CycleOps Color Matched Uppers and Lowers
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Posted 2010-07-02 11:18 AM (#63585)
Subject: CycleOps Color Matched Uppers and Lowers


Tourer

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Uppers installed today, will be putting lowers on ASAP.
Will was great to deal with.



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VisionNWRider
Posted 2010-07-02 12:01 PM (#63591 - in reply to #63585)
Subject: Re: CycleOps Color Matched Uppers and Lowers


Iron Butt

Posts: 639
Tri Cities, WA
As soon as my stock lowers break then i will order a black set from Cycle ops
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CycleOps USA
Posted 2010-07-03 6:54 PM (#63682 - in reply to #63591)
Subject: Re: CycleOps Color Matched Uppers and Lowers


Tourer

Posts: 323
N. Miami, Florida

VisionNWRider - 2010-07-02 1:01 PM As soon as my stock lowers break then i will order a black set from Cycle ops

We'll have 'em here waiting, but how about going one better and still getting them before yours break? Try this... sell your existing ones now, while they are still good to someone looking to replace one or both. They'd even sell individually soon enough. You'll always find takers looking for a replacement for say $25-50 a panel, but once they break they're worthless. Just a thought to help you max out your hard earned buck.

 

And Rick, thank you for the good review, hope you enjoy them. Can't wait to see the lowers on too!

 

 



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Vinner1
Posted 2010-07-05 11:23 AM (#63833 - in reply to #63682)
Subject: Re: CycleOps Color Matched Uppers and Lowers


Cruiser

Posts: 266
Hartland, , WI
CycleOps USA - 2010-07-03 5:54 PM

VisionNWRider - 2010-07-02 1:01 PM As soon as my stock lowers break then i will order a black set from Cycle ops

We'll have 'em here waiting, but how about going one better and still getting them before yours break? Try this... sell your existing ones now, while they are still good to someone looking to replace one or both. They'd even sell individually soon enough. You'll always find takers looking for a replacement for say $25-50 a panel, but?once they break they're worthless. Just a thought to help you max out your hard earned buck.

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And Rick, thank you for the?good review, hope you enjoy them. Can't wait to see the lowers on too!

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Been looking at the Chrome deflectors to replace the clears I have...but $329...OUCH!

Ever have any sales or coupons
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CycleOps USA
Posted 2010-07-05 12:24 PM (#63835 - in reply to #63833)
Subject: Re: CycleOps Color Matched Uppers and Lowers


Tourer

Posts: 323
N. Miami, Florida

Hey there Vinner,

Contact me for the coupon code and save 10%. When you see the top grade quality of the chrome you'll see why the price is what it is.

 

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VisionNWRider
Posted 2010-07-05 4:11 PM (#63849 - in reply to #63682)
Subject: Re: CycleOps Color Matched Uppers and Lowers


Iron Butt

Posts: 639
Tri Cities, WA
You know CycleOps you have a damn good idea to take them off now and sell them and buy yours. I think I will do that. So look for my order very soon for black one's to WA state.. Also whats the code for the 10% discount for us forum users again? I have heard of nothing but good things about you guys so i may need to get a T-shirt too from you all.


CycleOps USA - 2010-07-03 3:54 PM

VisionNWRider - 2010-07-02 1:01 PM As soon as my stock lowers break then i will order a black set from Cycle ops

We'll have 'em here waiting, but how about going one better and still getting them before yours break? Try this... sell your existing ones now, while they are still good to someone looking to replace one or both. They'd even sell individually soon enough. You'll always find takers looking for a replacement for say $25-50 a panel, but?once they break they're worthless. Just a thought to help you max out your hard earned buck.

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And Rick, thank you for the?good review, hope you enjoy them. Can't wait to see the lowers on too!

?

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Edited by VisionNWRider 2010-07-05 4:14 PM
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CycleOps USA
Posted 2010-07-05 4:29 PM (#63850 - in reply to #63849)
Subject: Re: CycleOps Color Matched Uppers and Lowers


Tourer

Posts: 323
N. Miami, Florida

Hey Chuck, that was one of my rvery are bouts of brilliance that come along only so often and normally when I least expect it.    You've got a PM with the discount code Sir, and I do have them in stock. Thanks in advance.

 VisionNWRider - 2010-07-05 5:11 PM You know CycleOps you have a damn good idea to take them off now and sell them and buy yours. I think I will do that. So look for my order very soon for black one's to WA state.. Also whats the code for the 10% discount for us forum users again? I have heard of nothing but good things about you guys so i may need to get a T-shirt too from you all. CycleOps USA - 2010-07-03 3:54 PM

VisionNWRider - 2010-07-02 1:01 PM As soon as my stock lowers break then i will order a black set from Cycle ops

We'll have 'em here waiting, but how about going one better and still getting them before yours break? Try this... sell your existing ones now, while they are still good to someone looking to replace one or both. They'd even sell individually soon enough. You'll always find takers looking for a replacement for say $25-50 a panel, but?once they break they're worthless. Just a thought to help you max out your hard earned buck.

