Ignition switch recall - 03-14-08
Breaker
Posted 2008-03-30 12:57 AM (#7553)
Subject: Ignition switch recall - 03-14-08


Iron Butt

Posts: 732
Western WA
Just a heads up, I searched and couldn't find this posted on the site.

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NHTSA Campaign ID: 08V131000
Component: Electrical System: Ignition: Switch
Manufacturer: Polaris Industries, INC.
Recall Date: 03/14/2008

Defect Summary:

Polaris is recalling 1,585 model year 2008 Victory Vision motorcycles. The electrical contact plate on the ignition switch base may not be properly secured to the ignition switch body, which can cause an unexpected loss of electrical power to the vehicle.

Consequence Summary:

A loss of electrical power could cause the vehicle to stall, increasing the risk of a loss of control and a vehicle crash.

Corrective Summary:

Dealers will fully secure the ignition switch base to the switch body. The recall is expected to begin during March 2008. Owners may contact Polaris/Victory at 1-888-704-5290.

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Found at:

http://motorcycleviews.com/recalls/rec08v131000.htm

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Jedi Jeff
Posted 2008-03-30 8:25 AM (#7557 - in reply to #7553)
Subject: RE: Ignition switch recall - 03-14-08


Fountain Inn, SC United States
Thanks Breaker, I've added it to our recall page.

Hope to have the RSS Feed set up at some point to automatically inform us of a recall.


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Newfie
Posted 2008-03-30 12:52 PM (#7567 - in reply to #7553)
Subject: RE: Ignition switch recall - 03-14-08


Cruiser

Posts: 174
Edmonton, AB
One interesting thing about this recall notice is that we now know there were at least 1585 Visions manufactured for 2008. This is likely the closest "estimate" we have received so for for total production numbers.
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Breaker
Posted 2008-03-30 2:37 PM (#7571 - in reply to #7553)
Subject: Re: Ignition switch recall - 03-14-08


Iron Butt

Posts: 732
Western WA
You're welcome JAM, and thanks for putting that up. I just happened to stumble across the info last night and thought it might be helpful. A RSS from the site would be great!

Newfile, I thought the same thing about the production numbers. I had asked in another thread if anyone knew how many Visions had been produced to date. I think this recall gives us a good idea.
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Jedi Jeff
Posted 2008-03-30 9:09 PM (#7581 - in reply to #7567)
Subject: RE: Ignition switch recall - 03-14-08


Fountain Inn, SC United States
Newfie - 2008-03-30 12:52 PM

One interesting thing about this recall notice is that we now know there were at least 1585 Visions manufactured for 2008. This is likely the closest "estimate" we have received so for for total production numbers.



Yes, I thought that as well. That's 1585 Visions over 43 weeks, or about 37/week. That extrapolates out to 1924/year, much higher than previously estimated.
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Spock
Posted 2008-04-02 11:15 PM (#7766 - in reply to #7581)
Subject: RE: Ignition switch recall - 03-14-08


Tourer

Posts: 495
Carrollton, TX

JAM - 2008-03-30 8:09 PM Newfie - 2008-03-30 12:52 PM One interesting thing about this recall notice is that we now know there were at least 1585 Visions manufactured for 2008. This is likely the closest "estimate" we have received so for for total production numbers. Yes, I thought that as well. That's 1585 Visions over 43 weeks, or about 37/week. That extrapolates out to 1924/year, much higher than previously estimated.

I was told by a past Victory executive who left Victory in September of last year that the plan was to produce between 3,00 and 3,500 Vision's the first year. I was told this week by another current Victory executive that the Vision has done so well they have increased production over their previous plan.  

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SongFan
Posted 2008-04-02 11:50 PM (#7769 - in reply to #7553)
Subject: RE: Ignition switch recall - 03-14-08


Visionary

Posts: 3204
Memphis
I asked my dealer about the recall today and he hadn't heard anything about it. He got on the computer and couldn't find anything except the voltage regulator recall. I went to the NHTSA and couldn't find anything on it. Something should be there if it went into effect March 14th. The number looks legit, just doesn't show up anywhere except motorcycleviews.com.
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Breaker
Posted 2008-04-03 12:10 AM (#7770 - in reply to #7553)
Subject: Re: Ignition switch recall - 03-14-08


Iron Butt

Posts: 732
Western WA
It was buried deep, SongFan but I found it on the NHTSA:

http://www-odi.nhtsa.dot.gov/recalls/recallsearch.cfm

Just plug in 08V131000 in the Campaign ID search box.

