Cheap solutions and modifications
sgiacci
Posted 2011-06-28 1:28 PM (#89802)
Subject: Cheap solutions and modifications


Tourer

Posts: 401
Yes I'm cheap and I own a luxury motorcycle.

This thread is for the rest of you cheap creative people who don't like paying top dollar for low cost solutions. The criteria is finding a solution or modification that cost 50% or less than a similar item that is the popular solution, and getting something at a reduced price doesn't count. These solutions must be readily available at their normal cost.

Tell us what the item is, the cost, where can we get it, how it was installed, and pictures. Not every item needs to be a motorcycle accessory, but it must be motorcycle related. In particular Vision related.
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Cap'n Nemo
Posted 2011-06-28 1:37 PM (#89803 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: RE: Cheap solutions and modifications


Visionary

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New Bohemia, Va
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Trekwolf164
Posted 2011-06-28 1:43 PM (#89804 - in reply to #89803)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Iron Butt

Posts: 965
New York State
If you buy a full cover you can sleep on the bike and save the cost of a camp space or room
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Cap'n Nemo
Posted 2011-06-28 1:52 PM (#89806 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Visionary

Posts: 1359
New Bohemia, Va
I was able to sleep on my '84 Wing, however, I've not figured out that trick on the Vision, not with the tour pack on.
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sgiacci
Posted 2011-06-28 1:55 PM (#89808 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: RE: Cheap solutions and modifications


Tourer

Posts: 401
How about a cheap cover that is very quick and easy to use, and for you high mileage folks this is a must to save your seat while your bike sits out in the parking lot getting cooked.

You can spend $50 for a cycle shade or you can get the cycle sun blocker on eBay for $10. I've had mine for 3 years now, and it is still working fine.

Do a search for cyclesunblocker to find it.




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sgiacci
Posted 2011-06-28 1:57 PM (#89809 - in reply to #89803)
Subject: RE: Cheap solutions and modifications


Tourer

Posts: 401
Cap'n Nemo - 2011-06-28 1:37 PM

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Price?
How is it mounted?
Where can we get them?
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sgiacci
Posted 2011-06-28 1:59 PM (#89810 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: RE: Cheap solutions and modifications


Tourer

Posts: 401
Cheap music and mount.

I'm using a Sansa mp3 player I picked up for $40 with an 8gb micro SD card. I mounted it with... Velcro, and the wire was fed directly to the player. So when it rains I just rip it off the Velcro and toss it into the glove box (still playing). The seal forms around the cord and doesn't pinch it.

Been using it for a year now with no issues.






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Cap'n Nemo
Posted 2011-06-28 2:07 PM (#89811 - in reply to #89809)
Subject: RE: Cheap solutions and modifications


Visionary

Posts: 1359
New Bohemia, Va
Where: Local leather shop or Hot Leathers
How Much: About $14
How to install: Loosen cotrol black enough to slide the leather straps inbetween block and bar. Zip tie the loose ends to tighen straps.
How Long: approximately 20 minutes



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Trekwolf164
Posted 2011-06-28 4:19 PM (#89819 - in reply to #89806)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Iron Butt

Posts: 965
New York State
Cap'n Nemo - 2011-06-28 1:52 PM

I was able to sleep on my '84 Wing, however, I've not figured out that trick on the Vision, not with the tour pack on.


Pad dash, sit backwards ankles on rear passenger boards I usually use my jacket and a sweatshirt rolled.
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Cap'n Nemo
Posted 2011-06-28 5:10 PM (#89825 - in reply to #89819)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Visionary

Posts: 1359
New Bohemia, Va
Trekwolf164 - 2011-06-28 4:19 PM

Cap'n Nemo - 2011-06-28 1:52 PM

I was able to sleep on my '84 Wing, however, I've not figured out that trick on the Vision, not with the tour pack on.


Pad dash, sit backwards ankles on rear passenger boards I usually use my jacket and a sweatshirt rolled.


I tried something like that once, but it was difficult to get comfortable. I'll give another shot, thanks.
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radioteacher
Posted 2011-06-28 7:19 PM (#89828 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Visionary

Posts: 3006
San Antonio, TX
If you have a CB/intercom swap the controls with the AM FM radio. Then you can mute the audio without letting go of the clutch.

When you are done the radio controls are above the bars and the CB is below.

Cost free mod.
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sgiacci
Posted 2011-06-28 8:14 PM (#89834 - in reply to #89828)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Tourer

Posts: 401
radioteacher - 2011-06-28 7:19 PM

If you have a CB/intercom swap the controls with the AM FM radio. Then you can mute the audio without letting go of the clutch.

When you are done the radio controls are above the bars and the CB is below.

Cost free mod.


pictures?

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Trekwolf164
Posted 2011-06-28 8:39 PM (#89836 - in reply to #89825)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Iron Butt

Posts: 965
New York State
Cap'n Nemo - 2011-06-28 5:10 PM

Trekwolf164 - 2011-06-28 4:19 PM

Cap'n Nemo - 2011-06-28 1:52 PM

I was able to sleep on my '84 Wing, however, I've not figured out that trick on the Vision, not with the tour pack on.


Pad dash, sit backwards ankles on rear passenger boards I usually use my jacket and a sweatshirt rolled.


I tried something like that once, but it was difficult to get comfortable. I'll give another shot, thanks.


If the Vision had a proper center stand it would be better but you have to pad against the lean for the side stand

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sgiacci
Posted 2011-06-28 8:53 PM (#89838 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: RE: Cheap solutions and modifications


Tourer

Posts: 401
The magic of Velcro strikes again.

A simple mount for my garage door opener.



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Lone Ranger
Posted 2011-06-28 9:08 PM (#89840 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Tourer

Posts: 447
Cleveland, GA
I'm out of state and unfortunately away from my Vision for a couple of months, so I can't post pix, but here are a couple of mine:

Trunk mirror - Didn't want to spend $50 on a trunk mirror, so I bought a visor mirror at Wally World for about three bucks. Took off the clip and screwed it into the holes already there in the trunk.

Cupholder - bought a bicycle water bottle holder with an adjustable rubber strap. Bent the top part of the holder 90 degrees back, hung it on the brake fluid reservoir, and secured it with two zip ties. Works great!
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radioteacher
Posted 2011-06-29 4:21 PM (#89885 - in reply to #89834)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Visionary

Posts: 3006
San Antonio, TX
sgiacci - 2011-06-28 8:14 PM

radioteacher - 2011-06-28 7:19 PM

If you have a CB/intercom swap the controls with the AM FM radio. Then you can mute the audio without letting go of the clutch.

When you are done the radio controls are above the bars and the CB is below.

Cost free mod.


pictures?



There is a picture in the thread linked below about six posts from the top.

http://www.vision-riders.com/bb/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=5010
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sgiacci
Posted 2011-06-30 6:38 PM (#89961 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: RE: Cheap solutions and modifications


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Posts: 401
My solution to the air shock is a Topeak PocketShock for $23 off eBay, and I mounted in a really great spot in the trunk. And of course I used - VELCRO!!




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Trekwolf164
Posted 2011-06-30 8:36 PM (#89967 - in reply to #89961)
Subject: RE: Cheap solutions and modifications


Iron Butt

Posts: 965
New York State
sgiacci - 2011-06-30 6:38 PM

My solution to the air shock is a Topeak PocketShock for $23 off eBay, and I mounted in a really great spot in the trunk. And of course I used - VELCRO!!


