why didn't you tell me
johnnyvision
Posted 2010-09-06 4:52 PM (#68796)
Subject: why didn't you tell me


Visionary

Posts: 4278
#1 the vision moves around on a windy day and really gets bad next to a semi
#2 the grips are to small and the postilion or angle of the way your hands are on the bars could be better
#3 I don't like the way the dust and dirt and rain get in the saddle bags
#4 the radio antenna sucks
#5 I don't like the way the switches on the dash are not light but the over amount of radio switches are
#6 the heated grips don't get very warm. A match gets hotter
#7 I think there should be more then one turn signal bulb per side in the rear
#8 why is the kick stand right where you put your oil pan for draining your oil
#9 one full day to change a headlight bulb
#10 out of round rear belt pully

Now That all my disappointment are out in the open and off my chest. I want to sell my 2008 vision for a 2010 anniversary red and black vision. I live in monneapolis minnesoat and got up saturday morning threw my leg over my vision went to kansas city had a steak with potato amd a little nap of a hour and came back home. There is nothing better flying down the road going 60 and then running 100 its six hours down and six hours back and would do it again if I hadn't done it all read. I think I am getting a passport and heading north.
Don't write and rip on me just love your bike like I do mine but if I could change something.

Edited by john frey 2010-09-06 4:57 PM
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Arkainzeye
Posted 2010-09-06 5:40 PM (#68798 - in reply to #68796)
Subject: Re: why didn't you tell me


Visionary

Posts: 3773
Pittsburgh, PA
i think you have some defective parts on your vision. i have a 2008 and my grips get very warm even with gloves on! i also dont have any problems at all riding next to semi trucks. i havent noticed any dust in my bags in 16000 miles. maybe that will come later? i agree the radio reception is the worst i ever saw! even with a replacement antenna it still is a joke.. I never had a problem with draining my oil and the pan hitting the kickstand? what kinda pan are you using that it hits the KS? I cant comment on #9 and #10 and i hope i never have too .. lol i know you want a 2010 but all that is , is the same model with some paint and chrome. why not make a REAL change and get the 2011 model~ !
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VisionTex
Posted 2010-09-06 5:46 PM (#68800 - in reply to #68796)
Subject: RE: why didn't you tell me


Visionary

Posts: 1484
LaPorte,Tx.
Sorry you find the bike somewhat disappointing. I believe if you would have searched this website, almost all of your disappointments were discussed, so we did tell you. The anniversary Vision is a 2009 model not 2010, but that does not take away from it, it is a beautiful motorcycle. There is a used one on ebay now for sale and I believe there are still one or two new ones still around.
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varyder
Posted 2010-09-06 5:51 PM (#68801 - in reply to #68796)
Subject: Re: why didn't you tell me


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
too cool frey man - that's a good deal to freshen up on the Vision. I look forward to the day that we can head to Texas for chili, and then to boston for clam chowder then on to maine for lobster, all in the same trip and just for the fun of it.
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VaParadox
Posted 2010-09-06 5:58 PM (#68803 - in reply to #68796)
Subject: Re: why didn't you tell me


Iron Butt

Posts: 1158
Richmond, Virginia
My automatic ass wiper doesnt do a great job, especially on the intermittant setting. The retractable sun roof sucks because the moment I look up i see the sun. The snow cone machine only works in cherry mode. The heated side bags and dash storage panel works great everything i put in there is always toasty. The heater does not have an off mode. HOWEVER the blinking " PLEASE STARE AT MY BIKE AS YOU DRIVE BY" sign works like a charm.
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dwhite28
Posted 2010-09-06 6:53 PM (#68807 - in reply to #68796)
Subject: Re: why didn't you tell me


Tourer

Posts: 404
San Antonio, TX United States
I am sure it was just to get the attention with some tongue in cheek sarcasm. God quit picking everything apart and taking it so personal. I would probably do she same thing and never had one single issue with my 08. Damn i want that 2010 Blue and sandstone though. Have to get one of those, keep my 08 black and get the custom paint on the black one. Thinking of a Bettie Page theme on it. Have a safe and long ride there John Frey. By the way, VARYDER, i am in Pauls Valley, OK this month, will be riding across to Norfolk out of here in the 15th of Sept. Be in town for a week and then ride back out this way for work again.
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varyder
Posted 2010-09-06 7:14 PM (#68809 - in reply to #68796)
Subject: Re: why didn't you tell me


