Roland Sands & Lloydz Motorworks
Jedi Jeff
Posted 2010-11-07 10:10 AM (#73120)
Subject: Roland Sands & Lloydz Motorworks


Fountain Inn, SC United States

It's Official! Lloydz is building the motor for Roland Sands' Mission 200 bike



There's been rumors about it but Lloydz made it official. They've been developing a 214hp, 243ftlb monster to propel RSD's custom Victory to (and probably past) 200mph. You can check out Roland's blog about it here.



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rwilly
Posted 2010-11-07 11:34 AM (#73126 - in reply to #73120)
Subject: Re: Roland Sands & Lloydz Motorworks


Tourer

Posts: 523
seattle, wa
Sweet!
Hold on tight.
I am looking forward to the results.
243LBS. = stump pullin tractor power!
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XRsteve
Posted 2010-11-07 3:22 PM (#73132 - in reply to #73126)
Subject: Re: Roland Sands & Lloydz Motorworks


Visionary

Posts: 2300
Georgia, west of Atlanta
Looking at the machine, 214 HP should get it around 205-210 mph. Now, is there a turbo package for the Vision ??? hahaha..................
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Fastfred
Posted 2010-11-08 6:39 AM (#73161 - in reply to #73120)
Subject: RE: Roland Sands & Lloydz Motorworks


Cruiser

Posts: 284
mansfield, MA United States
Finally a turbo!!! Now that's power!!!!!
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hmd520
Posted 2010-11-08 7:16 AM (#73167 - in reply to #73120)
Subject: Re: Roland Sands & Lloydz Motorworks


Cruiser

Posts: 244
Tucson , AZ
That is exactly what i would like to have .... a turbo. Turbo on a Vision would be sweet.
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VisionTex
Posted 2010-11-08 8:53 AM (#73178 - in reply to #73167)
Subject: Re: Roland Sands & Lloydz Motorworks


Visionary

Posts: 1484
LaPorte,Tx.
This is really sweet. I had a turbo bike back in the '80s, a CX650T, awsome motorcycle. It had the capability to go 145 mph observed, and when I rode it at highway speed it would get 55 to 60 mpg. I believe the Vision is a bike that begs for a turbo. A smaller turbo for quicker boost. The one thing about a turbo is it creates a ton of torque...it is so much fun.
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varyder
Posted 2010-11-08 9:23 AM (#73180 - in reply to #73120)
Subject: Re: Roland Sands & Lloydz Motorworks


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
...finally a sports bike that I like...!
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asphalt
Posted 2010-11-08 1:54 PM (#73203 - in reply to #73120)
Subject: Re: Roland Sands & Lloydz Motorworks


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 6
This company makes one for the Vegas, maybe if they had enough request they would make one for the Vision.

http://www.aerocharger.com/kits_victory_vegas.php
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donetracey
Posted 2010-11-08 2:20 PM (#73205 - in reply to #73120)
Subject: Re: Roland Sands & Lloydz Motorworks


Visionary

Posts: 2118
Pitt Meadows, BC Canada
DON'T EVEN THINK ABOUT IT!

You'll hurt yourself. Don't you children ever listen????
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hmd520
Posted 2010-11-08 3:45 PM (#73207 - in reply to #73120)
Subject: Re: Roland Sands & Lloydz Motorworks


Cruiser

Posts: 244
Tucson , AZ
Nope..... Going to fast or having to much power is like having to much money. LOL
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Lloyd
Posted 2010-11-09 8:59 AM (#73226 - in reply to #73120)
Subject: RE: Roland Sands & Lloydz Motorworks


Cruiser

Posts: 77
If there enough interest we're thinking about a Vision turbo package! Anyone? Anyone?

Lloyd
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radioteacher
Posted 2010-11-09 9:23 AM (#73228 - in reply to #73120)
Subject: Re: Roland Sands & Lloydz Motorworks


Visionary

Posts: 3006
San Antonio, TX
Lloyd,

If you build it....they will go....fast!

Thanks for all you do!
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VisionTex
Posted 2010-11-09 11:51 AM (#73238 - in reply to #73226)
Subject: RE: Roland Sands & Lloydz Motorworks


Visionary

Posts: 1484
LaPorte,Tx.
Lloyd - 2010-11-09 7:59 AM

If there enough interest were thinking about a Vision turbo package! Anyone? Anyone?

