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Visionary
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | On videos they sound pretty similar, any riders who have these installed have any words of praise or complaints?? |
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Visionary
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | 49 views so far AND silence............... |
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Tourer
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Tucson, AZ | Ok then, I dont have either on my Vision but have heard both in real life. I prefer the CFR exhaust note myself, the Thundersticks being a bit raspy. I had the Thunder Headers on a Harley a few years back, pulled them off and put on a Boarzilla. Dont know anything about the performance of the two or lack of, just that the CFR have a throaty deeper sound than the Thundersticks to me.
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Cruiser
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Rapid City, SD | What is the website for the CFR pipes? |
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Puddle Jumper
Posts: 32
| I've got the CFR pipes and had a chance to hear the thundersticks on another vision. I really wanted the thundersticks but trying to get the original heat shields back on was becoming an issue. So, I got impatient and went for the CFRs. They are very deep sounding, but over the last 2000 miles they have opened up a bit and are slightly louder and have a bit of rasp to them. My biggest concern with the CFRs was the volume, and they turned out not to be loud at all, of course this is subjective! They are present at idle and have authority when you get on it, but when cruising you can talk over them very easily. I thought they were too quiet at first, but after having them for awhile, I've decided I really like the volume and the tone.
If you have any specific questions, you can PM me. If you want to see pics, search my username and you will see pics of my bike with them on.
Ride Safe
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Iron Butt
Posts: 623
| i have the T-sticks. Love them. like everyone else, you do your shopping and listen to every pipe you can. I liked the sound of the tsticks more than the CFR's....its funny, but i thought about CFR's what MKULTRA thought about tsticks...i little raspy and tin-ie for me. Since we all like what we like, make sure you find a way to hear them bothe before you buy. Enjoy. The heat shields for the t sticks are a challenge, but was able to get mine on solid as a rock using a 2 1/2" exhaust clamp, they have been on for 12000 miles + no issues. pics in my gallery.
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Visionary
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | Jeffmack, I've seen your pics they look great and it looks like you got the heatshields back on perfectly.............. |
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Visionary
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | CFR website does not seem to be operating properly, wrote then an email and have not got a response yet, guess I'll try and call them on Monday........Do they sell through a distributor ?? |
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Puddle Jumper
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Southaven, MS | Bix - 2010-08-17 4:26 AM
I've got the CFR pipes and had a chance to hear the thundersticks on another vision. I really wanted the thundersticks but trying to get the original heat shields back on was becoming an issue. So, I got impatient and went for the CFRs. They are very deep sounding, but over the last 2000 miles they have opened up a bit and are slightly louder and have a bit of rasp to them. My biggest concern with the CFRs was the volume, and they turned out not to be loud at all, of course this is subjective! They are present at idle and have authority when you get on it, but when cruising you can talk over them very easily. I thought they were too quiet at first, but after having them for awhile, I've decided I really like the volume and the tone.
If you have any specific questions, you can PM me. If you want to see pics, search my username and you will see pics of my bike with them on.
Ride Safe
Mike
Bix,
I asked a person on another forum about the CFR pipes, and what programmer/program they had on with the pipes. I was told that they just had the pipes. They stated they did not have a programmer of anykind, and the bike was all stock except for the pipes with no popping to speak of. Is your bike the same? Do you get a lot of popping?
Robert
Edited by Mississippi 2010-08-23 1:11 PM
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Tourer
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Albuquerque, NM | Anyone know if the exhaust input end of the thundersticsk are flared or straight? All the pics I've seen look like they'd match up better with the stock heat shields if they were a inch or two shorter. |
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Visionary
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | All right, I just orderd my CFR exhaust today, will be calling Lloyd for an intake plate and fuel controller next. Cams may have to wait another month or so.............. |
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Visionary
Posts: 4278
| Exhaust Guys I just put on s1l1 and am woundering about getting a download and K&N air cleaner. Do you think I need to do this or just ride??
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Puddle Jumper
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| Mississippi - 2010-08-23 2:11 PM
Bix,
I asked a person on another forum about the CFR pipes, and what programmer/program they had on with the pipes. I was told that they just had the pipes. They stated they did not have a programmer of anykind, and the bike was all stock except for the pipes with no popping to speak of. Is your bike the same? Do you get a lot of popping?
Robert
Robert
Sorry for the slow response, I didn't see your post. I am running my CFRs with the original mapping. There is some popping but it is really minor. I might get one backfire on an upshift per hour of riding, it seems to be really minimal. The CFRs over time have changed in tone quite a bit, they are a little louder, and have a bit of rasp to them, but not tinny. I really love them the longer I have em on. They are loud enough to give it character and bark if you get on the throttle, but at 60mph you can talk to the passenger without yelling over the pipes.