Wow Gold Star I have the OEM pump and it is a room hog
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crna63
Posted 2011-07-01 11:07 PM (#90035 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 30
Paragould, AR
Just ordered a cyclesunblocker. Thanks for the tip
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Boots
Posted 2011-07-03 9:17 AM (#90102 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Tourer

Posts: 599
New Mexico
Already have three things listed above on my 'Christmas List', so wanted to bump this up for more ideas
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sgiacci
Posted 2011-07-06 11:42 PM (#90371 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: RE: Cheap solutions and modifications


Tourer

Posts: 401
Cheap arm rests, but it takes a little bit of work:

http://www.vision-riders.com/bb/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=7099

Total cost of parts was about $50.
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sgiacci
Posted 2012-01-22 7:58 PM (#105922 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: RE: Cheap solutions and modifications


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Cheaper touring bag many of you already know is the Saddlemen BR4100, but I have found a cheap hidden method to strap the bag down.

All you need is an 8"x1/4" steel rod, and route the provided straps under/behind the seat. Then just tuck them under the seat when not in use, or just pull them out and store.

One important thing - you need the trunk installed.

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a99miata
Posted 2012-01-23 5:41 AM (#105937 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Tourer

Posts: 423
northwest florida
go to your local vinyl graphics store. Ask if they have any scotch 3m reflective tape (same stuff they use on cop cars for lettering). I got a 14"x20" piece for $5. Cut it anyway you want and attach to the rear of the bike where ever you want.
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cw1115
Posted 2012-01-23 6:57 AM (#105944 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Visionary

Posts: 1290
Ruskin, Fl
Wow, Stephen. I have the same tour bag and hate it. I got it with the bike without the straps and was never happy with the different ways I tried to secure it. It wanted to lean forward and bothered me. I'll have to try that.
I have also tried the garage remote twice. Both times after the bike sits in the Florida sun the adhesive on the velcro would let go.
I guess I need better quality velcro.
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victoryvisiontour
Posted 2012-01-23 8:01 AM (#105950 - in reply to #105944)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Iron Butt

Posts: 763
Anderson, IN (48mi NE of downtown Indianapolis)
cw1115 - 2012-01-23 7:57 AM

I have also tried the garage remote twice. Both times after the bike sits in the Florida sun the adhesive on the velcro would let go.
I guess I need better quality velcro.


I have a few things velcroed in place. I use hot glue to adhere one side of the velcro to the bike. The sun will never get the bike hot enough to melt the glue. Things I want permanently attached, like spot mirrors, I hot glue them directly to the bike.

Quality hot glue works much better than you would think. Don't use the cheap stuff.
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sgiacci
Posted 2012-01-23 1:51 PM (#105977 - in reply to #105944)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Tourer

Posts: 401
cw1115 - 2012-01-23 6:57 AM

Wow, Stephen. I have the same tour bag and hate it. I got it with the bike without the straps and was never happy with the different ways I tried to secure it. It wanted to lean forward and bothered me. I'll have to try that.
I have also tried the garage remote twice. Both times after the bike sits in the Florida sun the adhesive on the velcro would let go.
I guess I need better quality velcro.


There is good and bad Velcro out there, and I found that the "Velcro" name brand stuff is the best. You also need to make sure the surface is clean - really clean. Some cleaners leave a residue - except for rubbing alcohol - so use rubbing alcohol on a gauze pad (from your first aid kit). Also make sure you don't do it in direct sun, and let the spot dry out completely.

If the bike is sitting out in the heat for that long you could also use my other cheap solution - bike cover. Here in Virginia we get the same super heat, but I make sure the bike is in the shade or I put the cover on it for those times it will be parked for a long time in the sun.


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sgiacci
Posted 2012-01-23 8:43 PM (#106001 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: RE: Cheap solutions and modifications


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Posts: 401
The integrated cup holder starts with:

www.TheLiquidCaddy.com - This cup holder is perfect since it uses several different mounts, and they screw on and off.

1" x 1/16" aluminum strap
1" x 1/8" steep strap
flat black paint

drill and tap

Use the aluminum strap to figure out how to bend it and drill the holes. You will be using either the left or right dashboard mounting screw and sliding it in between the upper and lower dash parts. You will need to remove the aluminum valance in order to separate the dashboard.

After you get the best fit with the aluminum strap, use it as your template to bend the steel strap.

Drill and tap the steep strap (for the cup holder only), paint or powder coat it, then install it.

You can optionally notch the upper dash part for a tighter fit like I did, but you don't have to.

You can also combine this with the cheap arm rests:

http://www.vision-riders.com/bb/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=7099&pos...

Then you can have 3 locations to mount the same cup holder. You can also get a couple of cup holders for the driver and passenger. It also screws on and off - fast - so you can keep in your bags until you need it.



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Mike
Posted 2012-01-23 9:55 PM (#106009 - in reply to #105922)
Subject: RE: Cheap solutions and modifications


Puddle Jumper

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East Haven, CT
sgiacci - 2012-01-22 8:58 PM

Cheaper touring bag many of you already know is the Saddlemen BR4100, but I have found a cheap hidden method to strap the bag down.

All you need is an 8"x1/4" steel rod, and route the provided straps under/behind the seat. Then just tuck them under the seat when not in use, or just pull them out and store.

One important thing - you need the trunk installed.



Elegant simple improvement!!!!
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loren2
Posted 2012-01-24 10:45 PM (#106086 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Cruiser

Posts: 166
Bullhead City, AZ
Bought a keyfob garagedoor opener at Lowes takes no space easy acccess and it leaves no marks on the VV. Had it 2 years in heat rain and even snow once its like a Timex
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sgiacci
Posted 2012-01-26 9:49 AM (#106170 - in reply to #106086)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


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Posts: 401
loren2 - 2012-01-24 10:45 PM

Bought a keyfob garagedoor opener at Lowes takes no space easy acccess and it leaves no marks on the VV. Had it 2 years in heat rain and even snow once its like a Timex


???, sounds like a good idea. Need more information.
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Rollin'
Posted 2012-01-26 9:58 AM (#106171 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: RE: Cheap solutions and modifications


Iron Butt

Posts: 825
, WI

 

 GPS mount = one piece of flat-stock and a bolt.

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loren2
Posted 2012-01-29 1:25 AM (#106318 - in reply to #106170)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Cruiser

Posts: 166
Bullhead City, AZ
Lowes sells a key fob that is also a garage door opener. It has three different buttons so it will open three differant doors it is the same sime as a lock remote for a car. It may be a Chamberlin brand as that is the brand as my openers are $30
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donetracey
Posted 2012-01-29 2:11 AM (#106320 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Visionary

Posts: 2118
Pitt Meadows, BC Canada
SMART CAR --- my wife bought one to take care of ALL of the issues discussed here. And then some ....

Me? I'd be happy with a back pack - but make do with the ENORMOUS stock configuration of my VV ! You folks ever read "David & Suzanne's Big Fricken' Canadian Motorcycle Adventure" ??? Those guys (and some of you) obviously need a MOTORHOME - not a MOTORCYCLE. Don't upscale your bike to fit your needs - downscale your needs to fit your bike !!!

I know - "Shut up... "

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cchristo
Posted 2012-01-29 8:42 AM (#106326 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: RE: Cheap solutions and modifications


Tourer

Posts: 337
san antonio, tx
Homemade Stereo Bluetooth Dongle costs about $30 - $40 compared to $200 - $250 for the Vic version

http://www.vision-riders.com/bb/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=10099&po...







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sgiacci
Posted 2012-01-30 9:24 PM (#106441 - in reply to #106320)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Tourer

Posts: 401
donetracey - 2012-01-29 2:11 AM

SMART CAR --- my wife bought one to take care of ALL of the issues discussed here. And then some ....

Me? I'd be happy with a back pack - but make do with the ENORMOUS stock configuration of my VV ! You folks ever read "David & Suzanne's Big Fricken' Canadian Motorcycle Adventure" ??? Those guys (and some of you) obviously need a MOTORHOME - not a MOTORCYCLE. Don't upscale your bike to fit your needs - downscale your needs to fit your bike !!!

