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Florida | If you could change any features about the Vision, what would you want Victory to add as a standard or optional features?
Here's my wish list after two days of riding: (no particular order)
1) Reverse Gear (Okay, I'm a vertically challenged rider!)
2) Quick Release Mount for the GPS
3) Easier (tool-less) Release System for the Trunk
4) More Color Options (I'm sure this is coming)
5) Push Button Air Shock Control (no external pump required)
6) More Adjustment Options for the Windshield (need it to go another inch or two lower)
7) Adjustable Handlebars
8) Side Bags deep enough to hold a helmet
9) Better Stereo Speakers
10) Better FM Antenna (stronger signal strength)
11) Air Vents built into the fairing (like the GW)
Feel free to add to this thread. Victory seems like they type of company that welcomes positive input. I'm sure someone at the factory monitors this message board.
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Las Vegas, Nevada USA baby! | PalmBeachRider, I concur at this time. Other than adding
12. The windshield top edge could be without the flair. I am not sure if this bit of engineering for airflow is more important than the disruption of my vision at the edge.
13) Chrome the clutch and front brake fluid reservoirs on the premium models.
14) Turn signal and brakes operating the red lights on the tour pack.
15) Side reflectors should be lit. Hey the badges lite up, why not the side reflectors?
16) Premium model should come with power outlet, instead of as an accessory.
Anyhow, that's it for now. Okay, now I have to go for a ride. 'Vegas and SoNev weather is waiting for me. I have to put off my 500 mile service until next week because the weekend service folks at Arlen Ness here won't do it on my Vision. Oh well! If I have 750 miles or so by Monday, they said it would be okay! :-) |
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Iron Butt
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Southeast Iowa | Agree that trunk lights should function for brake and turn.
Agree speakers are weak............I should get my new ones next week.
Agree FM signal is weaker than it should be............I now use mostly XM.
Agree clutch and front brake fluid reservoirs should be chrome. While they are at it maybe they could chrome the forks too! Ha, Ha
Would like the rear tipover parts to be chrome like the front. When I add the chrome side covers, grille, access panel, rear valence, and inner fairing pcs. they will stick out like a sore thumb. Since they are bolted to the swingarm the will be costly to change or modify.
Would like to see chrome handles on the bags. Who at victory has the fetish with silver anyway? My wife's bike is a black and bronze Kingpin that came with a silver swingarm, pully, and controls. Why didn't they paint it black? God it was ugly! Had to buy chrome to make it look right.
Would like to see a better mount for the GPS. For a $1000 it should be able to be left on the bike without fear of it being stolen. The current one is held in place by a thin metal clip held down by a small screw. I think a 10 year old could pull it out of the bracket if he wanted to.
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Las Vegas, Nevada USA baby! | Yes that weird silver-gray they use reminds me of the industrial paint we used to cover aircraft tooling non-contact areas etc. Gloss black or chrome would probably be better looking.
I Just got back from a short 150 mile casino run to Searchlight NV - thru Nipton, CA, around to Primm/Stateline, NV back to 'Vegas. I just love the comfort of my Steel Gray Tour Premium. Electronic cruise control going over mountain passes is fantastic! I especially liked watching the computer readout of instantaneous mpg readout. 33 mpg uphill over the mountain at 62mph, and up to 70 mpg going down the other side. Average for the ride still came out to 40mpg.
I was trying to think of other things that I would change. Maybe a prerecorded audio walk-around tour for folks asking questions, like Kitt-Car? When someone asks about the bike, just push the audio tour button, and walk around pointing as the narration goes!!! |
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Las Vegas, Nevada USA baby! | I've got a question for all who are in the know. I've ridden shaft drive Beemers, and had the Nomad which was shaft drive. I wonder if they're lower maintainence, or not. I never could tell much of a handling difference worth crying about. That torque BS I heard about as a kid was nonsense. Would it hang a bunch more weight on the bike? I don't think it would be seen on a Vision. Might use up a little more saddle bag space, but really I don't hink it did on my Nomad. What else do ya'll think? |
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MN. | An 8 ball version! All blacked out! |
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Jasper, MO | In addition to the suggestions already made, I would like to see the Vision incorporate a shaft drive and single-sided swingarm like the BMW system that Honda incorporated into the GL1800. I know it's heavier and robs a little rear-wheel power, but the ease of servicing the rear tire more than makes up for it. I would also like to see the trunk running lights activated as brake lights and turn signals. A luxury touring bike like the Vision should also have a center stand: perhaps a system similar to the one on the Kawasaki Voyager XII. Those reguire very little effort to deploy and can easily lift a fully loaded touring bike with relative ease.