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And Rick, thank you for the?good review, hope you enjoy them. Can't wait to see the lowers on too!

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bakfixr
Posted 2010-07-05 6:39 PM (#63853 - in reply to #63850)
Subject: Re: CycleOps Color Matched Uppers and Lowers


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 25
Illinois
I already have both the upper and lowers in black and I must say, wow what a difference!! What other products are in development???
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CycleOps USA
Posted 2010-07-05 7:31 PM (#63855 - in reply to #63853)
Subject: Re: CycleOps Color Matched Uppers and Lowers


Tourer

Posts: 323
N. Miami, Florida

bakfixr - 2010-07-05 7:39 PM I already have both the upper and lowers in black and I must say, wow what a difference!! What other products are in development???

Glad you're pleased with your deflectors Mark, and we appreciate your business. As for new goodies for the Visions we're coming out with versions of our Vision Retro and Winged V trunk racks (if you haven't seen them yet go to: http://www.cycleopsusa.com/custombillet.html#vr) for the Vision passenger backrests, as well as 5/16" mirror polished solid Stainless Steel billet flag staffs for our racks. If you haven't browsed our entire site yet please do so and you'll find many other items for the Vision already there. 

   

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Webhair
Posted 2010-07-06 9:29 AM (#63889 - in reply to #63855)
Subject: Re: CycleOps Color Matched Uppers and Lowers


Iron Butt

Posts: 669
Peachtree City, GA
CycleOps USA - 2010-07-05 8:31 PM

bakfixr - 2010-07-05 7:39 PM I already have both the upper and lowers in black and I must say, wow what a difference!! What other products are in development???

Glad you're pleased with your deflectors Mark, and we appreciate your business. As for new goodies for the Visions we're coming out with versions of our Vision Retro and Winged V trunk racks (if you haven't seen them yet go to: http://www.cycleopsusa.com/custombillet.html#vr) for the Vision passenger backrests, as well as 5/16" mirror polished solid Stainless Steel billet?flag staffs for our racks. If you haven't browsed our entire site yet please do so and you'll find many other items for the Vision already there.?

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Damn Will, There you go again finding more ways for me to spend more money on my addiction.

So, how soon on the Winged V for the passenger backrest/luggage rack?????
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CycleOps USA
Posted 2010-07-06 10:10 AM (#63894 - in reply to #63889)
Subject: Re: CycleOps Color Matched Uppers and Lowers


Tourer

Posts: 323
N. Miami, Florida
Webhair - 2010-07-06 10:29 AM CycleOps USA - 2010-07-05 8:31 PM

bakfixr - 2010-07-05 7:39 PM I already have both the upper and lowers in black and I must say, wow what a difference!! What other products are in development???

Glad you're pleased with your deflectors Mark, and we appreciate your business. As for new goodies for the Visions we're coming out with versions of our Vision Retro and Winged V trunk racks (if you haven't seen them yet go to: http://www.cycleopsusa.com/custombillet.html#vr) for the Vision passenger backrests, as well as 5/16" mirror polished solid Stainless Steel billet?flag staffs for our racks. If you haven't browsed our entire site yet please do so and you'll find many other items for the Vision already there.?

???

Damn Will, There you go again finding more ways for me to spend more money on my addiction. So, how soon on the Winged V for the passenger backrest/luggage rack?????

Working on the brackets right now Dave. Plus my machinist is making more decks for them. His CNC is down for service and hopefully it's back up and running soon. If it is, it'll be a few weeks before they're welded up and ready. Stay tuned...

 

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marcparnes
Posted 2010-08-07 7:31 PM (#66608 - in reply to #63585)
Subject: RE: CycleOps Color Matched Uppers and Lowers


Iron Butt

Posts: 802

Hey Will,
You know what would really help would be if you put an additional 3/16" or slightly larger hole in your lower to give us access to the adjusting screw. That way we could adjust them without having to take them off first. The way it is now it's a guess each time. If we could adjust the screw tension with the lowers still on it would be more accurate and quicker.

Do it and I'll buy a black set asap. I don't want to drill the plastic ones since they aren't very strong in that area anyway.