I know - "Shut up... "



Huh, you lost me.
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willtill
Posted 2012-01-31 4:25 AM (#106455 - in reply to #106441)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Visionary

Posts: 1365
Central Maryland
sgiacci - 2012-01-30 10:24 PM

donetracey - 2012-01-29 2:11 AM

SMART CAR --- my wife bought one to take care of ALL of the issues discussed here. And then some ....

Me? I'd be happy with a back pack - but make do with the ENORMOUS stock configuration of my VV ! You folks ever read "David & Suzanne's Big Fricken' Canadian Motorcycle Adventure" ??? Those guys (and some of you) obviously need a MOTORHOME - not a MOTORCYCLE. Don't upscale your bike to fit your needs - downscale your needs to fit your bike !!!

I know - "Shut up... "



Huh, you lost me.


He sounds like a "minimalist"
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Blister
Posted 2012-02-04 10:36 AM (#106852 - in reply to #89961)
Subject: RE: Cheap solutions and modifications


Cruiser

Posts: 100
I have to thank Sqiacci for the bike pump idea! (Topeak pocket shock)I too like to save money when I can ....so I can buy other stuff! lol but the pump works great and I bought mine for $35.00, 25.00 cheaper than the Victory pump if I am not mistaken! Thanx again Blister
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Rollin'
Posted 2012-02-04 10:58 AM (#106854 - in reply to #106455)
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Iron Butt

Posts: 825
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willtill - 2012-01-31 4:25 AM sgiacci - 2012-01-30 10:24 PM donetracey - 2012-01-29 2:11 AM SMART CAR --- my wife bought one to take care of ALL of the issues discussed here. And then some .... Me? I'd be happy with a back pack - but make do with the ENORMOUS stock configuration of my VV ! You folks ever read "David & Suzanne's Big Fricken' Canadian Motorcycle Adventure" ??? Those guys (and some of you) obviously need a MOTORHOME - not a MOTORCYCLE. Don't upscale your bike to fit your needs - downscale your needs to fit your bike !!! I know - "Shut up... " Huh, you lost me. He sounds like a "minimalist"

 

He has a Vision Tour. That is a motorhome!

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sgiacci
Posted 2012-02-06 1:53 PM (#107031 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: RE: Cheap solutions and modifications


Tourer

Posts: 401
If you have an '08 Vision you will find that you do not the ability to mount a RAM ball in the mirror socket, and that leaves you with a bar clamp. Sad thing is that the odd shape of the bars make the bar clamp a pain in the arse. I stumbled on a real simple solution.

Get yourself this Ram mount base (RAM-B-238U) for about $7:

http://www.ram-mount.com/CatalogResults/PartDetails/tabid/63/partid...

Remove the 2 screws on the clutch reservoir, get 2 longer screws and mount the base using those 2 mounting points. I find it real lucky that those holes line up almost dead on. Then use what ever arm or mount you want, I happen to have a molded mount for my Droid X.


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sgiacci
Posted 2012-02-06 2:09 PM (#107034 - in reply to #106326)
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cchristo - 2012-01-29 8:42 AM

Homemade Stereo Bluetooth Dongle costs about $30 - $40 compared to $200 - $250 for the Vic version

http://www.vision-riders.com/bb/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=10099&po...





Bluetooth from your phone to your radio.


This is not a cheap solution, but a very reasonable one. Get an iPod/iPhone plug ($50 or $99 depending on model year) and a fipo bluetooth adapter ($30-$45). And just plug them in. You can't control the phone from the radio, but you can pipe music to the radio. The sound is ok, and can be prone to interferance.

I spent $70 for my set up.



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Turk
Posted 2012-02-07 5:51 AM (#107077 - in reply to #106326)
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Iron Butt

Posts: 612
cchristo - 2012-01-29 8:42 AM

Homemade Stereo Bluetooth Dongle costs about $30 - $40 compared to $200 - $250 for the Vic version

http://www.vision-riders.com/bb/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=10099&po...





This is not for those who have the accessory cable (which drives a CB, CD, and / or XM radio ) in that spare port at the back of the radio.



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cchristo
Posted 2012-02-07 6:27 AM (#107078 - in reply to #107077)
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Tourer

Posts: 337
san antonio, tx
Turk - 2012-02-07 5:51 AM

cchristo - 2012-01-29 8:42 AM

Homemade Stereo Bluetooth Dongle costs about $30 - $40 compared to $200 - $250 for the Vic version

http://www.vision-riders.com/bb/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=10099&po...





This is not for those who have the accessory cable (which drives a CB, CD, and / or XM radio ) in that spare port at the back of the radio.



Actually, it can be done if you have the CD or XM. If you already have these items installed, you already have the plug.
You just need to add the wiring that is detailed in the article I wrote. It would work if you have the CB installed too, but doesn't make sense to do, since you must still plug your headset in to communicate over the CB.
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cchristo
Posted 2012-02-07 6:36 AM (#107080 - in reply to #107034)
Subject: RE: Cheap solutions and modifications


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Posts: 337
san antonio, tx
sgiacci - 2012-02-06 2:09 PM

cchristo - 2012-01-29 8:42 AM

Homemade Stereo Bluetooth Dongle costs about $30 - $40 compared to $200 - $250 for the Vic version

http://www.vision-riders.com/bb/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=10099&po...





Bluetooth from your phone to your radio.


This is not a cheap solution, but a very reasonable one. Get an iPod/iPhone plug ($50 or $99 depending on model year) and a fipo bluetooth adapter ($30-$45). And just plug them in. You can't control the phone from the radio, but you can pipe music to the radio. The sound is ok, and can be prone to interferance.

I spent $70 for my set up.



This does not serve the same function as the bluetooth dongle (factory or homemade version). The dongle allows you to listen to audio from any source playing through your stereo through your bluetooth enabled headset or earbuds.

To achieve the same results as doing this fipo bluetooth mod, and for much less money (this is "cheap solutions and modifications" post after all) you can just plug your iphone, mp3 player, ipod, directly in to the factory supplied 1/8" audio cable and set your stereo to "AUX". It will also eliminate the interference you mentioned as well.
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Turk
Posted 2012-02-07 8:34 AM (#107083 - in reply to #107078)
Subject: RE: Cheap solutions and modifications


Iron Butt

Posts: 612
cchristo - 2012-02-07 6:27 AM

Turk - 2012-02-07 5:51 AM

cchristo - 2012-01-29 8:42 AM

Homemade Stereo Bluetooth Dongle costs about $30 - $40 compared to $200 - $250 for the Vic version

http://www.vision-riders.com/bb/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=10099&po...





This is not for those who have the accessory cable (which drives a CB, CD, and / or XM radio ) in that spare port at the back of the radio.



Actually, it can be done if you have the CD or XM. If you already have these items installed, you already have the plug.
You just need to add the wiring that is detailed in the article I wrote. It would work if you have the CB installed too, but doesn't make sense to do, since you must still plug your headset in to communicate over the CB.


So, I would merely open up the accessory cable, locate wires 4,5, and 11, and simply 'tap' them ?

Also, since this accessory cable is for devices that "input" into the existing radio, I can see it working for anything connected to it, such as my XM radio, but how does that help me listen to the built in radio or an mp3 player over bluetooth? Those devices aren't connected via the accessory connector.
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cchristo
Posted 2012-02-07 10:19 AM (#107090 - in reply to #107083)
Subject: RE: Cheap solutions and modifications


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Posts: 337
san antonio, tx
Turk - 2012-02-07 8:34 AM

cchristo - 2012-02-07 6:27 AM

Turk - 2012-02-07 5:51 AM

cchristo - 2012-01-29 8:42 AM

Homemade Stereo Bluetooth Dongle costs about $30 - $40 compared to $200 - $250 for the Vic version

http://www.vision-riders.com/bb/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=10099&po...





This is not for those who have the accessory cable (which drives a CB, CD, and / or XM radio ) in that spare port at the back of the radio.



