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Spirit Lake IA "Birthplace of Victory Motorcycles" | I will soon be needing some new tires . . . this is my first tire change. (No, I don't plan to go to the dark side) I will replace with stock Dunlops as I really love the performance. My closest dealer is 1.5 hrs away making any trip there for service an all day experience. Considering buying a J&S jack stand to remove wheels myself, order tires from online source, and local tire shop mount. Questions for folks who have been down this road before: - What was total cost to replace both tires with stock replacement Dunlops?
- How difficult is it to drop the rear axle and then to replace and realign?
- Where is best source to buy Dunlops online?
- What are your thoughts on use of dynabeads?
- How many miles do you typically get on your stock tires between replacement?
- Any of you have positive or negative experience with J & S Lifts?
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New Bohemia, Va | Man314 - 2011-02-12 2:18 PM
I will soon be needing some new tires . . . this is my first tire change.� (No, I don't plan to go to the dark side)� I will replace with stock Dunlops as I really love the performance.� My closest dealer is 1.5 hrs away making any trip there for service an all day experience.� Considering buying a J&S jack stand to remove wheels myself, order tires from online source, and local tire shop mount.� Questions for folks who have been down this road before: - What was total cost to replace both tires with stock replacement Dunlops?
- How difficult is it to drop the rear axle and then to replace and realign?
- Where is best source to buy Dunlops online?
- What are your thoughts on use of dynabeads?
- How many miles do you typically get on your stock tires between replacement?
- Any of you have positive or negative experience with J & S Lifts?
- What was total cost to replace both tires with stock replacement Dunlops? Ove $300 not quite $400 if I remember right for both.
- How difficult is it to drop the rear axle and then to replace and realign? Easy, very easy to remove, it takes finessing to put it back on but I find it rather easy now. Follow the book, and make for sure, sure you know which side the spacers go on, and don't loose them. I have forgotten to take them and then they fall out somewhere a long the way.
- Where is best source to buy Dunlops online? Ronayers.com
- What are your thoughts on use of dynabeads? I want to but never have.
- How many miles do you typically get on your stock tires between replacement? around 20,000 -22,000 front and 12,000 to 14,000, pushing it.
- Any of you have positive or negative experience with J & S Lifts? No, never used them.
Any good local motorcycle shop should be able to mount them for you. Most machines though will requre them to remove the rear pulley, just hope they mark and realign it for you. You might want to mark it your self, black marker would do just fine.
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LaPorte,Tx. | Mark, I have changed the tires on my bike since early on and I don't have any problems in doing it. A service manual is a plus in doing the job. I have a motorcycle jack which I use. The service manual specifies the tools needed. Do a motorcycle search on the web and you get plenty of places to sell you tires. Find a local Mom & Pop shop and they would be happy to mount the tires. Good luck. |
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New Orleans, La, | I would not balance a tyre with anything but Dyna beads cause they flat out work. You do need to remove the old stick on weights and the beads keep balancing the tyre throughout it's service life. They are also transferable to your next set of tyres. I use a jack to remove the rear wheel and the tip over protectors to remove the front, but I agree it helps immensly to have downloaded the manual from this site. Just saying. |
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| Any bike shop can change tires for you, you don't need a Victory dealer.
As for buying a lift and doing it yourself? You'll not save enough money to justify the purchases unless you plan to replace a bunch of tires. Just food for thought. Consider a concrete block and a set of tire irons along with some plastic pellets/BB's from walmart to balance the tire afterwards (the pellets without a seam). Now if you are really cheap just toss the Vision over on the tip overs and do one tire at a time. You don't need a lift or special balancing tools, after all I've done this tons of times whena flat was gotten in the middle of nowhere. |
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dinwiddie, va | I would check out motorcyclesuperstore.com for tires too. I'm not sure what prices others have. But they have some descent prices. As for changing the tires, go for it. Once you do it the first time, you will be comfortable doing it again. Definitely use the manual for belt adjustment/alignment |
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Cottage Grove, Mn | I purchased mine here they ship for FREE
http://www.303cycle.com/303-Cycle-Dunlop-Elite-3-OEM-Replacement-Mo... |
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| The only thing I don't like about that type of lift is the wheels should be wider for more stability. Lifts are nice for cleaning and a good way to keep your bike off the ground in winter months. If you buy the lift its not like your not going to use it again and if you sell the bike you can sell the lift.
I'm not that big of fan of the stock dunlop's wish they had more groves in them to channel water away. I think with all the smoothness of the dunlop they wear to quick.
Scratch a L and a R in your spacers for later on. Get some good wheel bearing grease and you'll need a torque wrench. Heck I take my wheel over to the harley shop a mile away and they mount the tire just fine for me. This summer I will be putting in dynabeds.
Changing tires is more a pain in the ass then any thing. You can do it have a buddy come over and help.
Here a biggest hint.
