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OHIO | It has been said on here numerous times, and I agree, LED lights should have came from the factory on the Vision. But besides that what other changes should Polaris do to the bike? 1) LED lights is a definite! 2) I would like to see some sort of lighting on the handlebar switches similar to the radio console. I do not like the switches all in the dark. The cruise switch will light up,,, why not do the rest. 3) Ball on kickstand. Maybe it is just me, but some times I struggle slightly getting my boot/shoe on it. 4) Low fuel. When this comes on in the display, don't have it overtake every other function!! 5) Exhaust crossover pipe under drive belt. I think this is the uglist part on the bike! Make a crome cover for it or paint it. Any others you care to add,,,,,,,,, |
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Houston, TX | Larger saddlebags on par with the new cross roads and cross country. |
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Iron Butt
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Perry Hall, MD | I agree with your list RedDog.
Eliminate distortion near edge of windshield.
Design body panel under trunk to permit installation without removal of seat and tag.
Extend rear edge of front fender.
Provide handlebar adjustments.
Place switch for driver's seat heating element on dash.
Optional remote control locks.
Incorporate turn and brake lights into trunk lights. |
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OHIO | Place switch for driver's seat heating element on dash.
Optional remote control locks.
Incorporate turn and brake lights into trunk lights ______________________________________________________ I forgot about those, but you are correct. |
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Visionary
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New Bohemia, VA | uuuhhhhh..... |
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Visionary
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| LOL, this is a funny thread. Funny as in what folks prioritize. I'd make THREE changes to the Vision.
1. I'd install stiffer fork springs
2. Incorporate a fork brace
3. Backlite the dash switches for grip heat, 4 ways and HID
I don't have a problem with the seat swt position and handlebar controls are muscle memory items (taking eyes off the road is bad, lol). You can remove the trunk without removing the seat and license plate, don't need LED's, the kickstand has already been addressed on 2010's, bags are fine, Low fuel function is perfect as the dash changes drawing attention even if you don't see the little fuel lite, and the crossover is easily painted with engine black enamel (don't even need to remove it). All windshields produce a little distortion so I have no issues there either. Maybe Victory should offer a choice on bars without needing to purchase different ones if you have a longer reach, that would be nice.
Maybe Victory will incorporate a keyless ignition at some point. Would be a great addition but definitely not a necessity. Oh and I'd much rather have a CD player than the Ipod.
oh just thought of something they SHOULD add, a damn external antenna so the weatherband actually receives. |
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Iron Butt
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Reno County, KS | CHANGE THE TRUNK!!! Get that high thing down lower and actually matching the bike's contour lines. Integrate it into the rear trim better. I'd own one then! I like the space you guys with trunks have but do not admire it's shape. I'd sooner have an HD box trunk on back. Then we can talk about a truely modular (quick release) system. Also...
CAMS! Why did I have to buy aftermarket cams to make this thing run like it needs too? |
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Visionary
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Memphis | My changes: - Integrated tire pressure monitor - "On the fly" adjustable rear shock and headlight - Adjustable cooling vents built into the fairing - Gas cap door that would stand up to a crosswind from the left when open - 5000 mile oil change interval |
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Visionary
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Pitt Meadows, BC Canada | Nothing.
I have found out where all the controls are and have learned to work them. And my dealer worries about oil, tires, stuff like that.
KevinX gave me some additional ponies cuz you can NEVER have enough of those - but that's not within the subject of this thread.
So - I won't - and wouldn't change anything. Might buy a new one if it is truely 'better'.... I just LOVE what I got - and at my age, I'm thinkin' the SPCSHP is my last one. |
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Cruiser
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Kansas City, Ks | For me the biggest changes would be:
Higher monted and brighter ( LED ) Brake Light (Hell, the whole " V " panel for brake)
Air Pump built onto bike for shock adjustment.
90 degree valve stem for Rear Wheel |
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Tourer
Posts: 447
Cleveland, GA | Make the &%$$@^&&(#@@@!!! headlight assembly easier to change the lights!!!