Ride safe
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Visionary
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | That sounds good.......... |
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Visionary
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | Just got my CFR's installed, nice low rumble at idle and low roar at WFO. NO popping or backfiring so far and the first 20 miles I was trying to get it to pop. ( smile ) Original mapping and stock air cleaner................Looked very closely at the exhaust pipes/ports while bike was on the work table, I have no exhaust leaks, miracle I guess, 6500 miles...................steve |
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Puddle Jumper
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Gledale, Az | They look great with the stock sheilds, I have the thunder sticks pipes, sound great but not a clean look, lucky for me i have still the stock pipes, I will attempt to install like you did when its not 150 degrees in my garage, thanks for posting this. |
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Visionary
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | I just got home from Charlotte, 750 miles, 2 days. One small pop on a upshift from 2nd to 3rd. Really wouldn't have noticed it except I've been really listening for the first occurence. Still loving the CFR's got compliments everywhere I went...........They rock.......... |
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Cruiser
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Tucson , AZ | The CFR's are a great muffler... nice deep tone.. I think the Ness big Honkers have a deeper roar... But i definetly think the CFR's are one of the best mufflers on the market rt now. I have very little popping .. only at low rpms when it loads up a little.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1J5eM1yszb4 |
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Visionary
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | CFR is supposed to be developing a full length system and will discontinue the slip ons. They have around 30 left........... Maybe at dicount prices, I got mine for less than retail.................. |
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Cruiser
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Winston-Salem, NC | I get alot of compliments from even Harley riders about the sound of the Ness Big Honkers. |
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Cruiser
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New Castle Delaware | I just installed my Thundersticks on Thursday. Very low ballsey rumble at idle not tinny at all. I think they are really loud but in a good way. Before people would hear my stereo first then turn to look at the bike now I get their attention from the get go. I think I like them without the shields it makes the bike look slimmer and they are easier to clean. I get no pops on downshifts but do get a backfire once in a while on upshifts between 2nd & 3rd but I got that before on my S1L2. If you want loud and beefy these are for you |
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Puddle Jumper
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Galt California | I really like the CFR exhaust. I am running Atom Bombs on my vision. They are by far the best bang for your buck.  |
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Cruiser
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| XRsteve - 2010-09-20 1:44 PM
CFR is supposed to be developing a full length system and will discontinue the slip ons. They have around 30 left........... Maybe at dicount prices, I got mine for less than retail..................
What website is closing them out and can I use my fluted tips on them? Thanks |
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Visionary
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | Just go to CFR exhaust , you might to call them.............. |
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Cruiser
Posts: 256
| The price is now right on them but I don't think I can use my fluted tips on them, I love the tips so I think I may go with the atom bomb when I get back from overseas. Send them off, get them ceramic coated and an autotune and pcv and I'll be set. Set back about $1k that is. |
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Puddle Jumper
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Kokomo, IN | Wanted some healthy sounding pipes for my Vision. I installed a pair of "Thunder Sticks" made by "Thunderheaders". These are the baddest sounding pipes I've ever heard. They make my H-D Iron-head with drag pipes sound weak. I've read on Google that the company is owned by the "Hells Angels MC". I do know that Sonny Barger has them on his Victory Vision. They leave a bit to be desired on fit & finish, but they sound bad-ass and increase torque. If you want to wake your neighbors, these are the pipes. I f--king love them! You can buy them online for $560 which is cheaper than "Stage-1" or Ness pipes. I had "Stage-1" pipes before. There is a sound clip on You-Tube, but it doesn't do them justice. Sounds like a blown & injected 426 Hemi with open headers!!!!
I've found that the pipes do backfire before the motor warms up. I get an occasional "POP" when i shift. Sounds like music to me. Victory bikes are made to be ridden hard and I resemble that remark.