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
David, I might have to make a career changes. I've got to go to Wisconsin, ----- flying though, day in, day out, not enough time available to ride. Besides, I'm working just 4 miles from the house for the next 2 weeks before going to Wisconsin so the Vision is in the hanger as of tonight for maintenance. Replacing exhaust gaskets and rear bushings, if I can get them.
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RedRider
Posted 2010-09-07 5:09 AM (#68841 - in reply to #68796)
Subject: Re: why didn't you tell me


Visionary

Posts: 1350
The Vic dealer in Branford, CT has his 10th Anny for sale. $2000 off list don't know if that includes discounts. As far as I know it's never been ridden. Give them a call.
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Webhair
Posted 2010-09-07 7:38 AM (#68851 - in reply to #68796)
Subject: Re: why didn't you tell me


Iron Butt

Posts: 669
Peachtree City, GA
The only item I have to add is there was not an Anniverary model in 2010... It was a 2009.

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sgiacci
Posted 2010-09-07 9:00 AM (#68859 - in reply to #68796)
Subject: Re: why didn't you tell me


Tourer

Posts: 401
Check the build date, I bet it was on 12/21/07.
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Webhair
Posted 2010-09-07 2:11 PM (#68882 - in reply to #68796)
Subject: Re: why didn't you tell me


Iron Butt

Posts: 669
Peachtree City, GA
Actually 4/08
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sbumstead
Posted 2010-09-08 6:30 PM (#68987 - in reply to #68796)
Subject: RE: why didn't you tell me


New user

Posts: 2
I just purchased a black vision 8-ball last week and have been able to put 900 miles on it. I have to agree with your first point about the wind. The Vision has so much surface area that it acts like a sail when hit by a cross wind.

I went riding yesterday with a group of Harley boys and it took all my strength to control the bike, keeping it stable. The Harleys in did not have this problem. It got a little touch and go there when we crossed the Zilwaukee bridge, which is located between Saginaw and Bay City Michigan. The wind blew me into the next lane just before I reached the crest of the bridge. Lucky enough car behind me was able to swerve out of the way because I would have been a part of his grill.

I have been riding for 30 years now and have had no accidents on a bike. I have owned Honda?s, Suzuki?s, BMW?s, Harleys and now this Victory Vision. I weigh about 225 lbs and find the Vision to have many good qualities, however it becomes unpredictable when riding in moderate to heavy winds. I plan on trading mine in on a Victory Crossroads
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rainryder
Posted 2010-09-08 7:01 PM (#68988 - in reply to #68796)
Subject: Re: why didn't you tell me


Tourer

Posts: 444
Bay of Gigs, WA
Luckily I'm not a Buddhist since mine kills bugs like they're going out of style. If I'd have known that, I'd have bought the padded front fairing model to save some innocent lives. As it is, I think some kind of disclaimer in the brochure is warranted. They shoulda tol' me...

Sincerely,

wise guy ;0>
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rainryder
Posted 2010-09-08 7:04 PM (#68989 - in reply to #68796)
Subject: Re: why didn't you tell me


Tourer

Posts: 444
Bay of Gigs, WA
I guess I shouldn't drink beer and read these things! Sorry if I stepped on any sensitivities.

Geez-how PC am I getting nowdays? I actually feel guilty. Maybe bourbon will help.
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CC-Rider
Posted 2010-09-08 7:13 PM (#68991 - in reply to #68796)
Subject: Re: why didn't you tell me


Cruiser

Posts: 77
Actually I find the Vision handles very well in the wind. You just have to learn not to fight with "Vicky" so much on windy days!
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ScoreBo
Posted 2010-09-08 8:30 PM (#68997 - in reply to #68796)
Subject: Re: why didn't you tell me


Iron Butt

Posts: 1117
Northeast Ohio
You forgot a few
#9a No matter how hard you try, you can't clean the fogging on the top of the headlight
#11 Red contrast on gauges is too light. (Fixed on 2009 and up)
#12 The chrome peels on the clutch cover.
#13 Is this thing a popcorn machine?
#14 Why does it feel like ice on wet tar snakes?
#15 Gear indicator doesn't work 100% of the time.
#16 Gatlin tips are too hard to clean.
#17 Battery won't hold a charge if you leave the trunk open too long.
#18 Why does the rear brake need to be bled every year?
#19 I'm in the dumps about these issues. Someone told me to look at the Motivational Posters. Where are they?
#20 I hear Donetracey knows the best oil to use, but won't tell us.