Marc

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CycleOps USA
Posted 2010-08-08 10:15 AM (#66669 - in reply to #66608)
Subject: RE: CycleOps Color Matched Uppers and Lowers


Tourer

Posts: 323
N. Miami, Florida
marcparnes - 2010-08-07 8:31 PM

Hey Will,
You know what would really help would be if you put an additional 3/16" or slightly larger hole in your lower to give us access to the adjusting screw. That way we could adjust them without having to take them off first. The way it is now it's a guess each time. If we could adjust the screw tension with the lowers still on it would be more accurate and quicker.

Do it and I'll buy a black set asap. I don't want to drill the plastic ones since they aren't very strong in that area anyway.

Marc

Hi Marc,

I won't be doing the hole on the standard production versions, but I have no problem doing little mods to our parts when necessary. 

Go to my site and place the order. I have raw sets going to the coater tomorrow. I'll add the holes you want to a set just for you before I drop them off. I will need to see the exact location you want it too since I don't have a set of hinges here to locte the spot without your help.. I'd need to see something before morning since I have to get my stuff to him early tomorrow. See, that was easy...

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Eric_MA
Posted 2010-08-08 11:32 AM (#66673 - in reply to #66669)
Subject: RE: CycleOps Color Matched Uppers and Lowers


Cruiser

Posts: 109
Sturbridge, Ma
Hey Will,

Will you ever think you will making the brackets to place the lowers on the bike? I can't see buying a clear set just for brackets? Just wondering? I would like to get a set of the Burgandy ones for both, top and lowers? But how do I get a discount if i wanted to purchase? Do i need to join somewhere or how can I get the discount code?

Thanks,
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marcparnes
Posted 2010-08-08 12:05 PM (#66675 - in reply to #66669)
Subject: RE: CycleOps Color Matched Uppers and Lowers


Iron Butt

Posts: 802
CycleOps USA - 2010-08-08 7:15 AM

Hi Marc,

I won't be doing the hole on the standard production versions, but I have no problem doing little mods to our parts when necessary. 

Go to my site and place the order. I have raw sets going to the coater tomorrow. I'll add the holes you want to a set just for you before I drop them off. I will need to see the exact location you want it too since I don't have a set of hinges here to locte the spot without your help.. I'd need to see something before morning since I have to get my stuff to him early tomorrow. See, that was easy...

Hi Will,
I just figured out a way to adjust them without adding a hole so no need. I'm ready to order a set. What is the coupon code?

Marc

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VaParadox
Posted 2010-08-08 1:21 PM (#66679 - in reply to #63585)
Subject: RE: CycleOps Color Matched Uppers and Lowers


Iron Butt

Posts: 1158
Richmond, Virginia
Bud, your paint matched uppers look great........... But I can top that !! Great product by CycleOps!
Well worth the investment

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CycleOps USA
Posted 2010-08-08 2:49 PM (#66685 - in reply to #63585)
Subject: RE: CycleOps Color Matched Uppers and Lowers


Tourer

Posts: 323
N. Miami, Florida

Eric, I have a reasonable source for you for the OEM kit complete with the hinges for aboutï what I could offer them for, if not less. You have a PM.

Marc, You've got a PM too.

And Mac, they came out AWESOME! That look is simply friggin' fantastic! More pics! Did you do anything on the lowers too?

 

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VaParadox
Posted 2010-08-08 5:42 PM (#66688 - in reply to #63585)
Subject: Re: CycleOps Color Matched Uppers and Lowers


Iron Butt

Posts: 1158
Richmond, Virginia
Once I had the limited edition paint scheme on the bike, I noticed that right where the uppers hang is the spot that has the most intricate paint
job on the side of the fairing. With the uppers flush with the body, it disrupts the flow of the design, so as you know, I ordered a set of uppers and lowers pre prepped for paint, then took them to my paint guy. We placed the uppers in position and marked the design right onto them for matching scheme so when the uppers are flush the look is cohesive. When they are open, it looks like lightning bolt flaring out of the side of the bike. We considered doing something on the lowers but decided that keeping them black and sealed would look better then
"over blinging" the bike. I will post some more photos, but Im very happy on two levels. 1. Your lowers and uppers will never cause me to cuss again because they wont crack or chip. 2. I have a bike that is truly one of a kind.
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CycleOps USA
Posted 2010-08-09 1:22 PM (#66749 - in reply to #66688)
Subject: Re: CycleOps Color Matched Uppers and Lowers


Tourer

Posts: 323
N. Miami, Florida

VaParadox - 2010-08-08 6:42 PM Once I had the limited edition paint scheme on the bike, I noticed that right where the uppers hang is the spot that has the most intricate paint job on the side of the fairing. With the uppers flush with the body, it disrupts the flow of the design, so as you know, I ordered a set of uppers and lowers pre prepped for paint, then took them to my paint guy. We placed the uppers in position and marked the design right onto them for matching scheme so when the uppers are flush the look is cohesive. When they are open, it looks like lightning bolt flaring out of the side of the bike. We considered doing something on the lowers but decided that keeping them black and sealed would look better then "over blinging" the bike. I will post some more photos, but Im very happy on two levels. 1. Your lowers and uppers will never cause me to cuss again because they wont crack or chip. 2. I have a bike that is truly one of a kind.

