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Puddle Jumper
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Tulsa OK | My Vision has killed 3 iPod nanos (2nd, 4th, and 5th generation). It will be playing, then sudden silence and AUX on the display. Sometimes this happens after a few days; once it happened after 1 minute. The software has been updated and is current. I've used the adapter made by Apple to provide power to the 4th and 5th gen nanos. I've secured the nano so it isn't jigglingin the glove box. Once the nano dies, it is dead. Will not charge, not recognized by computer, no screen information, no sound, no nothing.
iPod compatibility was one of the primary reasons I chose a Vision. My dealer is not interested in finding the problem.
Has anyone else had this experience??? |
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Visionary
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New Bohemia, VA | hopper, go to the iPod website for tech support on how to reset your iPod. I don't if you've tried that or if it will help, but unless you reset it you won't know for sure if it is truly dead. |
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Cruiser
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| Mine does exactly that, and I'm pretty sure it's not the IPod. Once I turn off the audio system, then back on, the IPod plays normally until it craps out again. I tried removing the negative cable to the battery to see if it would reset the system, but no change. Don't have a clue what to do next. |
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Visionary
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New Bohemia, VA | I think it is in the apple cable and it how well it connects, so it seems on mine. When he says his ipod dies, I assume that he cannot use it. I've had that happen a time or two and it wasn't even on the Vision. When it does happen like, totally dies, you have to reset it according to the apple site.
The crapping out on the Vision is different, and again, mine seems related to the cable as it does not connect as secure as it seems to on all other apple cables. |
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Visionary
Posts: 1436
| It is your Radio. Have the dealer contact Victory who will want to credit you a small monetary amount for your ipod and send you a new IPod lead. This WON'T fix your problem and it WILL continue to eat IPods. Soon the radio will begin locking out on startup and then your display will go blank and you'll get what looks like a bar code.
The aforementioned is exactly what happened with mine an they FINALLY replaced the radio a couple days ago. Some other things you shoul check: Poor or no WB reception, poor radio reception. Press the test with your dealer and have them call Victory tech support to get this straightened out. |
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Cruiser
Posts: 85
| I had my iPod die on me while I was riding but that was because the iPod battery went dead. I bought the adapter they recommend to keep it charged up while connected and I haven't had a problem since. This is my second year with it.
I hope your problem is also a simple one and you get back to enjoying your ride. |
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Cruiser
Posts: 64
| One thing to try if your ipod dies while you're riding. Shut the radio off. Leave it off for a while. At least 1/2 while riding. Then try turning it on again and see if the ipod plays. It's worked several times with mine.
It's almost as if the cord doesn't charge the ipod enough, and the battery dies. Riding around with it off allows some recharging time. |
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Iron Butt
Posts: 732
Western WA | My IPod fried - that's fried, not died - because of the connector on the Vic IPod cable
You could see where it arced on both the connector and the IPod.
Supposedly the new cable design - and I'm still waiting - will fix this particular issue. |
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Tourer
Posts: 400
| I have fried two IPods. Somehow, moisture gets on the IPod and cable, generates some flux, and POP! no more IPod. I have no idea how my Ipod can get wet in a closed container(the glove box with the cable attached). I took the first one to the Ipod store and he told me is shorted out. They showed me the green flux on the Ipod. The guy replaced it for free, but said he really shouldn't. I fried the second one at the AVR. It rained harder than I have ever seen on saturday night / sunday morning. I went to start the bike up and Ipod would not play. Open the compartment and looked at the Ipod. It was actually wet and covered in green flux, POP! there went #2. |
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Cruiser
Posts: 102
Madison, AL | I have been using the same Nano for almost two years and it works ok. I have jiggle the cable at times but it works fine. I did velcro the back so I can keep it secure in the left junk box. I suppose I'm lucky. |
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Visionary
Posts: 3006
San Antonio, TX | I guess I am lucky. I am on my original iPod cable on the same Nano 3rd Gen that I have always used. I have had a lockup about three times in 15 months, 13,000 miles and many full on rain storms. Who knows what tomorrow will bring.