Loosen all bolts before you get the bike off the ground. Put a good block under the front tire so it doesn't go tip pie on you
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Spirit Lake IA "Birthplace of Victory Motorcycles" | If you have had your tires replaced by your dealer, what was total bill? I think mine told me last fall ~$600 |
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Indianapolis, IN | Man314 - 2011-02-14 6:17 PM If you have had your tires replaced by your dealer, what was total bill? I think mine told me last fall ~$600 Man314 You really should consider doing the whole job yourself. Once you've done a couple you will never need a dealer again for this task, and as far away as your nearest Vic dealer, you could be done and back on the road before you even arrive at your dealer. Below are a couple helpfull links. Watch the video and you will see how easy this can be. The supplier, Jake Wilson, is a first rate business. Free shipping and very hard to beat their prices, and they are nearly always in stock and ship within 24 hours / arrive 3 days later UPS. Tire change video: http://www.jakewilson.com/videos.do?videoId=83 As far as the balancing goes just buy the dynabeads for your bike when you order the tires. Just takes five minutes to install after mounting the tires and you never have to worry again until the next set of tires. Don't bother to try to save the old ones when you do replace again, much easier to just order them with the tires each time. Don't worry, they are much cheaper than periodic balancing anyway and they work even better. Jake Wilson - Dunlop Elite 3 Radials: http://www.jakewilson.com/productDetail.do?navType=type&webTypeId=440&navTitle=Motorcycle+Tires&webCatId=57&keyword=dunlop+elite+3+radial&prodFamilyId=19447 Dynabeads for your bike: http://www.jakewilson.com/productDetail.do?navType=type&webTypeId=321&navTitle=Motorcycle+Tire+Accessories&webCatId=38&prodFamilyId=23687 Good luck and let us know how it goes.  |
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Spirit Lake IA "Birthplace of Victory Motorcycles" | OK, got my tires from jakewilson and dyna beads. I did end up getting a J&S jack and love it! Couple of questions:
- Manual says that I need to replace bolts with new for rear sprocket and brake discs due to pre applied locking agent. Do you replace with new or use some loctite?
- Do I need to do anything with wheel bearings . . . only have 9,000 miles so far
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| Dyna Beads are the shit |
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| Dyna Beads are the shit |
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| I just replaced my tires 3 days ago, I bought the tires from Dennis Kirk for $310.00 shipped. Then paid my local dealer $135.00 for mounting with Dyna beeds. Worked for me Blister |
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Corona, CA | $135 for mounting ????? WOW !
Did he use lube - on you ?
Edited by team5150 2011-03-05 8:04 PM
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Tucson, AZ | I would love to see someone change a rear Vison tire with Dunlop E3's with 3 wimpy tire irons as in the above video....there is no freaken way your going to do it, and if you can, you have my utmost respect. .......
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New Bohemia, Va | ...a Winger friend has a hitch mounted tire changer and saved a fellow Visionaire late one night. My friend has changing his wing down to a science and does it with his eyes close, however, the Vision tire gave it a run for his money, but it did help it was a used tire he was putting on for the rescue. So yes, it has to be a challenge for a new tire using just tire irons... my durag off to ya! |
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Spirit Lake IA "Birthplace of Victory Motorcycles" | Got my rear wheel off no problem . . . now if only I had that HUGE hex wrench to remove the front wheel. Off to hardware store! Will have my local tire shop mount. It will be interesting to see if they embrace the whole idea of Dyna Beads. |
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New Bohemia, Va | Man314 - 2011-03-08 6:59 PM
Got my rear wheel off no problem . . . now if only I had that HUGE hex wrench to remove the front wheel. Off to hardware store! Will have my local tire shop mount. It will be interesting to see if they embrace the whole idea of Dyna Beads.
5/8 hex, sears. |
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Spirit Lake IA "Birthplace of Victory Motorcycles" | Thx Cap'n! |
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Spirit Lake IA "Birthplace of Victory Motorcycles" | Well, got both wheels dropped and taken in to tire store to have my new skins mounted. $28 Tried mounting Doran sensors internal, but threads too short and/or channel in rim too deep. Sensor could not screw down deep enough. Went ahead and mounted metal valve stems. Will go back to external sensor. Dyna Beads in. Now I need to go mount them |
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Ruskin, Fl | I was not familiar with dyna beads. Just found this on youtube. I gotta try them now. My handlebars shake violently at about 35-40 mph if I take my hands off of them them.
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Memphis | If your handlebars shake violently at 35-40 mph, something is really messed up. I rode a stretch of Shenandoah National Park from the back seat with the cruise set at 40 mph and it was smooth as silk. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vigxMuKSaGg |
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Ruskin, Fl | My old bike did the same thing with the stock 18" wheels and E3s, but it would start very slight and progress till you had better grab the bars. This bike has the 21" Ness Evil 7 with E3s and at a certain speed the second you take your hands off it starts to oscillate BAD. The thing I don't get it I can't feel any vibration or shimmy when holding on. I guess the moral of the story is kept your eyes on the road and you hands upon the bars.
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