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Iron Butt
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Anderson, IN (48mi NE of downtown Indianapolis) | My trunk rattled right off the show room floor. I took it in under warranty, but they couldn't fix it because there were no fixes from Victory. I immediately saw what was wrong, but it took me some time to figure out how to fix it with common tools so I could post it in this forum.
Problem: The latch hooks are too long. It's as simple as that. Neither the hooks nor the latch are adjustable. The weather stripping is not making contact around the entire lid. This causes other rattles too such as the speaker grills and black plastic pieces on the sides of the lid.
Fix: Shorten the latch hooks. It took me a while to figure how to do this in such a way that a common guy with common tools could repeat the process. Simply bending the hook will shorten it enough to pull the trunk lid down tight.
Start with an unmodified lid (no added weather stripping, tape around the latch hooks, etc.). If you made any modifications to stop the rattle, undo them. You need to start with a lid that is in stock format.
1. Measure the distance the hooks need shortened. This measurement is critical and is actually very small. With the lid properly closed, measure the gap between the chrome piece on the lid and the trunk itself. Write that number down. In my case it was 0.40 inches.
2. Push down on the lid with your hand so that all the stock weather stripping is making a good seal all the way around. Use your judgment on how tight you want the lid. If you make it too tight the release button will be hard to push. Write this number down. In my case it was 0.35 inches.
3. The amount to shorten the hooks is the difference between the two numbers. In my case it was 0.40 – 0.35 = 0.05 inches.
4. Remove one of latch hooks.
5. Attach the hook to a piece of metal using the stock screws. This will help maintain the bolt pattern when you bend the hooks.
6. Measure the length of the hook. In my case it was 1.85 inches.
7. Calculate the final length. 1.85 - 0.05 = 1.8 inches
8. Put the hook in a vice and squeeze. Use two bolts to concentrate the force to the middle of the legs. Squeeze a bit then measure. Don't over bend them or the trunk lid will latch too tightly. The top loop of the hook will bow out. This is ok because you will achieve your final dimension by straightening it out.
9. Straighten the top loop. Using a bolt as before, concentrate the force to the middle of the top loop and tighten the vice. Place a scale on the latch while performing this step so you know when to stop.
10. Take the latch out of the vice and measure again because the metal can spring back. Repeat above step if required.
11. Before attempting the other hook, reinstall the modified one to make sure it is bent correctly. If it doesn't work to your satisfaction, tweek it in the vice a little at a time until it works correctly. When all is good, repeat for the second hook.
Step by step pics:
http://picasaweb.google.com/victoryvisiontour/FixTrunkRattleForGood...
Edited by victoryvisiontour 2009-08-29 5:24 PM
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Visionary
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New Bohemia, VA | my mind has rattled this idea for sometime, but this common guy doesn't have a vice to do it, but has a friend that does. taking the time to do it is my problem, but I agree that is the best fix I know of. |
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Iron Butt
Posts: 763
Anderson, IN (48mi NE of downtown Indianapolis) | varyder,
I added a link to pics in the above posting. There are 11 pics. If they don't appear click "view all". Or here is a new link that automatically shows all:
http://picasaweb.google.com/victoryvisiontour/FixTrunkRattleForGood...
This mod really works. Hope you do good with it.
