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Newnan, GA | Hi,
I'm a Goldwing owner looking for another bike.
Many Wing riders refer to the Vision as the Judge Dredd bike. At first I thought the Vision was butt ugly. But now it s seems to be growing on me. My wife and I are going to test ride a vision this week.
I've had a couple of Kaw V-Twins (800 & 1500), so naturally I tested a new Voyager 1700. Surprisingly, I found the plastic parts to be flimsy, lacking any appearance of quality.
I'm also considering a Harley Ultra classic but the Vision seems to be a growing contender.
The dealer south of Atlanta closed down so now I must ride 1 hour north to the nearest dealer.
Until I ride one, would you please give my you personal opinions regarding quality, reliability and Dealer customer service. Any issues you would like to brink up would be appreciated.
Oh yeah. Can the trunk be removed?
Thanks
Van
Newnan, GA
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seattle, wa | I believe the quality is right up there with the rest of the bikes. Not quite Honda or HD quality, but pretty damn good.
I haven't had any troubles with my bike in the year that I have owned it. Im gonna say reliability is very,very good.
I don't really know much about my dealer cuz I've never had them work on my bike. They were cool when they sold me the bike. hehe
The only issue that comes to mind right away is popping out of the pipes with an aftermarket pipes. I had Kevinx put new intake/cams/fuel controller on mine and I have pretty much been able to tune it so I dont get too many pops.
Keep the bike stock and you dont have any popping issues, it happens with aftermarket mufflers.
And yes, the trunk is removable.
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| Van, I traded in my '03 GL1800 (I go by the handle of G2Rich on the GL1800.com board) for the Vision back in April of '08. I now have just about 20K miles on my Vision and I can tell you that I don't really miss the Goldwing all that much, it's just a little different in the power delivery and to be perfectly honest the Vision is not nearly as "refined" as the Goldwing but then again it is only in the third production year compared to 34 years for the Goldwing. The Vision handles just as good as the Goldwing and even has better ground clearance, the biggest different in performance comes when riding the twisties at speeds from 35 to 50 mph (think Deals Gap), on the Wing you can just leave it in 3rd gear and use the engine for braking and running the revs up for speed, at those same speeds you will find the Vision needs to be shifted from 2nd to 3rd gear to keep the engine in the "sweet spot" for great performance, especially when riding 2-up towing a trailer. The saddlebags on the Vision are smaller than on the GL1800 but if you are like most touring couples you are using a trailer and that won't be too much of a concern, Bushtec has come out with a great looking trailer that compliments the looks of the Vision. Where the Vision has really shined for me is in the comfort level, the ability to move your feet around on the floorboards, perhaps the best stock seat ever put on a motorcycle, the ability to adjust the windshield on the fly with a push of a button, true iPod integration, stock passenger audio controls when you install the optional CB/Intercom (yeah, the intercom is optional which sucks, but get the CB and you'll be happy), all make the difference between the Goldwing and the Vision. Don't pay much attention to those here that complain about things, the VAST MAJORITY of Vision owners are extremely happy with their decision and would do it again I am sure. One other thing, even though Victory has a small yet growing dealer network, don't let that bother you as the core bike is as rock solid and reliable as a Goldwing (check out JD powers).
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New Bohemia, VA | I suggest that you make a list of what YOU expect of a motorcyle then see which one fits the bill. For me, the 26.5" seat height sold it site unseen. After 55,000+ miles Im not looking back except to change lanes. |
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San Antonio, TX | Mongo,
Please let us know what you think of the test ride. It is nice to have some current and former Wing Riders here to help you out. If you have any questions please post them here.
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Pitt Meadows, BC Canada | I wish all you prospects would stop buying Visions. This will make mine worth more money when I quit riding in 25 or 30 years..... |
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| The Vision's looks will get you soon enough.... it grows on you until you realize that it is beautiful, sinister and classy. The best compliment I have had yet was a guy that told me it is "elegant".
At first I felt like you, and had cash in hand for a Harley Ultra. All I can say is that after test riding there was NO WAY I would have bought the Harley. I had a Road King and was looking for a full fairing tourer, and never thought I would buy anything but another Harley. But one test ride and serious look at the Vision and there was no way I could justify the Harley.
You are going to love it! And CycleDragon (sponsor on here) does an after market pipe exchange that sounds great and I have never had ONE POP! And it growls like lion!...nice....
Check out my gallery (mfoster) if you want to see a nice black one with the trunk removed. Good luck! |
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Meadow, Texas | Take the ride on the Vision. This will sell you on the bike. I was thinking of getting the latest Wing or an Ultra, then I rode the Vision and now have one on order. And hopefully I'll be riding it within a couple of weeks. The lower seat height is what really sold me which also made it handle much better than the Wing. But go and ride one and let the bike sell you on it.
