New Vision Rider
chappellj
Posted 2010-11-16 7:45 AM (#73592)
Subject: New Vision Rider


Cruiser

Posts: 62
Jacksonville, Florida
Hello,

I am Joel from Jacksonville. Just picked up my brand new 2011 Vision Tour last week. I have about 250 miles so far. I have had 2 hondas, 1 Kaw KZ750, a HD FXRT, HD Soft tail, HD electra Glide, and recently a Honda VTX1300.

I test rode a Vision 2 years ago and knew without any doubt or reservation that I had to have one. Once we got financially ready we made the jump and got a Pearl White 2011 Victory Vision from Jacksonville Powersports. My salesman was Byron James. I mention it because he is the best salesperson I ever dealt with. Straight talk and very reasonable. And I got a great deal. (I am the intense looking one, guess I was thinking more about riding than posing)



This forum seems to be the best one due to the number of people that aren't afraid to make mods or do their own service (gasp!) The mods I am planning are:

Thrush Exhaust - in work
Top plate breather
Loydz VFC

I am heading to the dealer today to order a service manual, hopefully they have one.

I rode a 2010 before I purchased my 2011. The transmission update on the 2011 is huge I think. Definitely quieter and shifts smoother (i think). The exhaust note is barely deeper, but still has the EPA imposed choke hold. The test ride I did with the Thrush mufflers already helped it accelerate smoother and it seems happier. I can't wait to see how it performs with an open breather assy and VFC.

Here are some pictures if you are interested.


http://picasaweb.google.com/joelchappelljr/Victory_vision#
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dan camarco
Posted 2010-11-16 7:52 AM (#73595 - in reply to #73592)
Subject: Re: New Vision Rider


Cruiser

Posts: 206
Lumber Bridge, NC United States
welcome to the smile never quits club. enjoy that machine and ride safe.
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Jedi Jeff
Posted 2010-11-16 8:23 AM (#73599 - in reply to #73592)
Subject: Re: New Vision Rider


Fountain Inn, SC United States
The white Vision is stunning! Welcome to the site!
Let's see a photo of you and the bike once you have the exhaust installed.
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Cometman
Posted 2010-11-16 8:25 AM (#73600 - in reply to #73592)
Subject: Re: New Vision Rider


Tourer

Posts: 520
Simi Valley, CA
Enjoy the ride! You will be smiling ear to ear from now on.
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varyder
Posted 2010-11-16 8:36 AM (#73601 - in reply to #73592)
Subject: Re: New Vision Rider


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
You have become another face in the crowd...that smiles because they ride a Vision now! Happy Motoring! Tomorrow is my 3 year anniversary of riding the Vision and will have ##,### miles on it.
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Arkainzeye
Posted 2010-11-16 9:31 AM (#73606 - in reply to #73592)
Subject: Re: New Vision Rider


Visionary

Posts: 3773
Pittsburgh, PA
love the white vision!!! Welcome!
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Trekwolf164
Posted 2010-11-16 9:47 AM (#73608 - in reply to #73592)
Subject: Re: New Vision Rider


Iron Butt

Posts: 965
New York State
Welcome to the family . Enjoy your new ride and do it safely please
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Kioti
Posted 2010-11-16 10:06 AM (#73610 - in reply to #73592)
Subject: Re: New Vision Rider


Cruiser

Posts: 160
Lennox, SD
Welcome Joel!
Tell us about the Thrush exhaust mod.
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DrDecay
Posted 2010-11-16 11:04 AM (#73613 - in reply to #73592)
Subject: Re: New Vision Rider


Cruiser

Posts: 277
Apopka, FL
Welcome Joel. I'm new to this site and riding Visions also. Bought mine about a month ago. LOVE IT. Not new to Victory however; rode my TCD for almost 5 years before trading her on my Blue Ice VVTP. Now get on her and start the grinning process!
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trailbarge
Posted 2010-11-16 11:11 AM (#73614 - in reply to #73592)
Subject: Re: New Vision Rider


Tourer

Posts: 363
Goldsboro, NC
In the bicycling world, there is a phenomenon called the "recumbent grin".

Prepare to experience the "Vision grin".

Welcome.
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jboyette
Posted 2010-11-16 6:41 PM (#73637 - in reply to #73592)
Subject: RE: New Vision Rider


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 44
Middleburg, Fl.
I just got mine a month ago. Lovin' it! I am in Middleburg, FL.
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chappellj
Posted 2010-11-16 9:15 PM (#73641 - in reply to #73610)
Subject: Re: New Vision Rider


Cruiser

Posts: 62
Jacksonville, Florida
Kioti - 2010-11-16 11:06 AM

Welcome Joel!
Tell us about the Thrush exhaust mod.