Mac, if you're happy, I'm happy, and I agree fully on both points.

 

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ScoreBo
Posted 2010-08-09 2:09 PM (#66751 - in reply to #63585)
Subject: Re: CycleOps Color Matched Uppers and Lowers


Iron Butt

Posts: 1117
Northeast Ohio
How well does the SSG match? Anyone?
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CycleOps USA
Posted 2010-08-09 2:39 PM (#66753 - in reply to #66751)
Subject: Re: CycleOps Color Matched Uppers and Lowers


Tourer

Posts: 323
N. Miami, Florida

ScoreBo - 2010-08-09 3:09 PM How well does the SSG match? Anyone?

I actually just switched out the SSG to a new powder blend and the match is pretty darn good. The primary difference in paint and powder coat is the gloss of clear coated paint being deeper than a powder coated finish. Other than that, it's as close as it can be.

Here's a few pics of the first part to hit the streets in the new SSG mated powder coat, plus a few mounted up. What do you think?

 

 

 

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sgiacci
Posted 2010-08-09 2:53 PM (#66759 - in reply to #63585)
Subject: RE: CycleOps Color Matched Uppers and Lowers


Tourer

Posts: 401
It isn't often that I agree with the manufacturers design method, but in this case I do. The clear deflectors don't take away from the bikes lines, but these painted ones (or chrome) make a different set of lines.

I just wish you could make us a set of transparent aluminum ones.
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sgiacci
Posted 2010-08-09 3:00 PM (#66762 - in reply to #63585)
Subject: RE: CycleOps Color Matched Uppers and Lowers


Tourer

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opps dble post

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CycleOps USA
Posted 2010-08-09 3:00 PM (#66764 - in reply to #66759)
Subject: RE: CycleOps Color Matched Uppers and Lowers


Tourer

Posts: 323
N. Miami, Florida

sgiacci - 2010-08-09 3:53 PM It isn't often that I agree with the manufacturers design method, but in this case I do. The clear deflectors don't take away from the bikes lines, but these painted ones (or chrome) make a different set of lines. I just wish you could make us a set of transparent aluminum ones.

Give them just enough time to yellow and/or get marred up by road boogies. Then they simply look  n a s t y !

As for clear aluminum, I'm working on that one now. So far the only thing I came up with were invisible ones. Send me your info and I'll bill you out for a set that you'll never see!

 

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sgiacci
Posted 2010-08-09 3:18 PM (#66766 - in reply to #66764)
Subject: RE: CycleOps Color Matched Uppers and Lowers


Tourer

Posts: 401
CycleOps USA - 2010-08-09 3:00 PM

sgiacci - 2010-08-09 3:53 PM It isn't often that I agree with the manufacturers design method, but in this case I do. The clear deflectors don't take away from the bikes lines, but these painted ones (or chrome) make a different set of lines. I just wish you could make us a set of transparent aluminum ones.

Give them just enough time to yellow and/or get marred up by road boogies. Then they simply look� n a s t y !

As for clear aluminum, I'm working on that one now. So far the only thing I came up with were invisible ones. Send me your info and I'll bill you out for a set that you'll never see!

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Good point, but yellowing is caused by using the wrong detergets to clean them (ie. glass cleaner).  Glass cleaner is a big no no on unpainted plastic. Road snot, hmmm, not much can be done about that.  Cracking is the biggest concern I have.

I just love the lines of the bike, and those deflectors change those lines to something like NOPI.  But you do need them to keep cool or warm.

That set with the matching paint and stipes might change my mind, I wish I could see more shots of that concept.  Solid colors like the OPs aren't my mug of beer.

BTW, I already traded in my invisable ones in for the visable ones, and the visable ones work much better.

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sgiacci
Posted 2010-08-09 3:20 PM (#66767 - in reply to #63585)
Subject: RE: CycleOps Color Matched Uppers and Lowers


Tourer

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OH CRAP, brain storm just happened.

How about making some pull off protectors like the ones used on race windshields, and MX goggles!!!
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CycleOps USA
Posted 2010-08-09 4:34 PM (#66776 - in reply to #66766)
Subject: RE: CycleOps Color Matched Uppers and Lowers


Tourer

Posts: 323
N. Miami, Florida
sgiacci - 2010-08-09 4:18 PM

BTW, I already traded in my invisable ones in for the visable ones, and the visable ones work much better.