Actually, it can be done if you have the CD or XM. If you already have these items installed, you already have the plug.
You just need to add the wiring that is detailed in the article I wrote. It would work if you have the CB installed too, but doesn't make sense to do, since you must still plug your headset in to communicate over the CB.


So, I would merely open up the accessory cable, locate wires 4,5, and 11, and simply 'tap' them ?

Also, since this accessory cable is for devices that "input" into the existing radio, I can see it working for anything connected to it, such as my XM radio, but how does that help me listen to the built in radio or an mp3 player over bluetooth? Those devices aren't connected via the accessory connector.


Yes, you would simply tap into the correct pinholes.

I think we are confusing two separate items. The dongle does not facilitate the addition of any external inputs such as XM or CD. It only takes what would be sent to the speakers by the stereo and broadcasts it, via bluetooth, to a bluetooth receiver, generally something like a Cardo or Senna headset, or a set of bluetooth enabled earbuds.

The 1/8" stereo input cord that comes with the bike, or the upgraded Ipod cable allows you to play an external device such as an ipod, cassette walkman, MP3 player, etc. through your stereo. It has nothing to do with bluetooth. You could, if you wanted, plug a bluetooth reciever into the 1/8" AUX cord and stream music to your stereo from your bluetooth enabled device. I don't know why you would though.
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victoryvisiontour
Posted 2012-02-07 11:13 AM (#107094 - in reply to #107031)
Subject: RE: Cheap solutions and modifications


Iron Butt

Posts: 763
Anderson, IN (48mi NE of downtown Indianapolis)
sgiacci - 2012-02-06 2:53 PM

If you have an '08 Vision you will find that you do not the ability to mount a RAM ball in the mirror socket, and that leaves you with a bar clamp. Sad thing is that the odd shape of the bars make the bar clamp a pain in the arse. I stumbled on a real simple solution.

Get yourself this Ram mount base (RAM-B-238U) for about $7:

http://www.ram-mount.com/CatalogResults/PartDetails/tabid/63/partid...

Remove the 2 screws on the clutch reservoir, get 2 longer screws and mount the base using those 2 mounting points. I find it real lucky that those holes line up almost dead on. Then use what ever arm or mount you want, I happen to have a molded mount for my Droid X.


sgiacci,
I have been using a different method to mount my phone/GPS that I am not 100% satisfied with. I have been looking at the RAM mounts, but have not found anything I was pleased with due to the handlebar issue you mention. I was going to drill & tap the brake reservoir where a mirror would normally be mounted on most motorcycles then thread in a RAM ball. Your route will save me the drilling and tapping. Or I can go ahead and drill & tap and mount more stuff. Thanks for posting. You saved me some time searching for the right RAM components.
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victoryvisiontour
Posted 2012-02-07 11:16 AM (#107095 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: RE: Cheap solutions and modifications


Iron Butt

Posts: 763
Anderson, IN (48mi NE of downtown Indianapolis)
I suppose this qualifies for this thread.
USB port for Victory Vision
http://www.vision-riders.com/bb/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=10737&po...

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sgiacci
Posted 2012-02-07 12:19 PM (#107103 - in reply to #107080)
Subject: RE: Cheap solutions and modifications


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Posts: 401
cchristo - 2012-02-07 6:36 AM

sgiacci - 2012-02-06 2:09 PM

cchristo - 2012-01-29 8:42 AM

Homemade Stereo Bluetooth Dongle costs about $30 - $40 compared to $200 - $250 for the Vic version

http://www.vision-riders.com/bb/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=10099&po...





Bluetooth from your phone to your radio.


This is not a cheap solution, but a very reasonable one. Get an iPod/iPhone plug ($50 or $99 depending on model year) and a fipo bluetooth adapter ($30-$45). And just plug them in. You can't control the phone from the radio, but you can pipe music to the radio. The sound is ok, and can be prone to interferance.

I spent $70 for my set up.



This does not serve the same function as the bluetooth dongle (factory or homemade version). The dongle allows you to listen to audio from any source playing through your stereo through your bluetooth enabled headset or earbuds.

To achieve the same results as doing this fipo bluetooth mod, and for much less money (this is "cheap solutions and modifications" post after all) you can just plug your iphone, mp3 player, ipod, directly in to the factory supplied 1/8" audio cable and set your stereo to "AUX". It will also eliminate the interference you mentioned as well.


True, that is why I called it "Bluetooth from your phone to your radio" - not "radio to your Bluetooth".

What you missed was us non-iPod/iPhone owners who have Android phones for our music, GPS, and so on. Since there isn't an adaptor for us, the Bluetooth allows us to run the music into the Vision Radio while allowing us to keep the phone charged through the USB. Yes I can use the 1/8" plug, but some mounts make it difficult to use both plugs at the same time, and the bigger phones are really cramped in the glove box with both plugs too.

One other really good use for you setup is a low level output for people who want to add a high power amplifier and speakers.
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Turk
Posted 2012-02-07 12:22 PM (#107105 - in reply to #107090)
Subject: RE: Cheap solutions and modifications


Iron Butt

Posts: 612
I guess what is confusing me about your setup is that you "appear" to be tapping into the input side of things via the accessory connector instead of tapping the existing output side running to the speakers.

cchristo - 2012-02-07 10:19 AM

Turk - 2012-02-07 8:34 AM

cchristo - 2012-02-07 6:27 AM

Turk - 2012-02-07 5:51 AM

cchristo - 2012-01-29 8:42 AM

Homemade Stereo Bluetooth Dongle costs about $30 - $40 compared to $200 - $250 for the Vic version

http://www.vision-riders.com/bb/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=10099&po...





This is not for those who have the accessory cable (which drives a CB, CD, and / or XM radio ) in that spare port at the back of the radio.



Actually, it can be done if you have the CD or XM. If you already have these items installed, you already have the plug.
You just need to add the wiring that is detailed in the article I wrote. It would work if you have the CB installed too, but doesn't make sense to do, since you must still plug your headset in to communicate over the CB.


So, I would merely open up the accessory cable, locate wires 4,5, and 11, and simply 'tap' them ?

Also, since this accessory cable is for devices that "input" into the existing radio, I can see it working for anything connected to it, such as my XM radio, but how does that help me listen to the built in radio or an mp3 player over bluetooth? Those devices aren't connected via the accessory connector.


Yes, you would simply tap into the correct pinholes.

I think we are confusing two separate items. The dongle does not facilitate the addition of any external inputs such as XM or CD. It only takes what would be sent to the speakers by the stereo and broadcasts it, via bluetooth, to a bluetooth receiver, generally something like a Cardo or Senna headset, or a set of bluetooth enabled earbuds.

The 1/8" stereo input cord that comes with the bike, or the upgraded Ipod cable allows you to play an external device such as an ipod, cassette walkman, MP3 player, etc. through your stereo. It has nothing to do with bluetooth. You could, if you wanted, plug a bluetooth reciever into the 1/8" AUX cord and stream music to your stereo from your bluetooth enabled device. I don't know why you would though.
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sgiacci
Posted 2012-02-07 12:33 PM (#107106 - in reply to #107094)
Subject: RE: Cheap solutions and modifications


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Posts: 401
victoryvisiontour - 2012-02-07 11:13 AM

sgiacci - 2012-02-06 2:53 PM

If you have an '08 Vision you will find that you do not the ability to mount a RAM ball in the mirror socket, and that leaves you with a bar clamp. Sad thing is that the odd shape of the bars make the bar clamp a pain in the arse. I stumbled on a real simple solution.

Get yourself this Ram mount base (RAM-B-238U) for about $7:

http://www.ram-mount.com/CatalogResults/PartDetails/tabid/63/partid...