Also, from the same page you can drill down through 'type', 'year', 'make', etc. and it shows up with the alternator/generator/regulator recall.

Edited by Breaker 2008-04-03 12:16 AM
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SongFan
Posted 2008-04-03 12:13 AM (#7771 - in reply to #7553)
Subject: RE: Ignition switch recall - 03-14-08


Visionary

Posts: 3204
Memphis
Got it.  Thanks Breaker.
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Mudge
Posted 2008-04-12 12:25 PM (#8294 - in reply to #7771)
Subject: RE: Ignition switch recall - 03-14-08


Tourer

Posts: 354
20 miles west of Chicago.
Got the official recall letter 04/10. Dealer has recieved the necessary parts and I will be taking it in Tuesday or Wednesday to have the fix done. Anxious to see if it cures the engine stopping on decel problem, which has been happening less often lately, but still does happen. Under some traffic conditions those rolling re-starts can be a little hairy.

Edited by Mudge 2008-04-12 12:27 PM
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devilboy
Posted 2008-04-12 12:57 PM (#8295 - in reply to #8294)
Subject: RE: Ignition switch recall - 03-14-08


Cruiser

Posts: 296
Central Florida
Mine was done yesterday along with audiofirmware 4.13 update.
Ipod works great and ignition still works same as before.
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Len Rhymes
Posted 2008-04-12 6:09 PM (#8314 - in reply to #7553)
Subject: Re: Ignition switch recall - 03-14-08


Jacksonville Florida
My dealer went into the dealers system network today per my request and the recall is there. The service manager said that when they receive a new bike they put the vin # in their system and all recalls that apply to that vin pop up, then they fix them and give you a print out of what was done.
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PalmBeachRider
Posted 2008-04-12 8:43 PM (#8323 - in reply to #7557)
Subject: RE: Ignition switch recall - 03-14-08


Cruiser

Posts: 256
Florida
How do you get to the Recall Page directly? I don't see an item in the menu for this.
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Bearcat
Posted 2008-04-13 12:02 AM (#8347 - in reply to #7553)
Subject: Re: Ignition switch recall - 03-14-08


Cruiser

Posts: 173
Prescott Valley, AZ
I got the recall notice from Polaris in today's mail, so keep your eye's on the mail. I'll call the dealer on Monday to schedule the fix.

Ride Safe, Ride Often!!
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VisionTex
Posted 2008-04-16 1:03 PM (#8580 - in reply to #8347)
Subject: Re: Ignition switch recall - 03-14-08


Visionary

Posts: 1484
LaPorte,Tx.
I was at the service department last week getting 5000 mile service, and told them about the recall. They looked it up on the computer and said they need a part to make the repairs and that would have to be ordered. They would let me know when it arrived and I'd have to bring the bike back in. On Monday, I got the notice in the mail from Victory, it did not mention any part needed and said it would take service to do the recall service in 15 minutes. Does anyone know for sure if it really needs a part, or is service blowing smoke again! If there is not part needed, now I'm because now I have to go back.
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Codfather
Posted 2008-04-16 1:47 PM (#8581 - in reply to #7553)
Subject: Re: Ignition switch recall - 03-14-08


Cruiser

Posts: 103
Vision Tex I was told the same thing by my dealer. The notice doesn't say a thing about a part.
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Miles
Posted 2008-04-16 2:08 PM (#8582 - in reply to #8323)
Subject: RE: Ignition switch recall - 03-14-08


Tourer

Posts: 547
Mount Vernon, WA United States
PalmBeachRider - 2008-04-12 8:43 PM

How do you get to the Recall Page directly? I don't see an item in the menu for this.