Have it your way, but if you run into any invisible wind you'll be sorry you didn't have the right ones on!

 

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CycleOps USA
Posted 2010-08-09 4:37 PM (#66777 - in reply to #66767)
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Tourer

Posts: 323
N. Miami, Florida

sgiacci - 2010-08-09 4:20 PM OH CRAP, brain storm just happened. How about making some pull off protectors like the ones used on race windshields, and MX goggles!!!

Now that, my friend, would add oodles and oodles to the fugly factor for sure! Unless you plan on doin' some mud boggin' on your Vision that is.

 

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sgiacci
Posted 2010-08-10 8:10 PM (#66846 - in reply to #66777)
Subject: RE: CycleOps Color Matched Uppers and Lowers


Tourer

Posts: 401
CycleOps USA - 2010-08-09 4:37 PM

sgiacci - 2010-08-09 4:20 PM OH CRAP, brain storm just happened. How about making some pull off protectors like the ones used on race windshields, and MX goggles!!!

Now that, my friend, would add oodles and oodles�to the fugly factor for sure! Unless you plan on doin' some mud boggin' on your Vision that is.

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UGLY!  Are you saying you are not up to the challenge?  I'm disappointed.

My Vision is a tool and it might get cleaned every 3,000mi., and a tool like rip offs would work for me.  Hell let's go one step further, how about doing it for the windshield too.

As an artist I respect your work Will, but much of it isn't my taste.  That's ok, you have a good group of folks who love your stuff.

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ebayjoe
Posted 2010-08-10 8:33 PM (#66851 - in reply to #63585)
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Cruiser

Posts: 113
East Ohio
the newer ssg look much better than the original ones that came darker than the bike, but better than the black

go super steel
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CycleOps USA
Posted 2010-08-10 8:48 PM (#66855 - in reply to #66846)
Subject: RE: CycleOps Color Matched Uppers and Lowers


Tourer

Posts: 323
N. Miami, Florida
sgiacci - 2010-08-10 9:10 PM CycleOps USA - 2010-08-09 4:37 PM

sgiacci - 2010-08-09 4:20 PM OH CRAP, brain storm just happened. How about making some pull off protectors like the ones used on race windshields, and MX goggles!!!

Now that, my friend, would add oodles and oodles to the fugly factor for sure! Unless you plan on doin' some mud boggin' on your Vision that is.

UGLY!  Are you saying you are not up to the challenge?  I'm disappointed.

My Vision is a tool and it might get cleaned every 3,000mi., and a tool like rip offs would work for me.  Hell let's go one step further, how about doing it for the windshield too.

As an artist I respect your work Will, but much of it isn't my taste.  That's ok, you have a good group of folks who love your stuff.

I didn't take your comments as any sort of bashing so I don't understand the sudden tone of your post. Steven, I was simply playing and bantering with you, which seem tlike you may have mistaken for something else, so I just want to be sure you know there was nothing intended in my post to warrant that. I appreciate the respect for the work and do know I don't expect my parts to be to everyones' tastes, their needs, or their budgets for that matter. That would be impossible and I'm a realist. As a fellow artist you well understand we all have a certain style all our own or we wouldn't be considered artists in the first place, right? Do we sometimes deviate some, but that core style defines us from others.

Many have sought for me to make simpler, more utilitarian items, and I'm just not into most of those types of items. As a custom item for someone, sure, but not such production parts. I prefer to let the creative juices flow and enjoy doing what I like to do.  

I'm sure you'll also agree that many can do common cookie cutter parts and designs and I like to think of mine as a bit more innovative in one way or another, original and fresh in design and/or artwork, and quality engrained it them from concept to completion. All I can do beyond that is hope that enough out there do like them and feel them worthy to add to their bikes.

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VaParadox
Posted 2010-08-10 10:11 PM (#66863 - in reply to #63585)
Subject: Re: CycleOps Color Matched Uppers and Lowers


Iron Butt

Posts: 1158
Richmond, Virginia
If you want, I will get some more pics posted up here tomorrow of my painted ones. FYI I too thought the exact same way at first, i thought that the uppers and lowers on the bike would alter its design form. After a season of burning my legs from engine heat, I decided that
after seeing a pair of clear ones on a gray VV, I could "stand" the look. In all honesty, in about 2 days, I didnt notice them anymore and actually thought that the lowers added a "fin" to the bottom of the bike which was pretty cool. I also noticed that once moving, they cleared out all of that engine heat and at that point I didnt care what they looked like LOL. The subject became sore when I cracked my plastic ones from an "ever so gentle" opening of them to wash them. Then i cussed like the sailor i used to be "GD PIECES OF GD SHIT blah blah blah. I had heard from several of you who had your crack, and thought "well now i will just baby mine and it wont happen to me" WRONG !
CycleOps to the rescue, I can tell you guys (even you cheap guys), BUY THEM ! Its a great fit and finish and one less thing you will
NEVER have to worry about again.
Will post more pics tomorrow.
Mac
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sgiacci
Posted 2010-08-11 12:01 AM (#66873 - in reply to #66863)
Subject: Re: CycleOps Color Matched Uppers and Lowers