Remove the 2 screws on the clutch reservoir, get 2 longer screws and mount the base using those 2 mounting points. I find it real lucky that those holes line up almost dead on. Then use what ever arm or mount you want, I happen to have a molded mount for my Droid X.


sgiacci,
I have been using a different method to mount my phone/GPS that I am not 100% satisfied with. I have been looking at the RAM mounts, but have not found anything I was pleased with due to the handlebar issue you mention. I was going to drill & tap the brake reservoir where a mirror would normally be mounted on most motorcycles then thread in a RAM ball. Your route will save me the drilling and tapping. Or I can go ahead and drill & tap and mount more stuff. Thanks for posting. You saved me some time searching for the right RAM components.


When you break through the paint on the pot metal and it will likely start to flake off and corrode. Hence I didn't do it.


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sgiacci
Posted 2012-02-07 12:36 PM (#107108 - in reply to #107095)
Subject: RE: Cheap solutions and modifications


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Posts: 401
victoryvisiontour - 2012-02-07 11:16 AM

I suppose this qualifies for this thread.
USB port for Victory Vision
http://www.vision-riders.com/bb/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=10737&po...



That is going to be my next mod. Big thumbs up.


Edited by sgiacci 2012-02-07 12:36 PM
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Nozzledog
Posted 2012-03-05 1:36 PM (#109280 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: RE: Cheap solutions and modifications


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Posts: 1229
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
I took an old black plastic wastebasket, cut it up, and made doors for the little compartments inside my saddlebags.



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varyder
Posted 2012-03-05 1:58 PM (#109283 - in reply to #109280)
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Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
If I thought about doing this once, I've thought about it a million times. Thanks for sharing.  I've always wondered why they didn't come wiht the little doors already, especially since they have the slots like they should.
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Arkainzeye
Posted 2012-03-05 2:04 PM (#109284 - in reply to #89802)
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Posts: 3773
Pittsburgh, PA
on my left side door i cant use that.. its where the ABS stuff all hides.. =(
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JS5Owner
Posted 2012-03-05 4:29 PM (#109298 - in reply to #109280)
Subject: RE: Cheap solutions and modifications


Cruiser

Posts: 231
Desert Hot Springs (Palm Springs area), CA

Nozzledog - 2012-03-05 1:36 PM I took an old black plastic wastebasket, cut it up, and made doors for the little compartments inside my saddlebags.

Nice!  I've thought about it too BUT you did it...  Is the compression fit solid?

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Nozzledog
Posted 2012-03-05 4:49 PM (#109299 - in reply to #89802)
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Posts: 1229
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
One side stayed closed fine, the other popped open, so I put a small piece of velcro above the door that keeps it from moving.
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Mr Sug
Posted 2012-03-05 5:21 PM (#109300 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


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Posts: 117
Kansas City, MO
atta boy - thats thinking
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sgiacci
Posted 2012-04-22 7:43 PM (#112736 - in reply to #89802)
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ttt
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cook06vegas
Posted 2012-04-24 1:43 PM (#112839 - in reply to #89802)
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Posts: 373
Lansing, MI

This thread kicks azz!
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20 10 Vision
Posted 2012-04-24 1:58 PM (#112844 - in reply to #89802)
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One of my all time favorite threads
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BigfootNRMC
Posted 2012-05-19 11:54 AM (#114610 - in reply to #107094)
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Posts: 50
Thanks a bunch for sharing your ideas
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varyder
Posted 2012-05-19 4:15 PM (#114614 - in reply to #89802)
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Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
I had made some flag mounts some time ago but they just was a pain.  I final did what others have done.  Taking the same threaded rods that I used for my mounts, I went and got some fender washers and rubber washers, 1/4in thick 7/8 half-moon woodruff keys to fill in the space on the rack.  The picture says the rest.



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Rollin'
Posted 2012-05-19 4:32 PM (#114618 - in reply to #89802)
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Iron Butt

Posts: 825
, WI

 

$80..........

 

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willtill
Posted 2012-05-19 5:34 PM (#114626 - in reply to #89802)
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Posts: 1365
Central Maryland
What tire is that? Size and make?
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Rollin'
Posted 2012-05-19 7:44 PM (#114637 - in reply to #114626)
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Iron Butt

Posts: 825
, WI

willtill - 2012-05-19 5:34 PM What tire is that? Size and make?

Bridgestone Potenza Grid - 195/55R16.

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Firejedi
Posted 2012-05-20 8:18 PM (#114715 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


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Posts: 53
Raleigh, NC
You darksiders just can't help yourselves.
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20 10 Vision
Posted 2012-05-21 12:37 PM (#114767 - in reply to #89802)
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Rollin - do you have that tire on mainly due to your upcoming AK to FL ride, or do you plan to run that from now on?
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sgiacci
Posted 2012-06-12 12:13 PM (#116376 - in reply to #89802)
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Cheap multi-functional trunk organizer. I modified my gun holster / fanny pack by adding snaps to it and to the trunk. Now I can use it to organize the trunk, and carry my weapon (aligns better with most state laws and can make riding a bit more comfortable). If I want to use the fanny pack / holster all I have to do is unsnap it from the trunk and snap it onto the belt.



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Posted 2012-06-12 12:26 PM (#116377 - in reply to #89802)
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Cheap glove rack. I use several different types of gloves depending on conditions (base requirements) when I ride, and they tend to get stuck to each other all the time (Velcro). So I used that annoyance to make something helpful. I mounted a large piece of Velcro in the trunk, and now I can stick my gloves, and leg straps to it. Now I don't have to untangle my gloves or straps every time I want to use them, and I don't have to dig for them.



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SYNSTR
Posted 2012-06-12 2:37 PM (#116401 - in reply to #89802)
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Iron Butt

Posts: 785
Mt. Vernon, WASH.
A zippered nylon I.D. badge holder /lanyard ( cruise the big office supply stores) makes a great, obvious place to put your registration/insurance paperwork. They are 99+% waterproof and mine is looped through itself around the right side door arm so it stays put, then tucked into the upper front small compartment and wedged with a dust rag. It won't blow away, it's easy to access if Mr. Badge wants to see it.
It's pretty cheap too. Don't forget to sign your registration form when you renew your license, in Washington state, not doing that is a $104.00 eye opener.
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sgiacci
Posted 2012-07-23 7:22 PM (#120054 - in reply to #89802)
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My grips are getting worn out and instead of replacing the grips for $200 try a set of disposable grip covers...

I can't take the credit since a member on the VMC suggested I try it, he hasn't done it but here is his idea:

Use 2" shrink tubing.

I used 2" "non-adhesive" neoprene tubing, and cut it to length. It took a long time to get it snug, and I would recommend trying 1 1/2" tubing, but I don't know if it will slip over the grips. Considering I payed $3 for a 12" long piece, you could get both sizes for cheap and give each a try. I use a small butane torch to heat it, and you need to be very careful not to hold it in one spot or you will burn the grips or tubing.

When it wears out I will just cut it off and put a new piece on.




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Posted 2012-07-23 8:29 PM (#120063 - in reply to #89802)
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I first found a picture on this site of the baffles cut out. There is a plate that exhaust hits first before running down tubes and turns again. before exitting.

I started smaller at 1/2 in ended up with 5/8th hole. I did this first by welding a 1/2rod to the end of a 1/2 shank 5/8 drill total length about 28 inches which is plently to clear gatlin tips and bike parts. To protect the tips and center the hole inside the muffler on the plate I used a piece of pipe. the drill fit just right inside it. I already had a fuel controller on the bike but did not touch it.

I feel the bike had more up top after the hole was drilled. I did like the tone its still quite but barks a little when you ramp it up. The plate that gets drilled is on the left side of the picture.

