Need this part to get my Vision fixed
Spock
Posted 2009-10-22 11:44 PM (#46439)
Subject: Need this part to get my Vision fixed


Tourer

Posts: 495
Carrollton, TX

Well my dealer has all the parts in to get my Vision put back together again after my wreck except for the Lower Front Frame piece part number 1016036-067. Victory is out of stock on this part and doesn’t even have it in their production inventory at this time. The part was on back order till 10-9-09 but is now on back order till 11-9-09.

I am ready to ride again but need to find this part. Is there any dealer on this forum that by chance has this part in-stock? Anyone else have any ideas where I can find this part? I have searched for salvage yards that might have this part on a bike where the part is still ok but haven’t found one yet.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.  Here is a picture of the part I need.

Many thanks,




(Frame, Lower Front. 1016036-067.JPG)



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Smitty
Posted 2009-10-23 7:55 AM (#46445 - in reply to #46439)
Subject: Call Monster Motors in Ft. Wayne...


Cruiser

Posts: 273
Also known as Osborns.

They have a wrecked Vision that might have the part you need, though I believe they're going to rebuild it.

I believe a MC Salvage Yard might be your best bet and there are sites that you can list your need on and it will go all over the US of A.
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mkultra
Posted 2009-10-23 9:27 AM (#46451 - in reply to #46439)
Subject: Re: Need this part to get my Vision fixed


Tourer

Posts: 374
Tucson, AZ
You might want to check with Arizona Victory...I know they have some salvaged parts on their website and might have what you need.

mike
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Lotzafun
Posted 2009-10-23 2:48 PM (#46465 - in reply to #46439)
Subject: Re: Need this part to get my Vision fixed


Iron Butt

Posts: 935
Rockford, IL
Other than an idea or two I can't help ya much........

If worse comes to worse and the backorder continues (which I think it will) maybe someone from the frozen north can remove thiers and ship it to you? When I was naked last winter I looked at mine and I remember that its a bolt on part and didn't appear to take much labor to remove. I'd gladly ship you mine in a heartbeat however its probably (hopefully) gonna be mid-december before mine goes into storage.

Personally I highly doubt any dealer is going to have this part in stock, why would they? And also pretty much doubt any salvage yard is going to have one because if bike was damaged enough to be totaled out then this part would more than likely be damaged.

How damaged is the one off your bike? Any chance whatsoever it can be straightened well enough to use as a "get by" part till the new one comes in? Your dealer might be resistant to doing this because of the additional labor of doing it twice but like I said...its pretty easy to replace.

Good luck my friend !!
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Teach
Posted 2009-10-23 3:07 PM (#46466 - in reply to #46439)
Subject: Re: Need this part to get my Vision fixed


Visionary

Posts: 1436
Now if your dealer was real sport you might convince him to pull one off a new vison not assembled yet to get you mobile
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a99miata
Posted 2009-10-23 5:56 PM (#46475 - in reply to #46439)
Subject: Re: Need this part to get my Vision fixed


Tourer

Posts: 423
northwest florida
ride naked....be the first to have a CORE
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bobbyg
Posted 2009-10-23 6:50 PM (#46476 - in reply to #46439)
Subject: Re: Need this part to get my Vision fixed


Check with HOG_2dot0 on the Vog. I think this is the same part he had replaced after going down last month.
http://thevog.net/forums/display_topic/id_2463/
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bigwill5150
Posted 2009-10-23 7:10 PM (#46477 - in reply to #46439)
Subject: Re: Need this part to get my Vision fixed