Ride Safe |
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Tourer
Posts: 353
| Definitely check the cable, my 1st iPod died so I replaced it with another it went completely dead within 4 weeks, I looked at the connector and it appeared to have burn marks where it shorted out, fortunately for me I got the 2nd iPod at Costco, they gave me a refund and I got another and went to my dealer and got another cable...... so far so good. |
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Iron Butt
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North Orange County CA | I have been to the apple "Genius Bar" a couple of times with my I-phone (if this is what geniuses do with their time these days, then the end is indeed near). The first thing that they check is the port for signs of water damage, lint, dirt build up, excessive wear, arcing, etc..
My Ipod has been docked on the bike since I bought it 14 months ago and has only been removed three times. Once to sync new music, the second time to create playlists based on Radioteacher's great tutorial and the third to attach velcro based on Teach's experience.
I am still using the original Victory I-pod connector cable that I purchased in Sept of 08 with the bike.
My guess is that some of these problems begin to occur when the I-pod is removed from the docking cable regularly because my 3rd Gen Nano is still functioning flawlessly.
We don't often get rain in SOCAL so I cant comment on the glove box's ability to protect the device under those conditions but my guess is that damp/wet would equal very unhappy.
I wonder if condensation builds up inside the box in areas that have humidity? My bike was flat out wet the other evening for the first 2nd time since I have owned it, just from the dew collecting.
Silica Gel packets in the glove box? Miniature electric blanket or Gerbing sleeve for the I-pod? Biscuit fan or dielectric grease? What's the answer Radioguru?
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Iron Butt
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Western WA | david.terry - 2009-10-28 7:59 PM
I have been using the same Nano for almost two years and it works ok. I have jiggle the cable at times but it works fine. I did velcro the back so I can keep it secure in the left junk box. I suppose I'm lucky.
I think the key here is that you secured the IPod with velcro. Immobilize that sucker. That's exactly what I'll do next time. |
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Visionary
Posts: 1484
LaPorte,Tx. | I even taped the cord to the Ipod to make a better connection... |
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Visionary
Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA | Tarpits99 - 2009-10-29 10:53 AM
I have been to the apple "Genius Bar" a couple of times with my I-phone (if this is what geniuses do with their time these days, then the end is indeed near). The first thing that they check is the port for signs of water damage, lint, dirt build up, excessive wear, arcing, etc..
My Ipod has been docked on the bike since I bought it 14 months ago and has only been removed three times. Once to sync new music, the second time to create playlists based on Radioteacher's great tutorial and the third to attach velcro based on Teach's experience.
I am still using the original Victory I-pod connector cable that I purchased in Sept of 08 with the bike.
My guess is that some of these problems begin to occur when the I-pod is removed from the docking cable regularly because my 3rd Gen Nano is still functioning flawlessly.
We don't often get rain in SOCAL so I cant comment on the glove box's ability to protect the device under those conditions but my guess is that damp/wet would equal very unhappy.
I wonder if condensation builds up inside the box in areas that have humidity? My bike was flat out wet the other evening for the first 2nd time since I have owned it, just from the dew collecting.
Silica Gel packets in the glove box? Miniature electric blanket or Gerbing sleeve for the I-pod? Biscuit fan or dielectric grease? What's the answer Radioguru?
Our Pal from SOCAL I think that is the issues I have wit mine. I remove all the time and then sometimes I have to play, iPod, iPod, where's my iPod as it will not read it. And, when it does read it I lose sometimes the right side sound. I have to move the connection around to get a good connect and then it works flawlessly. Oh the pains of life, motorcycles, iPods, weebling and wobbling, but we don't fall down. If we do fall down we got TOP that grinds us to a halt and keeps us from becoming halt.
If it wasn't for life, what would we be doing..... |
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Visionary
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San Antonio, TX | Tarpits99 - 2009-10-29 9:53 AM
I have been to the apple "Genius Bar" a couple of times with my I-phone (if this is what geniuses do with their time these days, then the end is indeed near). The first thing that they check is the port for signs of water damage, lint, dirt build up, excessive wear, arcing, etc..