Just go to the Tech-Corner from the home page.
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Mudge
Posted 2008-04-16 4:43 PM (#8590 - in reply to #8582)
Subject: RE: Ignition switch recall - 03-14-08


Tourer

Posts: 354
20 miles west of Chicago.
I just had the recall done last Tuesday. The dealer told me that a part was neccessary and he had them. I have no reason to disbelieve him.
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graybeard
Posted 2008-04-16 5:31 PM (#8592 - in reply to #7553)
Subject: Re: Ignition switch recall - 03-14-08


Cruiser

Posts: 177
NW Illinois
10-4 on that Mudge had mine done yesterday and I saw the part given to the mech
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Mudge
Posted 2008-04-16 6:00 PM (#8594 - in reply to #8592)
Subject: Re: Ignition switch recall - 03-14-08


Tourer

Posts: 354
20 miles west of Chicago.
Check, and at the same place I think.
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PalmBeachRider
Posted 2008-04-16 7:06 PM (#8597 - in reply to #7553)
Subject: Re: Ignition switch recall - 03-14-08


Cruiser

Posts: 256
Florida
I was told the same thing...that a part is needed. It strikes me as strange that since Victory knows exactly how many Visions have been sold and from which dealers, that at least a few parts weren't sent to the dealers at the time of recall. My dealer still does not have the parts and was wondering that since the notice states in bold, "Do not operate your motorcycle until all repairs have been completed," what are you guys doing? I live around 45 miles from the dealership...does that mean that the dealer needs to pickup the bike?

What are you doing in this situation? Are you riding while you wait for the parts?
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Mudge
Posted 2008-04-16 7:30 PM (#8602 - in reply to #8597)
Subject: Re: Ignition switch recall - 03-14-08


Tourer

Posts: 354
20 miles west of Chicago.
There may have been a period of time between the recognition of the problem and the receipt of the part for the fix during wich it had to be designed, manufactured and distributed to the dealerships. As for the legal caveat, we know we're going to ride the bikes in, Victory knows we're going to ride the bikes in, and even the lawyers in Victory's legal dept. know we're going to ride the bikes in. The caveat is an attempt to shift liability to the owners.; I mean, what would you do considering the circumstances? I don't know how well the caveat would hold up in a civil court however, for a couple of reasons, not the least of which is the lack of a specific offer to provide transportation of the bikes or to do the repair in situ. The whole world, and I mean everything and every institution, runs on BS.
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graybeard
Posted 2008-04-16 7:44 PM (#8604 - in reply to #7553)
Subject: Re: Ignition switch recall - 03-14-08


Cruiser

Posts: 177
NW Illinois
yes mudge I think you are correct on the dealer
and yes I rode mine from the time I got the letter early last week until I brought it in yesterday (but thats me)
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PalmBeachRider
Posted 2008-04-16 7:50 PM (#8606 - in reply to #7553)
Subject: Re: Ignition switch recall - 03-14-08


Cruiser

Posts: 256
Florida
As a C.Y.A. measure, you may consider emailing your dealer asking about picking up the bike and whether or not to ride until the parts are available. Even if you don't receive a response, you at least documented your question in writing. Let's hope that nothing happens during this period, but if so, you can state that you contacted the dealer in writing (email) and didn't receive a response. So you "assumed" (yes, I know what that means!) that it was okay to ride.
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Banjo
Posted 2008-04-16 8:45 PM (#8616 - in reply to #7553)
Subject: RE: Ignition switch recall - 03-14-08


Tourer

Posts: 319
The information I received from my dealer is that a part is needed......he said about a week the he will have them. The problem shows up on bikes with higher mileage..... if your bike is new (like mine) Ill just get it done at the first service and keep driving it untill then.
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cjnoho
Posted 2008-04-16 9:37 PM (#8626 - in reply to #7553)
Subject: Re: Ignition switch recall - 03-14-08


Visionary

Posts: 1324
So Cal
I cant say for sure, but the part may be just an extra retainer to hold the switch together. I just had the dash off a few days ago and took a look at the switch, everything looked good an tight. I cant see it comming apart before I get to the dealer on Sat.
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VisionTex
Posted 2008-04-16 9:48 PM (#8629 - in reply to #8616)
Subject: RE: Ignition switch recall - 03-14-08