A user named FARGO was the first I read about doing this. He used Cherry Bombs. I found Thrush Mufflers locally at Advance auto parts for $19.99 ea. They are just like Cherry bombs. 2 1/4" inlet and outlet. They mate right up to the stock header with the stock clamps.

The install was not bad, but it is a good bit of fabrication.

The order of components is:
Muffler to header using stock clamp. I used a 2 1/4 OD adapter to a 2 1/8 pipe. Then I attached the original end cap and reattached the heat shields.

It was a bear of a job, but worth it. Total cost $65. The sound is VERY deep and smooth, but not harsh or obnoxious. I can now hear what the motor is doing at 70, but it isn't so loud that I can't hear the radio. The bike performs like before. When I add the big sucker and VFC, I expect that the open pipes will help it breathe. I'll let you know. I got done late, so I didn't have time to setup for Video and Sound. I will probably get to that Thursday. I will post a good quality byte with pro gear.


Hope this helps. Check out the thread below to read Fargo's experience, which again, I where I found out about it.

http://www.vision-riders.com/bb/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=7258&pos...

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Dain
Posted 2010-11-16 9:46 PM (#73642 - in reply to #73592)
Subject: Re: New Vision Rider


Cruiser

Posts: 144
Hi, and welcome to the club. I hope you didnt get that manual today here is a link thats on this site to a downloadable manual http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=07fff18097bbb6d2ab1eab3e9fa335ca... . I hate to see you waste money that could go to goodies for the bike. Dain
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ScoreBo
Posted 2010-11-16 10:00 PM (#73643 - in reply to #73592)
Subject: Re: New Vision Rider


Iron Butt

Posts: 1117
Northeast Ohio
Welcome to the club and, so you know, we love to spend your money for you!
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nellynel
Posted 2010-11-16 10:21 PM (#73644 - in reply to #73592)
Subject: RE: New Vision Rider


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 10
East Pennsylvania
Yes, welcome aboard like someone said earlier the smile never stops. I just picked up my 2010 VV 8 ball and I have to say I am amazed on the performance and the handling. Enjoy.
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radioteacher
Posted 2010-11-17 12:42 AM (#73656 - in reply to #73592)
Subject: Re: New Vision Rider


Visionary

Posts: 3006
San Antonio, TX
Have fun...Please let use know if you have any questions.

Ride Safe!
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ingle51
Posted 2010-11-17 11:45 AM (#73710 - in reply to #73592)
Subject: RE: New Vision Rider


Cruiser

Posts: 123
NE Florida Jacksonville
Welcome to the fold I too live in Jacksonville. I love my Vision it is the best bike I've ever had the privilege of owning. We need more people who like to wrench on their bikes, it has become a lost art. This site is a great place to get inspiration or fresh ideas on how one can mod his or her bike. Ride safe!

YIC

Darryl Ingle
CMA
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VisionTex
Posted 2010-11-17 11:59 AM (#73713 - in reply to #73710)
Subject: RE: New Vision Rider


Visionary

Posts: 1484
LaPorte,Tx.
Congrats on the new bike. Also, thanks for the pictures, they are the first I've seen of the White Pearl 2011 Vision. Can someone confirm are the painted parts that used to be brushed aluminum...still aluminum? I really like these parts painted.
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chappellj
Posted 2010-11-17 12:49 PM (#73717 - in reply to #73710)
Subject: RE: New Vision Rider


Cruiser

Posts: 62
Jacksonville, Florida
ingle51 - 2010-11-17 12:45 PM

Welcome to the fold I too live in Jacksonville. I love my Vision it is the best bike I've ever had the privilege of owning. We need more people who like to wrench on their bikes, it has become a lost art. This site is a great place to get inspiration or fresh ideas on how one can mod his or her bike. Ride safe!

YIC

Darryl Ingle
CMA


Yes sir. You and your Black and lime vision are almost legendary. Through the whole process of buying my bike, there must have been 5 different people ask me if I knew Daryl Ingle, you know, they guy with the black vision with lime graphics?

That and I'm on staff at Kernan Baptist, and they know you are CMA.

Need to meet up sometime.