Tourer

Posts: 401
VaParadox - 2010-08-10 10:11 PM

If you want, I will get some more pics posted up here tomorrow of my painted ones. FYI I too thought the exact same way at first, i thought that the uppers and lowers on the bike would alter its design form. After a season of burning my legs from engine heat, I decided that
after seeing a pair of clear ones on a gray VV, I could "stand" the look. In all honesty, in about 2 days, I didnt notice them anymore and actually thought that the lowers added a "fin" to the bottom of the bike which was pretty cool. I also noticed that once moving, they cleared out all of that engine heat and at that point I didnt care what they looked like LOL. The subject became sore when I cracked my plastic ones from an "ever so gentle" opening of them to wash them. Then i cussed like the sailor i used to be "GD PIECES OF GD SHIT blah blah blah. I had heard from several of you who had your crack, and thought "well now i will just baby mine and it wont happen to me" WRONG !
CycleOps to the rescue, I can tell you guys (even you cheap guys), BUY THEM ! Its a great fit and finish and one less thing you will
NEVER have to worry about again.
Will post more pics tomorrow.
Mac



Please post more pics, you might just sway me. Different angles, with them open and closed would be awesome.
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sgiacci
Posted 2010-08-11 12:34 AM (#66874 - in reply to #66855)
Subject: RE: CycleOps Color Matched Uppers and Lowers


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CycleOps USA - 2010-08-10 8:48 PM

sgiacci - 2010-08-10 9:10 PM CycleOps USA - 2010-08-09 4:37 PM

sgiacci - 2010-08-09 4:20 PM OH CRAP, brain storm just happened. How about making some pull off protectors like the ones used on race windshields, and MX goggles!!!

Now that, my friend, would add oodles and oodles to the fugly factor for sure! Unless you plan on doin' some mud boggin' on your Vision that is.

UGLY!� Are you saying you are not up to the challenge?� I'm disappointed.

My Vision is a tool and it might get cleaned every 3,000mi., and a tool like�rip offs�would work for me.��Hell let's go one step further, how about doing it�for the windshield too.

As an artist I respect your�work Will, but much of it isn't my taste.� That's ok, you have a good group of folks who love your stuff.

I didn't take your comments as any sort of bashing so I don't understand the sudden tone of your post. Steven, I was simply playing and bantering with you, which�seem tlike you may have mistaken for something else, so I just want to be sure you know there was nothing intended in my post to warrant that. I appreciate the respect for the work and�do know I don't expect my parts to be to everyones' tastes, their needs, or their budgets for that matter. That would be impossible and I'm a realist. As a fellow artist you well understand we all have a certain style all our own or we wouldn't be considered artists in the first place, right? Do we sometimes deviate some, but that core style defines us from others.

Many have sought for me to make simpler, more utilitarian items, and I'm just not into most of those types of items. As a custom item for someone, sure, but not such production parts. I prefer to let the creative juices flow and enjoy doing�what I like to do. �

I'm sure you'll also agree that�many can do common cookie cutter parts and designs and I like to think of mine as a bit more innovative in one way or another, original and fresh in design and/or artwork, and quality engrained it them from concept to completion. All I can do beyond that�is hope that�enough out there�do like them and feel them worthy to add to their bikes.

Tone? No tone, I'm having fun with you too.  So we can continue to banter each other.  Here goes.

Your not into plastics, so I didn't have any real expectations of you to do some cheap china plastic guards.  You caved to quickly there pal, and got on the defensive.  Bantering - remember?  Not sure if you ever were in design school, but if you were your skin would be like elephant hind.  I got my ass handed to me many times over designs I did, and it made me pretty thick skinned.

Even though you haven't done a design I would buy (yet), I have seen your products in person, and they are built like brick sh1t houses.  Your workmanship is top notch - keep it up.  A few years ago I was considering having you fabricate some designs I had for my bike, but I didn't think I could afford you.  So I didn't, and besides I like to support local workers when I can.  This is really moot, considering I just bought a 3rd bike (Vision), an I don't think I will have any money soon.  Unless you want to trade your machine work for the rights of some of my designs (CAD).