Lloyd


Yes, I want a turbo!!
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eagle
Posted 2010-11-09 12:20 PM (#73241 - in reply to #73120)
Subject: Re: Roland Sands & Lloydz Motorworks


Cruiser

Posts: 115
Columbus, Ga
what kinda price range you talking Lloyd?
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donetracey
Posted 2010-11-09 12:35 PM (#73242 - in reply to #73226)
Subject: RE: Roland Sands & Lloydz Motorworks


Visionary

Posts: 2118
Pitt Meadows, BC Canada

Lloyd - 2010-11-09 6:59 AM If there enough interest were thinking about a Vision turbo package! Anyone? Anyone? Lloyd

Lloyd - it would have to be A HELL OF A LOT prettier than the turbo in the picture.

I would buy NOW (pre-paid) if it fitted the looks of the Vision - but NEVER buy that ugly thing on the drag bike.

And yes, I'm old enough to be responsible with the extra power - unlike some of the bad boys out there :>

 

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Fastfred
Posted 2010-11-09 1:02 PM (#73243 - in reply to #73120)
Subject: RE: Roland Sands & Lloydz Motorworks


Cruiser

Posts: 284
mansfield, MA United States
Ohhhh hell ya! My dealer (MOM?s) just got the Big Bore kit in this week for my bike and the cam's my only question would be at what point would I need to build the bottom of the engine? And would the clutch and tranny hold up under that much torque? I'm old enough that I am only doing it for the gas mileage.

Disclaimer: The last line was for my wife! I want to blow the doors off my Harley friends!!!
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hottierod
Posted 2010-11-09 1:50 PM (#73244 - in reply to #73226)
Subject: RE: Roland Sands & Lloydz Motorworks


Tourer

Posts: 348
Sturbridge, Mass
Lloyd - 2010-11-09 9:59 AM

If there enough interest were thinking about a Vision turbo package! Anyone? Anyone?

Lloyd


This......

+1

As always- details, details....
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XRsteve
Posted 2010-11-09 5:18 PM (#73255 - in reply to #73120)
Subject: Re: Roland Sands & Lloydz Motorworks


Visionary

Posts: 2300
Georgia, west of Atlanta
Lloyd, start doing the homework. I believe a well packaged turbo would be a huge seller..........
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Lotzafun
Posted 2010-11-09 7:38 PM (#73260 - in reply to #73120)
Subject: Re: Roland Sands & Lloydz Motorworks


Iron Butt

Posts: 935
Rockford, IL
Turbo....on a Vision?

Not that I could or would question Llloyd's abilities..................but I'd really like to see how this could possibly be done.

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rdbudd
Posted 2010-11-10 11:29 AM (#73286 - in reply to #73260)
Subject: Re: Roland Sands & Lloydz Motorworks


Visionary

Posts: 1632
Jasper, MO
A setup like the Turbo Connection unit for the Triumph Rocket III would be cool. They mount the turbo under the bike in the space formerly occupied by the exhaust crossover pipe. It's very nearly hidden from view. The Vision's oil filter location may be in the way though. The turbo Rocket III puts down 200 horsepower( at 5500 RPM) and 215 TQ (at 3750 RPM)at the wheel from an otherwise stock motor. Their HD V-Rod turbo kit generates 170 HP at the wheel. 150 HP/160TQ from a stock Vision should be easy with a turbo.

http://www.boostisgood.com/RocketIII/index.htm
http://www.boostisgood.com/RocketIII/dsc00573.jpg

Ronnie

Edited by rdbudd 2010-11-10 11:46 AM
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XRsteve
Posted 2010-11-10 1:18 PM (#73290 - in reply to #73286)
Subject: Re: Roland Sands & Lloydz Motorworks


Visionary

Posts: 2300
Georgia, west of Atlanta
Now that is a super clean installation !!!!
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XRsteve
Posted 2010-11-10 8:47 PM (#73297 - in reply to #73120)
Subject: Re: Roland Sands & Lloydz Motorworks


Visionary

Posts: 2300
Georgia, west of Atlanta
This could be the "Next Big Thing" A turbo system could be prety well hidden behind the Visions bodywork. It would take some engineering, the plumbing from the turbo through an intercooler and then through the frame to the intakes and the FI throttle bodies is gonna take some real fabricating, if possible I bet Lloyd can come up with the solution............
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XRsteve
Posted 2010-11-10 8:54 PM (#73298 - in reply to #73120)
Subject: Re: Roland Sands & Lloydz Motorworks