Iron Butt

Posts: 725
Reno County, KS
Sorry to say but these are a HUGE pain in the ass to get to remove/replace. You have to drop both outter and inner leg fairings, which means the tank cover and upper fairing to boot. Spock, I have one that is slightly tweaked on the right side and could be re-used if necessary. My bike (and I) went down hard on a freeway ramp (someone pulled out in front of me at a shopping mall next to the freeway ramp in the rain) about a week after it got side-swiped on the same side. Anyway, the offers on the table if you want to try. The front lower frame (right side tipover arm) is bent upwards about 1/4 inch. If nothing else, the thing could be used interim until your new one comes in since it might be a little weak from being tweaked and then re-tweaked back into place. There appear to be NO cracks in it. I scrapped the whole thing since I was getting new parts for the entire right side. I wanted everything to go back to brand new, uncluding the frame peice and all painted plastics. PS, the tipovers work real well until you grind a couple inches off them by sliding down the asphalt sideways. LOL After that she starts to lean a little more and finally goes over onto the upper fairing and rear saddlebag (CRUNCH). You'll never forget that sound!!! I have some pics that I was thinking of posting of all the parts that I pulled off the bike and replaced. I did it all myself to save some $ and not deal with the dealership dragging their asses.
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Spock
Posted 2009-10-23 7:47 PM (#46479 - in reply to #46465)
Subject: Re: Need this part to get my Vision fixed


Tourer

Posts: 495
Carrollton, TX

Lotzafun - 2009-10-23 2:48 PM Other than an idea or two I can't help ya much........ If worse comes to worse and the backorder continues (which I think it will) maybe someone from the frozen north can remove thiers and ship it to you? When I was naked last winter I looked at mine and I remember that its a bolt on part and didn't appear to take much labor to remove. I'd gladly ship you mine in a heartbeat however its probably (hopefully) gonna be mid-december before mine goes into storage. Personally I highly doubt any dealer is going to have this part in stock, why would they? And also pretty much doubt any salvage yard is going to have one because if bike was damaged enough to be totaled out then this part would more than likely be damaged. How damaged is the one off your bike? Any chance whatsoever it can be straightened well enough to use as a "get by" part till the new one comes in? Your dealer might be resistant to doing this because of the additional labor of doing it twice but like I said...its pretty easy to replace. Good luck my friend !!

Thanks David for the offer, you exemplify the best of the Vision brotherhood! I don’t want someone to go to all that work. My dealer is great and has been in conversation with Victory and has gotten strong assurance that the part will indeed be available on or very close to the 11-9-09 date. I know several accessory parts have slipped on dates before they say they will have this part as it is needed to do a production run.

I agree it is unlikely a salvage yard would have this part in good shape as it is one of the first parts to get damaged in just about any type of a accident.

The only way a dealer would have it is if they had ordered one for someone else and they didn’t take it or they got double shipped or they were smart enough to realize that this part is one of the first parts to get damaged in most accidents and they would stock it. If there is a dealer that is that smart I will give them some business.

My dealer knows the importance of this part and doesn’t want to use anything that is not new with assured integrity. They don’t want to do the extra labor as well.

The great news is my Vision withdrawal symptoms will be cured to a large extent as good friend is going to let me ride his Vision some.

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Spock
Posted 2009-10-23 7:49 PM (#46480 - in reply to #46466)
Subject: Re: Need this part to get my Vision fixed


Tourer

Posts: 495
Carrollton, TX

Teach - 2009-10-23 3:07 PM Now if your dealer was real sport you might convince him to pull one off a new vison not assembled yet to get you mobile

I agree but they only have one 09 left and have a couple of deals working on it and waiting for the 2010's to show up.

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Spock
Posted 2009-10-23 7:54 PM (#46481 - in reply to #46477)
Subject: Re: Need this part to get my Vision fixed