Read the forum a nd you'll learn more about the bike than what the dealer can tell you. All the extras that you might need very quickly and those that you don't. Since it is much lower I tested out the manual backing and had zero problems so I didn't order the reverse option, but that was me. I'm 5'8" and wide.
I think you will like the bike.
Ride safe.
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New Brunswick , Canada | Like LarryinMD said ...Take the ride ..the bike will sale itself...I did it 3 weeks ago and put a down payment on a Vision Tour 2010 White Pearl.
And now i have a Goldwing for Sale. ;o) I am 6ft 210 lbs , what got to me was the comfort of the bike , floorboards and the handling....the power is different but i like the feeling very much. The wife like it too. Test drived it with 2 up , carved the curves with it and when we park the bike she said that she felt more confident going into the turns with this bike compared to the Goldwing...which was the same feeling i had...it was rock solide into the curves.
I was looking for something diffrent and i found it..And yes i tried Harley Electra Glide , did not do it for me.....Now i am looking for a trailer and hitch..
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Atlanta Area | Mongo,
I live in Senoia... about 10 minutes from Newnan. You are cordially invited to come over and I will give you the grand tour as well as a thorough test ride. Tomorrow night there will be 3 Visions at my house. I have become a staging area for a ride down to Florida which is happening on Wednesday. Call me: 904-334-3526
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Newnan, GA | rwilly - 2009-10-11 9:27 PM
I believe the quality is right up there with the rest of the bikes. Not quite Honda or HD quality, but pretty damn good.
Does the frame have a history of cracking, transmision failure, over heating and ainti dive valve issuse ? Any recalls? How easy is it to change the air filter?
I like the Wing but....there is somthing about a V-twin that feals like a motorcycle. I like the power of the Wing, I know the 106 will work for me ( I was on a 1500 for many years). The Victory engine is like a work of art too.
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| It's about the worst reception you can have without having none.
The bike is comfortable, the passenger rest is a pillow in need of arm rests but I think someone is making them, maybe Victory.
The power is good, the ride is compliant, and most things work as they should...most of the time. I'd suggest you read the nits in all the posts here, as there are plenty to be heard.
Not all of us have the same issues, but in some cases such as the radio, we all do.
Make sure you get the right dealer. That will, in my opinion, be the deal maker or deal breaker.
And if you crave attention, get ready for a lot of questons. Shortly after I got mine, a car full of what appeared to be Japanese guys in a Toyota pulled up by me on the Interstate and followed drove beside me for about 5 miles looking at the bike and talking.
I stopped at a gas station the other day and a guy on a new Kaw Concours made the statement that it looked like it was going fast sitting still.
Saturday last, I was at my mom's house and a guy pulls up in her driveway on a Kaw cruiser and started walking all around it. Naturally I went outside to "make sure" and he said he just wanted to "see one in person". I let him sit on it and he came away impressed.
Would I buy another one? I honestly don't know, but so far other than a blown rear speaker and oil blowing out of the breather tube onto the engine case....AND that lousy radio....I don't have any complaints.
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Newnan, GA | Travelin' Man - 2009-10-11 10:27 PM
The Vision handles just as good as the Goldwing and even has better ground clearance, the biggest different in performance comes when riding the twisties at speeds from 35 to 50 mph (think Deals Gap),
I was hoping for that
The saddlebags on the Vision are smaller than on the GL1800 but if you are like most touring couples you are using a trailer and that won't be too much of a concern,
Hmm, That's disapointing. Is the trunk as big?
Bushtec has come out with a great looking trailer that compliments the looks of the Vision.
Bushtec is a solid company. I have Bushtec hitch on my bike and wouldn't use any other.
Where the Vision has really shined for me is in the comfort level, the ability to move your feet around on the floorboards, perhaps the best stock seat ever put on a motorcycle, the ability to adjust the windshield on the fly with a push of a button, true iPod integration, stock passenger audio controls when you install the optional CB/Intercom (yeah, the intercom is optional which sucks, but get the CB and you'll be happy), all make the difference between the Goldwing and the Vision.
Comfort and ride quality is what I'm after. How much was the CB/intercom?
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Newnan, GA | 1atom12 - 2009-10-12 8:35 AM
Mongo,
I live in Senoia... about 10 minutes from Newnan. You are cordially invited to come over and I will give you the grand tour as well as a thorough test ride. Tomorrow night there will be 3 Visions at my house. I have become a staging area for a ride down to Florida which is happening on Wednesday. Call me: 904-334-3526
Adam
I work nights.
Did you get your ride at Balck Jacks before it closed down? I'll call later tonight during my lunch break. |
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Newnan, GA | Time will tell as far as the looks go. The ride is another thing.
Mfoster - 2009-10-12 12:14 AM
The Vision's looks will get you soon enough.... it grows on you until you realize that it is beautiful, sinister and classy. The best compliment I have had yet was a guy that told me it is "elegant".
