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Tourer
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Akron Ohio area | When purchasing my new Vision, my dealer spoke to the Factory Rep right in front of me and stated that the lower air deflectors should be standard equipment. I ordered them because of past experiences riding Harley's in the desert and burning my thighs. My only concern with them is that they are attached with adhesive. (16 hour cure time) The Vision test ride mule on the Victory Truck had the lowers installed, but according to the truck driver, they through bolted them. (they also had a sign saying not to use your feet to adjust them) What are your thoughts, pro and con. You can add to the poll and choose multiple answers. |
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Iron Butt
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Peachtree City, GA | Have them on my wife's Vision - she likes them - except on hot days when a rain show shows up... gets wet.
I on the other hand - think they take away from the bike and don't really want them... As for the heat - I have been out several time in 107 degree weather - yea - it is hot - it really doesn't matter - I was hot anyway...
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Iron Butt
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North Orange County CA | Dont have the deflectors -
I'm in the AGAT crowd so I usually have my Chippewa Rally boots on - these boots have 16" tall padded tops sort of like a motocross boot without the armor plating - and I had never really noticed any uncomfortable heat on my legs. I know its warm but not skin roasting warm.
Couple of weeks ago (the day before LA hit the 113 degree record) the thermometer at my house was reading 110, I wore a pair of 8" work boots to run to the hardware store on the bike to pick up some galvanized nails for a siding project I was doing (yeah, I know "only mad dogs & englishmen..........." .
NOW, I know what you guys are complaining about. OUCH! The deflectors probably wouldn't have helped a bit with all those traffic signals but the boots I normally wear have apparently made a huge difference. |
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Puddle Jumper
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High Ridge, Mo. | They're ugly. They're cooler in the summer and warmer in the winter. Wouldn't be without them, but they're ugly. |
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Tourer
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Troy, NY | I have them and wouldn't know what to do if I didn't. They are great in the Spring & Fall in the mornings keeping me warm and do a great job in the summer. I read about the using your feet issue.......so I just adjust them with my hands. I had them for a year and have had absolutely no problems. I don't think they look to bad since they are clear.
Edited by adirondacks 2010-10-11 5:30 PM
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Puddle Jumper
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| I have them and I had them painted the color of my Vision.
IMHO the clear plastic looks cheap on a $20k motorcycle.
Someone sells them in metal also painted. If and when mine fail I will get the metal ones. |
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Cruiser
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Akron, Ohio | adirondacks - 2010-10-11 6:28 PM
I have them and wouldn't know what to do if I didn't. They are great in the Spring & Fall in the mornings keeping me warm and do a great job in the summer. I read about the using your feet issue.......so I just adjust them with my hands. I had them for a year and have had absolutely no problems. I don't think they look to bad since they are clear.
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Puddle Jumper
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Lynchburg Virginia | I have them and would'nt want to run without them again. Heat, cold, or rain they do work!
Edited by BLK08 2010-10-11 7:52 PM
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Visionary
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San Antonio, TX | BLK08 - 2010-10-11 7:42 PM
I have them and would'nt want to run without them again. Heat, cold, or rain they do work!
+1 that sums up my feelings on the issue.
Ride Safe!
Edited by radioteacher 2010-10-11 9:09 PM
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Iron Butt
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| I have them and prefer the clear. It is the best of two evils, to me having on the painted plastic or powder coated replacements offered by CycleOps takes away from the looks and lines of the Vision more than the clear ones do. That said, if I happen to break my factory clear plastic deflectors I will probably replace them the the CycleOps black powder coated replacements. |
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Iron Butt
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Northeast Ohio | I have a set. Had them painted to match the bike. Took them off after a month of use because of the looks. Contemplating putting them back on.  |
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Cruiser
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| We bought a used 2008 Vision which was our first big tour bike. It was ...black....and we had it done in alllll black before delivery. It came with lower air deflectors and I hated the look. I tried to remove them, but found they were not bolted on but had an adhesive.........strong adhesive at least on ours. We started using them and both of us found them to be very effective at what they are designed for........redirecting airflow...........we got used to the added comfort they provided in the summer and this fall. Over time the plexiglass look didnt seem so look as bad it did originally........and no one ever comment on them being ugly.......though I think most thought this just like we did the first time we saw the bike. I then removed the plexiglass part on each side and just had the black mounting items showing.........much better looking, but it was at this point we realized in the heat of summer just how much comfort they provided.......so back on they went Then I decided to have the sign shop that does some great creative work for me on other projects do the outside in black plastic vinyl.......and even went as far as have a Made in America included ...here is a link to check artwork on this. https://backup.filesanywhere.com/fs/v.aspx?v=896b638e605e6eb2a666 It was not to be..........while we were working on the vinyl design.... the plexiglass lower on the right side near one of the holes fractured....... which then had me talking to Will at Cycle Opps for their metal lowers which is the course this will be heading. Long story here I guess, but this is one of those cases in my view where the functionalty of the lowers and riding comfort range they provide trumps the looks..........though l wish they did look better. .