My Ipod has been docked on the bike since I bought it 14 months ago and has only been removed three times. Once to sync new music, the second time to create playlists based on Radioteacher's great tutorial and the third to attach velcro based on Teach's experience.
I am still using the original Victory I-pod connector cable that I purchased in Sept of 08 with the bike.
My guess is that some of these problems begin to occur when the I-pod is removed from the docking cable regularly because my 3rd Gen Nano is still functioning flawlessly.
We don't often get rain in SOCAL so I cant comment on the glove box's ability to protect the device under those conditions but my guess is that damp/wet would equal very unhappy.
I wonder if condensation builds up inside the box in areas that have humidity? My bike was flat out wet the other evening for the first 2nd time since I have owned it, just from the dew collecting.
Silica Gel packets in the glove box? Miniature electric blanket or Gerbing sleeve for the I-pod? Biscuit fan or dielectric grease? What's the answer Radioguru?
I would keep it dry, velcro it down and if needed (and some here have said it does but I do not use it) use dielectric grease. |
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Visionary
Posts: 3006
San Antonio, TX | Duplicate
Edited by radioteacher 2009-10-30 5:43 PM
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Cruiser
Posts: 64
| I made a small pouch out of bubble wrap for mine. Keeps it padded and dry.
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Visionary
Posts: 1436
| Another option is to cut a piece of foam to fit in the glove box bottom and a slit in the foam to slide the IPod in to secure (rather than velcro). If you have a number of temp variations in your area and/or you ride in rain frequently the dielectric grease would be a good idea. |
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Cruiser
Posts: 127
| david.terry - 2009-10-28 8:59 PM
I have been using the same Nano for almost two years and it works ok. I have jiggle the cable at times but it works fine. I did velcro the back so I can keep it secure in the left junk box. I suppose I'm lucky.
Thanks for the tip- it turns out that the velcro tip worked for me as well. Now if I could just figure out how to run the damned thing... |
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Visionary
Posts: 3006
San Antonio, TX | Dimonback,
When I loaded iTunes back last February on my home computer I tried to document the process.
The result is a 16 page guide on downloading, installing, setting up iTunes, syncing with an iPod nano and other notes I have written or found.
The guide can be used as a framework to setup iTunes for the Victory Vision. Now you can take full advantage of the playlists on the nano from your 1-12 radio buttons.
Click the link below to download the PDF document.
http://hamelmer.com/Docs/VictoryVision_iPodNotes.pdf
Please send me any corrections or parts that need to be added to the document. I will happy to receive feedback to make it a better document.
Please check the Tech Reference section of the forums to find this and other mods members have come up with.
My iPod post link.
http://www.vision-riders.com/bb/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=2726
A link to the Vision Tech Reference forum.
http://www.vision-riders.com/bb/forums/forum-view.asp?fid=42
Ride Safe and Rock On!!!
Edited by radioteacher 2009-11-02 10:29 AM
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Tourer
Posts: 520
Simi Valley, CA | 13000 miles, most while listening to my iPod Nano.... no issues ever.
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New user
Posts: 1
| Silica Gel Packets are really a must for iPods or any piece of technology for where you store it. Hang this stuff can even fix your wet or moist ipods. Just put a packet or two of silica gel around where you charge your ipod, or put the ipod right on the silica gel packet. It will help keep it dry and working!
Here is a site with all types of Silica Gel:
http://www.silicagelpackets.com/ |
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Cruiser
Posts: 204
West Knoxville TN | I have not had any issues with my Nano either. I have however recently noticed that if I have the music playing and I slide something across the top of the console (like the cover) the music will stop and the volume will reset to 13. Weird |
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Puddle Jumper
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Tulsa OK | Thanks for the help. None of these nanos could be reset; I had tried that. I did have the nanos secured with tape so they wouldn't move away from the cable. Unless I'm on a trip (and I did put 19,000 miles on this year), the bike is garaged. I've never seen any moisture problems nor any evidence of arcing. |
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