Will pledge work to get rid of swirl marks?.
kodonnell1
Posted 2009-12-02 3:34 PM (#48954)
Subject: Will pledge work to get rid of swirl marks?.


Tourer

Posts: 460
Hello All
Wanted to know if Pledge furniture polish will do a good job in getting rid of swirl marks?.
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Smitty
Posted 2009-12-02 4:17 PM (#48958 - in reply to #48954)
Subject: RE: Will pledge work to get rid of swirl marks?.


Cruiser

Posts: 273
No, but a hammer will. I'd never use Pledge on anything, including furniture.

Seriously, I'd use a clay bar, followed by a good polish, followed by a great wax. All done by hand/no buffers.

Sounds like a lot of work, but when you see the results....
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RedRider
Posted 2009-12-02 5:09 PM (#48960 - in reply to #48954)
Subject: Re: Will pledge work to get rid of swirl marks?.


Visionary

Posts: 1350
Go to a local parts place that supplies body shops in your area. Mine is Carquest. 3M has some great product for every coating. The person at the counter should be able to help you out because they help the body shops. Worse comes to worse AutoZone sells 2 grades of scratch removing by 3M. Buy the finest grit first. Then do as Smitty stated.
The original Pledge worked great on clean and prepped parts on the bikes. The new stuff has citrus oil and seems to take a lot more work to clean up.

Edited by RedRider 2009-12-02 5:10 PM
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Teach
Posted 2009-12-02 7:04 PM (#48970 - in reply to #48954)
Subject: Re: Will pledge work to get rid of swirl marks?.


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Posts: 1436
Wash your bike so it is real clean and dry it. Go to your nearest Autozone and buy a can of "Liquid Glass." Apply a minimum of 3 coats but let it harden between applications (at least a few hours between each) The more coats you apply the more the bike will shine and the less little paint flaws will show (like swirls). Best of all if your bike gets hit by some flying debris it will nick the LG and not your paint.
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bigwill5150
Posted 2009-12-02 7:09 PM (#48972 - in reply to #48970)
Subject: Re: Will pledge work to get rid of swirl marks?.


Iron Butt

Posts: 725
Reno County, KS
Teach - 2009-12-02 6:04 PM

Wash your bike so it is real clean and dry it. Go to your nearest Autozone and buy a can of "Liquid Glass." Apply a minimum of 3 coats but let it harden between applications (at least a few hours between each) The more coats you apply the more the bike will shine and the less little paint flaws will show (like swirls). Best of all if your bike gets hit by some flying debris it will nick the LG and not your paint.

You all have been talking a lot about this "Liquid Glass". I think I'll get a can. Good topic.
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Mfoster
Posted 2009-12-02 7:49 PM (#48976 - in reply to #48954)
Subject: Re: Will pledge work to get rid of swirl marks?.


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Posts: 205
I assume you have a black bike? Pledge is no good.(at least for me). We had a thread on this before. I highly recimmend Turtle Wax "Ice" it is a clear spray that you will love! CLean the bike and then spray the stuff on a rag and do 1/4 of the bike at a time. Rub on and rub off... very quick and easy. You will love it. Takes out swirls all day long and will leave your black bike looking like it is wet.

I tried a lot of stuff and found this to be the best so far. Not that others wont do the same, but this works great for me. You would think Turtle wax would be too cheesy, but it really does work!!!
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metalguy
Posted 2009-12-02 8:25 PM (#48981 - in reply to #48954)
Subject: Re: Will pledge work to get rid of swirl marks?.


Tourer

Posts: 550
Tacoma, WA
In the past, I have had good luck with lemon Pledge as a spray detailer, but the "new" formulation seems like crap. I use Zymol to rid the paint of swirl marks. Great stuff.-----Metalguy
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varyder
Posted 2009-12-02 9:00 PM (#48984 - in reply to #48954)
Subject: Re: Will pledge work to get rid of swirl marks?.