At first I felt like you, and had cash in hand for a Harley Ultra. All I can say is that after test riding there was NO WAY I would have bought the Harley. I had a Road King and was looking for a full fairing tourer, and never thought I would buy anything but another Harley. But one test ride and serious look at the Vision and there was no way I could justify the Harley.
You are going to love it! And CycleDragon (sponsor on here) does an after market pipe exchange that sounds great and I have never had ONE POP! And it growls like lion!...nice....
Check out my gallery (mfoster) if you want to see a nice black one with the trunk removed. Good luck! |
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Newnan, GA | Smitty - 2009-10-12 9:10 AM
It's about the worst reception you can have without having none.
Huh? Is there an issue with the radio? |
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Newnan, GA | Far out!
Yeah the wing is a little tall. My wife did not like the Ultra's seat.
LarryinMD - 2009-10-12 5:28 AM
Take the ride on the Vision. This will sell you on the bike. I was thinking of getting the latest Wing or an Ultra, then I rode the Vision and now have one on order. And hopefully I'll be riding it within a couple of weeks. |
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East TN | Mongo - 2009-10-12 10:14 AM How much was the CB/intercom? The CB/Intercom is $899...Well worth every penny. |
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Newnan, GA | Pretty impressive testimony.
How well does the Vision do at slow speed maneuvers?
Lojak - 2009-10-12 8:26 AM
Like LarryinMD said ...Take the ride ..the bike will sale itself...I did it 3 weeks ago and put a down payment on a Vision Tour 2010 White Pearl.
And now i have a Goldwing for Sale. ;o) I am 6ft 210 lbs , what got to me was the comfort of the bike , floorboards and the handling....the power is different but i like the feeling very much. The wife like it too. Test drived it with 2 up , carved the curves with it and when we park the bike she said that she felt more confident going into the turns with this bike compared to the Goldwing...which was the same feeling i had...it was rock solide into the curves.
I was looking for something diffrent and i found it..And yes i tried Harley Electra Glide , did not do it for me.....Now i am looking for a trailer and hitch..
Give it a try MONGO...
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Newnan, GA | Far out! The CB on the wing is 600 bucks and that doesn't include the antenna!
joe schmoe - 2009-10-12 10:01 AM
Mongo - 2009-10-12 10:14 AM How much was the CB/intercom? The CB/Intercom is $899...Well worth every penny. |
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Atlanta Area | You work nights? Then get your lazy azz over here now. I was about to head out to garage and convert the Vision from a street fighter back into a touring bike by reinstalling the trunk. Don't let a little rain stop ya!
I did not buy at Blackjacks, I bought from the dealer in Birmingham...
Come now, bring beer! 
Mongo - 2009-10-12 9:20 AM
1atom12 - 2009-10-12 8:35 AM
Mongo,
I live in Senoia... about 10 minutes from Newnan. You are cordially invited to come over and I will give you the grand tour as well as a thorough test ride. Tomorrow night there will be 3 Visions at my house. I have become a staging area for a ride down to Florida which is happening on Wednesday. Call me: 904-334-3526
Adam
I work nights.
Did you get your ride at Balck Jacks before it closed down? I'll call later tonight during my lunch break. |
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Baltimore, Md | My last bike before the Vision was a GL1500 and I find the Vision to be superior in low speed handling by a noticeable margin. The Wing has more linear power and is (obviously) smoother due to its flat 6 cyl engine. But the Vision is no slouch and the power is more V-Twin motorcycle style with some soul that I found lacking in the Wing. As for the radio, it's an antenna issue. Victory attached the antenna to the back of the access panel and the reception is very weak in most cases. I use XM so it's not a problem for me, but many complain about it. |
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seattle, wa | Mongo - 2009-10-12 7:02 AM
rwilly - 2009-10-11 9:27 PM
I believe the quality is right up there with the rest of the bikes. Not quite Honda or HD quality, but pretty damn good.
Does the frame have a history of cracking, transmision failure, over heating and ainti dive valve issuse ? Any recalls? How easy is it to change the air filter?
I like the Wing but....there is somthing about a V-twin that feals like a motorcycle. I like the power of the Wing, I know the 106 will work for me ( I was on a 1500 for many years). The Victory engine is like a work of art too.
Van
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Buford, GA United States | I bought my 08 Tour Premium at Victory of Cumming Georgia and I have had no major problems with the bike or the dealer. I now have 21,000 miles on the odometer and my previous ride was a Nomad. Just remember that it takes longer to gas up the Vision because of all the questions you have to answer from the people circling and wanting to know what you are riding... |
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New Brunswick , Canada | The handling at low speed was diffrent then the Goldwing , some of treads here are saying it does not handle better then the Goldwing but for me , it was better handling to the point it surprised me. Do not forget, you are sitting lower on this bike...i think it about 26.5 inches of the ground. One thing for sure , i will not opt. for the reverse on this bike . By sitting lower and the bike is more narrow then the Goldwing , cause of motor...plus a pair of long legs , it is very easy to back up this bike , even on a small uphill parking spot when i took it back to the dealer.
