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Corona, CA | Reluctantly, I joined the tip over club today - only with a twist.
I was turning around on a dead end street with another bike along side of me. Then he turned in front of me to miss going into some gravel reducing the radius I had to maneuver in.
I put my left foot down to walk it around when my foot trailed back, got caught by the rear tip over and pulled me off the bike to the side. Hard to explain and imagine , but go out to your bike with it on the side stand, sitting on the bike and move your left foot back. With your toe on the ground the tip over will come forward over the back of your boot and you are trapped !
(I had this happen one time with a three wheel ATV when the rear wheel caught my foot !)
The bike went over to the left in slow motion with my foot caught between the rear tip over and the ground. It landed with the tip over on my ankle but I was able to weasel it out before the whole weight of the bike rested on it. FN OUCH !
Nothing broken but my ankle is swollen and hurts. This is something to be aware of. Your foot can VERY easily get caught back there as you make a slow sharp turn. Keep your feet ahead of you when turning like this and don't let them trail back as you go around.
I've been riding for a lot of years and as far as I can remember this is the only bike that has this type of hard protrusion in the back that can catch your foot like that.
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Tourer
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, IA | Yep u r not the first and will not b the last |
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Iron Butt
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North Orange County CA | Thought I had broken my ankle once on my Electraglide. I was making a right hand turn coming out of a gravel parking lot onto a busy street when my boot heel caught on the edge of the road. The foot stayed stationary as the bike accelerated and got my boot stuck under the rear crash bar and saddle bag.
A lot of Vision riders leave the passenger floorboards down to act as a gentle reminder to get that foot up, because the tip-over is coming next, and its not nearly as forgiving. |
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Visionary
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| I wound if victory has been sued cause of this. I know the 3 wheels went away cause of the wheel running over the rider.
Now the 2011's don't have it.
I would take mine off but the price of saddle bags aren't cheap |
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Visionary
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Rancho Cucamonga, CA | Have caught my foot twice this way on my Vision, no TOC. The tip about the rear passenger boards is good though, both time I felt my foot hit it and it gave me just enough reaction time to get my foot out. |
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Iron Butt
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Anderson, IN (48mi NE of downtown Indianapolis) | I learned early in my Vision days to walk the bike with short steps. The tipovers caught my shoes a couple of times. Never went down, but it was enough to let me know what COULD happen. It's second nature now to keep my feet away from the tipovers. |
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Cruiser
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| When I had my Kingpin I always let my feet go towards the rear of the bike while starting off and I found that the first time I test drove a Vision I too got my foot stuck under the tipover wing. It hurts, learned my lesson, have not done it since! |
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Tourer
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Tacoma, WA | Three wheelers did not go away because of feet getting run over. Four wheelers would do the same thing! Three wheelers were outlawed because they were considered too 'tippy' after a few folks had fatal accidents. As for the tipovers...don't put your feet back there.------Metalguy |
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Cruiser
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Northern NJ | pfhague - 2010-12-11 8:30 PM
When I had my Kingpin I always let my feet go towards the rear of the bike while starting off and I found that the first time I test drove a Vision I too got my foot stuck under the tipover wing. It hurts, learned my lesson, have not done it since!
+1
With the Vision I learned to pick up both feet right quick. |
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Cruiser
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Rhode Island | Had this happen the first time I test drove the Vision, that was enough. Like K2V2 said, the feet come up real quick now.
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Cruiser
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| I had this issue once till someone told me to leave the passenger floorboards down and that will touch your ankle before your foot gets caught. Has worked for me ever since. |
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Iron Butt
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Central New York | +1 on passenger floorboards down. |
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Cruiser
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Sugar Land, TX (Outside of Houston) | Been there - Done That. I avoided a spill but sprained the heck out of my ankle. |
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Cruiser
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Cold Lake Alberta Canada | I'm lucky my legs are too short to reach. LOL |
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Tourer
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, IA | passenger floorboards down, thanks. will do this next time i ride oh ya about march 2011 lol |
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Visionary
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Memphis | I was going to make a poster of this using an Achilles tendon tear as the photo but the photos are so disgusting it made my palms sweat just looking at them. I've blown out an Achilles tendon playing tennis and had the rear tipover nudge that same spot on my leg (only once, with boots on). To those of you who have gone through this, I feel your pain. Just watching a guy walk his motorcycle forward at a stoplight gives me the heebie-jeebies. |
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Cruiser
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Edmonton AB, Canada | I noticed the passenger floorboards on the back of my leg first time I took wifey for a ride on the new Vision.
Now I am real careful to get my feet up as fast as possible! |
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Iron Butt
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Reno County, KS | dcramer - 2010-12-23 4:54 PM
I noticed the passenger floorboards on the back of my leg first time I took wifey for a ride on the new Vision.
Now I am real careful to get my feet up as fast as possible!
Yeah, I had to learn the hard way too years ago. I think this is exactly why the MSF teaches us to take our feet off the ground as soon as possible and leave them on the pegs as much as possible. |
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Fountain Inn, SC United States | john frey - 2010-12-11 6:47 PM
I wound if victory has been sued cause of this. I know the 3 wheels went away cause of the wheel running over the rider.
