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OHIO | With just under 15,000 miles on my tires, I am in need of replacements, especially the rear.  I will be going the car tire route. My questions are: 195/55 will fit without any issues,,, correct? I do not have a hitch, nor do I plan on one, and the bike is stock height. Did any of you that went this route have any issues getting the tire mounted and balanced? Did you take your new tire and wheel somewhere to have it mounted and balanced and they told you they could not do it because it is a car tire??? I plan to take the tire/wheel off and take it somewhere to have the new one put on, but don't want to run into issues with getting it mounted since it is a car tire. Thanks, |
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OHIO | Since posting this, I have been on tirerack looking at tires. http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Kumho&tireModel=Ec...
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Fargo, ND |
I have that tire on mine. I also have a hitch. I've got about 10,000 happy miles with no problems. I purchased tire mounting and balancing equipment from harbor freight and have been mounting and balancing my own tires for a while now.
If I did not have my own equipment I would remove the rear wheel and rotor from my bike and take it, along with my new car tire to a shop and have them mount and balance my 'trailer tire' and I will 'be back tomorrow with the other wheel and tire'...assuming you don't know of a shop that will mount the car tire on a bike wheel...some will, some won't.
Good Luck!
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OHIO | Flatsix,
I was under the impression that you could only go 185 with a hitch and 195 without. I want to go the same height as orginal tire, but as wide as possible without interference. Will something wider than a 55 fit??? |
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| Bridgestone Potenza 195/55 with 10,000 miles on it. No problems. Yes, there is a difference in cornering, but I got use to it. Yes, the tire will follow the road more, but I got use to that also. There were a few darksiders at the AVR this year. I was in a parking lot and a guy in a car rolled down his window and asked me about running a car tire. He said he did it on his bikes also. |
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orrick, mo | You might get a mom and pop shop to mount your tire. Thats what I did. They never heard of it and didn't care. Just happy to get my biz. I'm running a 195/55 potenza and have almost 16000 miles on it since April and it still looks and handles great. Try dyna-beads for balancing. Check them out at
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Rockford, IL | Max size with a hitch is 185/55/16 and have no rubbing issues
Max size without a hitch is 195/55/16 and have no rubbing issues.
Going anything larger than these two sizes are you are being a guinea pig. If so, please report your findings here on the site.
I had a local mechanic shop mount my car tire, no problems whatsoever. I've been told by two different people that the local HD dealer will mount a car tire, however this is only after you agree on videotape that you accept liability and waive all rights to sue or anything.
I'm a hair over 6000 miles on my Potenza and have absolutely zero regrets with going this route. |
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Salisbury, NC | Over 20,000 on the Kumo, almost down to the wear bars. Had the local tire shop mount it and have dyna=beads for the next tire I put on it. ET
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Pittsburgh, PA | i recently went to the darkside on my vision. i did this about 2 weeks ago after getting a flat on a sunday night in a scary part of Pittsburgh! i was sick and tired of throwing money at these tires that dont last. i went with the 195/55 as well but i didnt order any tires as i was in a Rush! i found a 195/55 in stock at pepboys. its a sports type time. the brand is hankook. $94 so far in 700 miles the tire has been great. 400 of those miles were twisties in WV. i went to a little motorcycle shop that does alot of service work and they had NO problem putting the tire on for me and even balancing it. they said i wasnt the first person they installed a car tire for. They said so far it seems to be the heavy touring bikes that are going this route.. it cost me $22 to mount and balance the wheel. then i went home and install the wheel to the scooter. |