As for the issues..all jap. bike had them too...Even the Goldwings had there share of hairline cracks in there frames (welding) , Overheating at low speed ect..
As for the Radio issue, i think Vic. made a change for the 2010 antenna...but not comfurmed..
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| You will not use the radio if you embrace the ipod feature. Once you have that clarity, control, and lack of commercials, you will never go back. Although, the radio should work well, I find I rarely use it. And a $400 upgrade to off-the-shelf Alpine speakers made a nice difference. |
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Litchfield Park, AZ | I think I can sum up the Vision in just one sentence: If a Yamaha Roadliner and a Honda ST1300 got drunk and had a one-night-stand, their love child would be the Victory Vision......I'm just sayin' |
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West Knoxville TN | As far as dealers go I traveled over 200 miles to buy my vision from Jeff at Victory of Cumming. Well worth the time and drive. They are great people.
Handling is best described as a 900 pound sport bike. The only limitation I have on cornering is the floorboards dragging. And believe me with the ground clearance of the vision you have to be leaning pretty far over. Low speed handling has been described from marginal to ok. I find the bike very easy to manuver at low speeds. I imagine that all the years of sport bike riding have some infulence in my thoughts but having owned sport bikes, cruiser bikes, and a wing I can honestly say it is the best motorcycle I have ever owned.
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Newnan, GA | 1atom12 - 2009-10-12 10:13 AM
Come now, bring beer!
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New Bohemia, VA | phoenix9 - 2009-10-12 3:19 PM
I think I can sum up the Vision in just one sentence: If a Yamaha Roadliner and a Honda ST1300 got drunk and had a one-night-stand, their love child would be the Victory Vision......I'm just sayin'
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LaPorte,Tx. | As if today, there is no other touring motorcycle that will give you more for your money as an all around touring or with the trunk off street motocycle. You will be able to do the twisties as good or better than any touring or cruiser bike. You will be able to do 500 to 1000 mile days back to back, you have 0-60 mph speeds that are equal to a Corvette, 60 mph to 120 mph roll on in 5th gear that are equal to an 1800 Gold Wing and for less than $2000 cams can be installed to make really fast and quick. It is tremendous canvas to do special painting which many have done. Each year more and more aftermarket items are showing up...you just need more $s. There are some people who don't like the Visions they have, that can be expected, all motorcycles have people that end up not liking what they have. JD Powers has the Victory motorcycles rated very high, and I know alot of people go by that information, I myself have to prove it to myself. The Vision has proven itself to me and Victory is a good company. I've been to the factory and met folks on the line putting them together, I was impressed with their work and attitude to the product. I've met in focus groups where the company was asking US what we thought. I've met Blackwell and several of the top folks...they are very driven in making their company successful. They are a very creative group of people and I believe the future of the company is very bright. As far as Polaris, you can read about these guys from any stock report and you will see it is a very strong company and is rated very high as an investment.
Now what's wrong with the Vision, well as stated by several other posts here you have gotten the full report and by all means the list is small. And do I have some of these issues with my bike, yes I do, and have most been resolved, yes, and are we working on the others, yes. It is kinda like marrage, you really love her except for... I hope you get a Vision and continue to ride. |
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Linwood, MI | Candyman - 2009-10-12 2:25 PM
Low speed handling has been described from marginal to ok. I find the bike very easy to manuver at low speeds.
Y'know, I've seen this before in magizine reviews and I've never understood it. I, too, find the Vision to be extremely nimble and easy to handle at very slow speeds, especially considering the size and weight of the bike. I took the Experienced Rider Course from the MSF back in June and of all the big tour bikes my Vision handled all the maneuvering the best and I was even out-doing a couple of the little Shadow 600s. My Vision was the only tour bike that could do the figure-8 box without using the bonus extensions intended for tour bikes. |
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San Antonio, TX | Mongo,
How does it handle at slow speeds?
Here is a video of my Vision on the 24ft wide 60ft long MSF box. I can do the 20 by 60 box as well but I do not have video of it....yet.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-HJCNyGois
Ride Safe and practice.
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Newnan, GA | Yep, doing that now on the wing. Still the radio comes in handy some times.
Mfoster - 2009-10-12 11:24 AM
You will not use the radio if you embrace the ipod feature. Once you have that clarity, control, and lack of commercials, you will never go back. Although, the radio should work well, I find I rarely use it. And a $400 upgrade to off-the-shelf Alpine speakers made a nice difference. |
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| Mongo, seems to me you have already made up your mind.... If you are looking for fit and finish the Vision ain't your bike. Motor wise it is very reliable and pretty quick, it will hang with a wing from 55mph up. Comfort is WAY better than your wing. The bike has KNOWN headlite issues unresolved to date and the manufacture is now on the 3rd radio. If you use "weatherband" you'll be out of luck with the Vision. The saddlebags and trunk will hold as much as a Harley bagger so they are in fact BIGGER than the wings, just harder to stuff. Handling is pretty close but you'll shift more on the Vic.