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CycleOps USA
Posted 2010-08-11 11:31 AM (#66906 - in reply to #66874)
Subject: RE: CycleOps Color Matched Uppers and Lowers


Tourer

Posts: 323
N. Miami, Florida
sgiacci - 2010-08-11 1:34 AM CycleOps USA - 2010-08-10 8:48 PM

sgiacci - 2010-08-10 9:10 PM CycleOps USA - 2010-08-09 4:37 PM

sgiacci - 2010-08-09 4:20 PM OH CRAP, brain storm just happened. How about making some pull off protectors like the ones used on race windshields, and MX goggles!!!

Now that, my friend, would add oodles and oodles to the fugly factor for sure! Unless you plan on doin' some mud boggin' on your Vision that is.

UGLY!� Are you saying you are not up to the challenge?� I'm disappointed.

My Vision is a tool and it might get cleaned every 3,000mi., and a tool like�rip offs�would work for me.��Hell let's go one step further, how about doing it�for the windshield too.

As an artist I respect your�work Will, but much of it isn't my taste.� That's ok, you have a good group of folks who love your stuff.

I didn't take your comments as any sort of bashing so I don't understand the sudden tone of your post. Steven, I was simply playing and bantering with you, which�seem tlike you may have mistaken for something else, so I just want to be sure you know there was nothing intended in my post to warrant that. I appreciate the respect for the work and�do know I don't expect my parts to be to everyones' tastes, their needs, or their budgets for that matter. That would be impossible and I'm a realist. As a fellow artist you well understand we all have a certain style all our own or we wouldn't be considered artists in the first place, right? Do we sometimes deviate some, but that core style defines us from others.

Many have sought for me to make simpler, more utilitarian items, and I'm just not into most of those types of items. As a custom item for someone, sure, but not such production parts. I prefer to let the creative juices flow and enjoy doing�what I like to do. �

I'm sure you'll also agree that�many can do common cookie cutter parts and designs and I like to think of mine as a bit more innovative in one way or another, original and fresh in design and/or artwork, and quality engrained it them from concept to completion. All I can do beyond that�is hope that�enough out there�do like them and feel them worthy to add to their bikes.

Tone? No tone, I'm having fun with you too.  So we can continue to banter each other.  Here goes.

Your not into plastics, so I didn't have any real expectations of you to do some cheap china plastic guards.  You caved to quickly there pal, and got on the defensive.  Bantering - remember?  Not sure if you ever were in design school, but if you were your skin would be like elephant hind.  I got my ass handed to me many times over designs I did, and it made me pretty thick skinned.

Even though you haven't done a design I would buy (yet), I have seen your products in person, and they are built like brick sh1t houses.  Your workmanship is top notch - keep it up.  A few years ago I was considering having you fabricate some designs I had for my bike, but I didn't think I could afford you.  So I didn't, and besides I like to support local workers when I can.  This is really moot, considering I just bought a 3rd bike (Vision), an I don't think I will have any money soon.  Unless you want to trade your machine work for the rights of some of my designs (CAD).

Okey Dokey then, no harm, no foul. As an Italian Type A Ex-NYer, my skin's tougher than elephant hide due to a good tanning growing up . Too many things get misconstrued when playing around with someone on forums and just wanted to be sure things weren't misconstrued, that's all.

Never did the design school thing, I'm pretty much self taught, having graduated the School of Hard Knocks and then on to an advanced degree at Catatonic State. I was big into art growing up, from charcoals, to oil painting and everything in between including lots of doodling. That combined with being a highly schooled mechanic with a gear head mind, coming up with things is only limited by the imagination.

If you ever want to pick back up on turning those designs into a reality let me know as my resources have expanded greatly since we last spoke about it.

As for your kind words on my goods, I thank you and am glad you felt that way as coming from someone else who turns thoughts into realities it means a lot.

 

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marcparnes
Posted 2010-08-25 12:16 PM (#67860 - in reply to #63585)
Subject: RE: CycleOps Color Matched Uppers and Lowers


Iron Butt

Posts: 802

Just wanted to add my $.02. I originally ordered Will's lowers in order to insure that I didn't have trouble with the plastic ones since I like to use my feet to adjust them. Much to my surprise not only did they get rid of the plastic breakage potential but they look fantastic on the bike. So much so that I subsequently ordered the uppers as well. What I really like is that they kind of disappear when you look at the bike (which is black on black) from the side whereas the plastic ones stuck out like a sore thumb. Even my wife who doesn't usually notice or care about stuff like this, walked by the bike in the garage yesterday and stopped to tell me how much better it looked even though at first she didn't quite know why.

