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| How many agree that the Vision engine is adequate and stage 1 or 2 is not needed and have left thier bike stock. |
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New Bohemia, VA | Banjo - 2010-05-14 10:26 AM
How many agree that the Vision engine is adequate and stage 1 or 2 is not needed and have left thier bike stock.
Me, me, me, and me. Did I say me? With that said, IF I had more power I'd probably be dead by now so I appreciate the implied restraint of not having upgraded the Bentley so far. I have NEVER been in any circumstance where I felt I needed more power, pull or speed on the Vision. Coming off the GL1200 where I had to pull back many times as there was just not enough to accomplish what I needed to do, the Vision is a vast improvement over that.
I have also hit the highest limit I care to ride on an American highway and will say I had no need of doing that either. I will not state the top speed I have been so as not to increminate myself, but can say it got there before I knew it and rode like it was meant to. I was in shock when I glanced at the speedo and felt like a fool since. My wife would take away my keys if she only knew.
Edited by varyder 2010-05-14 9:36 AM
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Iron Butt
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North Orange County CA | I have yet to find a situation where I needed more torque / HP than I have. Geared up the wife and I are probably pushing to within a hundred lbs of the GVWR.
Would I like a Kevinx installed Lloyds Cam and a VFC?
Absolutely!
Do I need it?
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Georgia, west of Atlanta | I agree, it runs fine stock, there are some of us that always just want a little or alot more power............ |
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Indianapolis, IN | Only had mine about two months, 3500 miles, and I'm totally satisfied to date. In addition to what everyone has said so far, about 80 % of my miles are two up with my better half. The bike has plenty of spare power when needed.
I know a lot of guys like the sound they get from the performance exhausts, but it don't care about that, and I really don't like all the complications brought about when you change the balance designed into the bike's power system. |
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Belding Michigan | I have run stock and I love it not only do I have plenty of power I saved a bunch of money and I can hear the XM radio at 75 MPH with it set on 7 no noise maker to have to compete with so all in all for my money the best way to go. This is being said by a man who once looked at a sugercharged Vallkrye with nitrous and said I would ride it at least once jsut to see what it would be like. Go figure. Archie |
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| Mines bone stock and it is plenty. Of course if one is inclined to like a wee bit more excitement the Lloyds upgrade would be the way to go. My understanding is that efficiency is greatly improved with that upgrade, but I have no pops or other issues so why tempt fate...... |
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Chattanooga, TN | Ditto. I have a friend who has a S1L1 kit on his, he rode mine one day and said he wouldn't have done his if he knew then what he knows now. Not that it was a major problem or anything, it was just a pain to get it right and it had to be downloaded more than once etc. I think he did it more to impress his Harley buddies than anything. Why would you want to change it? So you can't hear the radio as well? When I have a little more cash than I am comfortable with in my back pocket or under my mattress, I think I will go for the Lloydz cam upgrade, though. |
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Memphis | The engine is totally adequate stock, I went S1L1 because the tranny whine early on was the loudest I had ever heard and I just liked the throatier sound of the exhaust. I listen to XM at 8/9 and that's more because of wind pressure than the exhaust. |
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Pitt Meadows, BC Canada | For the last 30 years, I have owned bikes that would do the 1/4 in less than 13 seconds. This translates into very quick passing and spirited real-world performance. My stock VV with Stage I was not up to the level that I was used to.
My KevinXinated VV now performs like my much lighter/quicker bikes. HAPPINESS IS..... more power!
At age 66 I still drive agressively - and have always owned spirited automobiles for that reason. And I drive wisely - have not had any accidents or moving violations for at least 30 years. Last accident was 48 years ago. (... touch wood <grin> )
Thanks, Kevin ! |
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Allen Park, MI | SongFan - 2010-05-14 8:17 PM
The engine is totally adequate stock, I went S1L1 because the tranny whine early on was the loudest I had ever heard and I just liked the throatier sound of the exhaust.? I listen to XM at 8/9 and that's more because of wind pressure than the exhaust.
Couldn't agree more.. they're fine stock....but having made the upgrades that I have with a good dyno tune...I think she's spot on. I have always appreciated making the big air pumps breath more efficiently. Easy in + easy out = a few more HP???,, I'm ok with that..  Even having the exhaust upgrade I have Zero problem hearing the radio at highway speed....well with a couple Alpines up front. So I guess I'm not understanding why, by making these beast's breathe better there are more problems?? However if I didn't have the ability to do these things would stock be satisfactory??? Undoubtedly....just this guys 2 cents.
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| XRsteve - 2010-05-14 7:22 AM
I agree, it runs fine stock, there are some of us that always just want a little or alot more power............
Me too, I upgraded not out of necessity but desire. |
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Northeastern Penna. | Stock is great with the engine this size. Who wants to go faster with more power on 2 wheels? Not I ! |
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Lennox, SD | I plan to leave my Vision completely stock, I spent several thousand dollars trying to make my last bike ride and handle like a touring bike.
I decided on the Vision because everything is already there. |
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LaPorte,Tx. | varyder, correct me if I'm wrong...doesn't the stock motor have a better power curve (remember it's not about the numbers) when riding in the snow. Now where is that posting of the power curve?  |
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Iron Butt
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Central New York | Totally stock and lov'in. No backfire, no pops, good idle, and good mpg. 
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New Bohemia, VA | VisionTex - 2010-05-15 10:47 AM
varyder, correct me if I'm wrong...doesn't the stock motor have a better power curve (remember it's not about the numbers) when riding in the snow. Now where is that posting of the power curve?
Yes! Brings a new meaning to "Romancing the Throttle"
(and you would have to remind me, now I'll have nightmares of tractor-rigs ridin' my tail across ice-covered bridges on the deadliest road in the world... lOl) |
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Prescott, Az | donetracey - 2010-05-15 5:55 PM
For the last 30 years, I have owned bikes that would do the 1/4 in less than 13 seconds. This translates into very quick passing and spirited real-world performance. My stock VV with Stage I was not up to the level that I was used to.
My KevinXinated VV now performs like my much lighter/quicker bikes. HAPPINESS IS..... more power!
At age 66 I still drive agressively - and have always owned spirited automobiles for that reason. And I drive wisely - have not had any accidents or moving violations for at least 30 years. Last accident was 48 years ago. (... touch wood )
Thanks, Kevin !
+1 I kept mine stock for over a year and loved it. Now I have the S1L2, Ness airbox, and KevinX magic with the LLoyds and I love a whole lot more. |
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Centennial, CO | While stock was fine, I did upgrade mine to a L2 AND cams! Why? Simple, I live at altitude (5280 feet) to start. IF I decide to hit the mountains, I can climb those in 6th gear fully loaded with me, a HUGE back on trunk and my GF behind me. The bike performed fine stock but it was just a bit wimp'ish. The first change was to the L2s and that helped. The second add was to the cams and now I am no longer shifting from 2 to 3 and back to 2 when going over strong grades. It has made the rides nicer and my work much less. This thing rocks at altitude now. I rode to Vegas a year or so ago and DAMN THIS THING PULLS hard! Woohoo!
So, knowing what it does in Vegas, I will add that I would not have changed a thing had I been at a lower altitude. |
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