Sorry, I couldn't resist.
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XRsteve
Posted 2010-09-08 9:05 PM (#69003 - in reply to #68796)
Subject: Re: why didn't you tell me


Visionary

Posts: 2300
Georgia, west of Atlanta
Hmm, no problems with dust or rain in the sadddlebags ( yet ) only 6000 miles, The heated grips get very warm on low and damn hot on high. I hope I don't have to change a headlight anytime soon..............
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dwhite28
Posted 2010-09-08 9:08 PM (#69007 - in reply to #68796)
Subject: Re: why didn't you tell me


Tourer

Posts: 404
San Antonio, TX United States
I am so glad i have an 2008 Tour premium and i have only had to realign and tension the belt one time in 38K miles and had my left hand radio controls go out one time. Other than that, none of the items in all the lists have ever affected me or my bike. Never heard of the bleeding of the rear brake once a year till i just read this last list and i am actually a Victory Tech. Had one bike fresh out of the crate that i had to bleed the rear master cylinder through the front caliper, and that happen to be an 08. And i dont know of one bike that doesnt feel like your on ice when going over tar snakes. They are slippery, you know sort of like the oil they are. But you do notice that kind of weight shifting more so than on a lighter bike.
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ScoreBo
Posted 2010-09-08 9:15 PM (#69010 - in reply to #68796)
Subject: Re: why didn't you tell me


Iron Butt

Posts: 1117
Northeast Ohio
Rear Brake Thread - Here you go: http://www.vision-riders.com/bb/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=3022&sta...

DWhite - I was actually picking on the tar snakes and a few others. We have had a lot of threads about them.

Edited by ScoreBo 2010-09-08 9:19 PM
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roundtwig
Posted 2010-09-08 9:30 PM (#69016 - in reply to #68796)
Subject: RE: why didn't you tell me


Cruiser

Posts: 233
flagstaff, AZ
My only problem, the odometer keeps going up no matter how much I ride.
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dwhite28
Posted 2010-09-08 9:39 PM (#69019 - in reply to #68796)
Subject: Re: why didn't you tell me


Tourer

Posts: 404
San Antonio, TX United States
oh, sorry, i understand now. I guess i was taking RainRyders suggestion and using Makers Mark, so i was guilty of Drinking and Typing. lol.
I never take comments all that seriously, i know it takes all kinds to make this world go round. Lord knows i have stepped on a few toes with my off the cuff and calous comments, but i dont do it maliciously. I will throw a few cents in now and then just to see what come back. I have not been on this forum as i should be over the last year. Been busy riding more than anything and a few others things.
As for the handling issue, i have to agree with Kaydee, i was on this site heavily in the first year and a half. The general consensus with handling always came down to not fighting her. I know there are so many people that have huge amounts of years of riding experience, me included. And even some of the old dogs had to finally admit that they had to rethink the way they rode. Over the last two years of riding mine, with the high winds across parts of Nevada, New Mexico and Kansas along with my time back home around Virginia beach and crossing the long bridges there and the 20 mile expanse of the Chesapeake Bay Bridge and the winds coming off of the atlantic with gusts as high as 20 and 30 i have been hit with, i have never had the bike change lanes on me. Yes i have shifted from one side of the lane to the other, but not in a jerky manner. But i do strongly suggest to anyone thats not comfortable on the bike to please change what they ride. No one should ride if they are not comfortable with what they are on.
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VisionTex
Posted 2010-09-08 9:52 PM (#69021 - in reply to #69019)
Subject: Re: why didn't you tell me


Visionary

Posts: 1484
LaPorte,Tx.
There is no doubt, the Vision is not for everyone...if it was then there would be a million of them running around. If the Vision has more issues than you can handle...it is best that you step away from the bike and get something you can deal with!!
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CC-Rider
Posted 2010-09-08 11:10 PM (#69028 - in reply to #68796)
Subject: Re: why didn't you tell me