Visionary

Posts: 1484
LaPorte,Tx.
When I told my service manager last week of the recall and when he pulled up on the computer, he told me is was a no ride recall and I should leave the bike. I almost laughed, but controlled myself. He then told me he had to oder the part, I asked when would the part be in his hands, he did not know.........I then told him it took 4 months to get the bike, maybe the part was a similiar delivery, he indicated Oh no much faster, I almost laughed again. The result of the recall is the motorcycle may stall........has that happened to anyone on this site, yet! Mine has stalled on me four times so far in almost 6000 miles. Anyway, got a call today, part is in, now I have to schedule another day to get it installed.
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cjnoho
Posted 2008-04-16 10:04 PM (#8633 - in reply to #7553)
Subject: Re: Ignition switch recall - 03-14-08


Visionary

Posts: 1324
So Cal
With the fed involved the manufacturer has to make every effort to make repairs in a timely manner. Usually the notice goes out before the parts are shipped to shorten the time line for repairs. I dont know about other co.s but GM knows how many vehicles involved were shipped to each dealer and automaticlly ship the correct number of parts. Our parts manager also orders a few extra to handle the out of towners and those that bought elseware.
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redtail79
Posted 2008-04-16 10:25 PM (#8636 - in reply to #7553)
Subject: Re: Ignition switch recall - 03-14-08


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 7
Deerfield, New Hampshire
my bike was in for the 500 service. Dealer called to say there was a safety recall on the ignition switch. He wouldn't get the part for two days and in the meantime I couldn't get the bike back unless I signed a safety waiver. They got the part today and it took all of fifteen minutes to install. It's just a long piece of plastic that secures the connections on the ignition switch. Anyway I back riding and loving my Vision
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metalguy
Posted 2008-04-17 3:50 PM (#8668 - in reply to #7553)
Subject: Re: Ignition switch recall - 03-14-08


Tourer

Posts: 550
Tacoma, WA
I am riding mine until I bring it in to the dealer for this repair. Mine has yet to stall, but I have noticed some missing when it is cold, which bugs me. I will be sure to mention that when I bring it in for the 5,000 mile service in about a week.-----Metalguy
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PalmBeachRider
Posted 2008-04-17 10:17 PM (#8698 - in reply to #7553)
Subject: Re: Ignition switch recall - 03-14-08


Cruiser

Posts: 256
Florida
If it's a no-ride recall, will the VRA cover towing for the bike to and from the dealership?
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CoolHandLuke
Posted 2008-04-17 11:52 PM (#8709 - in reply to #7553)
Subject: Re: Ignition switch recall - 03-14-08


Iron Butt

Posts: 849
, FL United States
Received the recall letter & took my Vis into the dealer this AM. Service dept didn't know about it so they looked it up on their computer, printed out the pages, looked at the model #'s and said "it doesn't apply to your bike". I think that is BS and will have it checked at another Victory dealer w/ a tech I trust.
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VisionTex
Posted 2008-04-18 8:35 AM (#8719 - in reply to #8709)
Subject: Re: Ignition switch recall - 03-14-08


Visionary

Posts: 1484
LaPorte,Tx.
CoolHandLuke - 2008-04-17 10:52 PM

Received the recall letter & took my Vis into the dealer this AM. Service dept didn't know about it so they looked it up on their computer, printed out the pages, looked at the model #'s and said "it doesn't apply to your bike". I think that is BS and will have it checked at another Victory dealer w/ a tech I trust.