For the most part it is a good bike, but the nit-noy crap will wear you out if you get a bad one. So do or don't but go in with eyes open.
Oh and one last thing; there isn't a damn thing made for the Vision that doesn't cost $300+++++ Not a big deal but again eyes wide open. |
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Pitt Meadows, BC Canada | Mongo, If you are looking for fit and finish, the Vision is your bike. Mine has been perfect from day one - and so is every other VV I have seen in 1 1/2 years. And only one small problem easily fixed with the radio. Go for it.... |
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Woodland Hills, CA | Mongo - 2009-10-11 5:29 PM
Hi,
I'm a Goldwing owner looking for another bike.
Many Wing riders refer to the Vision as the Judge Dredd bike. At first I thought the Vision was butt ugly. But now it s seems to be growing on me. My wife and I are going to test ride a vision this week.
I've had a couple of Kaw V-Twins (800 & 1500), so naturally I tested a new Voyager 1700. Surprisingly, I found the plastic parts to be flimsy, lacking any appearance of quality.
I'm also considering a Harley Ultra classic but the Vision seems to be a growing contender.
The dealer south of Atlanta closed down so now I must ride 1 hour north to the nearest dealer.
Until I ride one, would you please give my you personal opinions regarding quality, reliability and Dealer customer service. Any issues you would like to brink up would be appreciated.
Oh yeah. Can the trunk be removed?
Thanks
Van
Newnan, GA
Van,
Ride the Ultra, then ride the Vision. The decision will be easy! Both bikes have their issues, but as a 20 year Harley rider (and still owner), there is no comparison....the Vision is a much superior bike with the possible exception of very slow speed handling, but that does not take much to get used to.
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Newnan, GA | Oil issuses?
Smitty - 2009-10-12 9:10 AM
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Newnan, GA | Teach - 2009-10-12 6:16 PM
Mongo, seems to me you have already made up your mind.... If you are looking for fit and finish the Vision ain't your bike. .
OK I would like you to explain that statement. What do I need to look out for?
Motor wise it is very reliable and pretty quick, it will hang with a wing from 55mph up. Comfort is WAY better than your wing. The bike has KNOWN headlite issues unresolved to date and the manufacture is now on the 3rd radio. If you use "weatherband" you'll be out of luck with the Vision. .
The lightgs are unknown to me. So, what's up wth the lights.
WX band is not there or it doesn't work.
The saddlebags and trunk will hold as much as a Harley bagger so they are in fact BIGGER than the wings, just harder to stuff. Handling is pretty close but you'll shift more on the Vic. For the most part it is a good bike, but the nit-noy crap will wear you out if you get a bad one. So do or don't but go in with eyes open. Oh and one last thing; there isn't a damn thing made for the Vision that doesn't cost $300+++++ Not a big deal but again eyes wide open.
OK, Thanks
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Newnan, GA | OK, Shoot me an e-mail with your address. mongo1958@yahoo.com
1atom12 - 2009-10-12 10:13 AM
You work nights? Then get your lazy azz over here now. I was about to head out to garage and convert the Vision from a street fighter back into a touring bike by reinstalling the trunk. Don't let a little rain stop ya!
I did not buy at Blackjacks, I bought from the dealer in Birmingham...
Come now, bring beer!
Mongo - 2009-10-12 9:20 AM
1atom12 - 2009-10-12 8:35 AM
Mongo,
I live in Senoia... about 10 minutes from Newnan. You are cordially invited to come over and I will give you the grand tour as well as a thorough test ride. Tomorrow night there will be 3 Visions at my house. I have become a staging area for a ride down to Florida which is happening on Wednesday. Call me: 904-334-3526
Adam
I work nights.
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High Ridge, Mo. | Get the reverse. You won't reget it. I'm 5-10 and have no problems backing up (one up) on level ground, but if you need to go uphill slightly....
I doubt if there is a more comfortable bike out there. Does anyone really sell aftermarket seats?
Buy the extended warranty, just in case. I have a free 5 year with my 09, but then I couldn't get ABS. That's on the 2010's.
Look how far Victory has come in only 10 years, and the vision in only 3. Besides, the Vision is the most original looking motorcycle to come along in years |
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Atlanta Area | Email sent... Weather is going to be good to us today... Perfect day for a test ride!
Adam
Mongo - 2009-10-12 10:01 PM
OK, Shoot me an e-mail with your address. mongo1958@yahoo.com
1atom12 - 2009-10-12 10:13 AM
You work nights? Then get your lazy azz over here now. I was about to head out to garage and convert the Vision from a street fighter back into a touring bike by reinstalling the trunk. Don't let a little rain stop ya!
