Rev Limiter With Cams
Bubba
Posted 2009-09-21 9:06 AM (#44403)
Subject: Rev Limiter With Cams


Cruiser

Posts: 260
The Lloyd cams and his whole set up is outstanding. The only negative issue is the rev limiter. The power gets you too 5500 so fast it actually needs to be higher. My dyno shows that the power is still climing when it hits the limiter. Is there any way it can be raised? Thanks

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af goalie
Posted 2009-09-21 10:05 AM (#44405 - in reply to #44403)
Subject: Re: Rev Limiter With Cams


Cruiser

Posts: 203
Rapid City, SD
I thought Lloyd had a set up that would disable the rev limiter all together. Might be something to ask him. I just wouldn't know how dangerous that could be to your motor.
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Bubba
Posted 2009-09-21 10:29 AM (#44406 - in reply to #44403)
Subject: Re: Rev Limiter With Cams


Cruiser

Posts: 260
The engine management system does raise it a tad when you do his stuff, but no his stuff by itself will not change the programing from Vic. He did raise Lobsterhunters, but had the bike for months last winter.
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#57
Posted 2009-09-21 10:50 AM (#44411 - in reply to #44403)
Subject: Re: Rev Limiter With Cams


Tourer

Posts: 415
As far as I know, he can only beat the rev limiter in 6th with the Visions.
That is what he did with Lobsterhunters.
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DAL
Posted 2010-05-26 6:30 PM (#60836 - in reply to #44403)
Subject: RE: Rev Limiter With Cams


Cruiser

Posts: 60
Vancouver, B.C. & La Quinta, CA
How many cams does your Vision have? Mine only has only a single overhead cam.
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Arkainzeye
Posted 2010-05-26 6:39 PM (#60837 - in reply to #44403)
Subject: Re: Rev Limiter With Cams


Visionary

Posts: 3773
Pittsburgh, PA
My vision has 2 cams
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GeekVisionRider
Posted 2010-05-26 6:41 PM (#60838 - in reply to #60837)
Subject: Re: Rev Limiter With Cams


Cruiser

Posts: 177
Fredonia, WI United States
Arkainzeye - 2010-05-26 6:39 PM

My vision has 2 cams


Mine too!
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Vicbuilder
Posted 2010-05-26 7:02 PM (#60840 - in reply to #44403)
Subject: RE: Rev Limiter With Cams


Cruiser

Posts: 169
The Vic Shop - Central Iowa
Lloyd can reprogram your ECM to up the rev limiter. You will have to send in your computer and wait till he reflashes it and sends it back.
BTW I dunno if that was a joke but SOHC X2 cylinders = 2 cams. Thus referring to them as cams (plural)
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1atom12
Posted 2010-05-26 7:42 PM (#60841 - in reply to #44403)
Subject: Re: Rev Limiter With Cams


Tourer

Posts: 311
Atlanta Area
Lloydz ecm reprogramming is one option. The other is to replace your VFC-3 fuel controller with the new PC-V. The Vic version of the PC-V has Rev-Extend (like the Harley version) which will take you to 6000 rpms in all gears except 6th.
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#57
Posted 2010-05-26 7:55 PM (#60844 - in reply to #44403)
Subject: Re: Rev Limiter With Cams


Tourer

Posts: 415
Having Lloyd install mine this Saturday in Hooksett, NH. 6,400 rpm's in all gears plus he has changed the base map.
Devilboy posted on thevmc that he went from 104HP to 114HP with the extended revs.
Something about his fuel controller could not push enough fuel at that point.
My fuel controller has been reprogrammed to push more fuel, can't wait to see my numbers on Saturday.
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#57
Posted 2010-05-29 9:30 PM (#61055 - in reply to #60844)
Subject: Re: Rev Limiter With Cams


Tourer

Posts: 415
Rev limiter is no longer a problem. 6400 is amazing plus he did some other programming.
Bike has never run this strong before plus my MPG went up by 8.



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SongFan
Posted 2010-05-30 11:20 AM (#61092 - in reply to #44403)
Subject: RE: Rev Limiter With Cams


Visionary

Posts: 3204
Memphis
What's the top speed at the 6400 rpm redline?
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kevinx
Posted 2010-05-30 11:26 AM (#61093 - in reply to #61092)
Subject: RE: Rev Limiter With Cams


Visionary

Posts: 1340
Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators
SongFan - 2010-05-30 12:20 PM

What's the top speed?at the 6400 rpm redline?


140+ With cams, etc
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SongFan
Posted 2010-05-30 11:32 AM (#61094 - in reply to #44403)
Subject: RE: Rev Limiter With Cams


Visionary

Posts: 3204
Memphis
The bikes with the cams and 6400 rpm limiter will be easy to spot.  They'll be the ones with two oval spots on each fairing where the lowers used to be before they got blown off.
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#57
Posted 2010-05-30 1:09 PM (#61097 - in reply to #61092)
Subject: RE: Rev Limiter With Cams


Tourer

Posts: 415
I was figuring 145-150.
Before in the mid 120's comfortably riding in 6th without hitting rev limiter.
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kevinx
Posted 2010-05-30 2:53 PM (#61104 - in reply to #61097)
Subject: RE: Rev Limiter With Cams


Visionary

Posts: 1340
Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators
#57 - 2010-05-30 2:09 PM

I was figuring 145-150.
Before in the mid 120's comfortably riding in 6th without hitting rev limiter.