Joel
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CoolHandLuke
Posted 2010-11-17 2:43 PM (#73727 - in reply to #73592)
Subject: Re: New Vision Rider


Iron Butt

Posts: 849
, FL United States
Joel, you have confused Len Rhymes' black and lime green '08 with Darryl who is the CMA member and has a much newer (2010 I think) Vision (I can't remember what color Darryl's is).
BTW I'm CoolHandLuke and ride the '08 Midnight Cherry Vis and live over here on the Southside like Len.
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rainryder
Posted 2010-11-17 3:16 PM (#73730 - in reply to #73592)
Subject: Re: New Vision Rider


Tourer

Posts: 444
Bay of Gigs, WA
I bought my '08 Street Premium at auction when the economy was worse than it is, and so I didn't get an owners manual. I downloaded the service manual to CD, but the site I went to to pilfer an owners manual was shut down. Anybody know where one can go to download one of those critters?
And pearl white-Harley brags incessantly about its paint, but Victory has some serious colors of its own. I haven't seen one like yours in the flesh yet, but I bet you can't hardly look at your new scoot in the bright sunlight! Good on ya!
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Jedi Jeff
Posted 2010-11-17 3:29 PM (#73731 - in reply to #73730)
Subject: Re: New Vision Rider


Fountain Inn, SC United States
rainrider - you can download an Owner's Manual direct (and free) from Polaris:

http://www.polarisindustries.com/en-us/OurCompany/Parts-manuals/Pag...


----- Now back to our regularly scheduled topic: Welcome New Vision Riders!! -----



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ingle51
Posted 2010-11-17 3:55 PM (#73733 - in reply to #73592)
Subject: RE: New Vision Rider


Cruiser

Posts: 123
NE Florida Jacksonville
Don't worry about mistaking my bike for another, it is a 2010 Ocean Blue/Sandstone, a good Naval Aviation color combo. I'll keep an eye out for you and your new ride.
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varyder
Posted 2010-11-17 4:15 PM (#73736 - in reply to #73731)
Subject: Re: New Vision Rider


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
Jedi Jeff - 2010-11-17 4:29 PM

rainrider - you can download an Owner's Manual direct (and free) from Polaris:

http://www.polarisindustries.com/en-us/OurCompany/Parts-manuals/Pag...


----- Now back to our regularly scheduled topic: Welcome New Vision Riders!! -----





no 08 Vision manual
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CowboyVision
Posted 2010-11-17 5:11 PM (#73739 - in reply to #73592)
Subject: Re: New Vision Rider


Cruiser

Posts: 126
Meadow, Texas
Welcome to the Victory Vision club and I just happen to agree with you about Pearl White being the one color to own.
I have enjoyed my Vision for a full year and never looked back. Now you'll see what we all talk about when other riders stop and ask you about your ride.
Hope to run into your when we go down south for vacation.
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rainryder
Posted 2010-11-17 5:55 PM (#73741 - in reply to #73592)
Subject: Re: New Vision Rider


Tourer

Posts: 444
Bay of Gigs, WA
Jedi:

Varyder is accurate, no '08 Vision manual. I found a thread to instruct me how to change the clock, so that helped. Thanks for the help though.
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chappellj
Posted 2010-11-17 7:45 PM (#73762 - in reply to #73733)
Subject: RE: New Vision Rider


Cruiser

Posts: 62
Jacksonville, Florida
ingle51 - 2010-11-17 4:55 PM

Don't worry about mistaking my bike for another, it is a 2010 Ocean Blue/Sandstone, a good Naval Aviation color combo. I'll keep an eye out for you and your new ride.


Sorry 'bout that. I still have "There's a vision in my garage" shock. It'll be a week before I come back down to earth. Obviously heard about both of you from different folks and merged the details.
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chappellj
Posted 2010-11-17 7:48 PM (#73763 - in reply to #73727)
Subject: Re: New Vision Rider


Cruiser

Posts: 62
Jacksonville, Florida
CoolHandLuke - 2010-11-17 3:43 PM

Joel, you have confused Len Rhymes' black and lime green '08 with Darryl who is the CMA member and has a much newer (2010 I think) Vision (I can't remember what color Darryl's is).
BTW I'm CoolHandLuke and ride the '08 Midnight Cherry Vis and live over here on the Southside like Len.


Thanks for the clarification. Cool to hear about other riders in the community.
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chappellj
Posted 2010-11-17 7:56 PM (#73765 - in reply to #73730)
Subject: Re: New Vision Rider


Cruiser

Posts: 62
Jacksonville, Florida
rainryder - 2010-11-17 4:16 PM

And pearl white-Harley brags incessantly about its paint, but Victory has some serious colors of its own. I haven't seen one like yours in the flesh yet, but I bet you can't hardly look at your new scoot in the bright sunlight! Good on ya!