I did not buy at Blackjacks, I bought from the dealer in Birmingham...
Come now, bring beer!
Mongo - 2009-10-12 9:20 AM
1atom12 - 2009-10-12 8:35 AM
Mongo,
I live in Senoia... about 10 minutes from Newnan. You are cordially invited to come over and I will give you the grand tour as well as a thorough test ride. Tomorrow night there will be 3 Visions at my house. I have become a staging area for a ride down to Florida which is happening on Wednesday. Call me: 904-334-3526
Adam
I work nights.
Did you get your ride at Balck Jacks before it closed down? I'll call later tonight during my lunch break. |
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| I just have to say that you guys are too cool. This is really a helpful site for people interested in the bike, with honest and experienced riders, and novice people like me. It makes for a good package of information. And 1atom12-- you are too funny, and generous. Offering to let someone come over and ride your bike and talk shop prior to buying one... that is really cool.... and the "bring beer" is hilarious.
Hope everyone has a nice day. Today out here in Long Beach, CA there is something really odd happening. Little tiny pieces of water are falling from the sky? I don't recall seeing this for a long time. I probably won't ride today... I am not sure what to make of this phenomena. Maybe I'll post a picture of it so you guys can help me figure out what it is.
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Atlanta Area | Two Visions in the garage now! In another 4 hours there will be three!
No pressure on the beverages, I bought beer! |
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Centennial, CO | Mongo,
I have read each post and I can say that each has merit!
I want to be sure to iterate that each person has had nearly the same experience. We all LOVE the Vision and most of us would never look at another bike again. Of course, there are those that have had enough issues with their bike to warrant a package shipment back to Victory. However, this is the exception and not the rule. By far, the Vision in only three years has made strides large enough to make most other bike manufacturers wonder what they are doing and how they will compete in the near future let alone the long term.
I have had my bike for just over a year now and I put over 13k on it in that time. Keep in mind that I live in Colorado and the weather for the last year has been less than desirable most of the time. Its unusual for our climate to be so rainy and/or cold during the spring, summer and fall. But none the less, we had a dusting of snow just last weekend (a bit early by two weeks). But this didn't stop me from riding as much as I could. On ANY of my previous bikes, I would stop riding if it hit 50 degrees. Now, I am ok if it gets below 40. Its cold...but not unbearable as in the past.
I don't want you to be discouraged by some of the things that are said here. As mentioned by a couple, the honesty on this site is amazing. You will get all kinds of information, good and bad.
Many people have had severe issues with things like the headlight, CB (me for one here), stereo and the like. But the fact remains, each bike like a soul has its fair share of good and bad. My issues pale in comparison to others while others pale compared to mine. I truly liken this to a car. The same car off of a line will have different issues. But the overall affect is that the car in general is great and so many are sold that it must not be that bad.
The fact is, if nothing worked on the bike except the transportation portion of the bike, I would be extremely happy. It rides like no other big bike I have ever owned or ridden. Some will say it doesn't handle well as slow speeds while others love it both slow and fast. Me, I love it both slow and fast. It took a bit of practice to learn to lock the bars in a 180 turn but I got there. Turns out I was afraid since it was so big. But I, within a week was able to roll into a driveway and make MANY of the bikers in the lot ask how I was able to get the bike to turn so sharply as they would not have even attempted it on their HD or other big bikes.
As mentioned by so many others. You MUST ride this to believe it. It truly is a one of a kind bike. I tell people all the time..."do not ride one unless your ready for your wallet to come out and write a check". One guy didn't believe me and less than a month later he took a spin and wrote a check that day.
As for fit and finish. I am not sure why some say its horrible while others say its awesome. Its a bike and the fit and finish is just that. Its the fit and finish of a bike! There are issues with it just as with a GW or other Honda as the same with my old Kawasaki Vulcan and etc. The fact for me here is that I bought this bike knowing I only had a FEW upgrades to go and have the bike finished the way I wanted it to be. ALL of my other bikes I worked on constantly to get that little extra. This bike...I could have lived with it the way I bought it. It was great then and even better now with just a few mods.
I will recommend that on my '08, I did purchase the cams and cannot tell you how much of a difference those made. It was worth every penny I paid and as I said to the wrench (KevinX), it was a deal at twice the price.
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| mongo, if you look at saddlebag alignment, alignment of seat to saddlebag doors, aluminum cowls under seat to panels, aluminum cowls on front to bodywork, none fit or align properly. You can play around some and get them closer, but fit and finish is off (poor QC).
The headlites come with small cracks in the clear lense and then the top edge separates making it look smoked. Shortly after the smoke look appears rain water will begin getting into the headlite. This defect is present on ALL Visions.
The radio has a weatherband selection, just don't expect to receive a signal and broadcast. Ride behind a tree and radio reception is gone.