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Salisbury, NC | <p> beShop By Other Michelin Tires In This Size Primacy HP ZP Primacy Alpin PA3 ZP X-Ice Xi2 Brands In This Size Bridgestone Continental Dunlop Firestone Goodyear Hankook Kumho Michelin Pirelli Yokohama Primacy HP ZP(Grand Touring Summer) Sidewall Style: Blackwall Click thumbnails to view above. Most approximate photos shown View Full Screen Photo. Size: 195/55R16 RunFlat Sidewall Style: Blackwall Serv. Desc: 87V Load Index 87 = 1201lbs (545kg) per tire Speed Rating ?V? = 149mph (240kph) UTQG: Treadwear: 240 Traction: A Temperature: A240 A A Price: $196.00 (each) Estimated Availability: In Stock Qty: 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 Optional Road Hazard Program: Add $23.52 per tire Add Road Hazard: $94.08 Set of 4: $784.00 Important Notes Product Description Other Sizes & Pricing Specs Reviews Warranty Lea en espa?ol Read this page in English The Primacy HP ZP (Zero Pressure technology) is Michelin's Grand Touring Summer run-flat tire developed to provide long tread life and lasting performance, as well as enhanced braking, steering control and handling on wet roads. The Primacy HP ZP also offers temporary extended mobility (up to 50 miles at 50 mph) in the event a puncture results in complete air loss for current BMW 3 Series sedans, coupes, cabriolets and wagons and Z4 roadsters, as well as MINI Cooper and Cooper S hatchbacks and convertibles featuring Original Equipment self-supporting run-flat tires. Selected sizes of the Primacy HP ZP meet Michelin's Green X standard* for low rolling resistance that confirms the tire's contribution to reducing vehicle fuel consumption and emissions of CO2 gases. While Primacy HP ZP tires are designed to offer reliable traction in dry and wet conditions, they are not intended to be driven in near-freezing temperatures, through snow or on ice. Primacy HP ZP tires benefit from Michelin design innovations known as A.S.M. (Architecture, Sculpture and Materials) reflecting Michelin's ability to focus simultaneously on three fundamental factors that determine a tire's capabilities. Using their A.S.M. design method, Michelin can develop tires that combine an architecture that deforms more easily to optimize contact with the road, a tread design sculpture that remains rigid so more of the footprint contributes to performance, and unique tread compound materials precisely blended by Michelin's mixing technology. Primacy HP ZP tires use a new generation Michelin tread compound molded into an asymmetric tread design that features large, linked shoulder blocks, notched intermediate ribs and a solid center rib to combine responsive handling and high-speed stability with traction and even treadwear. The Primacy HP ZP tire's structure includes twin steel belts reinforced by size-optimized BAZ Technology (spiral-wrapped Polyamide Banded At Zero degrees to tire rotation) to enhance ride quality while providing high-speed durability. Sidewall reinforcement using low hysteresis rubber provides self-supporting strength at zero pressure, helps combat sidewall damage, and maintains cool temperatures to allow longer zero pressure driving while a special bead design helps tires stay securely seated on conventional rims. *The application of the Green X symbol is determined by laboratory testing on a model-by-model, size-by-size basis. Specific sizes branded with the Green X symbol are identified as such on the SIZES & PRICING page, as well as the tire's SPECS page. El neum?tico Primacy HP ZP (utiliza la tecnolog?a de cero presi?n, ZP por sus siglas en ingl?s) pertenece al grupo Gran Turismo Para Verano y ha sido desarrollado para proveer mayor longevidad a la banda de rodamiento, un rendimiento que perdure durante el ciclo de vida del neum?tico, mejor frenado, maniobrabilidad y control sobre superficies mojadas. Adem?s puede rodar sin aire ?rueda flat? (run flat), por 50 millas (80km) a 55 mph (88 km/h), en autos sed?nes contempor?neos de la serie 3 de BMW, cup?, cabriolets, camionetas y el Z4 roadsters, los mismo que en el MINI Cooper y Cooper S y convertibles con neum?ticos de Equipo Original ?rueda flat?. Un n?mero selecto de neum?ticos Primacy HP ZP cumplen con los requisitos est?ndares Green X de Michelin*, para obtener una resistencia a rodar m?s baja, contribuyendo as? a la reducci?n de consumo de gasolina y emisiones de gases CO2. El Primacy HP ZP ofrece tracci?n confiable en condiciones secas o mojadas, sin