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Brighton, TN | Well, I don't have a squeaky belt, but I now have jingling metal sound coming from the front of the bike somewhere. It don't make any noise with the engine reving up, only when moving. Only seems to appear while moving and no brake pressure.
I can apply brake pressure, but noise is there until I stop. Accelerates fine and then comes back, less than a 1/4 mile. Jingles away, so I guess I will be putting it on the lift this evening.
Checked the floating rotors, nothing seems to be loose, don't see anything loose. Sounds like metal on metal jingle, not a constant scrub, maybe its just racket in my brain.
However, I did notice while crawling around the front end that my cute little double sided tape reflectors were falling off. Now, I'm in a Quandry, if I remove them, it will be customization, but if I put them back with new tape, all stock again. What to do? |
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Mt. Vernon, WASH. | Maybe a small stone or piece of grit wedged in one of the pads? Had a horrible racket years ago in my 81 Subi's front brakes, turned out to be a brake pad material piece of fiber that was sticking straight out and using the rotor like a cymbal.
As far as the 'Ralph Naders', pop into POOP-BOYS or the local safety and supply place and pick up some reflective tape, or take 'em off and spend a few minutes with some Naptha (lighter fluid) and remove the residue then you can play B.A. biker boy for real maybe even wear your cap backwards. |
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Pittsburgh, PA | Keys bouncing on dash |
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Brighton, TN | good idea, figured I'd be looking at the brakes.
I have one key in the dash, so unless it jumps out of the ignition and then back in, probably not.
I was thinking I could put lights back in the location of the reflector. |
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Memphis | Hey Po, Think your HID could be rattling around? They've been known to come loose. |
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| maybe from the windshield. That's where mine comes from. Or maybe you have a screw loose and one of the aluminum panels is loose.
I didn't mean you on the screw loose. He He |
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Lumber Bridge, NC United States | can't be a road goblin bell cause visions are thier friends. |
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New Bohemia, Va | ...check your spurs. keep us posted, I don't know what the jingle, jangle, jingle could be. of course, you didn't mention any jangle... |
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Brighton, TN | I think I found my jingle, I did the old school walk around and kick stuff till you hear the sound. I thought it might have been CapNemo's rotors that were loose, but nope, they seem tight. Kicked a little on the tire, then tapped the right side caliper, doesn't seem to make noise. Come around to left side caliper tapped it and wah-la the jingle sound I've been looking for. Grap the floating side with the pistons in it and you can move it a little, seems to have slack in it. Check all the bolts, compare to the other side, seems OK. Even the movement on the piston side seems OK compared to the other side.
So, I took the left side front caliper off the fork tubes and gave it a look see. Don't see anything out of the ordinary, the inside brake pad closest to the tire has the anti rattle plate on the back of it, but not the other side next to the pistons.
Is there supposed to be a anti rattle plate on both of them?
Gave it a good cleaning, put it back together, and if I tap it toward the bottom of the caliper I can make it jingle like I've been hearing. I've ridden it about a hundred miles or so since last night and haven't heard it yet.
Anybody else have this calamity, I changed the brake pads about 5,000 miles ago, it's possible I got a bad set I guess. |
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| Sounds like your floater is gone away. I think in your owners manual will give you spec on how much play you should have. If you have warranty they should replace it for free. Yes I have seen calipers with a shim to keep the pads from squealing.
Try to get the dealer to put in new pads to if its under warranty. |
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Brighton, TN | Please explain "floater is gone away"? I am new to this problem, having never had a problem in this area other than a stuck caliper.
No warranty, I don't remember seeing anywhere what the spec is for how much play or how you would measure it. |
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Brighton, TN | Well, still waiting on that explanation. However, wondering if there is a way to rebend the metal pieces next to the pads to put more pressure on them. Seems possible that is actually what is loose. I have been considering new pads to see if it fixes it, that option is a little more spendy. I guess if that worked, I could keep the older pads and put those in later after the new set wears out and use the metal from the new set. |
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McHenry, IL | You may want to think about bleeding your front brakes. The pads should not have enough room to jingle, the pads should be almost touching the rotors. Try pumping your front brakes to move the pad back close to the rotor and take a spin to see if that stops the jingling.
I think the floater John is referring to is also called an anti-squeel plate and yes, both pads usually have one. |
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Brighton, TN | When using the brakes noise goes away and then reappears a few miles later with no brake input. The pads seem to be riding on the rotor with a light hum sound while coasting. I guess I am at a loss how the bleeding front brakes helps, but I'm game. Front brake handle has plenty of stiffness and early engagement, which it has always been like that. Never had to pump it up to get engagement. The pistons are smooth operating, I was able to push all three of them back in by hand. |
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McHenry, IL | Hmmm, just tossing ideas around to see if anything sticks. There is a spring clip that keeps pressure on the hook side of the pad, does that side of the pad move more than on the other rotor? |
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| Yes there is a isolator peace of metal that is suppose to keep them quiet. Its between the pads and pistons. Even the spring plat that sits on top of the pads could be bad. The circle washers between the inn rotor and the outer rotor are your floaters. They are designed so when you apply the brake they center the rotor for positive centering so your pads come in full contact with the metal surface. There could even be worn pins that makes the caliper jingle. Pads or bleeding I don't think will help you a bit.
I road to lunch today and a the guy next to me said mine made noise. I can't hear it and haven't even looked at it. |
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Jingling front from somewhere!