Cruiser

Posts: 77
I agree with VisionTex, the Vision is not for everyone and I for one am glad it isn't. I enjoy being different from others, not being 1 of a million riding the same style bike.
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handyhiker
Posted 2010-09-09 3:46 AM (#69031 - in reply to #69028)
Subject: Re: why didn't you tell me


Cruiser

Posts: 258
Akron, Ohio
kaydee - 2010-09-09 12:10 AM

I agree with VisionTex, the Vision is not for everyone and I for one am glad it isn't. I enjoy being different from others, not being 1 of a million riding the same style bike.


+1
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Bix
Posted 2010-09-09 10:09 PM (#69090 - in reply to #68796)
Subject: Re: why didn't you tell me


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 32
My wife and I just rode from Michigan to Indiana in 30mph wind gusts and the bike handled it really well. However we were loaded down prett well. But this week I'm riding by myself, with the trunk on and basically unloaded and the wind is moving me all over the road. However, in similar conditions without the trunk I find the bike handles the wind really well. I agree with the comment about riding the wind, and not fighting it. This bike seems to snake through the wind, which I can only believe has a lot to do with the fixed fairing. But seriously, if you aren't on a road trip and can afford to take off the trunk, give it a try, to me it feels like a very different bike when the trunk is removed, and the wind issue is just one of the things I noticed.

Ride Safe
Bix


Edited by Bix 2010-09-09 10:10 PM
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varyder
Posted 2010-09-09 10:11 PM (#69091 - in reply to #69031)
Subject: Re: why didn't you tell me


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
handyhiker - 2010-09-09 4:46 AM

kaydee - 2010-09-09 12:10 AM

I agree with VisionTex, the Vision is not for everyone and I for one am glad it isn't. I enjoy being different from others, not being 1 of a million riding the same style bike.


+1


That's a fact, it's not your ordinary motorcycle. It takes a visionaire to ride one...
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rainryder
Posted 2010-09-10 3:10 PM (#69138 - in reply to #68796)
Subject: Re: why didn't you tell me


Tourer

Posts: 444
Bay of Gigs, WA
I was bummed when I looked at the front of the sidebags when my wife and I got back from our little weekend trip and noticed thye were semi-scuffed from her chaps, but they buffed right out with a fresh coat of wax yesterday. I should get her to wear alcantara or something, but the chaps are so hot with blue bikini bottoms...

Also, I used Eagle One Nanowax for the first time. VERY positive report to-er-report. Extremely smooth, great gloss on the midnight cherry, and easy on/off, and come with it's own applicator and microfiber towel, for $3.50 at BigLots. Could probably be gotten at some dollar stores, too, but was sheap enough to take a flyer on, with pleasant results. liek blue bikini bottoms. no pics, either.
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johnnyvision
Posted 2010-09-10 5:59 PM (#69149 - in reply to #68796)
Subject: Re: why didn't you tell me


Visionary

Posts: 4278
Don't throw you polishing towels in the dryer with fabric softener. The softener has patrolmen in it. I all ways let mine drip dry and tow for polishing one to whip the wax off and then go over it again with the second towel for the high gloss finish. I have been using maguiar's was clean and it comes out great. Before each ride whip the bike with a califorina duster. When I get home a damp hot towel to whip the bugs off way quicker when there freshly splattered. Stay with the micro towels.
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Nozzledog
Posted 2010-12-08 10:23 PM (#75038 - in reply to #68796)
Subject: RE: why didn't you tell me


Visionary

Posts: 1229
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
My wife loves the heated saddle bags. I can bring home dinner and it will still be warm no matter how sidetracked I get riding home.
Coming from a Harley bagger, there is very little I can complain about with 'ViNess-a'. I don't have a trunk so I can't really comment on the wind, cause I have a whole lot less pushing than my bagged ever did. I just finished a ride thru Mojave desert and a few HD riders asked my how the Vision did in the wind because they were getting "concerned". I had no problems with the wind. We slowed down a little after that. Of 11 Harleys in the group, 3 lost parts on the 250 mile ride ( shift lever, trunk bolt and a whole side saddlebag ). No bike was over 6 years old.
Sure the pipes are quite, stock Harleys are too. Mods fix that easily.
I only wish I had an 8 gallon fuel tank, cuz 320 miles is about when I feel like I want to get off and stretch for 5-6 minutes. Kinda sad to stop every 240.
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trailbarge
Posted 2010-12-09 10:56 AM (#75061 - in reply to #68801)
Subject: Re: why didn't you tell me