The whole story is that I was considering a black 2010 from an out of town dealer. I went to the Fuel-it demo ride at Jax Powersports. One of the salesman asked me if I wanted to buy one, told him I had a deal going. He asked if I wanted him to try and match it locally, I said go for it. He said no 2010, but they had a 2011 on the way in a couple of weeks. He would get pretty close to the deal I had goin and it was a year newer so I said cool, what color? He said white. I said what about red? He said 3 months. I said, I can deal with white. I thought I was settling.

When he called me and said it was in I went down and watched them put it together. When the sun hit that Pearl white, I was astounded. Everyone that sees it has to comment on how it looks. It really is a beautiful color, and it's mine!

I have several pics at the link below.

http://picasaweb.google.com/joelchappelljr/Victory_vision#
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radioteacher
Posted 2010-11-17 9:03 PM (#73772 - in reply to #73762)
Subject: RE: New Vision Rider


Visionary

Posts: 3006
San Antonio, TX
chappellj - 2010-11-17 7:45 PM
Sorry 'bout that. I still have "There's a vision in my garage" shock. It'll be a week before I come back down to earth.


It has been over two years since I rode my Vision home. I promise you that if I walked in the garage right now there would be a smile on face as soon as I saw it!

Ride Safe
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picard
Posted 2010-11-17 10:08 PM (#73776 - in reply to #73592)
Subject: Re: New Vision Rider


Cruiser

Posts: 111
Prairie Dog Heaven, CO
Welcome. I'm fairly new here myself and have immensely enjoyed my '10 bat bike (color at the other end of the spectrum :-) ) Victory has really built a remarkable piece of art and engineering for us to enjoy.
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rainryder
Posted 2010-11-17 10:30 PM (#73777 - in reply to #73592)
Subject: Re: New Vision Rider


Tourer

Posts: 444
Bay of Gigs, WA
Did you eventually use the stock cover over the Thrush? What did you use to anchor it on the back end? Extremely intrigueing to me as I saw on your other thread that you really dug the sound, and, frankly, my S1L2 still sounds kinda weak in comparison to all the hogs I gotta put up with. I can't afford a bunch of dough for factory stuff, but , man, if a hundred bucks and some elbow grease does the trick sound-wise, well, there ya go!
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chappellj
Posted 2010-11-18 6:59 AM (#73799 - in reply to #73777)
Subject: Re: New Vision Rider


Cruiser

Posts: 62
Jacksonville, Florida
rainryder - 2010-11-17 11:30 PM

Did you eventually use the stock cover over the Thrush? What did you use to anchor it on the back end? Extremely intrigueing to me as I saw on your other thread that you really dug the sound, and, frankly, my S1L2 still sounds kinda weak in comparison to all the hogs I gotta put up with. I can't afford a bunch of dough for factory stuff, but , man, if a hundred bucks and some elbow grease does the trick sound-wise, well, there ya go!


I used the rear original mount with muffler strap. That was the tricky part. I will revisit the mount job again as I want something more rigid. It holds it, but the original used bolts and a mounted (welded) flange on the muffler.

Yes, the heatshields are mounted to the new muffler. Have to use pipe clamps as the original straps have to be cut off.

I haven't heard an s1l2 live. I am guessing, based on what I've read people comment, that it must be similar. These Thrush pipes are louder than stock, they are open baffles. They aren't as loud as a Harley with drag pipes or even pig pipes. They are low and smooth, but I don't see people snapping their head around when I drive by like I'm used to.

The way Victory has designed the system, I just don't know if there will be a way to get that type of sound. Everything for the Vision seems to be pretty mellow. Maybe something to do with the in-line cats? I have always had reasonably loud pipes on every bike I've had.

I don't have to argue the point, but loud pipes have repeatedly made my presence known to drivers that would otherwise not know I was in their blind spot. I want them looking for me before they see me and I accomplish that with an exhaust that has an earth shaking rumble, thats how I'm wired. These pipes do not accomplish that. They are cheap, louder than stock and very pleasing... but thunderous they are not.

I am still searching for those pipes, but I haven't seen any.
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chappellj
Posted 2010-11-18 7:07 AM (#73800 - in reply to #73777)
Subject: Re: New Vision Rider


Cruiser

Posts: 62
Jacksonville, Florida
rainryder - 2010-11-17 11:30 PM

I can't afford a bunch of dough for factory stuff, but , man, if a hundred bucks and some elbow grease does the trick sound-wise, well, there ya go!


One way to find out the difference. If you are willing to remove the side lowers so you can get to everything, you could pick up a pair of thrush or cherry bombs. Save your receipt. Remove your mufflers, slide on the new ones. Don't clamp them on or add the tail pipe. Once you clamp them it makes permanent marks and they won't take them back. Fire it up and listen to the contrast. You can't ride it but you have listened to your pipes enough to know how they compare. If it isn't more, put yours back on and return the others.

or drive to FL and we can do a side by side.