Tourer

Posts: 495
Carrollton, TX

bigwill5150 - 2009-10-23 7:10 PM Sorry to say but these are a HUGE pain in the ass to get to remove/replace. You have to drop both outter and inner leg fairings, which means the tank cover and upper fairing to boot. Spock, I have one that is slightly tweaked on the right side and could be re-used if necessary. My bike (and I) went down hard on a freeway ramp (someone pulled out in front of me at a shopping mall next to the freeway ramp in the rain) about a week after it got side-swiped on the same side. Anyway, the offers on the table if you want to try. The front lower frame (right side tipover arm) is bent upwards about 1/4 inch. If nothing else, the thing could be used interim until your new one comes in since it might be a little weak from being tweaked and then re-tweaked back into place. There appear to be NO cracks in it. I scrapped the whole thing since I was getting new parts for the entire right side. I wanted everything to go back to brand new, uncluding the frame peice and all painted plastics. PS, the tipovers work real well until you grind a couple inches off them by sliding down the asphalt sideways. LOL After that she starts to lean a little more and finally goes over onto the upper fairing and rear saddlebag (CRUNCH). You'll never forget that sound!!! I have some pics that I was thinking of posting of all the parts that I pulled off the bike and replaced. I did it all myself to save some $ and not deal with the dealership dragging their asses.

Thanks for the offer Eugene but due to the labor involved and the assurance from Victory that I should have the part in a couple of weeks I think I will wait unless I can find a new one.

My front lower frame part is bent a lot on the left side and would be really hard if not impossible to fix with any structural integrity.

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Spock
Posted 2009-10-23 8:08 PM (#46482 - in reply to #46481)
Subject: Re: Need this part to get my Vision fixed


Tourer

Posts: 495
Carrollton, TX

I thought about posting on several sites an offer to pay $500.00 for this part but thought it would only lead a thief to steal one off someone’s Vision when they had it parked somewhere, though it wouldn’t be a quick or easy job.

I knew a guy a few years ago that parked his Honda accord and came back to see the passenger door missing. Someone busted out the window, unlocked the door and removed it. His insurance company said they were seeing a lot of this due to a shortage of new doors from Honda to deal with the number of wrecked Honda doors.

 

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radioteacher
Posted 2009-10-23 11:21 PM (#46493 - in reply to #46439)
Subject: Re: Need this part to get my Vision fixed


Visionary

Posts: 3006
San Antonio, TX
Spock,

I saw one today on the rolling "Frame Mule" that displays the aluminum from of the Vision. It was on display at the demo event today in San Antonio.

I guess I could have just put on a Victory shirt and taken it off with an air of authority. Maybe nobody would ask what I was doing.

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Spock
Posted 2009-10-24 12:10 AM (#46495 - in reply to #46493)
Subject: Re: Need this part to get my Vision fixed


Tourer

Posts: 495
Carrollton, TX

radioteacher - 2009-10-23 11:21 PM Spock, I saw one today on the rolling "Frame Mule" that displays the aluminum from of the Vision. It was on display at the demo event today in San Antonio. I guess I could have just put on a Victory shirt and taken it off with an air of authority. Maybe nobody would ask what I was doing.

I like your style! I bet you could have pulled it off. They don't need that part on that display. I need to get my dealer to tell the factory rep to pull it and give it to them so they can get my bike fixed. This should be a good test for Victory to see how customer driven they are.

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Spock
Posted 2009-10-24 6:01 PM (#46517 - in reply to #46439)
Subject: RE: Need this part to get my Vision fixed


Tourer

Posts: 495
Carrollton, TX
Well my dealer Strokers, in Dallas did their magic in tracking down the right people at Victory and they got the missing lower front frame part in last night. My hat is off and great thanks to both the Stroker's team and Victory for coming through for me. I should have my bike back Wednesday or Thursday of next week. I am totaly stoked!
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bigwill5150
Posted 2009-10-24 8:29 PM (#46521 - in reply to #46481)
Subject: Re: Need this part to get my Vision fixed


Iron Butt

Posts: 725
Reno County, KS
You're welcome. I agree. I know first hand that this will be laborious and not much fun especially if you ended up doing it twice. As much as I hate to see someone else sidelined for months waiting on parts.
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SongFan
Posted 2009-10-24 8:57 PM (#46523 - in reply to #46439)
Subject: RE: Need this part to get my Vision fixed


Visionary

Posts: 3204
Memphis

Spock,

So glad to hear about Strokers and Victory coming through for you.  No doubt in my mind that my guys at FRS Powersports here in Memphis would have pulled off the same thing.  I wish everybody had experiences like this but I'm sure your positive attitude throughout the whole ordeal went a long way to making it happen.