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Visionary
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LaPorte,Tx. | I did not have the lowers for the first two years, I really did not like the looks either. But early this year I decided I would try them for the benifit of heat removal. I found they worked really well in cold weather. On the ride to Daytona in Feb. they worked great to keep me warm. This summer, I've found that they do cool down the back of my right leg which is where I feel most of the motor-exhaust heat.
Edited by VisionTex 2010-10-12 8:25 AM
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Cruiser
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West Knoxville TN | I love the way my color matched metal lowers and uppers from CycleOps look on the Ocean Blue bike. And they are very efficient at directing air onto or off of you. I give them 2 thumbs up.
Edited by Candyman 2010-10-12 10:29 AM
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Cruiser
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Pittsburgh, PA | I would like to buy a set but I wanted the metal black painted ones to match. Why is it that no one sells the hinge part. CycleOps only sells replacements for after you clear ones break. Seems to me to be a waste of money to buy the clear ones just for the mounting system things. |
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Tourer
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Goldsboro, NC | ScoreBo - 2010-10-11 11:17 PM
I have a set. Had them painted to match the bike. Took them off after a month of use because of the looks. Contemplating putting them back on. Don't do that. They're ugly as a bucketful of armpits. Sell them instead. To me. Cheap.
My dad lives in Erie... I'll send him over. |
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Cruiser
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Prairie Dog Heaven, CO | Have them. Like them. They work great. They look OK. If you don't manhandle them they will likely last a while. |
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Tourer
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N. Miami, Florida | taz456 - 2010-10-12 11:53 AM I would like to buy a set but I wanted the metal black painted ones to match. Why is it that no one sells the hinge part. CycleOps only sells replacements for after you clear ones break. Seems to me to be a waste of money to buy the clear ones just for the mounting system things. Because the hinges are 95% of the cost of the OEM kit, that's why. The platic deflectors themselves cost them pennies to make (Kuryakyn makes the kits for Vic in China). The hinges are four completely separate bases, not to mention all require tedious welding to duplicate on a moderate level compared to the high volume low labor cost Chinese parts. The cost of making all the separate molds is very costly, as would be CNCing them with the high set up and fixturing costs making small runs incur a high cost per part. The cost of making them here in the US is about equal to the cost of you guys just buying the entire factory kit at a discount online dealer where the entire deflector kit will cost you $200 including shipping instead of $250 plus tax at your local dealer. |
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Tourer
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| Or you could make friends with a demo truck driver. Have him give you a set of hardware then get Will to color match a set for you! |
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Visionary
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| Here is what one of the riders did. He said no more heat. But then when it gets cold long johns. He only did the right side where the heat comes off the header pipe. Maybe yes maybe no that for you to decide.
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Iron Butt
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Anderson, IN (48mi NE of downtown Indianapolis) | I rode one summer and one winter without them. I was hesitant to get them because of the looks. I didn't think they were ugly, I just didn't think they looked as good as the rest of the bike. I took a chance and installed a set. They are absolutely the best addition I have made on the Vision. Not for looks, but for function. I can ride all winter long now without changing my footwear. I also found my feet stay dryer in the rainy months. Anything that lengthens my riding season is worth having to me. If I was a fair weather rider I probably would not want to distract from the lines of the bike with the deflectors. However, since I ride all year 0~100 degrees rain or shine, the deflectors are as good as gold to me. Now that I have used them I would not ride without them. |
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Puddle Jumper
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| Splurged and got the originals then ordered the Cyclops replacements. These are much better. I can push and pull them with my boots without worrying about cracking the plastic. Have the uppers as well. They keep the heat off well, they deflect some air up to the rider and the passenger, and they especially keep the heat in when it is cold. I'm not crazy about how it makes the bike looks, but I traded the customized Jackpot for this so I could ride longer and my wife could be more comfortable. I got the Cyclops uppers a month ago, so I'll be mounting those as well. |
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Cruiser
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REXBURG IDAHO | just solved the heat and cold problem with some louvers i will be getting the pic on this site real soon.