Edited by chappellj 2010-11-18 7:08 AM
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chappellj
Posted 2010-11-18 7:21 AM (#73804 - in reply to #73800)
Subject: Re: New Vision Rider


Cruiser

Posts: 62
Jacksonville, Florida
One more thing about the THrush mufflers. The end caps were difficult. The black curved inner part is not attached to the chrome part of the end cap. I don't know if it's this way on all years but that black part is welded to the stock muffler. I had to cut the welds to get it off. I wanted it as part of my system, so I welded it to the chrome piece.

It worked but now I have to do some finishing to hide my tack welds or get a different end cap. Just wanted to share the good bad and ugly of the whole thing.
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chappellj
Posted 2010-11-18 4:24 PM (#73836 - in reply to #73804)
Subject: Video


Cruiser

Posts: 62
Jacksonville, Florida
As Promised here is a video of the Thrush mufflers.





If it doesn't diplay correctly it can be found at

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZprUq1tZ_6c
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dr_reloader
Posted 2010-11-18 7:32 PM (#73850 - in reply to #73592)
Subject: Re: New Vision Rider


Tourer

Posts: 537
, FL United States
Welcome. I am a little more south of you guys. Just north of Sarasota and just east of Bradenton.
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rainryder
Posted 2010-11-19 2:33 PM (#73906 - in reply to #73592)
Subject: Re: New Vision Rider


Tourer

Posts: 444
Bay of Gigs, WA
It sure sounds throatier without the end caps, huh? It loses that"Phttt" kinda sound when you back off the throttle if the caps are off. Thanks for the demo!
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BreadmanRo
Posted 2010-11-19 9:58 PM (#73913 - in reply to #73765)
Subject: Re: New Vision Rider


Cruiser

Posts: 155
Stockton, California
chappellj - 2010-11-17 7:56 PM

rainryder - 2010-11-17 4:16 PM

And pearl white-Harley brags incessantly about its paint, but Victory has some serious colors of its own. I haven't seen one like yours in the flesh yet, but I bet you can't hardly look at your new scoot in the bright sunlight! Good on ya!


The whole story is that I was considering a black 2010 from an out of town dealer. I went to the Fuel-it demo ride at Jax Powersports. One of the salesman asked me if I wanted to buy one, told him I had a deal going. He asked if I wanted him to try and match it locally, I said go for it. He said no 2010, but they had a 2011 on the way in a couple of weeks. He would get pretty close to the deal I had goin and it was a year newer so I said cool, what color? He said white. I said what about red? He said 3 months. I said, I can deal with white. I thought I was settling.

When he called me and said it was in I went down and watched them put it together. When the sun hit that Pearl white, I was astounded. Everyone that sees it has to comment on how it looks. It really is a beautiful color, and it's mine!

I have several pics at the link below.

http://picasaweb.google.com/joelchappelljr/Victory_vision#


Joel,
Welcome to the Pearl White club. I have a 2010 pearl white and absolutly love it. I bought it in February and already have 6,000 miles on it. When we bought ours there were not many pearl white around. I bought from my local dealer here in Lathrop, California. Kind of a funny story is after we bought it we were on a ride to the bay area and stopped by the Arlen Ness dealership in Dublin. They were shocked to see a white one. They had not been able to get one. The dealer I got mine from is a small dealer in a small town. The manger at Ness was wondering how they got one (in his words in a "podunk town") and the Ness delaership didn't. The manager was on the phone with his rep immediately. It wasn't long before they had one on their sales floor. I have to laugh every time I think of it. Score one for the little guys. Anyway, you will definitely enjoy the bike as well as all the attntion from gaukers
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chappellj
Posted 2010-11-20 7:38 PM (#73957 - in reply to #73906)
Subject: Re: New Vision Rider


Cruiser

Posts: 62
Jacksonville, Florida
rainryder - 2010-11-19 3:33 PM

It sure sounds throatier without the end caps, huh? It loses that"Phttt" kinda sound when you back off the throttle if the caps are off. Thanks for the demo!


It does sound better. In fact, I pulled the stock end caps and put on some 4" resonator tips. I don't know if it adds or just opened up, but I did about 100 miles today and the bike is ferocious.

I may have underestimated how big a difference these Thrush mufflers make. I have literally no popping, even during decel. But when I go under overpasses at 55-65 it is thunderous. It is more responsive and I am enjoying the heck out of it. Now it feels like a muscle bike, and sounds like it too.
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