You need to double check your speedo. Rev limiter kicked in at 118-121 with stock ECM
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#57
Posted 2010-05-30 4:43 PM (#61110 - in reply to #44403)
Subject: Re: Rev Limiter With Cams


Tourer

Posts: 415
My GPS had me at 122 once, comfortably riding.
124 another time, was climbing but backed off when the blue lights came on.
Speedo always show higher.
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XRsteve
Posted 2010-05-30 10:00 PM (#61148 - in reply to #44403)
Subject: Re: Rev Limiter With Cams


Visionary

Posts: 2300
Georgia, west of Atlanta
I like it...........................
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XRsteve
Posted 2010-05-31 2:54 PM (#61207 - in reply to #44403)
Subject: Re: Rev Limiter With Cams


Visionary

Posts: 2300
Georgia, west of Atlanta
KevinX: How big a deal to install the Lloyds rev extend? Is it an easy add on while you're getting the cams, airbox and pipes done ??? About how much for Thundersticks, airbox, cams and rev extend for a 08 if I ride it down to Gainesville to see you ???
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kevinx
Posted 2010-05-31 3:56 PM (#61209 - in reply to #61207)
Subject: Re: Rev Limiter With Cams


Visionary

Posts: 1340
Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators
XRsteve - 2010-05-31 3:54 PM

KevinX: How big a deal to install the Lloyds rev extend? Is it an easy add on while you're getting the cams, airbox and pipes done ??? About how much for Thundersticks, airbox, cams and rev extend for a 08 if I ride it down to Gainesville to see you ???


I'll get back ith you on this later in the week. Adding the extend though is a 5 minute job
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XRsteve
Posted 2010-05-31 7:52 PM (#61235 - in reply to #44403)
Subject: Re: Rev Limiter With Cams


Visionary

Posts: 2300
Georgia, west of Atlanta
Thank you Kevin...........................
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Gadget
Posted 2010-07-10 2:47 PM (#64234 - in reply to #44403)
Subject: Re: Rev Limiter With Cams


Cruiser

Posts: 146
KevinX,

Can you quickly explain this rev extender thingy and advise on how big a job it would be for me to install myself??

Gadget
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kevinx
Posted 2010-07-10 5:08 PM (#64238 - in reply to #64234)
Subject: Re: Rev Limiter With Cams


Visionary

Posts: 1340
Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators
Gadget - 2010-07-10 3:47 PM

KevinX,

Can you quickly explain this rev extender thingy and advise on how big a job it would be for me to install myself??

Gadget


Rev extend is a replacement ECM that has code written out to 6200RPM in all gears. This allows you to hold your shift for max power. Replacement is as simple as removing the seat, and removing 4 bolts that hold the ECM
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bigwill5150
Posted 2010-07-10 9:35 PM (#64251 - in reply to #44403)
Subject: Re: Rev Limiter With Cams


Iron Butt

Posts: 725
Reno County, KS
I'm trying to follow this but the information is not easily found. Is this something he is offering or going to offer on an exchange basis? If so, does anyone have a current ballpark price? I would email him but he has been extremely busy lately.
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kevinx
Posted 2010-07-10 9:42 PM (#64253 - in reply to #64251)
Subject: Re: Rev Limiter With Cams


Visionary

Posts: 1340
Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators
He is selling them now for about $250 with exchange, or add like another $250 core charge. Call and speak to Bre, and she can give you details
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rcvision
Posted 2010-07-14 1:27 PM (#64534 - in reply to #44403)
Subject: Re: Rev Limiter With Cams


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 48
Oakdale MN
If you have done cams to your bike this is a MUST do improvment. Clearly the best spent $250 for your bike and rider pleasure.
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XRsteve
Posted 2010-07-15 11:00 PM (#64641 - in reply to #64534)
Subject: Re: Rev Limiter With Cams


Visionary

Posts: 2300
Georgia, west of Atlanta
I'm really looking forward to this modification.....................VM1 cams, thundersticks, airbox or torque tubes and rev extend.........
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Webhair
Posted 2010-07-16 7:44 AM (#64651 - in reply to #44403)
Subject: Re: Rev Limiter With Cams


Iron Butt

Posts: 669
Peachtree City, GA

You will enjoy it! Do you have a date planned yet?

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XRsteve
Posted 2010-07-16 8:54 AM (#64659 - in reply to #44403)
Subject: Re: Rev Limiter With Cams


Visionary

Posts: 2300
Georgia, west of Atlanta
Sometime in the Fall probably.......
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kevinx
Posted 2010-07-16 7:51 PM (#64690 - in reply to #64641)
Subject: Re: Rev Limiter With Cams


Visionary

Posts: 1340
Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators
XRsteve - 2010-07-16 12:00 AM

I'm really looking forward to this modification.....................VM1 cams, thundersticks, airbox or torque tubes and rev extend.........


Sorry steve, but no Torque Tubes for you. Just an intake plate; like everyone else
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XRsteve
Posted 2010-07-16 9:32 PM (#64691 - in reply to #44403)
Subject: Re: Rev Limiter With Cams


Visionary

Posts: 2300
Georgia, west of Atlanta
Damn, I was hoping Lloyd might have them for Visions by the end of summer. Don't matter I'm coming down to Gainesville to see you this fall Kevin.......I will make an appointment and would like some dyno time to if available.........
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TimS
Posted 2010-07-18 12:03 AM (#64773 - in reply to #64253)
Subject: Re: Rev Limiter With Cams


Iron Butt

Posts: 810

Hi Kevin,

Besides extending the Rev Limit, is there any other improvements to the ECM programming? 

Can the ECM be reprogrammed to eliminate the need for an inline aftermarket fuel controller?

Hope you beaches are staying oil free.

Thanks,

Tim

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