Edited by victoryvisiontour 2009-08-29 5:36 PM
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Visionary
Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA | hey, I can do that! I was thinking you pushed up the bottom, but that makes much more sense. thanks for taking one for the team! |
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Cruiser
Posts: 235
Kincardine, Ontario, Canada | Good job, thanks for doing the hard work for the rest of us. Now if Vic could step up to the plate with shorter latches, everyone would be happy |
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Cruiser
Posts: 266
Stockton, Ca. | Sounds like a lot of work to me! I just removed the hooks and removed the spacer plate under them. Put the hooks back on. It took less than 5 minutes and my trunk shuts nice and tight. I could not see any good reason for the plates except as a spacer. The hooks are just as stable as they were with the plates on. |
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Visionary
Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA | Ok I thought of removing the spacer, but being plastic I thought maybe it would eventually cause cracks so I decided not to go that route. I'm not saying it won't work or it will crack, that is just my assesment. |
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Cruiser
Posts: 133
New Castle Delaware | I just went out in the garage and removed my spacers. Seems fine and there is metal on metal where the bolt theads into the trunk lid so I don't think it should stress the plastic on the lid. |
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Puddle Jumper
Posts: 9
BHC AZ | I also have a rattle( with rack) and it seems that Victory would step up with a cure, I havn't taken mine back to the dealer yet but will soon. |
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Cruiser
Posts: 154
Cabot Arkansas | Victory has a kit to fix this, it consist of some felt strips that go under the armrests and a couple of rubber bumpers that go on each side of the latch.I had this installed on my 09 and it eliminated probably 90-95% of the noise.Trunk is just slightly harder to open and close now |
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Cruiser
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New Castle Delaware | Maverick is correct of course my dealership knew nothing about this so I emailed Rob Gregory at Gregory Polaris near Little Rock who I met last year due to a flat tire out that way. He sent me the part numbers and copy of the instructions. I then went to my dealer and the computer had the felt strips in it but not the rubber bumpers. He had to call Polaris and ordered them over the phone. I opted to buy felt strips at Home depot to put under the black plastic armrest area. The part numbers are 5813263 for the felt strips and 5413754 for the rubber bumpers. If anyone wants the instructions I can email them just PM and leave your email. I tried to download to this post but too big a file. |
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Iron Butt
Posts: 763
Anderson, IN (48mi NE of downtown Indianapolis) | The weather stripping on my lid was not making contact with the trunk. So, the trunk was not 100 percent rain proof. A slight amount of dust would find its way in too. The Vic fix only stops the rattle. Shorter latches stop the rattle AND seals the trunk on the stock weather stripping.
As far as removing the spacers, that was my first thought too. When I saw what was underneath I decided against it. I have background with threaded inserts. They will not come out with a straight pull, but this type is not intended to resist lateral forces. The leg of the latch hook is L shaped. This means each time you open and close the lid you exert a bending moment on the hook. If the threaded inserts are the only thing resisting this moment, the plastic around them could possibly fatigue over time and crack. I believe the "spacers" are not spacers at all, but load distributors instead.
Edited by victoryvisiontour 2009-08-31 10:19 AM
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Cruiser
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New Castle Delaware | Good point, You maybe right! |
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Iron Butt
Posts: 763
Anderson, IN (48mi NE of downtown Indianapolis) | Computer mouse pad foam works great for most other plastic vibration rattles like the gauge bezel, trunk arm rests, etc. Use the foam type not the neoprene or rubber. The foam is low density so it will squeeze down to almost zero thickness so it doesn't cause any dimensional interference with mating parts. Here is a link to fixing the gauge bezel with this foam.
http://www.Vision-riders.com/bb/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=2277&pos... |
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Cruiser
Posts: 256
| I did this and it helped but still the long black side pieces rattle. Any writeups for that fix? |
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Tourer
Posts: 401
| I tried this, and ended up mangling the hooks. It works better, but the hooks look like crap now.
I did come up with a real simple solution for the tail light rattle.
Go here:
http://www.vision-riders.com/bb/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=9157&sta... |
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Visionary
Posts: 1365
Central Maryland | Check your rear speaker covers. the one on my left rear was rattling; and I overlooked it for something else in the trunk. |
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Puddle Jumper
Posts: 28
Carrollton, TX | I agree that shortening the hooks is the best complete fix. I shotened mine by welding in a piece of 3/16" key stck. Closes correctly, seals correctly, and no gap. |
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Glendale, AZ United States | I just tightened the bolts in the trunk and no rattle, but I just did this yesterday going over the bike after talking to my brother who apparently lost a couple of bolts on his 2013 HD roadglide custom with 5K. |
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New user
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Fort Dodge, IA | I found a much simpler fix. I installed 1/4" closed cell foam to trunk where seal sits. No more rattle or dust in trunk.
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Fix your trunk rattle for good