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Cruiser
Posts: 255
New Brunswick , Canada | Thinking of installing this on my new Vision Tour 2010 , to use the trunk lights for braking and turn signal...for added safety.
This module makes the single filament or single circuit turn signals on the rear of your bike function as running lights, turn signals, & brake lights.
Has anybody tried this model....is it any good..
Any issues with the wiring of a trailer!!! Any input would be great.. ;o) |
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Cruiser
Posts: 68
Cabot Arkansas | just installed this on my 2008 works great, there is a install pdf on this site that is real good. you have to take your trunk apart to ad some wiring because the trunk lights are in series. other than that it is simple. |
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Cruiser
Posts: 255
New Brunswick , Canada | Thanks Stumpy...How long ago did you installed them...no problem with burning out the bulbs!!
Found the PDF file.....good info thanks again ;o) |
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Cruiser
Posts: 68
Cabot Arkansas | installed about 3 weeks ago did around 1500 miles and no issues so far |
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Cruiser
Posts: 51
| Installed mine in May and all is working fine, just follow the instructions on this site and you should have no trouble at all |
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Tourer
Posts: 412
Fargo, ND |
Likewise...I did mine this spring before snow melt and it has worked like a champ all summer!
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Cruiser
Posts: 255
New Brunswick , Canada | So far . So good.... Thanks guys |
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Cruiser
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| What exactly does it do? |
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Cruiser
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Billings, MT | I got it on 08. Works great! Worth the price and time! |
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Cruiser
Posts: 255
New Brunswick , Canada | Mfoster - 2009-10-08 8:15 PM
What exactly does it do?
The two trunk light of a vision tour are a single filement light..They do not blink when you do a right or left turn with your turn signal switch and they do not lightup brither when you apply your brakes nor do they blink when using emergency light.
This module will get the trunk lights do all of this...even they will make your truck lights blink 3 times before coming on solid when braking...
Since these light are sitting higher in the back of the bike, it could save you from getting into an accident..
Just do a search on (Kuryakin 4710 Run-Brake-Turn Controller)...
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Iron Butt
Posts: 849
, FL United States | HAd mine installed in '08 and no problems. Works as advertized. |
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Cruiser
Posts: 81
Lynnwood, WA | Put it on my 09. It seems to work great! Did it on a rainy afternoon. My riding buddies say it makes a big difference. Only took a couple of hours, but that included numerous breaks for beer...
TW |
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Cruiser
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New Brunswick , Canada | I like the way you think...TERRYW527.... (Break for Beer...HHmmm!!) |
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Cruiser
Posts: 81
Lynnwood, WA | It's a necessity, while working in the garage, isn't it....? |
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Iron Butt
Posts: 725
Reno County, KS | I installed one similar on my V-star and it worked very well. It was generic interface one so I had to pin everything out but after that it was smooth sailing. I've been very please with Kuryakyn in general. |
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Iron Butt
Posts: 732
Western WA | I've had mine installed for a year now. Absolutely no problem with burning out the bulbs. Really makes the back of the bike more visible, especially in heavy traffic. |
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Cruiser
Posts: 255
New Brunswick , Canada | OK Guys i am SOLDED...On order...THANK YOU VERY MUCH for all the feedback ;o) |
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Tourer
Posts: 446
East TN | For those who haven't done this mod it is WELL WORTH the 3 hours to do....However, a NOTE for '09 bikes: While doing the mod based on Firehawks GREAT pdf file. I found one hiccup (I guess only for the '09 models) when splicing the green/pink wire UNDER the seat DO NOT CUT THE WIRE use a tap splice and just use it to feed power to the 4710 module. Then trace the wire bundle up to an area right before it goes up into the tour pack and find the green/pink wire, here is where you CUT IT and place a scotch lock (spade connector) on the wire going UP TO THE TOUR PACK and tape the wire going back towards the main wire harness so it won't short to anything. Other than that this is a GREAT mod and should make the rear of the motorcycle seen more readily when braking, turning or using the hazard lights. |
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Tourer
Posts: 576
, IA | yes but he also asked if it worked with a trailer without any problems has anyone added this that pulls a trailer |
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Puddle Jumper
Posts: 42
TUCSON, AZ | Back to the 4710 brake controller. I want to install the controller on my 08 Vision then I called Kuryakin tech support (8:40 am 10-31-09 Tucson time) They said" don't even try it"
So here's my confusion. Several of you have installed them and they work fine. But the manufacturer says NO. What's up? |
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Cruiser
Posts: 255
New Brunswick , Canada | TAG47 - 2009-10-30 10:52 AM
Back to the 4710 brake controller. I want to install the controller on my 08 Vision then I called Kuryakin tech support (8:40 am 10-31-09 Tucson time) They said" don't even try it"
So here's my confusion. Several of you have installed them and they work fine. But the manufacturer says NO. What's up?
Hey TAG47
Did you ask them WHY!...Is it a warranty issue  |
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Puddle Jumper
Posts: 42
TUCSON, AZ | The why question was asked. Not a warrenty issue. They told me it was because the light are controlled by varing the voltage to the light. This creats a problem. I don't understand it. |
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Iron Butt
Posts: 669
Peachtree City, GA | Trying not to be a smart ar$... varing the voltage???
As in OFF and ON ?
Like a brake light.
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Puddle Jumper
Posts: 42
TUCSON, AZ | If I understand "varing the voltage" means to change from a lower voltage to a higher voltage (3 volt to 12 volts or so) On off would be
0 voltage to say 12 volts. Again there must be something in the controller that's not compatable with Victory's system according to Kuryakin. They didn't explain beyond what I've said here. Courious? |
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Cruiser
Posts: 255
New Brunswick , Canada | TAG47 - 2009-10-30 11:24 AM
The why question was asked. Not a warrenty issue. They told me it was because the light are controlled by varing the voltage to the light. This creats a problem. I don't understand it.
