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Posts: 2300 Georgia, west of Atlanta | Any former Electra Glide or Road Glide owners on site? I'm wondering how much storage capacity the Vision Tour has in comparison to a HD bagger with King Tour pack? I rode my Road Glide to the Victory dealer and I really like the style of the Vision Tour and I think I'll love the OHC 4V engine. The only thing that didn't seem up to standard is the size of the saddlebags and the tour pack. I may be wrong but they looked a little small in comparison to what I'm used to. Any comments or helpful information? Thanks............steve |
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Posts: 1436
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So long and short is the Vision holds as much, it just requires more planning to pack.
My advice is if you buy a Vision, buy the trunk liner and luggage rack as well. The rack gives you a place to pack a little extra if needed.
Hope this answers your question |
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Posts: 2300 Georgia, west of Atlanta | Thanks man, I was hoping I wasn't gonna piss everybody off. That's the answer I wanted to hear, especially from someone who's had both. I have a 2003 RG with a King tour pack and I get what you are saying. I'll probably keep the RG anyway as a second bike. I really like the "Art Deco" look of the vision and the OHC 4V engine seems to be awsome. I will definately get the luggage rack........ |
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Posts: 1436
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Posts: 2300 Georgia, west of Atlanta | Right on man and thank's again..............steve |
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Posts: 92 Eau Claire WIS. 09 vision | its a v-twin with ohv not a v-4 or do you mean 4 valves per cyc. hope that dosent change your mind |
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Posts: 2300 Georgia, west of Atlanta | I know it's a V-Twin, I was describing the cam arrangement. OHC: single overhead cam and 4V: Four valve. Thank you any way. Everybody on site has been very nice......... |
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Posts: 2300 Georgia, west of Atlanta | I was thinking about something I failed to mention earlier. Can you use the space below the trap door panel in the trunk compartment for storage? Is that area water tight? Maybe for soft only items? Looks like it would hold quite a bit.................. |
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Posts: 447 Cleveland, GA | You can use it, but it is NOT watertight (speaking from experience). Its primary purpose is to hold the CB. |
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Posts: 1484 LaPorte,Tx. | I've used it from day one. I put a rain suit in there most of the time. Micro fiber towels, detailer spray, small tool kit, usually stuff that does not have to be accessed often. It is not water proof, but normall stay pretty dry. |
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Posts: 1632 Jasper, MO | Like VisionTex, I've used it from day one too, and I even have the CB/Intercom. There is still space around the CB unit that can be used for small items that don't need to be accessed very often. I have a couple of ziplock plastic bags in there with stuff like a roll of electrical tape, zipties, extra fuses, tire gauge, some tools, etc. I also keep extra cords for my heated riding gear in there, just in case I break or lose one. The space isn't technically waterproof, but it's pretty well protected. The small compartment next to the main one in the saddlebag, that is meant for the factory XM unit, is a dandy and handy place for a small camera.
Ronnie
Edited by rdbudd 2010-01-06 7:22 PM
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Posts: 2300 Georgia, west of Atlanta | Thanks fellas................. |
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Posts: 388 Salisbury, NC | XRsteve, They say a picture is worth a 1000 words. So if you go to the end of the album, I have pictures of what was in my saddlebags and trunk. Keep in mind that the right saddlebag or trunk was not full. I had over half a saddlebag that I could still use along with 1/8 of the trunk left.
http://imageevent.com/etspastimes/visionohoh
The pictures before you get to the luggage is another thread. ET |
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Posts: 447 Northeastern Penna. | Yeah, looks are deceiving. I was told that the Vision side bags hold 7.5 gals. each. The new Cross Country holds 10.5 gals. each. |
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Posts: 2300 Georgia, west of Atlanta | Very interesting: the article on site about "left on the drawing board" the vision was supposed to have more storage capacity than was produced, especially the saddle bags. Could Victory make them better ( bigger ) without spoiling "the look" ??? |
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Posts: 8144 New Bohemia, VA | I think there is a couple things in play as that was a question I believe Jedi Jeff asked Mike Song about. Concepts and production become two different animals. Not being an engineer or playing one on TV or slept in a Holiday Inn Express, I would not want to compromise strength and integrity for capacity or looks.
Having been "pushed" about 3 feet at a stop sign with me and the wife unit on the bike by a stupid cager know the strength and integrity of the Vision's body work. You would be hard press to see where the car made contact with the bike and be even more amazed that it made no more than a scratch on the left bag. Yet, it did push it about 3 feet and I recieved $1,000+ in damages through the insurance adjuster. |
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Central Wisconsin | XRsteve - 2010-02-13 10:39 PM Very interesting: the article on site about "left on the drawing board" the vision was supposed to have more storage capacity than was produced, especially the saddle bags. Could Victory make them better ( bigger ) without spoiling "the look" ??? I realize Victory wanted to manufacturer the Vision at a competitive price. My wife and I both were disappointed when we first opened up the saddlebags I went and took another look/test/drive on Ultra Classic but the Vision won us over in comfort/handling.
The hard bags. In Mike's mind, the bags were a compromise between what he'd envisioned (with more storage) and what was possible to manufacture. In fact Mike laments that manufacturing techniques have improved in the 2 short years since the Vision's debut, hence the Cross bike's cavernous bags. The hardbags Mike had designed looked the same but did not have the small internal opening and none of the cross members that cut up the area into smaller cubbies. "It was a limitation of the manufacturer contracted to make the bags. Also, the hinges don't need to be that big." he said as he fiddled with the metal hinge. I asked if he thought in the future the Vision will adopt similar hardbags as the Cross bikes. He didn't expect a redesign of anything Vision bodywork for the foreseeable future.  |
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Posts: 1632 Jasper, MO | We also discovered that we could pack more in the saddlebags if we did NOT use the liners, and used stuff bags instead. The saddlebags are bigger inside than the opening, so if you pack the liners really full, it is difficult to get them in and out of the saddlebag, plus there is a little wasted space. Using 2 or 3 stuff bags in each side lets us use all the internal space, plus the space in the lids.
We took a 9 day trip to the Smokies last fall using this system, and had room for clothes for two, which included street clothes, rain gear, cold weather gear, an electric tire pump, tire gauge, tool kit, etc. We went with another couple who rode a GL1800, and we packed just as much stuff as they did. We even came home with more stuff than we left with (shirts, caps). Great trip. Vision loves the Smokies and US 129.
Our cold weather gear (Firstgear riding suits) went on the luggage rack when we weren't wearing it. They roll up and bungee down nicely.
Ronnie
Edited by rdbudd 2010-02-14 9:53 PM
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