Anyway, I highly recommend getting a set. Lotsa bank for the buck

Marc

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varyder
Posted 2010-08-25 1:26 PM (#67865 - in reply to #63585)
Subject: Re: CycleOps Color Matched Uppers and Lowers


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
I have not purcahsed any from Will yet, I will say they look to be the best aftermarket for the Vision. IF I were to go with the lowers, it would definitely be color match from cycleops. Now if he could do real metal chrome or color match passenger grabs that would be the deal.
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CycleOps USA
Posted 2010-08-25 1:58 PM (#67870 - in reply to #63585)
Subject: RE: CycleOps Color Matched Uppers and Lowers


Tourer

Posts: 323
N. Miami, Florida

Marc, I thiank you a ton for the kind words, it's been a pleasure meeting you and doing business you, so do know it's all been greatly appreciated.

And Chris, from my understanding those handles are plastic, ABS, or similar, right? I though Mac (VaParadox) already offered those in chrome? If he's not using the regular triple chrome (copper/nickel/chromium) I do have a guy who works in conjunction with my regular chromer to do regular chrome on plastic if you want it. As for powder coating, for obvious reasons that wouldn't work on anything non-metallic.

 

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varyder
Posted 2010-08-25 2:28 PM (#67871 - in reply to #63585)
Subject: Re: CycleOps Color Matched Uppers and Lowers


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
I'm talking about a set made with metal, not plastic. I know it would be difficult but thought you'd be up for the task at a reasonable cost.

Edited by varyder 2010-08-25 2:29 PM
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CycleOps USA
Posted 2010-08-25 2:42 PM (#67872 - in reply to #67871)
Subject: Re: CycleOps Color Matched Uppers and Lowers


Tourer

Posts: 323
N. Miami, Florida

Gotcha. They're pretty long and with the thickness will require quite a good sized chunk of material, and a lot of machining time to do them, so I'm not sure they'll fall into an acceptable price range with all that involved.

Casting them in a mold is a different story, but also with a big initial set up cost initially to make the molds for metal as they'd have to be made of steel to handle the melting of aluminum.

Something fabricated in a different way though may work out cheaper. Like possibly cutting them out with the waterjet, but then doing the final shaping by hand (which is still somewhat labor intensive and time consuming), and then drilling and tapping to add the mounting studs.

If I knew there was going to be a big enough market I'd consider looking into it further.  

 

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varyder
Posted 2010-08-25 3:03 PM (#67873 - in reply to #63585)
Subject: Re: CycleOps Color Matched Uppers and Lowers


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
that's it, I was thinking a different shape too, a sweep back looking like a 59 caddy fin but not as pronounced and flowing with the Vision lines.
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stretch1956
Posted 2010-08-27 10:43 AM (#68041 - in reply to #63585)
Subject: RE: CycleOps Color Matched Uppers and Lowers


Cruiser

Posts: 82
Fargo, ND
Will,
My hat (helmet) is off to you . I got my lowers and installed them ... MAN WHAT A DIFFERENCE!!!
They not only enhance the lines of the bike, they work so much better than the stock ones. I dont worry about moving them with the toe of my boot (size 17). The plastic ones seem to cringe every time my boot came close. They got so scared they actually flew off my bike on my way to sturgis. I guess Victory had a problem with a batch of 3m tape that came with them. Victory came thru and replaced them no questions asked. They didnt even want the pieces I salvaged from the highway after their flight. I was able to find all of the hardware needed to mount CycleOps' blades. I returned the factory set for a full refund and ordered my lowers from you Will. I ended up saving about $50,00 and I am stoked! They look great. I will be ordering the uppers very soon.
Stretch
2009 VV tour Premium
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CycleOps USA
Posted 2010-08-27 2:22 PM (#68056 - in reply to #68041)
Subject: RE: CycleOps Color Matched Uppers and Lowers


Tourer

Posts: 323
N. Miami, Florida

stretch1956 - 2010-08-27 11:43 AM Will, My hat (helmet) is off to you . I got my lowers and installed them ... MAN WHAT A DIFFERENCE!!! They not only enhance the lines of the bike, they work so much better than the stock ones. I dont worry about moving them with the toe of my boot (size 17). The plastic ones seem to cringe every time my boot came close. They got so scared they actually flew off my bike on my way to sturgis. I guess Victory had a problem with a batch of 3m tape that came with them. Victory came thru and replaced them no questions asked. They didnt even want the pieces I salvaged from the highway after their flight. I was able to find all of the hardware needed to mount CycleOps' blades. I returned the factory set for a full refund and ordered my lowers from you Will. I ended up saving about $50,00 and I am stoked! They look great. I will be ordering the uppers very soon. Stretch 2009 VV tour Premium

Thanks a lot Stretch, very kind of you to say all that and I'm thrilled to hear that you feel that way. There's nothing I like more than hearing my customers total satisfaction with their parts. How about some pics and show 'em off some????

 

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