Saddle Up!

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Lotzafun
Posted 2009-10-24 9:39 PM (#46524 - in reply to #46439)
Subject: Re: Need this part to get my Vision fixed


Iron Butt

Posts: 935
Rockford, IL
Spock-

What the status of your shoulder? Healed up well enough to ride?

Bigwill-

True, I think the "proper way" or otherwise known as "by the manual" is to remove the fairings and crap. But I think this piece can possibly/probably be slid out the bottom....maybe? Guess I won't know until I try, which I hope to never actually need to do.
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kevinx
Posted 2009-10-24 10:00 PM (#46526 - in reply to #46524)
Subject: Re: Need this part to get my Vision fixed


Visionary

Posts: 1340
Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators
Lotzafun - 2009-10-24 10:39 PM

Spock-

What the status of your shoulder? Healed up well enough to ride?

Bigwill-

True, I think the "proper way" or otherwise known as "by the manual" is to remove the fairings and crap. But I think this piece can possibly/probably be slid out the bottom....maybe? Guess I won't know until I try, which I hope to never actually need to do.


Ain't gonna happen without major disassembly. That sucker is bolted to EVERYTHING on the front of the bike. From the gas tank, to the battery box, to the tip overs, to the horn, to the motor mount, and on, and on
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Spock
Posted 2009-10-24 10:18 PM (#46527 - in reply to #46524)
Subject: Re: Need this part to get my Vision fixed


Tourer

Posts: 495
Carrollton, TX

Lotzafun - 2009-10-24 9:39 PM Spock- What the status of your shoulder? Healed up well enough to ride? Bigwill- True, I think the "proper way" or otherwise known as "by the manual" is to remove the fairings and crap. But I think this piece can possibly/probably be slid out the bottom....maybe? Guess I won't know until I try, which I hope to never actually need to do.

The shoulder is doing great! It has healed faster than the doctor thought it would. It is still a little sore and stiff in some movements and does not have much strength yet lifting much more than the arm above the head but noticeable improvement each day. I can lift a lot to chest level with it.

Bruce let me ride his Vision a little last weekend and Kevin let me ride his Vision this weekend while he is racing his Viper. It is hard to find better friends than this and all of you on the forum. It is soooo good to ride a Vision again!!!!

I tell people that the worst part of the recovery is not being able to ride the Vision. It is much easier to deal with the healing.

If they get the bike done in time I think I will do a 3 or 4 day weekend trip this coming weekend with Bruce and anyone else that can make it.

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Rebel
Posted 2009-10-25 8:15 AM (#46533 - in reply to #46526)
Subject: Re: Need this part to get my Vision fixed


Iron Butt

Posts: 600
Linwood, MI
kevinx - 2009-10-24 10:00 PM

Ain't gonna happen without major disassembly. That sucker is bolted to EVERYTHING on the front of the bike. From the gas tank, to the battery box, to the tip overs, to the horn, to the motor mount, and on, and on

Kevin is right on the money (of course). I was going to take mine off after I had a little spill and the left side of the lower frame got bent and threw everything out of alignment. The weak spots in the frame piece are at the very bottom where the lower frame connects to the links. My left side crumpled right there and it screwed up everything. After I got the left leg fairing off and got a good look at all the crap that the lower frame connects to, I decided to just heat the bent parts and bend them back into position.

Based on the way that part is constructed I don't really think the engineers had intended the tip-over-protection to be a crash bar system, although they performed admirably for Spock and did the job well for me. The TOP is probably meant to just protect the body work if the bike falls over in a parking lot.
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