embargo, no fue dise?ado para ser utilizado en temperaturas cercanas al nivel de congelaci?n o superficies con hielo o nieve. Los Primacy HP ZP se benefician del dise?o innovador A.S.M. (arquitectura, escultura y materiales) de Michelin y refleja la habilidad de la compa??a de enfocarse en tres factores fundamentales, que determinan la capacidad del neum?tico, simult?neamente. Al utilizar A.S.M., Michelin puede: desarrollar neum?ticos que combinan una arquitectura que se conforma o ajusta con m?s facilidad a la carretera y as? optimiza el contacto con la misma, crear una escultura en el dise?o de la superficie de la banda de rodamiento que permanece m?s r?gida, lo que contribuye a un mayor rendimiento, y combinar con precisi?n un compuesto ?nico de materiales con la tecnolog?a de mezcla de Michelin. El Primacy HP ZP utiliza una generaci?n nueva de compuesto de caucho moldeada en una banda de rodamiento con dise?o asim?trico, que cuenta con grandes bloques entrelazados en los hombros. Segmentos intermedios c?ncavos y un segmento central s?lido se combinan para ofrecer maniobrabilidad responsiva y estabilidad a velocidades elevadas, adem?s de tracci?n y un desgaste parejo. La estructura interna del Primacy HP ZP cuenta con correas de acero gemelas reforzadas con la tecnolog?a BAZ (Bandas de poliamida envuelto en espiral ubicadas a cero grados en relaci?n con la rotaci?n del neum?tico) para aumentar la calidad del andar y proveer mayor durabilidad al neum?tico a pesar de su uso a velocidades elevadas. Refuerzos en los flancos utilizan caucho con baja hist?resis para proveer la fuerza necesaria al soporta el veh?culo, cuando el neum?tico pierde aire parcial o totalmente. Este refuerzo adem?s protege los flancos y mantiene baja temperatura para prolongar el andar sin aire; un dise?o especial del tal?n o alambre de aro ayuda a que el neum?tico se mantenga en posici?n al rin o aro. * La aplicaci?n del s?mbolo Green X es determinada por pruebas de laboratorio en base al modelo y tama?o del neum?tico. Tama?os espec?ficos con el s?mbolo Green X son identificados en las p?ginas de TAMA?OS y PRECIOS, al igual que en la de ESPECIFICACI?N. Which of these tires are available in my size? Tires available in your current size are marked with a blue dot ( ). PriceSizeServ. Desc.195/55R16 87H Load Index 87 = 1201lbs (545kg) per tire Speed Rating ?H? = 130mph (210kph) $180.00 (ea.) 205/55R16 91H Load Index 91 = 1356lbs (615kg) per tire Speed Rating ?H? = 130mph (210kph) $168.00 (ea.) 205/55R16* 91V Load Index 91 = 1356lbs (615kg) per tire Speed Rating ?V? = 149mph (240kph) $159.00 (ea.) 205/55R16 91V Load Index 91 = 1356lbs (615kg) per tire Speed Rating ?V? = 149mph (240kph) $195.00 (ea.) PriceSizeServ. Desc.205/45R17 84V Load Index 84 = 1102lbs (500kg) per tire Speed Rating ?V? = 149mph (240kph) $255.00 (ea.) 205/50R17 89W Load Index 89 = 1279lbs (580kg) per tire Speed Rating ?W? = 168mph (270kph) $255.00 (ea.) 205/50R17 89V Load Index 89 = 1279lbs (580kg) per tire Speed Rating ?V? = 149mph (240kph) $220.00 (ea.) PriceSizeServ. Desc.205/50R17* 89W Load Index 89 = 1279lbs (580kg) per tire Speed Rating ?W? = 168mph (270kph) $247.00 (ea.) 225/45R17* 91V Load Index 91 = 1356lbs (615kg) per tire Speed Rating ?V? = 149mph (240kph) $241.00 (ea.) 225/45R17* 91W Load Index 91 = 1356lbs (615kg) per tire Speed Rating ?W? = 168mph (270kph) $269.00 (ea.) *Low rolling resistant Green X tire Currently Selected Tire Size(s) Size Service Description Load Range UTQG Max Load Max. Inflation Press. Tread Depth Tire Weight Rim Width Range Meas. Rim Width Sect. Width Tread Width Overall Diam. Revs Per Mile Country of Origin* 195/55R16 Load Index 87 = 1201lbs (545kg) per tire Speed Rating ?V? = 149mph (240kph) 87V SL RunFlat Treadwear: 240 Traction: A Temperature: A240 A A 1201 lbs. 51 psi 10/32" 25lbs. 5.5-7" 6" 7.9" 7.1" 24.4" 852 Country of Origin "IT" = ITALYIT Which of these tires are available in my size? Tires available in your current size are marked with a blue dot ( ). All Other Sizes for this Tire [+] Show </p><p>This may be what I go with next. ET</p>
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Salinas, Ca. | Ya, what he just said!!! LOL... |
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Albuquerque, NM | How about a condensed version of all that! |
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Tucson, AZ | I checked with the mechanic at the Victory dealer here in Tucson and he told me he would install a car tire no problem. So that's where I'm goin'.