Now the 2011's don't have it.
I would take mine off but the price of saddle bags aren't cheap
I was contacted by a lawyer who was suing Victory because his client was injured from having his foot caught under the tipover protectors. He had done a google search and found my article in which I warned about that happening. Don't know what came of the suit.
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Tourer
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| I think this is exactly why the MSF teaches us to take our feet off the ground as soon as possible and leave them on the pegs as much as possible.
+1 on that, the feet belong on the ground only when the bike is stopped...........
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fKu8GUNntwU&feature=channel |
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Visionary
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New Bohemia, Va | Oddly enough the only time I caught my foot in the left tip-over was during the MSF ERC. It was because I took off in a turning fashion, the bike was leaned and I kept my foot down a moment too long. Remembering that the passenger footboards will hit the ankle first, I have rode with them down since.
This thread is a reminder to the reader that practise, practise, practise in all known situations is the only thing that will make you a better rider. Slow speed manuever is one area that we need to continue to hone our skill and not fall victim to this. The Vision would not be the only bike this would happen on either.
Edited by Cap'n Nemo 2010-12-24 6:28 AM
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Cruiser
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Tifton, GA | I had passenger floor board extendtions on a Honda Magna that made me pick my feet up for this reason. Never got my foot caught, but they were so close that it was always in my mind to watch out. Problem was solved when the wife started riding her own bike and I took them off. So I was trained when I got Liandra. |
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Iron Butt
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New York State | I have been bitten by the tip overs a few times I try to stay out of their way |
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Cruiser
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| I unfortunately know exactly how you feel. I'm not the tallest person and have short legs but the Vision is so low (one reason I love it) that I routinely catch my left ankle for some reason when I'm walking it to the back yard garage. |
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Cruiser
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Extreme Southern, AZ United States | Walking a bike is the wrong way to do it. You ride a bike. |
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Iron Butt
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Perry Hall, MD | Cap'n Nemo - 2010-12-24 7:27 AM
Remembering that the passenger footboards will hit the ankle first, I have rode with them down since.
+1 on keeping the passenger boards down as a way to help avoid this. Someone else had suggested it in a much earlier post and ever since the only time mine get pushed up is for a wash. |
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Tellico Village, Loudon TN | +1 on this happening to me. My boot got caught on take off one time and I have been very conscious of the rear tip overs since. I had not heard of using the rear floor boards as a warning device. I'll go put mine down today. |
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Cruiser
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Baltimore, Md | This certainly isn't an exclusive club is it? Me too...still hurts like hell just thinking about it. |
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Cruiser
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New Brunswick , Canada | Preacher Man - 2011-01-01 7:59 AM
+1 on this happening to me. My boot got caught on take off one time and I have been very conscious of the rear tip overs since. I had not heard of using the rear floor boards as a warning device. I'll go put mine down today.
Yup ...been there..done that. Victory should probably provide a safety Warning Tag (sticker). Just for safety precaution. I think Polaris has those warning sticker on there four wheelers just for that purpose . The back wheel can take you off the 4wheeler pretty fast. |
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Iron Butt
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Central New York | We've had quite a few new Vision owners over the last few months. thought this thread should be pulled back up front.
Don't get bit, keep passenger floorboards down. |
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Cruiser
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Bolivar Missouri | They should also put if you go down keep feet on floor boards and squeeze the S#*% out of the tank and ride it out ..... I went down at 40 mph first to the left then to the right , i put my foot down and broke my leg completely in 2 places and fractured in 5 more ..... Hard way to learn this though .
+1 on keeping the rear boards down |
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Puddle Jumper
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| I've started a habit of stretching my legs out farther than normal, but no so far whereas if you foot slipped you would lose it. It gives you a little more leverage holding the beast up, as well as clearing the tip over on take off. And also, if bike is moving, feet on floorboards. No ands, ifs, or buts! |
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Cruiser
Posts: 50
| This happened to me in front of the dealership the day I picked my bike up.glad I didn't dump it.
JustBob - 2010-12-30 11:49 PM
Walking a bike is the wrong way to do it. You ride a bike. |
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Iron Butt
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Tri Cities, WA | JustBob - 2010-12-30 7:49 PM
Walking a bike is the wrong way to do it. You ride a bike.
BINGO. That says it all. |
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Cruiser
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Bullhead City, AZ | One of the first video that I ever saw on the Vision was some English accented rider comparing the Ultraglide, BMW LT, and the Vision. His biggest complaints about the Vision was the small gas tank as it only held 3 gallons and that he had run over his foot multiple times with the tip over. He was filling the tank without putting it on the kickstand and not filling the tank all the way. He lost all credibility when talking about running over his foot. I only ran the Honda 3 wheeler up my leg once before I learned not to put my foot down when turning and only had to runover my foot once on the vision to never do it again. Its not a fun lessson. |
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Rear tip over pulled me off my bike !