I do not get it too.!!
To me the 12V is supply to the Kuryakin control box, That control box will control the voltage to the single filement lights..Wish i could take a look at the schematics and wiring plan..
Anybody got them!!
I was hoping to install this on my new vision , now i am not sure..  |
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Cruiser
Posts: 255
New Brunswick , Canada | Webhair - 2009-10-30 12:27 PM
Trying not to be a smart ar$... varing the voltage???
As in OFF and ON ?
Like a brake light.
Varying the voltage on a single filement light is the only way to make it appeared its blinking..
Do not forget your trunk lights are already on (running lights), but probably not at 12V, it could be at 10V , 8 V or even 6V. But when you come on to the brakes it would push the 12V or maybe a little bit more,so the light would appear brigther..
Usually this is being done with a 2 filement bulb,,,1 filement stay on all the time , wild the other filement will be going on and off..Blinking....
The trunk of a vision tour is wired for a single filement bulb and the Kuryakin 4710 was a fast and quick way to do this....It would of been so easy to wired the trunk with dual filement bulbs and had them working as turrn signal and brake lights , they could of done this at the assembly plant.
It would of been an added safety feature,,trunk lights are more at eye level of the driver in the fallowing car..
Edited by Lojak 2009-10-31 12:31 AM
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Cruiser
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West Knoxville TN | So this may appear as a stupid question but are the lights 12V? If they are then there should be no harm done by upping the voltage from say 8-10V. |
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Iron Butt
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Peachtree City, GA | I have no idea. I do have the controller but have not installed it yet - was planning on waiting until mid-winter...
I guess I will need to check the voltage draw before doing anything... |
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Tourer
Posts: 446
East TN | I installed mine a couple of weeks ago and have had NO ILL EFFECTS at all...A GREAT MOD for the bike!!! |
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Tourer
Posts: 537
, FL United States | Mine has been done for almost 8 months or so. They are still working. |
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Tourer
Posts: 576
, IA | but again i need to ask yes but he also asked if it worked with a trailer without any problems has anyone added this that pulls a trailer |
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Cruiser
Posts: 146
| I called Kuryakyn when I first heard of this mod too. I wanted to make sure that it would cause no problems for the Vision. They said that it would work great on the Vision so I installed it back in February on my '08 Vision. Been working like a charm since... |
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Puddle Jumper
Posts: 12
Duvall, WA | Hey All, I had my Victory dealer install this same Kuryakyn set up and it doesn't work as advertised. The trunk lights do blink when I apply the brakes, but they don't blink with the turn signals. Worst part is that the Cruise Control now does not work. Victory dealer says the Kuryakyn is causing voltage problems for the Cruise so it isn't even turning on. THey can't run the diagnostics even cause the unit won't power up. They unhook the Kuryakyn and the cruise works just fine. They worked from the Kuryakyn instructions and not from the instructions on this forum. Would appreciate any help we can give my dealer. Thanks. |
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Visionary
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San Antonio, TX | Do the brake lights on the lower V blink as well? |
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Puddle Jumper
Posts: 12
Duvall, WA | Yes, the lower V lights blink. BTW, Kuryakyn Tech Support responded to me and said they definitely DO NOT recommend the 4710 kit or any other for the Vision due to it's wiring / electrical design. |
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Cruiser
Posts: 123
Marysville Washngton | I had the same problem. Is it unique to the 09 model? There is a small build up of voltage that the controller passes through to the brake lights and they start to blink and then come on steady. Cruise thinks the brakes are on and won't engage. When we dissconnect the controller cruise works. It has been suggested that a resistor be installed to block the voltae build up. Have not gotten around to that one yet to know if it will fix the problem. |
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Puddle Jumper
Posts: 12
Duvall, WA | From a related thread on the THEVOG.NET. Guy had the same problem and installed 2 amp equalizers. See and read below.
My cruise was still not working. I tapped 2 - 2 amp Kurakyan load equalizers in to stop lamp wires . . . one to middle and one to lower stop lamps. Cruise is working like a champ. Make sure you tap into the right wires . . . stops, not running lamps . . . almost burned up the equalizers. Some tap these in under seat . . . I tapped in behind tail lamps into rear harness.
http://www.kuryakyn.com/index.cfm/go/Home.ProductDetail/catID/8/scI... |
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Visionary
Posts: 3006
San Antonio, TX | Looks like they hooked it up to the Lower V lights. Like the cut the wires to the lower V lights.
The way I used it and it is documented here......the lower V lights remain stock. The controller only side taps the wires to the V lights and just controls the trunk lights.
Look like the dealer was trying to reinvent the wheel.
Ride Safe |
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Cruiser
Posts: 135
Yellowknife, NT Canada | I installed the 4710 on my 2008 Vision. I left the taillights alone, and only connected to the two trunk lights. I added two water tight quick disconnects to the existing trunk lights and ran new wire up from the controller to these points. Also I bought the Victory specific alarm harness from Scorpio. It snaps into the Victory tail light harness and gave me a point to tap into the Victory harness without crimping onto any of the Victory harness wires. If I want to remove the controller, there is no evidence it was even there. I will be wiring the Bushtec trailer wiring on the 24/25 of April (next visit to the bikes location). I will let you know how that all goes... |
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Need Info===Kuryakin 4710 Run-Brake-Turn Controller