Tools borrowed, 15minutes of time vs 400-600$ for exhaust system




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Posted 2012-07-24 5:58 PM (#120126 - in reply to #89802)
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Posts: 4278
I tuck a old bike license plate ours are aluminum so it was easy to bend and glue to the button half of the back of the front fender. It hangs down about 3 1/2" and now to more mud cow crap and dirt on the lower aluminum trim



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Posted 2012-09-28 10:50 AM (#124401 - in reply to #120054)
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Posts: 401
sgiacci - 2012-07-23 7:22 PM

My grips are getting worn out and instead of replacing the grips for $200 try a set of disposable grip covers...

I can't take the credit since a member on the VMC suggested I try it, he hasn't done it but here is his idea:

Use 2" shrink tubing.

I used 2" "non-adhesive" neoprene tubing, and cut it to length. It took a long time to get it snug, and I would recommend trying 1 1/2" tubing, but I don't know if it will slip over the grips. Considering I payed $3 for a 12" long piece, you could get both sizes for cheap and give each a try. I use a small butane torch to heat it, and you need to be very careful not to hold it in one spot or you will burn the grips or tubing.

When it wears out I will just cut it off and put a new piece on.


Follow up:

I finally had a cold enough morning to really try the heated grips, and they worked just as good as before. So the tubing doesn't affect the heat at all.
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sgiacci
Posted 2012-10-12 10:37 PM (#125152 - in reply to #89802)
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Posts: 401
One cheap ass muffler modification that is super simple to do - no welding.

Get a 5/8" x 12" drill bit for $20, take the tip off and cut the center out of it. Remember to retain the outer trim ring so you can reattach it. Then drill 6-8 holes in a pattern around the center exhaust while the pipe is still on the bike. MAKE SURE YOU DO IT PARALLEL WITH THE PIPE, if you don't, you will drill through the side of the pipe. Put the tip back on and your done.

Your Vision will no longer sound like a sewing machine, and it will still be fairly quiet so you can enjoy the tunes and keep the neighbors happy.

Most of the back pressure is retained so you don't need to remap the ECM. I have been running it like this for over 2 years now, and it works great.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=bkteU2MrTl4


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jjp53
Posted 2012-10-13 8:48 AM (#125166 - in reply to #89802)
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Gilroy, Ca
That sounds pretty good Sgiacci and you say that it doesn't have to be remapped
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willtill
Posted 2012-10-13 9:32 AM (#125167 - in reply to #125152)
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Posts: 1365
Central Maryland
sgiacci - 2012-10-12 11:37 PM

One cheap ass muffler modification that is super simple to do - no welding.

Get a 5/8" x 12" drill bit for $20, take the tip off and cut the center out of it. Remember to retain the outer trim ring so you can reattach it. Then drill 6-8 holes in a pattern around the center exhaust while the pipe is still on the bike. MAKE SURE YOU DO IT PARALLEL WITH THE PIPE, if you don't, you will drill through the side of the pipe. Put the tip back on and your done.

Your Vision will no longer sound like a sewing machine, and it will still be fairly quiet so you can enjoy the tunes and keep the neighbors happy.

Most of the back pressure is retained so you don't need to remap the ECM. I have been running it like this for over 2 years now, and it works great.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=bkteU2MrTl4


sgiacci , are you drilling through just one plate; or is there another one behind it that you are drilling holes into, as well?
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sgiacci
Posted 2012-10-14 8:10 PM (#125218 - in reply to #89802)
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No remapping needed since much of the back pressure is retained. The bike rarely backfires.

The tip plate doesn't count since I cut it off, and I believe I went through both plates.

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johnnyvision
Posted 2012-10-15 5:55 PM (#125256 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


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stock baffles on a stock vision muffler



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willtill
Posted 2012-10-15 6:17 PM (#125260 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Visionary

Posts: 1365
Central Maryland
For the life of me, I cannot find a 5/8" x 12" drill bit around here..... I had previously did the Thrush Mod but the old lady didn't like it... so I put it back together as stock. Still want a little rumble though...so I'm interested in doing this cheap mod.


Where in the hell are 12" drill bits (in 5/8) ....?

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sgiacci
Posted 2012-10-17 10:22 AM (#125337 - in reply to #125260)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Tourer

Posts: 401
willtill - 2012-10-15 6:17 PM

For the life of me, I cannot find a 5/8" x 12" drill bit around here..... I had previously did the Thrush Mod but the old lady didn't like it... so I put it back together as stock. Still want a little rumble though...so I'm interested in doing this cheap mod.


Where in the hell are 12" drill bits (in 5/8) ....?


Your right, I'm having a hard time finding one on the internet too. I will remeasure the bit make sure it isn't a 1/2".

I cna't remember if got mine at Home Depot or Lowes, but it is used for running wire, and is designed to go through wood and light metal (nails didn't slow it down much).
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ByteN2it
Posted 2012-10-17 2:21 PM (#125349 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Tourer

Posts: 482
Beer Collins, Colorado (there is no fort)
You need a 5/8" Hole Saw bit & extension-there are other cheaper brands, you could probably put something together at Harbor Freight-just don't plan on using it more than once.
http://www.milwaukeetool.com/accessories/drilling-accessories/hole-...
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ByteN2it
Posted 2012-10-17 2:43 PM (#125350 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Tourer

Posts: 482
Beer Collins, Colorado (there is no fort)
You need a 5/8" Hole Saw bit & extension-there are other cheaper brands, you could probably put something together at Harbor Freight-just don't plan on using it more than once.
http://www.milwaukeetool.com/accessories/drilling-accessories/hole-...
http://www.milwaukeetool.com/accessories/drilling-accessories/exten...
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sgiacci
Posted 2012-10-18 8:03 AM (#125386 - in reply to #125350)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Tourer

Posts: 401
ByteN2it - 2012-10-17 2:43 PM

You need a 5/8" Hole Saw bit & extension-there are other cheaper brands, you could probably put something together at Harbor Freight-just don't plan on using it more than once.
http://www.milwaukeetool.com/accessories/drilling-accessories/hole-...
http://www.milwaukeetool.com/accessories/drilling-accessories/exten...


Warning!!! Don't do that. Extensions and hole saws will wobble, and they will shred the plates inside. Also if you hit one of the tubes they will not easily self guide into them.

Nice try though...

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ByteN2it
Posted 2012-10-18 10:45 AM (#125393 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Tourer

Posts: 482
Beer Collins, Colorado (there is no fort)
This is what I had heard people used for drilling out bike exhausts-I don't have any personal experience doing this mod and certianley don't want to give anyone a bum steer- Thank you for the correction/warning.
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Monkeyman
Posted 2012-10-19 12:49 AM (#125406 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Iron Butt

Posts: 1066
Peru, IN
If you're going to drill out then entire center of the baffles (that have "generic" style baffles to begin with), a hole saw is exactly what you need. I can see having issues with a hole saw in this mod. That's a weird looking baffle.
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sgiacci
Posted 2012-10-23 1:22 PM (#125583 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: RE: Cheap solutions and modifications


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Posts: 401
Sticky / locked throttle solution.

Have you ever had the throttle get stuck open when it gets hot out or if you use the heated grips?

Well we talked about this about 2 years ago.

The cheap simple solution is:

Take the bar weight off, get some sand paper, and sand a little of the rubber grip end down so you have a slightly larger space between the bar weight and the grip. Then smooth up the edge of the grip (NOT the grip) with rubber dressing (Armorall or Meguires). Put the the weight back on and your done.

Did mine 2 years ago and it hasn't gotten stuck since then.
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Nozzledog
Posted 2012-10-29 5:51 PM (#125879 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: RE: Cheap solutions and modifications


Visionary

Posts: 1229
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
I have just added to the Tech Reference instructions for

ADDING FRONT TURN SIGNAL LEDs and LOAD EQUALIZERS
http://www.vision-riders.com/bb/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=12778&po...

and

FRONT TURN SIGNAL INNER BULB MOD.
http://www.vision-riders.com/bb/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=12777&po...