Tourer

Posts: 363
Goldsboro, NC
varyder - 2010-09-06 6:51 PM

too cool frey man - that's a good deal to freshen up on the Vision. I look forward to the day that we can head to Texas for chili, and then to boston for clam chowder then on to maine for lobster, all in the same trip and just for the fun of it.
Dont' forget Seattle for salmon and Las Angeles for......... tacos!
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trailbarge
Posted 2010-12-09 11:00 AM (#75066 - in reply to #68807)
Subject: Re: why didn't you tell me


Tourer

Posts: 363
Goldsboro, NC
dwhite28 - 2010-09-06 7:53 PM
Damn i want that 2010 Blue and sandstone though. Have to get one of those, keep my 08 black and get the custom paint on the black one.

Hear, here! I ALMOST not waiting... but it would have been two years of not riding the Vision to get that color combo. It IS beautiful, though.
By the way, VARYDER, i am in Pauls Valley, OK this month, will be riding across to Norfolk out of here in the 15th of Sept. Be in town for a week and then ride back out this way for work again.And I'm about 3 hours SW of Norfolk.
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donetracey
Posted 2010-12-09 1:19 PM (#75086 - in reply to #68997)
Subject: Re: why didn't you tell me


Visionary

Posts: 2118
Pitt Meadows, BC Canada

ScoreBo - 2010-09-08 6:30 PM You forgot a few #9a No matter how hard you try, you can't clean the fogging on the top of the headlight #11 Red contrast on gauges is too light. (Fixed on 2009 and up) #12 The chrome peels on the clutch cover. #13 Is this thing a popcorn machine? #14 Why does it feel like ice on wet tar snakes? #15 Gear indicator doesn't work 100% of the time. #16 Gatlin tips are too hard to clean. #17 Battery won't hold a charge if you leave the trunk open too long. #18 Why does the rear brake need to be bled every year? #19 I'm in the dumps about these issues. Someone told me to look at the Motivational Posters. Where are they? #20 I hear Donetracey knows the best oil to use, but won't tell us. Sorry, I couldn't resist.

#20 - Not true. I have been clear about this in other %$#@ threads - I use Peanut Oil (that's what my Dealer told me)

And since i don't have ANY of the other problems discussed here - I'm guessing it is the Peanut Oil that stops those things from happening. 

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Plumley
Posted 2010-12-09 1:25 PM (#75087 - in reply to #68796)
Subject: RE: why didn't you tell me


Cruiser

Posts: 95
Alberta, Canada
If you are spending "Vision" money on a bike you had better do your homework!! Looks like you didn't do your research!! I find all the complaints you name false!! I think that your motorcycling experience is minimal at best!!! The Vision is one of the best bikes I have ridden with regards to wind!! My grips get too hot and I have never had dirt or dust problems with the saddlebags or the trunk. I got news for you pal, the 2010 are the same!!!!
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WESeib
Posted 2010-12-09 1:32 PM (#75088 - in reply to #68796)
Subject: RE: why didn't you tell me


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 9
john frey - 2010-09-06 4:52 PM

#6 the heated grips don't get very warm. A match gets hotter.


Your heated grips should not get hotter than a match, that could cause burns.

Actually, I only have one complaint about the Vision, and, it's not really a complaint so much as an observation. It doesn't have as much power as I like. Granted, my last bike was a Suzuki Hayabusa. I miss the speed and power that bike had, but, all that is forgotten when the stereo on the Vision comes on. Besides, the Vision is a LOT more comfortable.



Edited by WESeib 2010-12-09 1:36 PM
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tralphaz
Posted 2010-12-09 4:17 PM (#75093 - in reply to #68991)
Subject: Re: why didn't you tell me


Tourer

Posts: 353
tymwrp - 2010-09-08 4:13 PM

Actually I find the Vision handles very well in the wind. You just have to learn not to fight with "Vicky" so much on windy days!


+1
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