As I said it is a great handling, very comfy bike, but it has issues that you would be best knowing going in. You might not have issues with these quirks/defects as many don't. I however do have an issue with a manufacturer who doesn't fix crap that ain't right. There are always the "cheerleaders" and the "don't buy" it folks. Thats fine so long as you get the WHOLE story. Good luck with your decision. |
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Newnan, GA | 1atom12 - 2009-10-13 1:18 PM
Two Visions in the garage now! In another 4 hours there will be three!
No pressure on the beverages, I bought beer!
I got home about an hour ago. Work sucked. I'm pooped.
Have fun.
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Newnan, GA | Teach - 2009-10-13 6:42 PM
mongo, if you look at saddlebag alignment, alignment of seat to saddlebag doors, aluminum cowls under seat to panels, aluminum cowls on front to bodywork, none fit or align properly. You can play around some and get them closer, but fit and finish is off (poor QC).
The headlites come with small cracks in the clear lense and then the top edge separates making it look smoked. Shortly after the smoke look appears rain water will begin getting into the headlite. This defect is present on ALL Visions.
The radio has a weatherband selection, just don't expect to receive a signal and broadcast. Ride behind a tree and radio reception is gone.
As I said it is a great handling, very comfy bike, but it has issues that you would be best knowing going in. You might not have issues with these quirks/defects as many don't. I however do have an issue with a manufacturer who doesn't fix crap that ain't right. There are always the "cheerleaders" and the "don't buy" it folks. Thats fine so long as you get the WHOLE story. Good luck with your decision.
Thanks, I'll be looking for those isssue and asking the hard questions if and when it comes down to it.
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Chesapeake, VA | Teach - 2009-10-13 6:42 PM
The radio has a weatherband selection, just don't expect to receive a signal and broadcast. Ride behind a tree and radio reception is gone.
I have only owned my bike a couple of months, but I have not had an issue with the Radio reception or the WB. Both work very well for me, and on our trip out to Natural Bridge recently I had no issues picking up local stations or the weather band in the areas we traveled through. Now that's not to say the reception was 100% clear the whole time, but it was no different than traveling in my truck, as you reach the end of the broadcast area, you start to get some "distortion" so we would change the channel.
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Goldsboro, NC | phoenix9 - 2009-10-12 3:19 PM
I think I can sum up the Vision in just one sentence: If a Yamaha Roadliner and a Honda ST1300 got drunk and had a one-night-stand, their love child would be the Victory Vision......I'm just sayin'
A Victory being the bastard son of two japcycles? I think perhaps you should reacquaint yourself with Gregor Mendel. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregor_Mendel
Joking aside, I've entertained myself for hours dreaming up various unholy unions that would produce the Vision, so your point is well taken. |
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Des Moines | Roadliner and ST1300, huh? My first thought was Goldwing and a crotch rocket of some sort. |
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Newnan, GA | Adam,
Thanks for letting me check out your ride.
Very nice looking Vision you have.
Van
1atom12 - 2009-10-12 10:13 AM
You work nights? Then get your lazy azz over here now. I was about to head out to garage and convert the Vision from a street fighter back into a touring bike by reinstalling the trunk. Don't let a little rain stop ya!
I did not buy at Blackjacks, I bought from the dealer in Birmingham...
Come now, bring beer!
Mongo - 2009-10-12 9:20 AM
1atom12 - 2009-10-12 8:35 AM
Mongo,
I live in Senoia... about 10 minutes from Newnan. You are cordially invited to come over and I will give you the grand tour as well as a thorough test ride. Tomorrow night there will be 3 Visions at my house. I have become a staging area for a ride down to Florida which is happening on Wednesday. Call me: 904-334-3526
Adam
I work nights.
Did you get your ride at Balck Jacks before it closed down? I'll call later tonight during my lunch break. |
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Fountain Inn, SC United States | I was told by the regional sales rep that their is a better radio coming for the 2010 Visions & Cross Country. |
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Atlanta Area | Van,
No problemo, but you really need to ride it to fully understand...
Jeff, the new radio has an improved (higher resolution) display... |
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| NO NEED TO THINK ABOUT IT , DO WHAT I DID , SOLD MY boring GL1800 AND GO WITH THE VISION , My Vision just keeps getting better and better , I LOVE my Vision , Cheers MartyQ . Trust me you will understand . PS From what I hear , all the Goldwings from now on are going to be Japanese built .But Is Japanese IS GOOD . I also own a 1973 Z2 Kawasaki 750/4 , 1974 Honda CB750/4 , 1975 Kawasaki 900 Z1B , 1976 Kawasaki Z900 A4 ,1976 Honda CB750P Police bike , 1978 Kawasaki Z1000 Police bike . No such thing as just old Jappas here , They are all Legendary bikes .There was a time when Japanese bikes ruled the World and buried so many other bike brands , maybe they still do ?? .. |
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seattle, wa | Marty, we need pix!