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
I don't know, but I wouldn't use it. I'd be more inclined to get a good polish...
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Smitty
Posted 2009-12-03 9:16 PM (#49046 - in reply to #48970)
Subject: Teach, very good point on Liquid Glass...but make sure


Cruiser

Posts: 273
you have no tar, no bugs, no nothing on the bike or car before you put it on. 'Cause if you do, the LG will make it much more obvious.

I put three coats on my Vette and love it.
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whinecooler
Posted 2009-12-04 9:44 AM (#49069 - in reply to #48954)
Subject: Re: Will pledge work to get rid of swirl marks?.


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 41
Litchfield Park, AZ
I followed the lead on the "ICE". Very good, not perfect, but the best I've found so far. Just make sure your rag is CLEAN and fresh!
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Plumley
Posted 2009-12-04 10:49 AM (#49075 - in reply to #48954)
Subject: RE: Will pledge work to get rid of swirl marks?.


Cruiser

Posts: 95
Alberta, Canada
I have had excellent results with the Polaris products!!
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Miles
Posted 2009-12-04 11:49 AM (#49077 - in reply to #48954)
Subject: Re: Will pledge work to get rid of swirl marks?.


Tourer

Posts: 548
Mount Vernon, WA United States
Call Larry at http://www.purevictorypolishes.com/ he will tell you how to easily and inexpensively remove them.

I know it sounds like I plug these guys, but at my age there is not much that I get impressed with, especially when it has to do with motorcycles. His techniques, which seem to be based on the premise that if you are working hard enough at cleaning to break a sweat your doing it wrong, and his products, when used correctly, are just amazing.

This summer after 1800 miles to the AVR I had every possible sort of matter on my bike, including scratches, swirls, bugs, a frog, mud, etc.. Larry and Larry Jr. spent several hours cleaning my bike as a demo, but they only cleaned half so I would have before and after pictures which I will post soon (forget about them ) Then I had to clean the other half. Not only was that simple enough, but after adding another 1800 miles of crap on the way home, it took only about 15 minutes to get it back to clean and shiney.

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victoryvisiontour
Posted 2009-12-04 12:36 PM (#49080 - in reply to #48954)
Subject: Re: Will pledge work to get rid of swirl marks?.


Iron Butt

Posts: 763
Anderson, IN (48mi NE of downtown Indianapolis)
Whatever product you use, be careful not to get it on the windshield or plastic air deflectors. The plastic is extremely impact resistant, but the trade-off is chemical resistance (or lack of). Clean the windshield on any motorcycle with water only or a product that was formulated specifically for motorcycle windshields. You can read more about my explanation of the plastic windshield and chemicals in my posting in another thread
http://www.Vision-riders.com/bb/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=3471&pos...
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Miles
Posted 2009-12-04 12:47 PM (#49082 - in reply to #48954)
Subject: Re: Will pledge work to get rid of swirl marks?.


Tourer

Posts: 548
Mount Vernon, WA United States
Just an FYI... from the Pure Victory Polish site.

"If you have a black bike or you have those pesky hair line scratches or swirls in your paint, I would recommend our second style of polish. This is our PURE VICTORY WINDSHIELD PAINT AND CHROME POLISH. We recommend that you use a Pure Victory Microfiber Wax Applicator to apply this product. Shake product then put a quarter size droplet on the wax applicator. (This product is like a three in one step polish; it's a body scrub, a deep luster polish and a sealer). I tell people it is not how much product you put on, but how you put it on. Rub the polish into your paint and chrome, I like to say get intimate with each surface or just rub until the polish goes clear, meaning rub until there is little or nor polish to remove. By doing this deep rub process you will eliminate or diminish your hairline scratches and minor blemishes. If you have Levi buffs on the rear side of your gas tank, be sure to give this area extra rubbing, then use a clean microfiber towel to remove the polish and buff to a glass like old fashion wet looking finish. Use the same process on your on your chrome and windshield. "

The rear of my tank on both sides actually looked like a flat finish due to the Lanonlin in the leather of chaps I used to wear. I tried everything and was told by everyone it would have to go to a detail shop... Took Larry about 5 minutes to bring it back clean and shiney with the product above. I need to go find those pictures...