Edited by Commander 2011-03-08 6:44 PM
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Visionary
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | With usual Lloyds upgrades ( Cams, IP, PC 5 ) and the CFR slip ons my Vision made 155.5 HP and 117.9 Ft lbs after a Lloyd dyno tuning under the shade tree at Daytona. The point? The CFR's move adequate air to not hold back the engine and they sounded great, even Lloyd and Adam liked the way they sounded and they hear every type of pipe on the dyno.......... |
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Iron Butt
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| everyone has their own taste so you have to just put your ear to the pipes yourself....me.....I have heard CFR's, Atoms, sl1 and sl2's. I really enjoy the note of the t-sticks. would make the same decision after hearing all the choices, they perform very well. BTW, i do not have any problem talking to my wife when she is on the back, or hearing the speakers on the bike at any speed. But if you want to rap on the throttle the can and do bite. I am running Lloydz cams, intake, VFC, and 6400 rev. have yet to get the dyno for the setup, but I am die'n to. |
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Iron Butt
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| dfarrington - 2010-10-03 12:32 PM
I really like the CFR exhaust. I am running Atom Bombs on my vision. They are by far the best bang for your buck.
not by far they are 200 bones...t-sticks were 550.00 but was able to sell my S1L1's for 225 making for a 325 net.....so 125 diff is not by far to me.... just sayin  |
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Visionary
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | On my post above I mis-typed. I meant 115.5 HP NOT 155.5, I guess ya'll knew that though.................. |
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Puddle Jumper
Posts: 8
| Anyone have decibel ratings for these pipes? Anyone know what the decibel level differance between the atom bombs and the others? Lastly how does each stack up in performance with LLoydz cams? |
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Visionary
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | Well I like the CFR's on my Vision so much I'm replacing the Bassani 2-1 on my 107 inch RoadGlide with CFR dual mufflers and Vance & Hines head pipes. I hope it sounds as nice as the Vision.................. |
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Visionary
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | I am sorry to say the CFR slip ons for the RG are quite a bit louder than the ones on the Vision, they do look great though............... |
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Cruiser
Posts: 146
| I wish I'd of seen this sooner too. I can't believe out of all these pipes mentioned (and they are all great pipes by the way) that the D&D's specially built for the Vision (off of my bike none the less) weren't even mentioned?????? These are great pipes guys/gals and offer a well balanced combination between form & function. They are louder than my s1L2 for sure and have a real nice rumble at cruise speed. The big diff is that they have performance off the charts.......IN THE WORDS OF A GREAT JEDI KNIGHT TURNED SITH LORD TURNED JEDI KNIGHT.......YOU WOULD BE WISE TO CHECK THESE PIPES OUT! |
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Iron Butt
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Southeast Iowa | Just put CFR's on my wifes Cross Roads 2 days ago...............VERY, VERY, VERY pleased with the sound and performance! Nice rumble without being over the top load. Deep throaty sound............bike runs and sounds great! |
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Puddle Jumper
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Warrenton, VA | Just had CFR's installed on my Vision yesterday and I have to say I am very pleased. While the over all sound level is about the same as my old S1L! the tone is much deeper and gives me more bark when I goose the throttle. These pipes also will keep peace with the neighbors and I do not have to raise the volume of my tunes as I am cruising around.
Bottom Line: The S1L! pipes were like a teenager going through puberty sometimes they hit the right tone but then sometimes they were a little higher than what I liked. The CFR's make my Vision sound like a grown up motorcycle and plus they were only $350.00 because CFR is having a blowout sale because they are working on a complete system for the Vision not just slipons
Edited by dnlbest 2011-06-19 7:45 AM
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Cruiser
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| These won't accept the gatlin tips correct? |
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Visionary
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | Prime Power, Maybe but they'd have to be right at 4.25" in diameter.......... |
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Visionary
Posts: 2300
Georgia, west of Atlanta | The CFR's I just got for the RoadGlide are going on the shelf and/or up for sale. They are just too damn loud, even though they look alot like the CFR's on my Vision ( that I love ) they are so loud it not enjoyable to ride. I'm sure I can sell them to somebody who wants LOUD......What a disapointment........... |
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Tourer
Posts: 432
Gettysburg, 2008 Tour Premium | Prime power, the CFR has a billet chrome end cap that is attached to the muffler body. You reuse your shock heat shield though. See my review of these in the reviews section. I love the sound of the Thundersticks but really appreciate the tune-ability of the CFR and set up right they make pretty good power at low RPM's and come on strong at 2400. Good fuel milage.
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Cruiser
Posts: 216
Danville, CA | Love Stix.. Also installed lloyds cams, rev limiter, air intake and remap of computer. Runs and sounds mean.. 119 hp and 116 tqe with clean curves and increased low end out of the block power, more like a HD.. Based on my research, stix get the best results with these mods.
Good luck and safe riding.
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Visionary
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | 119 / 116 is one of the best I've read about for a 106 incher and no headwork................. |
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Visionary
Posts: 2300
Georgia, west of Atlanta | Last pic of both bikes wearing CFR's. The RoadGlide is getting a Vance & Hines 2-1 Pro Pipe, Vision works wonderful with it's CFR system...........
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