Ronnie
Edited by rdbudd 2008-02-17 12:57 PM
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Cruiser
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Stockton, Ca. | In addition to all of the previous suggestions
1. Better rear view mirror poisitioning, I'd rather see what is behind and on the side of me instead of my hands on the handlegrips.
2. For the Tour a break light built into the trunk or an option that fits between the trunk and optional luggage rack would be acceptable.
3. Heel Toe shifter.
4. Additional power outlets that are more accessable.
5. Seat Heating controls in the console instead of behind and under the passenger seat.
6. As for the possibility of a shaft drive, that is a great low maintenance feature but I think it would interfere with rear bag size and space. More side bag storage capacity would be nice.
7. A powered center stand like on the BMW LT.
Edited by okthenbye 2008-02-17 1:52 PM
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Florida | I like the powered center stand idea, but it wouldn't work for me as I have my Vision parked in my Golf Cart Gararge. It barely fits with only about five inches of front to rear clearance. If I remember correctly, my old Goldwing would rock back about ten inches when it was placed on the center stand. While it wouldn't fit in my space, it would be ideal for parking in other areas. Yes...ELECTRIC!
But, I'd rather have a reverse gear! |
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Florida | Here's one I forgot...
A Keyless Ignition
Just about every new car has this feature, why not have it on the Vision? |
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Iron Butt
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| Here are my 2 cents:
- Lighted control buttons. - 2 auxiliary radio inputs (e.g. iPOD and portable XM radio)
- Higher output stereo amplifier. - Relocated heated grip controls and driving light controls closer to driver instead of hidden behind the GPS. - Place the driver's heated seat controls up front next to heated grip controls. - Better use of existing saddlebags (larger storage, less wasted hinge space - as mentioned, helmet size would be great). - Move the rear tip over protection further back to prevent feet getting caught. - HID High/Low beams in addition to HID driving lights. - Turn signals in mirrors. - Better mirrors (behind and blind spot). - Others already listed above.
Edited by TimS 2008-02-17 11:12 PM
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Nebraska | If I could change anything. I would relocate the whole bike along with rider to a warmer location. |
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NW Illinois | Im with maddog |
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Tourer
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SC, Bluffton | A Stock, wired at the factory, intercomm system is a must on the tour. CB could be an accessory. It is
pure bull I would have to pay labor hours to have it installed, and still not have peace of mind the job
was done at factory standards.
A lower first & second gear. This is the first bike I have ridden that needs shifted into 1st when making a
90º turn. When my RPMs drop below 2,800, I don't feel the power, and I don't trust the 2nd gear 10-15
MPH turn in.
She is a looker, and my wife still comments how cool it is. |
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Visionary
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Memphis | Checking rear tire pressure (and adding air) is a pain. I'd like a tire pressure readout for both tires as part of the digital menu and a 90 degree bend on the rear valve stem to make access a lot easier. The Dunlop Elite 3's are really sensitive to tire pressure and even a 2-3 lb drop is noticeable in the handling. |
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Cruiser
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Valdosta, GA | The most advanced bike on the road should have a rider to passenger intercom as a standard feature. Period. Having the option to include a bike-to-bike is also a must, but could be an add-on. However, to limit this to CB only and then ONLY on the trou model is rediculous. I should be able to chose between CB, FRS, GMRS, and/or whatever Chatterbox uses. And in this day and age, the most thecnologically advanced bike on the market should offer a true wireless setup for bike-to-bike comm. I shouldn't have to wire my head to a motorcycle or hang a big bosx from my helmet to talk to the folks I'm riding with.
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Nebraska | SongFan - 2008-02-18 12:12 PM
Checking rear tire pressure (and adding air) is a pain. I'd like a tire pressure readout for both tires as part of the digital menu and a 90 degree bend on the rear valve stem to make access a lot easier. The Dunlop Elite 3's are really sensitive to tire pressure and even a 2-3 lb drop is noticeable in the handling.
Thats the best idea so far. That was my biggest complaint on the TC. There is a elbow adapter you can put on the stem.
Edited by maddog 2008-02-18 1:25 PM
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| mike s - 2008-02-18 10:13 AM
I shouldn't have to wire my head to a motorcycle or hang a big bosx from my helmet to talk to the folks I'm riding with.