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donetracey
Posted 2009-12-04 3:12 PM (#49088 - in reply to #48954)
Subject: Re: Will pledge work to get rid of swirl marks?.


Visionary

Posts: 2118
Pitt Meadows, BC Canada
1. If you wear glasses - take them off - the swirl marks will dissappear.

2. If you don't wear glasses, get some 'pledge' and put it on your sunglasses - the swirl marks will dissappear.

3. If your VV isn't Midnight Cherry - get it painted cuz it never has 'swirls'.
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varyder
Posted 2009-12-04 3:18 PM (#49089 - in reply to #48954)
Subject: Re: Will pledge work to get rid of swirl marks?.


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
the dirt covers my swirls....and I have the Black Cherry, or Midnight, or Dark, or whatever it is with a brown hue....
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donetracey
Posted 2009-12-04 3:34 PM (#49090 - in reply to #48954)
Subject: Re: Will pledge work to get rid of swirl marks?.


Visionary

Posts: 2118
Pitt Meadows, BC Canada
vayder: whatever it is with a brown hue....

1. Road Kill Blood
2. Dog/Deer/Raccoon/Possum Poo
3. Flying Squirrel guts

.... those are my guesses. That's a MAN's motorcycle !!!
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varyder
Posted 2009-12-04 4:42 PM (#49092 - in reply to #48954)
Subject: Re: Will pledge work to get rid of swirl marks?.


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
hey now on the Flying Squirrel guts. That's our new AA baseball team. The others, all of the above....

speaking of deer poo, about three nights ago at home I hear this loud "BAM" directly in front of my house. It doesn't sound like two cars crashing, nor does it sound like gun shots since they hunt across the road also. By the time I look out the window I see flashing lights down in front of the next house, so I go and investigate. Come to find out a guy in a pickup hit a dear that was coming out of my driveway, my driveway and killed it right off. It deployed his airbag and he was a little shook up. He'd already called the LEO and a truck, so they came pretty quickly. The thing that got me the most though was, that he said "I looked up, and there she was...."

I doubled checked to make sure there wasn't any "deer prints" on my bike...

I still don't know why it came out of my driveway....

"I looked up...." hmmmm

Edited by varyder 2009-12-04 5:10 PM
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Teach
Posted 2009-12-04 9:13 PM (#49109 - in reply to #48954)
Subject: Re: Will pledge work to get rid of swirl marks?.


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Posts: 1436
I'll not plug the LG except to say the following. When I first came to this site folks were spending money in the hundreds of dollars for plastic stick ons to prevent scratches. A good number are now using the LG.
I had a friend who I ride with once a year that ALWAYS told me how good this stuff was on his bike but I always reserved some doubt. Then I bought a Black HD which showed every little spot, scratch, swirl, etc... Figured I couldn't do any worse with the LG. Applied the recommended 3 coats and wasn't all too impressed. I continued applying it for the summer after each wash per his recommendation. As told to me by the aforementioned friend, with each coat the bike looked better and better. Even fine hairline blems in the paint disappeared after about the 8th coating. I also didn't need to apply more coats as the bike washed up spotless.
So bottom line for me is the stuff works. I'm sure there are other products that work well, maybe some that would work better. I do know I have ONLY 3 coats on my Vision applied the first week I owned it some 23k miles ago. I wash my bike with dishwashing soap once a month or so and dry/wipe it down with a microfiber cloth. No scratches, chips, etc... anywhere on my bike. Thats good enough for me since I'd rather ride than wash and wax any day. Hope you get your swirls out.
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ruttrow
Posted 2009-12-06 7:27 AM (#49197 - in reply to #48954)
Subject: Re: Will pledge work to get rid of swirl marks?.


Cruiser

Posts: 106
Illinois
Teach,
I belong to many detailing sites and can say this, washing your car/bike with dishwashing liquid will strip wax, sealent or whatever else you want to call it. Before I start any of my own cars to polish and wax I wash with Dawn to strip the vehicle clean. As far as Pledge goes, never. If you really want to see what paint looks like hold a 500 watt halogen light to it or 3M Sun gun, suddenly your paint will not look so good.
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