The inner bulb mod is only a few bucks and makes the front a lot more noticeable when turning.
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Udnudn1968
Posted 2012-10-29 6:02 PM (#125880 - in reply to #125879)
Subject: RE: Cheap solutions and modifications


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 33
Great write ups Nozzledog!
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Tims_11Vision
Posted 2012-11-01 12:43 AM (#126032 - in reply to #125260)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Cruiser

Posts: 143
Lexington Park, MD
willtill - 2012-10-15 7:17 PM

For the life of me, I cannot find a 5/8" x 12" drill bit around here..... I had previously did the Thrush Mod but the old lady didn't like it... so I put it back together as stock. Still want a little rumble though...so I'm interested in doing this cheap mod.


Just did it today and wound up using a regular 1/2" bit with chrome tips removed for easier access putting 7 holes in each after cutting off the angled pipe tip.. My measurement process when out the window, not sure how but they look pretty semetrical. Drilled a pilot then 1/2 staying closer to the center of the pipe. Good low end rumble, got a nice crack to it when you blip it or get on it but while remaining calm on the throttle it sounds great. I am not sure if I actually want to try to drill through the 2nd ring or not with a 12" bit. Will see how I like this. My neighbor heard me leave and thought I tood my TC out with Level 1's on it. The differnence was, my TC I try to creep out and back in the court and neighbor hood (I work 3rd shift) without making a ton of noise and when I was on the VV tonight I was hittin it as soon as I cleared the drive so that was a good test for me. With cruise on, nice solid rumble. Thanks again Steve for the tip and most importantly the pics!!!!

Tim

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sgiacci
Posted 2013-02-10 7:12 PM (#130689 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


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Posts: 401
Bump
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cook06vegas
Posted 2013-02-10 7:41 PM (#130690 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: RE: Cheap solutions and modifications


Tourer

Posts: 373
Lansing, MI

Have a Vic with corrosion under the clear coat on the forks / trees? Want to make it look good again. Here's my cheap way out:

Paint stripper, wire wheel on a drill and then 80 grit emery cloth followed up by sanding the parts in the same pattern / grain as the factory "brush" marks...

Maybe recoat with clear paint...




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sgiacci
Posted 2013-05-20 2:19 PM (#139250 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


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Posts: 401
You guys are slowing up on me, don't we have any more new cheap solutions out there?
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Nozzledog
Posted 2013-05-20 5:13 PM (#139259 - in reply to #139250)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Visionary

Posts: 1229
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
sgiacci - 2013-05-20 12:19 PM

You guys are slowing up on me, don't we have any more new cheap solutions out there?


I made my own 1/4 turn throttle ring out of 2 1/4" PVC pipe. Works perfectly. Hope that feeds your need.
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sgiacci
Posted 2013-05-21 12:17 PM (#139307 - in reply to #139259)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Tourer

Posts: 401
Nozzledog - 2013-05-20 5:13 PM

sgiacci - 2013-05-20 12:19 PM

You guys are slowing up on me, don't we have any more new cheap solutions out there?


I made my own 1/4 turn throttle ring out of 2 1/4" PVC pipe. Works perfectly. Hope that feeds your need.


Hmm, you have my attention, any pictures?
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Nozzledog
Posted 2013-05-21 3:53 PM (#139317 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: RE: Cheap solutions and modifications


Visionary

Posts: 1229
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Hacksaw & sander.



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Nozzledog
Posted 2013-05-21 5:41 PM (#139327 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Visionary

Posts: 1229
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
My mistake, it is not 2 1/4" PVC. Not sure where I got that number.. 1.38" I.D. , 1.65" O.D.
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sgiacci
Posted 2013-09-12 12:06 PM (#144409 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


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fall bump
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a99miata
Posted 2013-09-13 9:45 AM (#144448 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Tourer

Posts: 423
northwest florida
Pad Dash..i use to sleep on my bike but my snoring was distracting to the other drivers at the traffic light.
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sgiacci
Posted 2013-11-15 2:09 PM (#148893 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Tourer

Posts: 401
Cheap (free) solution that fixes the trunk rattle:

http://www.vision-riders.com/bb/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=4231&pos...
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sgiacci
Posted 2013-11-15 4:55 PM (#148898 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: RE: Cheap solutions and modifications


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Posts: 401
Fix the trunk tail light rattle using small pieces of weather-stripping.



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Tri-J
Posted 2013-12-06 4:18 PM (#149404 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: RE: Cheap solutions and modifications


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 6
D/FW, TX
Good mud flap material from Lowe's-about $2 (Lower wall molding)
Attached with the heavy duty two sided tape.

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Nozzledog
Posted 2013-12-06 11:49 PM (#149422 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Visionary

Posts: 1229
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
On a side note. If you add the mudflap, you're less likely to get your fender wedged in the cowling if the bolt holes crack.
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rdbudd
Posted 2013-12-07 10:43 AM (#149438 - in reply to #149422)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Visionary

Posts: 1632
Jasper, MO
Nozzledog - 2013-12-06 11:49 PM

On a side note. If you add the mudflap, you're less likely to get your fender wedged in the cowling if the bolt holes crack.


FWIW, the Goldwing owners have been dealing with the broken front fender issue for many years now, and Honda has been denying warranty claims based on the fact that the owners added the extra weight of a mudflap to the fender..............

Ronnie
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sgiacci
Posted 2014-02-20 9:14 PM (#151562 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


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bump
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sgiacci
Posted 2014-04-15 2:29 PM (#154278 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Tourer

Posts: 401
spring bump
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Boots
Posted 2014-06-12 1:57 PM (#158295 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Tourer

Posts: 599
New Mexico
We are heading out soon for a trip to California, and will be gone for a week. On the way we will be driving in varied temps. Lows in the 50s on the coast (Hwy 1), and up to 108 in Needles, CA and Vegas. I never have enough storage space for our leather jackets (no trunk rack), so will normally just wear them the entire trip, but this time am trying something new.
My neighbor installs vinyl car wrap, so decided to have him cover the top of my trunk to protect the paint, and then just strap the jackets directly on.

Total Costs:
$4 for netting at Harbor Freight
12pk of Coors for Neighbor (Time & Materials)
Already had Bungee Cords


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varyder
Posted 2014-06-12 3:10 PM (#158296 - in reply to #149438)
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Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA

rdbudd - 2013-12-07 11:43 AM Nozzledog - 2013-12-06 11:49 PM On a side note. If you add the mudflap, you're less likely to get your fender wedged in the cowling if the bolt holes crack. FWIW, the Goldwing owners have been dealing with the broken front fender issue for many years now, and Honda has been denying warranty claims based on the fact that the owners added the extra weight of a mudflap to the fender.............. Ronnie

that's one reason why I didn't fight to hard on mine, I had a mudflap, and it did get wedge in the cowling.  Made my own fix, strapping material and a couple of washers and stove bolts, and I have had no further problems or hassles.  

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gr8punkin
Posted 2014-06-12 7:18 PM (#158298 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Cruiser

Posts: 161
Albuquerque NM
I don't know how many people are like me, but I put the trunk on for the wife and leave it off for commuting. I became an expert at removing the license plate and surrounding plastic in a matter of minutes (my record was 12 minutes from street to tour). Then I had an AH-HA moment, and removed the clips on back (toward the rear of the bike) of the street panel. Followed by trimming the tabs that they attach to by 1/4".
Now I only remove the seat and the street panel pulls off quickly, it really doesn't rattle much but I still shove a rag back there because it's easy enough to do. I will try and add pictures next time I pull the panel.
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Nozzledog
Posted 2014-07-25 8:45 PM (#163611 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: RE: Cheap solutions and modifications


Visionary

Posts: 1229
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
It fit! I thought it would be too big, but they went in perfectly. I used a little doublestick tape on the plates so they wouldn't scratch the paint or twist, then added a few home-made decals and it's done.
Pep-Boys, $9.95 ea.