Visionary

Posts: 2300
Georgia, west of Atlanta
One more thing I read the abbreviated article on the Roland Sands web site, does anyone know how much boost is being used to make the 214 RWHP ?? I'm also wondering if the heads were O-ringed, I think that would be a must above 14 PSI.................
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lil vic
Posted 2010-11-15 9:13 PM (#73578 - in reply to #73120)
Subject: Re: Roland Sands & Lloydz Motorworks


Cruiser

Posts: 50
hudson, IL United States
now to turn you mind what about a super charger? i know i would rather have a charger then a turbo on a low rpm torque bike. i would only want a turbo on a high rpm race bike. i just think that a charger with the power there all the time and not having to rev it up for power would be better for a big bike like the vision to get off the line quicker.
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Prostreet1
Posted 2010-11-17 11:38 AM (#73709 - in reply to #73578)
Subject: Re: Roland Sands & Lloydz Motorworks


Cruiser

Posts: 184
Allen Park, MI
lil vic - 2010-11-15 10:13 PM

now to turn you mind what about a super charger? i know i would rather have a charger then a turbo on a low rpm torque bike. i would only want a turbo on a high rpm race bike. i just think that a charger with the power there all the time and not having to rev it up for power would be better for a big bike like the vision to get off the line quicker.


+1
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VisionTex
Posted 2010-11-17 12:34 PM (#73715 - in reply to #73709)
Subject: Re: Roland Sands & Lloydz Motorworks


Visionary

Posts: 1484
LaPorte,Tx.
The Vision motor is not really a low rpm motor and will freely rev up to 5500 rpm and beyond in some cases. On the highway at 50 mph in 5th, close to 2500 rpm, with the turbo technology of today, whacking open the throttle at the rpm is going to give you a torque curve that goes straight up. That is what's going to launch you for your two lane highway pass, for a touring motorcycle, that's what I want. For a line launch, hold the throttle at 2500, and don't drop the clutch, get it off the line then dump it. There is a learning curve when you have a turbo bike, but it is a smile generator, just remember to hang on!
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dr_reloader
Posted 2010-11-17 6:39 PM (#73754 - in reply to #73120)
Subject: Re: Roland Sands & Lloydz Motorworks


Tourer

Posts: 537
, FL United States
Mmm, Turrrbbbooooooooooooooooo
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Arkainzeye
Posted 2016-06-26 5:38 AM (#184992 - in reply to #73120)
Subject: Re: Roland Sands & Lloydz Motorworks


Visionary

Posts: 3773
Pittsburgh, PA
How ugly would a turbo look on a vision and or will the body work be a major obstruction ?
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Arkainzeye
Posted 2016-06-26 5:41 AM (#184993 - in reply to #73120)
Subject: Re: Roland Sands & Lloydz Motorworks


Visionary

Posts: 3773
Pittsburgh, PA
I've never ever had a problem passing anyone on a highway , even while riding 2 up and I don't even have cams .... here is the torque curve of a stock vision with just mufflers and fuel controller
http://lloydz.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/S1L1-VIP.jpg.





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92cmark
Posted 2016-06-26 6:15 AM (#184994 - in reply to #73120)
Subject: Re: Roland Sands & Lloydz Motorworks


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 39
YES LLOYD I WILL BE THERE IN FALL. I NEED A SUPER CHARGER NO WAIT MAKE THAT A TURBO CHARGER PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

YOUR 13 YEAR CUSTOMER AND MOTOR NUMBER 5
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92cmark
Posted 2016-06-26 6:19 AM (#184995 - in reply to #73120)
Subject: Re: Roland Sands & Lloydz Motorworks


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 39
IS THAT A YES LLOYD????????

I WILL DO YOUR WIFE"S DISHES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Edited by 92cmark 2016-06-26 6:19 AM
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Arkainzeye
Posted 2016-06-26 10:10 AM (#185000 - in reply to #73120)
Subject: Re: Roland Sands & Lloydz Motorworks


Visionary

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Pittsburgh, PA
Huh?
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92cmark
Posted 2016-06-26 11:41 AM (#185002 - in reply to #73120)
Subject: Re: Roland Sands & Lloydz Motorworks


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 39
personal joke i stay at his house and 1 year i did all dishes from party. his wife came home from work and they were done so NOW loves me!!!!!!
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johnnyvision
Posted 2016-06-27 5:59 PM (#185016 - in reply to #73120)
Subject: Re: Roland Sands & Lloydz Motorworks


Visionary

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supper charger is great design. If you brake the belt the motor still run like normal
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