That's a nice collection of bikes. |
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Newnan, GA | martyq - 2009-10-27 8:07 PM
NO NEED TO THINK ABOUT IT , DO WHAT I DID , SOLD MY boring GL1800 AND GO WITH THE VISION , My Vision just keeps getting better and better , I LOVE my Vision , Cheers MartyQ . Trust me you will understand . PS From what I hear , all the Goldwings from now on are going to be Japanese built .But Is Japanese IS GOOD . I also own a 1973 Z2 Kawasaki 750/4 , 1974 Honda CB750/4 , 1975 Kawasaki 900 Z1B , 1976 Kawasaki Z900 A4 ,1976 Honda CB750P Police bike , 1978 Kawasaki Z1000 Police bike . No such thing as just old Jappas here , They are all Legendary bikes .There was a time when Japanese bikes ruled the World and buried so many other bike brands , maybe they still do ?? ..
Do you own a museum? All those carburetors must keep you busy.
BTW, My Goldwing is anything but boring.
Can your vision do this? See the link.
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoI...
Yeah, I found out last year about the plant in Ohio being shut down.
I'm afraid that the Asian built Wing is going to be expensive price the Wing up and beyond the cost of a Harley Ultra.
After seeing Adams bike, I would like to test ride the bike.
I've also written Polaris asking some questions. nothing but an auto matted reply. |
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New Bohemia, VA | Actually Mongo, I've not seen it personally or any video for that matter, but I know I've popped my front wheel off the ground by perhaps a mere inch at least twice, and I've heard tales of others doing the same. There's even one that has said they have even rode a wheelie as well.
None the less, any bike bike such as the Wing, Vision or other like bike pulling the front wheel off the ground and riding for any lenght is a great feat. |
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Newnan, GA | 1atom12 - 2009-10-27 6:54 PM
Van,
No problemo, but you really need to ride it to fully understand...
Jeff, the new radio has an improved (higher resolution) display...
I will. My mornings will be full the rest of the Week. I'm also taking the Wing to have some sevice done tomorrow.
Van
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Newnan, GA | varyder - 2009-10-28 9:22 AM
Actually Mongo, I've not seen it personally or any video for that matter, but I know I've popped my front wheel off the ground by perhaps a mere inch at least twice, and I've heard tales of others doing the same. There's even one that has said they have even rode a wheelie as well.
None the less, any bike bike such as the Wing, Vision or other like bike pulling the front wheel off the ground and riding for any lenght is a great feat.
I about pooped when I saw that a few years ago. |
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New Bohemia, VA | you mean that ain't you!  |
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Newnan, GA | Heh heh! No! |
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| Something funny, I work for a Japanese company but ride a Victory and drive a Dodge. This is in reference to the Wing going back overseas. |
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| FYI, I'd strongly suggest seeing and having your bike serviced with the guys at Polaris of Cumming.....Freedom Powersports North of Marietta is a waste of space |
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Newnan, GA | jeffmack - 2009-10-29 7:24 AM
FYI, I'd strongly suggest seeing and having your bike serviced with the guys at Polaris of Cumming.....Freedom Powersports North of Marietta is a waste of space
What ever I get, I'll do most of my own maint.
BTW Freedom was recently sold.
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| Jeff and 1atom, I just had the newest radio installed in my 08. The display is different, saying "VICTORY" in big block letters when off. When turned on it displays the station frequency central, to the left is the channel name and/or song playing. When you hit the volume control a bar appears on the lower display which fills as the level increases. A completely different look from the radio.
The Weatherband seems to have much better reception, but anything would have been an improvement over my stock radio, but I haven't hooked up the Ipod yet to know if there is any difference.
All I can say with certainty is this is the first time since I purchased my Vision that I actually have the functionlity and reception it should have had from the start. I've been without WX and radio reception was piss poor on the old radio, not to mention lock ups, frozen display, fried Ipods, etc.... Hopefully no more radio issues for me. By the way the NEW radio just shipped to Victory on 10/16. |
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Atlanta Area | Teach - 2009-10-29 2:03 PM Jeff and 1atom, I just had the newest radio installed in my 08. The display is different, saying "VICTORY" in big block letters when off. When turned on it displays the station frequency central, to the left is the channel name and/or song playing. When you hit the volume control a bar appears on the lower display which fills as the level increases. A completely different look from the radio. The Weatherband seems to have much better reception, but anything would have been an improvement over my stock radio, but I haven't hooked up the Ipod yet to know if there is any difference. All I can say with certainty is this is the first time since I purchased my Vision that I actually have the functionlity and reception it should have had from the start. I've been without WX and radio reception was piss poor on the old radio, not to mention lock ups, frozen display, fried Ipods, etc.... Hopefully no more radio issues for me. By the way the NEW radio just shipped to Victory on 10/16. Teach, post some pictures of the new radio display when you get a chance. I would like to see the various screens. Startup, FM, iPOD, etc.... Sounds pretty cool...
Thanks! Adam
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