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Puddle Jumper
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| I know there are a ton of threads about speakers but I'm not seeing any on the depth. Looking to swap my speakers out but J&M and Victory both don't list the depth info on their speakers.
I went to a local car audio place and the installation guy was drooling over my vision but he's never done one and doesn't know what will and won't.
Has anyone measured the depth and the magnet size that will fit without cutting?
Crutchfield recommended two speakers to me but I'm not sure if either will work.
Here are the links
Polk:
http://www.crutchfield.com/p_107DB521/Polk-Audio-db521.html?tp=97&t...
Infinity:
http://www.crutchfield.com/p_1085032CF/Infinity-Reference-5032cf.ht...
Now just looking at the picture the magnet on the Infinity looks huge but I have no idea.
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Cruiser
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| You have about 3" with the speaker volumes installed. You could remove them, but you would loose any low end. |
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Puddle Jumper
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| 3"? Nice then both of those speakers should work then. Thanks |
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Iron Butt
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Anderson, IN (48mi NE of downtown Indianapolis) | The front speaker enclosure depth on the Vision is shallow compared to a car. The rear speaker hole is bottomless, but the trunk's sides curve inward and will contact a large diameter magnet. I used a hair dryer to form the plastic around the speaker.
See my posting in this thread explaining how to do this:
http://www.Vision-riders.com/bb/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=2301&sta...
There is a link to pics and captions of the installation process in that posting.
The Infinity Reference series has very good sound quality. The Reference series has always had high reviews. They are crisp and clean with very good high frequency response. I'm not sure how either the Polks or the Infinities will handle the outdoors. I have never used them is such application.
I can measure the exact depth of the front enclosures when I get home tonight and post it here. |
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Puddle Jumper
Posts: 47
| victoryvisiontour - 2010-04-16 1:57 PM
The front speaker enclosure depth on the Vision is shallow compared to a car. The rear speaker hole is bottomless, but the trunk's sides curve inward and will contact a large diameter magnet. I used a hair dryer to form the plastic around the speaker.
See my posting in this thread explaining how to do this:
http://www.Vision-riders.com/bb/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=2301&sta...
There is a link to pics and captions of the installation process in that posting.
The Infinity Reference series has very good sound quality. The Reference series has always had high reviews. They are crisp and clean with very good high frequency response. I'm not sure how either the Polks or the Infinities will handle the outdoors. I have never used them is such application.
I can measure the exact depth of the front enclosures when I get home tonight and post it here.
How difficult is it to install them? Say on a scale of 1 -5? I've never taken my vision apart and am a little hesitant about it. |
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Iron Butt
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Anderson, IN (48mi NE of downtown Indianapolis) | The depth of the front enclosure at the center of the hole is 2-3/8". The enclosure is not flat on the backside. It gets shallower as it reaches the edge of the hole. The shallowest depth is 1-1/8" at the edge of the hole. That is why the stock speaker magnet is only 1-3/8" diameter. Just FYI, the mounting depth of stock speaker is 1-7/8".
You can reshape the plastic enclosure for slightly bigger speaker with a hairdryer, but you can't go too far because the turn signal is in the way. This is why I replaced the enclosure with foam baffles from Crutchfield. They allow much more volume and a bigger magnet.
Also, the speakers you linked to are 4 ohm. The stock ones are 2. The 4 ohm speakers won't hurt anything, but it will take more power to drive them (you will have to switch the volume up more). You may lose some volume. The Infinities will be much cleaner though. Since Infinity makes efficient speakers (the ones in your link are 92.6dB), you might not notice a difference in volume if the stock ones are less efficient. I don't know the numbers of the stock ones so I can't say for sure.
Your best bet is to find 2 ohm speakers. You will get better sound quality and, most likely, get more volume before you reach the distortion level.
Good luck with your upgrade and let us know how it turns out. |
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Iron Butt
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Anderson, IN (48mi NE of downtown Indianapolis) | If you find a drop-in replacement, it is a 1. Very easy. |
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Puddle Jumper
Posts: 47
| I think I'll go with the foam baffles like you did. Great write up. Was it difficult to remove the old stock baffles?
I keep reading on here that people found the stock speakers to be 4ohms not 2? |
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Iron Butt
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Anderson, IN (48mi NE of downtown Indianapolis) | There is confusion as to whether the drivers are 2 or 4 ohm because they are actually neither. They are closer to 3. Nonetheless, the speakers in your link will work electronically. You will just have to double check the physical size.
The stock enclosures are held in with plastic screws. Remove the crome bezel from the gauges, remove the speaker grills, then remove the speakers. You can then remove the enclosures. |
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Puddle Jumper
Posts: 47
| Very cool. I was also looking at Infinity Kappas. Any idea which are a better series? Reference or Kappa?
Ahh nevermind. Crutchfield says Kappas need an amp. Looks like its Reference speakers for me lol
Edited by Rakk17 2010-04-16 8:24 PM
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