This is amazing, a letter from Victory given to a dealer, and he said it did not apply. I just don't understand the thought process on that.
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ez chair
Posted 2008-04-18 9:22 AM (#8721 - in reply to #7553)
Subject: Re: Ignition switch recall - 03-14-08


Cruiser

Posts: 111
Maine
I have had it done. It is a plastic ring that goes under the switch, then up into the switch base. It is then held in place with a compression rubber. Repair took 30 mins with no problem. Cool Hand, I belive it is all models as the letter said. I think that is all the way up to the March built bikes.
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cjnoho
Posted 2008-04-19 1:10 AM (#8751 - in reply to #7553)
Subject: Re: Ignition switch recall - 03-14-08


Visionary

Posts: 1324
So Cal
I would call the customer service number and get a second opinion.
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cjnoho
Posted 2008-04-19 7:17 PM (#8770 - in reply to #7553)
Subject: Re: Ignition switch recall - 03-14-08


Visionary

Posts: 1324
So Cal
Recall completed today. also got the ipod update. still havind ipod problems.
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pollolittle
Posted 2008-04-20 10:31 AM (#8783 - in reply to #7553)
Subject: Re: Ignition switch recall - 03-14-08


Visionary

Posts: 2026
Brighton, TN
Well, I think this may be my problem. Don't know for sure. Intermittently , turn the switch on and the bike would turn over like it is trying to start, but no crank. Turn key off, turn key on, hit starter button and voila' bike runs. This morning go out to crank. Hit starter button, headlight goes off and everything goes blank on the dash. Hit the horn button it works. Hit the starter again and everything blanks. Cycle key switch off, then on, takes a few times but it fires off. I get the little battery light with exclamation on it lit up. Stays on for a bit then off. Well now, I'm off and running, pull into convenience store to refill Dr Pepper tank, they're not taking my free coupon, so I throw hands up in a depleted caffeinated way, shrug shoulders mumble to self and walk out with no DP. What a rough morning so far. Saddle up and bike fires right off. Under way, and about to get on the onramp to the freeway. MP3 quits playing, then I notice radio has now gone dead. Bike shudders and I notice it shut off too for a second, then it fires back up and radio is back on. Little nervous hit the onramp no problems, accelerate up to speed on freeway and bike gets to bucking and backfiring like a lightly irritated bull, this is not something I prefer to do at 70. So, I catch the next off ramp and pull into gas station. Pull in clutch, bike is idling at 1500-1800 rpm's. I just kill it out of frustration. Hop off and check battery connections, all good nothing loose. Start it back up, idle is back down around 1000 rpm. Radio is now working. Bike is shutting off and radio shuts off intermittently quite a bit before I get to work. One spot, I pull in clutch down shift a couple, release clutch, rear tire lights off like I had just locked it up. Took me a second before I pull the clutch back in, engine no running. Give it a second and pop the clutch to see if it would light the engine back off, apparently it does but not without a little hint of disgruntledness. Get all the way to work and now after writing this not quite sure if this is the problem after all. I guess it all depends on how many wires plug into that switch and what they control. Maybe!
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VisionTex
Posted 2008-04-20 1:54 PM (#8796 - in reply to #8770)
Subject: Re: Ignition switch recall - 03-14-08


Visionary

Posts: 1484
LaPorte,Tx.
cjnoho - 2008-04-19 6:17 PM

Recall completed today. also got the ipod update. still havind ipod problems.


Was in yesterday and got the recall done.......took all of 15 minutes. I also asked about the updates on the I-pod (radio) controls, service manager didn't know about any. So I asked him to send e-mail to Victory on update, he did that while I was standing there. So he should know soon, sometimes you have to prod them into doing stuff that will help.
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cjnoho
Posted 2008-04-22 12:01 AM (#8924 - in reply to #7553)
Subject: Re: Ignition switch recall - 03-14-08


Visionary

Posts: 1324
So Cal
Others have had the ipod update and have no problem. I never use it off the Vision. Im starting to wonder if my ipod is to blame?
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CoolHandLuke
Posted 2008-04-22 8:08 PM (#8943 - in reply to #7553)
Subject: Re: Ignition switch recall - 03-14-08


Iron Butt

Posts: 849
, FL United States
Had the recall done by none other than the Victory Guru himself, Kevinx of Polaris of Gainesville yesterday. Took abt 15 mins. Kevin also said to wait for update 4.18 that the Vic Techs are working on now. Ipod update 4.13 doesn't "fix" everything. So I'll wait.
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