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Cruiser
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Sturbridge, Ma | I have a set brand new clear to sell if anyone is interested...just the lowers NO CLIPS...$80 including shipping. |
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Iron Butt
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Central New York | radioteacher - 2010-10-11 10:08 PM BLK08 - 2010-10-11 7:42 PM I have them and would'nt want to run without them again. Heat, cold, or rain they do work! +1 that sums up my feelings on the issue. Ride Safe!+1
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Puddle Jumper
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| I just bought a holdover VV. and had the lowers installed before i picked up the bike...IMHO they are the best option for the bike, the only thing I'd like to see them improve on the quality by making them heavy enough to be adjustable with your feet. Maybe they could be made of metal as std issue and with a ratchet type adjustment, adjustable per-click, if you will... I removed and sparyed the inside of the clear plastic with black paint, much less obtrusive on the bikes clean lines, using KRYLON paint for plastic, follow the instructions it worked wonderfully and I also painted the uppers, same procedure... Good Luck... |
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Tourer
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N. Miami, Florida | ScottMorgan - 2010-11-26 10:05 AM I just bought a holdover VV. and had the lowers installed before i picked up the bike...IMHO they are the best option for the bike, the only thing I'd like to see them improve on the quality by making them heavy enough to be adjustable with your feet. Maybe they could be made of metal as std issue and with a ratchet type adjustment, adjustable per-click, if you will... I removed and sparyed the inside of the clear plastic with black paint, much less obtrusive on the bikes clean lines, using KRYLON paint for plastic, follow the instructions it worked wonderfully and I also painted the uppers, same procedure... Good Luck... Hey there Scott, congrats on the new scoot. There's no need for the factory to do them in metal as I already offer them in billet aluminum in may color powder coats as well as chrome sets. We also offer matching uppers too. Many members here have them and I'm sure they'll chime in and give you the skinny on them. Member price in gloss black is only $135 for lowers . Actually, right now we're running a sale through Midnight Saturday. As for adjustablilty, you can set the tension on the hinges with an allen key.
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N. Miami, Florida | ScottMorgan - 2010-11-26 10:05 AM I just bought a holdover VV. and had the lowers installed before i picked up the bike...IMHO they are the best option for the bike, the only thing I'd like to see them improve on the quality by making them heavy enough to be adjustable with your feet. Maybe they could be made of metal as std issue and with a ratchet type adjustment, adjustable per-click, if you will... I removed and sparyed the inside of the clear plastic with black paint, much less obtrusive on the bikes clean lines, using KRYLON paint for plastic, follow the instructions it worked wonderfully and I also painted the uppers, same procedure... Good Luck... Hey there Scott, congrats on the new scoot. There's no need for the factory to do them in metal as I already offer them in billet aluminum in may color powder coats as well as chrome sets. We also offer matching uppers too. Many members here have them and I'm sure they'll chime in and give you the skinny on them. Member price in gloss black is only $135 for lowers . Actually, right now we're running a sale through Midnight SaturdayAs for adjustablilty, you can set the tension on the hinges with an allen key. |
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Tourer
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N. Miami, Florida | Just came out with a new color match for thenew sliver metallic bike deflectors. Heavy silver flake powder coat with clear powder topcoat. Other stocked metalflake colors we stock are: Midnight Cherry, Ocean Blue, Antares Red (10th Anniversary), SSG, Pearl White. Of course there's also gloss black, and matte or satin black by special order. CLICK HERE to see all colors in a slide show as well as mounted pics. Chrome also available. Here's a new silver metallic set. 
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Iron Butt
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Tri Cities, WA | Bluegill - 2010-10-11 1:58 PM
They're ugly. They're cooler in the summer and warmer in the winter. Wouldn't be without them, but they're ugly.
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