I don't know of any unit that has wireless bike to bike communications. If you know of one please let me know. |
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Valdosta, GA | MRG - 2008-02-18 4:13 PM
mike s - 2008-02-18 10:13 AM
I shouldn't have to wire my head to a motorcycle or hang a big bosx from my helmet to talk to the folks I'm riding with.
I don't know of any unit that has wireless bike to bike communications. If you know of one please let me know.
Chatterbox has been working on the XB1 for a couple of years now. I don't know what the hang up is, but that latest word from Chatterbox is they will have it out by the end of the year. Others have heard as early as May...
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Florida | For wireless Bike to Bike, check this out: http://cardowireless.com/Q2
I'm using it for the phone, but have not purchased the second unit to try the Bluetooth intercom. They are stating a fairly long distance, 1,640 feet (for Bluetooth) for bike to bike (helmet to helmet) communications. I can vouch for the phone with this unit.
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Stockton, Ca. | For those riders looking for a communication solution. Blueant bluetooth headsets talk bike to bike, rider to rider and to your cell phone or any other bluetooth device. It is quite small and mounts to your helmet. The mic is noise canceling and sound is clear. It is completely wireless and abut $119.00 to buy 1. They also sell in pairs. I purchased a pair on ebay and they work great. Why wire something to the bike when today's tecnology is so available and inexpensive? Oh I forgot to say it works well with my cell and rider to rider. My wife doesn't have to bang on my helmet to slow down anymore...
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Visionary
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So Cal | I wish I had aq chance to see the colors in person before pre-ordering. Pictures dont do the super steel gray justice. The brushed al. panels are okay, but chrome should be standard on the premium. |
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Tourer
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Mount Vernon, WA United States | I would like to see a CVT option. I'm a big fan of shaft drives if done right. |
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Iron Butt
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29 Palms California | All the ideas above are good. Would like to add, on the stock bike, a longer (wider) toe shifter. Instead of that nub I hate missing between that little thing gears. |
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Tourer
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Tacoma, WA | How about some paint that isn't so SOFT?? It scratches just looking hard at it. That, and the mirror issue are my main gripes. I had a hard time seeing an ambulance behind me due to my hands being what my rear view mirrors show.....-----Metalguy |
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, FL United States | Ordered a pair of Blueant bluetooth headsets off of Ebay for $228 + s&h. Should be here in about a week. Will post my impressions in the Product Review area. No more being "wired" to each other whaahoo!!!!!!!!  |
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Cruiser
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Florida | Good Luck...I hope you get MORE than what you paid for. Bluetooth is a tricky technology and having a good internal battery is also a key element of the equation. Keep us posted. |
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Stockton, Ca. | I have the Blueant and it works no differently than my Motorola bluetooth headset except for the ability to receive a call by voice instead of touching a button which is a good thing. Pairing to a phone was easy and you then have to pair the headsets together for rider to rider. Battery life is ample for a 5 hour ride with more to spare. I have not used it longer than that so far. It is still pretty new so real battery life won't be evident until it is is in use for awhile. My Motorola is over 3 years old and still holds out for a full day.
CoolHandLuke, if you ordered from ChuppbCuteGirl on e-bay be patient. It may take a little longer, This Ebay seller is forgetful...
Edited by okthenbye 2008-02-19 11:36 PM
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Tacoma, WA | I checked both the wireless bluetooth headset links....$189. for 1. WAY different than about 119. ----Metalguy |
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| Why wont they do your service? They did mine when they put the front tire kit on...Eric in service is awesome..
Shane |
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Fountain Inn, SC United States | Just a nudge to stay on the topic,
"What Would Your Change About Your Vision?"
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Tourer
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northwest florida | intercom should be standard |
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Carrollton, TX | a99miata - 2008-02-20 6:13 PM intercom should be standard The intercom is tied to the CB so the only way to include the intercom would be to include the CB like Harley did this year due to how the electronics companies are now intergrating the two functions for good reason. My bet is Victory will include the CB and intercom with the premium tour in the 2009 model year. |
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Puddle Jumper
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Prescott, AZ | 1) ABS Brakes.
2) Electronic Tire Pressure Monitoring and Display. (My friend's Concours 14 has it.)
3) Keyless ignition. (My friend's Concours 14 has that too.)
4) Faster Computer. The time lag on the gear indicator is way too long.
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Cruiser
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Florida | How about Illuminated Controls for the audio and cruise controls? They are difficult to see at night. The Cruise Control activation is illuminated, but nothing else on these units that are placed below the grips. |
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Stockton, Ca. | All of the Chrome when you buy the Premium not some of the chrome. |
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What Would Your Change About Your Vision?