Three weeks ago one of my high beams went out. I spent a couple of hours changing it. I was going to change the other one, too, because I know that in cars, when one light goes, the other ususlly does, too. After the first one, I no longer had the desire to change the second one. Two weeks later, BOTH high beams were out! (I think I got grease on the one I changed). I took it to the dealer to change it, 1) because I didn't want to go through that again that quickly, and 2) just in case it was an electrical issue. It was the bulbs. My wrench said he wishes there was just a half-inch more clearance. It took him several hours to change them, too. Bless his heart; I felt sorry for him! |
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Cruiser
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Litchfield Park, AZ | One change and one change only- Water cool the bike.
I'm very surpirsed that through all these excellent posts that no one has mentioned that as a possible change. |
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Tourer
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Northeastern Penna. | How about the Victory concept motorcycles that were tossed around here ? Checking out the new Vision Bagger, I would start out with, definitely larger side bags, better design of the passenger seat - looking at the pictures of the concept Vision, it looks like that seat will be redesigned.
Lighted controls on the handlebars should have been done with this bike having 5 years of
pre-production R & D. Come on Polaris, this is a no brainer.LED lights-yes. Reverse being standard
is a yes. A recap: 1) Larger Sidebags
2) Redesign of Passenger seat
3)Lighted Handlebar controls
4) LED lights
5) Reverse- standard |
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Iron Butt
Posts: 1158
Richmond, Virginia | Cappucinno Machine
Automatic ass wiper
A conversion button to make it look like every other boring touring bike
LESS CHROME
An onboard, large gut and saggy ass removal system
A bubble encloseure so you can completely cut out the rest of the world to simulate that you are totally NOT ON A FRIGGEN MOTORCYCLE.
Please make it like a Lego, so each of you can totally dismantle it, change it, snap it back on so that each of us will have absolutely
nothing to whine, complain, criticize, or find fault with......... or just make it look like a car, that should do the trick.
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Iron Butt
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Richmond, Virginia | What I wouldnt change on my Vision?
THE FRIENDS THAT CAME A LONG WITH IT, the fun that is always incorporated around it. The excitement just looking at it in the garage knowing its mine. All that far outweighs, bigger this, smaller that, adjustable something or other, ...... but i was serious about the cappucino machine...... |
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Visionary
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Pitt Meadows, BC Canada | Mr. Richardson. My applause goes out to you - you DA man !
Water Cooled? Good God.... buy a Honda |
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Tourer
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seattle, wa | BAHAHAHA! |
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Visionary
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New Bohemia, VA | If you asked the question "changes YOU would make to your motorcycle" my answer would have been. - make it more comfortable to ride for a longer period of time.
- make it lower in the seat so when moving it around in parking it will be easier; essential for big, heavy bikes
- don't make it so top heavy
- give me more than two places to put my feet
- give me better weather protection to keep in the saddle longer even in adverse weather
All of these changes brought me to the Vision and they are the important things to me, all else is just fluff. I went on a nice little ride with some folks and was glad to have been riding my Vision. We rode for about an hour and a half and only counting the big bike riders, they were ready to stop. We had little choice but to park in a gravel parking lot and the big bikes were having a time to get situated. All, a reminder I'm glad I made the right choice for me. If you make dramatic changes to the Vision, then it won't be a Vision. Even the concept Vision bagger is a bastardization of the Vision and should not be called a Vision. I'm not trying to be a purist, but when you got a good thing going, leave it alone, meke what you "think" is better and sell it as such. Victory has a horde of choices coming up, almost as many as the Motor Company so everyone who rides and choses Victory should have a happy hiney. I wanted to roll on the ground and laugh when I saw the big HD with the shaking motor, but the bike stood still. There is a heap of expensive technology involved to have a shaking motor and keep the bike smooth. Why not make the inprovement and make a smoother running engine? Because that is what folks wants. I'm hoping the Vision II doesn't come with ABS when I buy again in about 8 years. Maybe it will have a new and improved flux capacitor with no popping... |
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Cruiser
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Extreme Southern, AZ United States | VaParadox - 2009-09-26 8:43 PM Cappucinno Machine Automatic ass wiper A conversion button to make it look like every other boring touring bike LESS CHROME An onboard, large gut and saggy ass removal system A bubble encloseure so you can completely cut out the rest of the world to simulate that you are totally NOT ON A FRIGGEN MOTORCYCLE. Please make it like a Lego, so each of you can totally dismantle it, change it, snap it back on so that each of us will have absolutely nothing to whine, complain, criticize, or find fault with......... or just make it look like a car, that should do the trick. +1 |
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Cruiser
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| More power. More ground clearance. Paint that doesn't fall of when you look at it. That is all. |
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Tourer
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Cottage Grove, Mn | Here's what i would change:
Thank's
Blackjack |
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Iron Butt
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Richmond, Virginia | Lowtone, your post caught my attention. Can you please explain what you meant by "paint that doesnt fall off when you look at it"?