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Nozzledog
Posted 2014-07-25 9:27 PM (#163612 - in reply to #89802)
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Visionary

Posts: 1229
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
One point to make. These are on-off toggles. Stock heated grips require an on-off-on switch. You would either need to use two switches or only have one heat setting. I have aftermarket grips, so my heat switch is at the grips.
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sgiacci
Posted 2014-10-20 10:14 AM (#167391 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Tourer

Posts: 401
fall bump
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sgttrib
Posted 2015-03-09 9:20 AM (#170130 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 5
Grand Forks, ND
Spring bump
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sgiacci
Posted 2015-03-22 4:50 PM (#171402 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: RE: Cheap solutions and modifications


Tourer

Posts: 401
You guys are slacking out there, I have some new ones, but I'm holding back.
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Jedi Jeff
Posted 2015-09-03 10:50 AM (#174628 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: RE: Cheap solutions and modifications


Fountain Inn, SC United States
Here's a cheap mod for better visibility..

Spent $14.95 at Autozone for a 36" strip of LEDs, cut into 3 sections.

Removed the side reflectors and affixed approx 8" strips along the bottom of the saddlebag. The remaining length fit perfectly align the top edge of the street panel.

Tied the leads into the tour pack harness (or heated seat harness for you Vision 8ball owners).

Result: much increased side & rear visibility.





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sgiacci
Posted 2015-09-05 4:27 AM (#174668 - in reply to #174628)
Subject: RE: Cheap solutions and modifications


Tourer

Posts: 401
Nice, I have thinking about doing this, but connecting them to the tail lights with load equalizers.
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nailer
Posted 2015-09-05 7:54 AM (#174669 - in reply to #174668)
Subject: RE: Cheap solutions and modifications


Tourer

Posts: 366
Albuquerque, NM
There are a couple of options that I see. Using the side lights as running lights or turn signals. Using the filler panel strip as a third brake light or running light. I don't think you need load equalizers. The additional current draw is minimal if connecting in parallel with existing left, right, or brake circuit.

Cool mod!

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WVHills
Posted 2015-09-07 8:28 AM (#174690 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 16
Madison, WV
This might go here i think. Cheap solution at least. Just got my VV last weekend. I bought this air pump at Dicks Sporting Goods over the weekend and it worked well, $14.99. It doesnt have a gauge but its not $70 either. Going to try to attach photo. Also used the tip over protection to work on removing a rounded out allen head oil plug, ha.



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johnnyvision
Posted 2015-09-07 5:19 PM (#174696 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Visionary

Posts: 4278
you can get a better oil drain plug from auto store and air pumps with gauges are not $70 bucks

http://www.amazon.com/Fox-Racing-Shox-Shock-027-00-007/dp/B001F212O...
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WVHills
Posted 2015-09-08 6:59 AM (#174721 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 16
Madison, WV
Yeah, already changed that oil plug to a different one. I had just done a quick search on ebay for a "victory" air pump and that was the price range they were in. That fox pump looks good.
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sgiacci
Posted 2016-02-20 10:03 AM (#178942 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Tourer

Posts: 401
WVHills - the on at the beginning of this was very cheap too, but it also fits perfect in the trunk lid.

http://www.vision-riders.com/bb/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=9157&sta...

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sgiacci
Posted 2016-02-20 11:04 AM (#178946 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: RE: Cheap solutions and modifications


Tourer

Posts: 401
As the Vision ages so does the seat, and many come apart at the seams. Getting a new seat, or having the cover replaced can be very expensive. The failure is typically the drivers saddle, and you have to replace "all" of the material in order for it to match.

The cheapest I could find was almost $500 to have the seat done, but instead of replacing all of it I had the upholsterer only replace the saddle. To fix the material matching, I changed the color to match the silver trim on the bike.

In the end it cost $270, and that is just a little more then half the cost of getting the whole seat done. I was concerned but in the end, I think it turned out real nice.

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ByteN2it
Posted 2016-02-24 7:35 AM (#178972 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Tourer

Posts: 482
Beer Collins, Colorado (there is no fort)
FYI-for anyone with a torn seat a new seat cover can be had for $180-you just have to peel the old one off and put this one on.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2008-14-Victory-Vision-custom-made-replacem...
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sgiacci
Posted 2016-03-04 1:05 PM (#179115 - in reply to #178972)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Tourer

Posts: 401
ByteN2it - 2016-02-24 7:35 AM

FYI-for anyone with a torn seat a new seat cover can be had for $180-you just have to peel the old one off and put this one on.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2008-14-Victory-Vision-custom-made-replacem...

Did you do this? I almost got one of these but I couldn't find anyone who has used these, plus I was in the middle of moving to Italy, and needed to make something happen fast before the bike was shipped.
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lennyb
Posted 2016-03-04 4:25 PM (#179117 - in reply to #179115)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Iron Butt

Posts: 804
Perry Hall, MD
sgiacci - 2016-03-04 2:05 PM

ByteN2it - 2016-02-24 7:35 AM

FYI-for anyone with a torn seat a new seat cover can be had for $180-you just have to peel the old one off and put this one on.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2008-14-Victory-Vision-custom-made-replacem...

Did you do this? I almost got one of these but I couldn't find anyone who has used these, plus I was in the middle of moving to Italy, and needed to make something happen fast before the bike was shipped.


I purchased one and installed it myself. He uses a template made from an original seat cover, so while you can pick from several styles and colors of materials there is no option to change the stitch layout.
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sgiacci
Posted 2016-03-08 3:04 PM (#179167 - in reply to #179117)
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Tourer

Posts: 401
lennyb - 2016-03-04 4:25 PM

sgiacci - 2016-03-04 2:05 PM

ByteN2it - 2016-02-24 7:35 AM

FYI-for anyone with a torn seat a new seat cover can be had for $180-you just have to peel the old one off and put this one on.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/2008-14-Victory-Vision-custom-made-replacem...

Did you do this? I almost got one of these but I couldn't find anyone who has used these, plus I was in the middle of moving to Italy, and needed to make something happen fast before the bike was shipped.


I purchased one and installed it myself. He uses a template made from an original seat cover, so while you can pick from several styles and colors of materials there is no option to change the stitch layout.


Take a picture of it, for some reason the seller never provided pictures of it on the bike.
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lennyb
Posted 2016-03-08 8:43 PM (#179168 - in reply to #179167)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Iron Butt

Posts: 804
Perry Hall, MD
Pics were posted @ http://www.vision-riders.com/bb/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=18961&po...
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sgiacci
Posted 2016-03-10 3:31 PM (#179179 - in reply to #179168)
Subject: Re: Cheap solutions and modifications


Tourer

Posts: 401
Looks good and, relatively speaking, CHEAP!

lennyb - 2016-03-08 8:43 PM

Pics were posted @ http://www.vision-riders.com/bb/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=18961&po...
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sgiacci
Posted 2017-03-08 6:40 AM (#191595 - in reply to #89802)
Subject: RE: Cheap solutions and modifications


Tourer

Posts: 401
Been almost a year since I've been on the forum. Time for the "Cheap" bump.

Since Victory is no longer going to be making new stuff, this thread takes on new meaning in keeping our Visions running for the next 100 years.

So step up people, and add to the pot.

FYI - I got a 3d printer for Xmas, and I'm about to start reviewing some of the stuff I've done, and some stuff I would like to do. So more to come...

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Beaveroo
Posted 2018-12-17 12:14 AM (#192761 - in reply to #105922)
Subject: RE: Cheap solutions and modifications


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 7
Coquitlam, B.C. Canada
Just saw this from 2012, but that is perfect. Got bag in 2018 .. nice clean tie down..
Referring to Saddlemen BR4100 on page 2..

Edited by Beaveroo 2018-12-17 12:17 AM
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