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Cruiser
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Marysville Washngton | So, I'm in the garage with my two sons and we are starting to put the bike back together after some paint and mods. It has been apart all winter. All night I keep asking the boys what the heck these two screws are for as all the parts are back on the bike. It was then that I noticed a piece of blue peeking out from behind some stuff on the work bench. The two trim pieces were from under the passenger grab handles and the two screws were to hold them in place UNDER THE GRAB HANDLES....NOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!  |
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Puddle Jumper
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Kansas City, MO | I hate when that happens! |
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Iron Butt
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Richmond, Virginia | Well unlike the gas grill that you buy from Home Depot where a couple of screws isnt gonna really matter,,,,, ya gotta take your two wheel grill apart a bit now................ reminds me that years ago my cousin bought a porche to re-build as a project while he lived at his parents house during summer off from college. They gave him the entire garage for the summer to take apart his POS porche engine and re-build it and put it back together.. His idea was to lay each part out on the ground in consecutive order all the way around the perimeter of the garage floor. Last piece off means first piece back on etc etc.... Well that was a great plan until he came home one day from his summer job and my aunt (his mother) thought she would be helpful so she got plastic trash bags and put all the pieces in several bags so the garage wasnt in such "disorder"..... first time i ever saw a grown man cry....... |
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Iron Butt
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Reno County, KS | Ha ha ha. We all share your pain. The Vision is quite a bit more trying on your patience than other cookie cutter bikes. Simple things like installing an OEM GPS mount require tear-down past the radio. But the good news is that there is a short cut for your grab handles in the tech reference section. It involves removing the pan underneath your seat. Just encase you haven't torn it back down yet or seen BA-Jackpot's post on this: http://www.vision-riders.com/bb/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=5227&pos...
This will also be a useful procedure when installing a hitch, led lighting, etc. It looks like it will shave quite a bit of time off of removing those rear grab handles, which I plan on doing soon again too. Seems I was born with the inability to leave things alone...
Hope this helps
Edited by bigwill5150 2010-02-16 10:53 PM
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Visionary
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| Feel your pain but we have all done it but some of us don't admit it.  It seems to happen when we do a job for the first time because we just don't have the experience. Bet you don't forget them the next time. |
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Tourer
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Goldsboro, NC | RedRider - 2010-02-17 7:54 AM
Feel your pain but we have all done it but some of us don't admit it. It seems to happen when we do a job for the first time because we just don't have the experience. Bet you don't forget them the next time.
Human beings, who are almost unique in having the ability to learn from the experience of others, are also remarkable for their apparent disinclination to do so. ~Douglas Adams, Last Chance to See
That is why we have all done it at one time or another.
But don't worry too much, once we do it to ourselves, we usually manage to learn:
- Experience is what you got by not having it when you need it.
- Good judgment comes from experience, and often experience comes from bad judgment. ~Rita Mae Brown
- Experience is what causes a person to make new mistakes instead of old ones.
- Idealism is what precedes experience; cynicism is what follows. ~David T. Wolf |
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Visionary
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Memphis | I would have had A LOT more than two screws left over. I know my limitations and this is why I paid my dealer to remove and replace all the parts when I decided to get it painted. By far the best $350 I have spent on my bike. (He'll probably charge more next time.) Those are all my pieces on the shelves in the background. I would have had nightmares dealing with it. 
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Cruiser
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Columbia, TN United States | Oh my, a naked vision!! |
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Cruiser
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Marysville Washngton | SongFan
I had mine that far apart except for the saddle bag covers. That was the only blue left on the bike. It is all back on now except for those #@!&%$ grab handle trim panels. That will be tonights project. |
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Visionary
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Memphis | V spot, I totally respect you guys who can get that deep into it. I orginally planned to have the bike apart for three days but because of weather (humidity) and scheduling conflicts, it was actually apart for nearly two weeks. Had that been in my garage, the VaParadox scenario would have surely played out and I would have had to trailer it to the dealer anyway for them to fix the mess. |
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Iron Butt
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Reno County, KS | SongFan - 2010-02-17 11:24 AM
I would have had A LOT more than two screws left over.? I know my limitations and this is why I paid my dealer to remove and replace all the parts when I decided to get it painted.? By far the best $350 I have spent on my bike.? (He'll probably charge more next time.)? Those are all my pieces on the shelves in the background.? I would have had nightmares dealing with it.
YES good call! I have done this once and am facing the fact that I have to do it about half-way again in the near future. Add to that the fact that I had to remove the complete console support under the instrument cluster and the rear saddle bag support and you'd see there wasn't much left. Part of tha was that I wanted to inspect EVERY suspect part down to the frame on the right hand side to make sure I had no further problems after laying her down hard in an accident. I must have went through 20-30 zip lock bags that I labeled sets of screws with (right upper fairing, rear saddle bag cover, instrument cluster, etc.) It turned out to be about a week of work for me. I'd gladly pay someone experienced $350 to $500 to replace the left outer leg fairing on my motorcycle. I'm just about sick of doing this. LOL |
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Visionary
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Ruskin, Fl | LOL! When I tore mine down to paint everything black, I had two different screws left over. One was a 6mm allen and the other was a smaller black allen head. About a month later I found where one of them came from. The other is still in my tool box. |
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Cruiser
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Okotoks, Alberta | Speaking of two screws, WHY do American made motorcycles insist on using every type of fastener known to man to hold their bikes together?? (metric, standard, torx, etc) |
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Visionary
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New Bohemia, VA | come on now, albeit a good question, but if they made them easy and common why would we need dealers, techs, special tools, etc. Also remember that engineers only think of building, not fixing. |
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Iron Butt
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Anderson, IN (48mi NE of downtown Indianapolis) | Various fasteners are usually spec'ed in because different project groups don't communicate with each other. It takes upper management to drive a global purchasing system throughout the corporation. It also has to go outside of the company to every sub-assembly supplier. It is a very challenging task. |
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Cruiser
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Marysville Washngton | Did the Dremmel trick and got the handles off no problem. Insert sigh of relief here. |
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Tourer
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Northeastern Penna. | On a side note, looking at your stripped down Vision, the R & D people certainly could have made the side bags larger ! |
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