That is the first time I have heard of such a problem/comment, and have not seen any such issue on my own bike. So I and im sure
several of us would be interested to hear what the issue is with your bike. Thanks (might want to do an original post and not attach it to this topic as it may not get read) Mac. |
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Cruiser
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OHIO | phoenix9 - 2009-09-26 9:39 PM One change and one change only- Water cool the bike. I'm very surpirsed that through all these excellent posts that no one has mentioned that as a possible change. I think that will only happen when the Government forces them to for EPA. Could be soon, or maybe well later on. |
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Cruiser
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OHIO | lowtone9 - 2009-09-27 9:08 AM More power. More ground clearance. Paint that doesn't fall of when you look at it. That is all. I have never had an issue with "ground clearance"???? That is one thing I really like about the bike!!!! I've never had any part of the bike rub the ground while cornering or straight on riding. |
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Iron Butt
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North Orange County CA | Practical:
+1 on the handle bar option, a little bit of adjustability without having to drop 3 bills to experiment would be nice.
Longer floorboards. Yep LONGER!
Stylistic:
Replace the graphic in the lighted "tank" badges.
Update the logo to something that doesn't resemble a WW2 aircorps insignia, and remove the Polaris name while they're at it. A company that builds machines as forward thinking as the Vision, the Core and the new X bikes shouldn't be saddled with a logo that looks like it was designed by the guy that illustrated the community chest cards in Monopoly.
If there has to be a reference to the parent company, a graphic representation of the north star in the logo should be enough. If the Polaris affiliation is important to the marketing effort the stress it in the literature. The logo should be Victory's alone.
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Tourer
Posts: 332
Dale, Indiana | After reading all the lists and thinking about some changes I'd like to have. The bike won't be a Victory Vision!
I have been changing a few things, adding many things, and wishing the time to do more things.
Problem that seems to arise.
we spend so much time working on and changing bike that we have to little time to ride bike!
I think we are all Harley want--a-be's (I.E. Wash, fix, polish bike on Saturday, park in front of Biker Bar on Sunday).
I just want-a-ride!
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Visionary
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New Bohemia, VA | Indiana RoadRunner - 2009-09-27 2:41 PM ... I just want-a-ride! woooo hooooo! |
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Cruiser
Posts: 140
| VaParadox - 2009-09-27 8:29 AM
Lowtone, your post caught my attention. Can you please explain what you meant by "paint that doesnt fall off when you look at it"?
That is the first time I have heard of such a problem/comment, and have not seen any such issue on my own bike. So I and im sure
several of us would be interested to hear what the issue is with your bike. Thanks (might want to do an original post and not attach it to this topic as it may not get read) Mac.
I think it's pretty well documented already. Paint on, at least, some of the early black bikes was crappy. I don't think there is a clearcoat. Nada clearcoat. If you breath on it, it scratches. If you sneeze on it, paint flakes off. My dealer concurs, and says tough shit.
To me, it isn't a huge deal. To me, there are no huge deals with this bike, just niggles. Like the seat. I wish they hadn't put that dumbass ridge right down the middle of the seat. |
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Visionary
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LaPorte,Tx. | SongFan - 2009-09-26 5:52 PM
My changes: - Integrated tire pressure monitor - "On the fly" adjustable rear shock and headlight - Adjustable cooling vents built into the fairing - Gas cap door that would stand up to a crosswind from the left when open - 5000 mile oil change interval
SongFan, are you working on in flight refueling? |
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Visionary
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New Bohemia, VA | VisionTex - 2009-09-27 5:12 PM SongFan - 2009-09-26 5:52 PM My changes: - Integrated tire pressure monitor - "On the fly" adjustable rear shock and headlight - Adjustable cooling vents built into the fairing - Gas cap door that would stand up to a crosswind from the left when open - 5000 mile oil change interval SongFan, are you working on in flight refueling?I hope so, I've been wanting that since day one.... |
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Cruiser
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Memphis,Tn. | Mirrors that don't show me my knuckles. |
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Iron Butt
Posts: 763
Anderson, IN (48mi NE of downtown Indianapolis) | 1. Standardize on a bolt head size throughout the bike. Other bike I need only 8mm and 10mm sockets to take apart almost anything. The Vision has several size hex and socket head screws that require many tools to disassemble anything.
