think of anything smart to say do? They start picking nits... IMO IMHO LMAO

And you're good at it ! - IMHO

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Travelin Man
Posted 2011-08-31 4:41 PM (#95296 - in reply to #95290)
Subject: RE: tire problem


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Cap'n Nemo - 2011-08-31 2:33 PM Vision10 - sorry for hijacking your thread with other comments. As far as the E3's go, Victory was very wise to go with the Gold Wing standard tire. I like the Dunlaps and particulary the E3s for various reasons plus the availability is great because of the Gold Wing. My dealer NEVER stocked the tires because they have to buy them up front and they usually don't have that kind of cash flow. Also, they don't expect you to NEED it right now and would hope you would order them and wait for them to come in. I did that one time with my dealer. The bad thing is too me is that they are not ready to support the wayfaring stranger who needs a tire and is stuck, oh but wait, find a Honda dealer who keeps them normally in stock. I didn't read back through the posts so I don't know if these were mentioned, but if your tire is losing air it could be something else. No tire is made to run low for any length of time. Other things to check is the valve stem, valve core, bead or cracked rim. I would think there is a certain liability for the orginal tire to Polaris, but after the first one that would go to the tire manufacturer unless you had a manufacturer defect in your rim that caused the leak. Also, it would be up to you or your service point to change or recommend change of the valve stem or inspect for problems and not make Polaris liable. One would hope one day that Victory dealers are as plentious as Wal-Marts, but that day isn't tomorrow. I hope you get it figured out.

A BIG +1!

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hoosiervic
Posted 2011-08-31 5:37 PM (#95300 - in reply to #94989)
Subject: Re: tire problem


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Just a quick plug for one of the Indy dealers, Falcone Powersports. When I had my blowout on the rear E3 a couple weeks ago - due to a large piece of sheet metal that sliced into my tire - I was about 7 miles from that dealer. I called and they stayed open 45 minutes late to accommodate me, offered to provide a pickup of my bike if I needed and had an E3 in stock with which they repaired my bike by 10:00 the next morning. Some dealers run a AAA+ operation and know how to provide great service. I have had the same level of customer service with Indy Powersports on the northwest side of Indy.

As for the E3's, per my previous post related to my blowout, I am amazed at the amount of sidewall support designed into this tire and how well the bike handles on a flat rear E3 in an emergency situation. I would trust that tire more at this point than anything else on the market at this time.

As far as availability goes, I would be willing to bet the E3 is one of if not the most available tire on the market in the U.S. Any dealer can handle the tire change on any bike. So I say we are in the perfect place as far as riding security when it comes to our tires.
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rainryder
Posted 2011-08-31 6:19 PM (#95308 - in reply to #94989)
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Outstanding! This is better than an oil thread! And no Kittens dying! LOL

Dunlop, Polaris, Victory, Harley (and a player to be named later) are obviously of the Devil and need immediate exorcism!

Egads I love this website! hahahaha!!!

Give me a minute to get some more popcorn and another beer! ROTFLMAO!! :0>




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Cap'n Nemo
Posted 2011-08-31 6:36 PM (#95311 - in reply to #94989)
Subject: Re: tire problem


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Riding Off To Find Lisa Maria And Olivia.... (ROTFLMAO)
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rainryder
Posted 2011-08-31 6:46 PM (#95313 - in reply to #94989)
Subject: Re: tire problem


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Roger that!

I can see that the weight of the Vision can be problematic for tires, however...It weighs more than my sister, and NOTHING weighs more than my sister. Except my other sister!

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donetracey
Posted 2011-08-31 8:27 PM (#95319 - in reply to #94989)
Subject: Re: tire problem


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+1 IMHO - LMAO2
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trailbarge
Posted 2011-09-01 11:19 AM (#95352 - in reply to #95265)
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pollolittle - 2011-08-31 10:41 AM
...

Yeah man, the kool-aid tastes great with a little watermelon and rum added to it. I would rather see you happy with the bike of your choice than disgruntled. ...

I would gather to venture there are disgruntled economic consumers from every company. ...
"Disgruntled"?!?! Did you just call HH a pig with laryngitis?
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donetracey
Posted 2011-09-01 11:57 AM (#95355 - in reply to #95352)
Subject: Re: tire problem


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trailbarge - 2011-09-01 9:19 AM pollolittle - 2011-08-31 10:41 AM ... Yeah man, the kool-aid tastes great with a little watermelon and rum added to it. I would rather see you happy with the bike of your choice than disgruntled. ... I would gather to venture there are disgruntled economic consumers from every company. ..."Disgruntled"?!?! Did you just call HH a pig with laryngitis?

ROTFLMAO*2

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NOEMTZ
Posted 2011-09-01 12:46 PM (#95360 - in reply to #94989)
Subject: Re: tire problem


Just out of curiosity....what are you guys paying for your Dunlop E3 180/60R 16 tires? Trying to find best deals.
Found local dealer offering them at $195 and change. That seem about right?
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Travelin Man
Posted 2011-09-01 12:50 PM (#95361 - in reply to #94989)
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Noe, check out the thread I started about the deal from Direct Line Parts on everything they carry including tires. I just ordered a set of E3s from them for $308 with FREE shipping.
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pollolittle
Posted 2011-09-01 1:38 PM (#95367 - in reply to #94989)
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That's about right within a few dollars, and then have the dealer install them for free or at least mount them for free.


Disgruntled - hmmmmmmm! Never thought of it that way! I might get more use out of the word if that were the case. May have to try it!

Oh yeah! Never had me a problem with an E3 and had a flat with the wife and I on it and drove back home. Just felt a little wiggly, but no damage, plugged it and rode on. That is the only tire I have been running for a while.
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