Edited by Gray rider 2010-09-22 7:21 PM
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| Say any of you dark side wild ones have photos of these car tires on your bike.
How is cornering? Do you get way over or just a little passed center?
I have read every thing and a car tire is a way better all around tire then a bike tire.
Hope to see lots of photos
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New Mexico | RedDog - 2010-09-20 7:09 PM
Since posting this, I have been on tirerack looking at tires. http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires.jsp?tireMake=Kumho&tireModel=Ec...
I really like the looks of the Kumho run flat.
Website says "they are not intended to be driven in near-freezing temperatures, through snow or on ice." I am hoping to ride year-round, so don't think the runflat will work for me. |
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OHIO | Boots - 2010-09-22 7:51 PM Website says "they are not intended to be driven in near-freezing temperatures, through snow or on ice." I am hoping to ride year-round, so don't think the runflat will work for me. I notice that also, but I will not be riding in snow or ice.  I haven't bought the tire yet, still looking. |
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OHIO | John,
On youtube there are bikes with car tires, not Vision, but others. |
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OHIO | http://www.thefind.com/search?query=195%2F55%2F16
This site has quite a few tire selections. I like the looks of the $60.77 Achilles ATR Sport. |
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New Mexico | Good, simple article on how to read motorcycle tires:
http://www.bikebandit.com/partsbandit/articles/Tips--How_To/HowRead... |
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orrick, mo | check the gallery I have pictures of me and a friend two up on Push mountain road in Arkansas. We were going about 70 mph loveing it the whole time.  |
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New Bohemia, VA | RedDog - 2010-09-22 9:03 PM
Boots - 2010-09-22 7:51 PM Website says "they are not intended to be driven in near-freezing temperatures, through snow or on ice." I am hoping to ride year-round, so don't think the runflat will work for me. ? I notice that also, but I will not be riding in snow or ice.? I haven't bought the tire yet, still looking.
Stock E3s
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Slq23hRFbU
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Salisbury, NC | Unlike Varyder, I use a lighter bike to ride in snow. Less to pick up when I bust my a$$. LOL http://www.michelinman.com/tire-selector/size/emetric/195/55/16/V/p... Still need to learn how to copy a site page, opps. What I like about this tire is that it has rounded shoulders. ET
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New Bohemia, VA | ...the trick is is to stay so you don't have to pick it up, so far it's worked for me, knock on wood *knocking forehead*...  |
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Salisbury, NC | john frey - 2010-09-22 7:39 PM Say any of you dark side wild ones have photos of these car tires on your bike. How is cornering? Do you get way over or just a little passed center? I have read every thing and a car tire is a way better all around tire then a bike tire. Hope to see lots of photos Thanks Here is a link to my photos of the car tire. ET http://imageevent.com/etspastimes/rosiescartireinstalled
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OHIO | I purchased a Falken Ziex at Discount Tire. |
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Moravia, IA | john frey - 2010-09-22 7:39 PM
Say any of you dark side wild ones have photos of these car tires on your bike.
How is cornering? Do you get way over or just a little passed center?
I have read every thing and a car tire is a way better all around tire then a bike tire.
Hope to see lots of photos
Thanks
The Vision is easy to ride hard....and it loves corners.
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I commonly demonstrate the car tire by doing figure 8s in a parking lot with the hard parts of the bike in constant contact with the ground, I love that scraping noise.
Edited by aaronrkelly 2010-09-27 3:01 AM
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OHIO | I have tire on. Only rode for about 10 miles, but felt good during it. Local Yamaha dealer mounted it at $37!! I thought was high, won't be going back there for a tire mount, plus they could not balance because of Victory axle being bigger than any Yamaha's.
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orrick, mo | Well at least with the ct you won't have to have a new rear tire mounted for a long time.
Throw some dyna beads in to take care of the balancing. Ride safe and enjoy life on the
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