2. Reduce the number of fasteners throughout the bike. Taking apart any part of the bike is a chore. The bag doors have 7 bolts per hinge. My car door has 3.
3. Easier trunk removal and reinstall. It can be turned into a two cambolt process. Should not have to remove seat, license plate, and body panels to install trunk replacement plate.
4. Victory only logo on tank badges. Current artwork is too busy and distracts from either name (Victory/Polaris).
5. Better armrests for passenger. The seat/truck combo can be extened a bit at the speakers for longer armrests.
6. Adjustable passenger floorboards. They are too low for shorter gals. Raising them puts a longer legged girl's knees in my ribs.
7. Lighted cruise control and radio buttons for night riding.
8. Onboard compressor for rear shock. I ride to work every day. The girlfriend rides on weekends or sometimes I pick her up for lunch. It would be nice to adjust with the touch of a button.
9. Built-in adjustable cooling vents in fairing. Build the Victory optional lower deflectors right into to fairing. They could be flush so they don't interupt the smooth body work.
10. Gas cap door that stays open when refueling. The slightest breeze blows it shut before I can get the nozzle in.
I could ride my Vision as-is without any of these changes and be quite happy. The bike is a step ahead of the competition. These changes along with others in this thread would put it two steps ahead and untouchable. |
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Visionary
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Memphis | I've mulled over inflight refueling more than you might think. (Just to post a video on YouTube if nothing else.) It's a "handlebar in the way" issue more than anything. |
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Tourer
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20 miles west of Chicago. | Adjustable clutch lever to match the adjustable brake lever, Did they think people have longer fingers on the left hand than the right?
Optional pullback handlebars, preferably with traditional clamps so they could pivot up and down a bit for adjusment.
As someone else said, an easier way to change out headlight bulbs, which seem to have a high failure rate. A PITA in any circumstance, a real PITA on the road. |
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Puddle Jumper
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| Changes I suggest.
Keep the Vision locked in a secure area so I am less inclined to quit working and go ride
Make the seat less comfortable so I am not tempted to do ANOTHER bun burner (1500 miles in 22 hours 32 minutes)
And could they find a way to remove all the power and make it handle worse so I am not tempted to ride fast and get ANOTHER speeding ticket.
I hope Polaris reads this post and immediately implements these changes or I might have a slow spiral into a life of riding whenever I get the urge!
Edited by mikeroark 2009-09-28 12:30 PM
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Tourer
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Simi Valley, CA | Photon Torpedoes
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Iron Butt
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Western WA | Lone Ranger - 2009-09-26 6:19 PM
Make the &%$$@^&&(#@@@!!! headlight assembly easier to change the lights!!!
Three weeks ago one of my high beams went out. I spent a couple of hours changing it. I was going to change the other one, too, because I know that in cars, when one light goes, the other ususlly does, too. After the first one, I no longer had the desire to change the second one. Two weeks later, BOTH high beams were out! (I think I got grease on the one I changed). I took it to the dealer to change it, 1) because I didn't want to go through that again that quickly, and 2) just in case it was an electrical issue. It was the bulbs. My wrench said he wishes there was just a half-inch more clearance. It took him several hours to change them, too. Bless his heart; I felt sorry for him!
HUGE + 1 on that, as well as making the side badges easy to access and replace as well.
Lighted switches for the HID, grips, and 4-way on the dash, and light the buttons on the handlebars as well. (Although then I would probably bitch that there were 'too many glowing things' at night.)
The rest I can live with. |
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Cruiser
Posts: 117
Spring Hill, Tennessee | LARGER SADDLEBAGS!
Amen to that suggestion! |
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Changes YOU would make to the Vision