Polaris Concept Survey
ScoreBo
Posted 2009-08-28 5:31 PM (#42689)
Subject: Polaris Concept Survey


Iron Butt

Posts: 1117
Northeast Ohio
Any one get this?

Here is what might be on the docket in the near future in no particular order:











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kevinx
Posted 2009-08-28 5:50 PM (#42690 - in reply to #42689)
Subject: RE: Polaris Concept Survey


Visionary

Posts: 1340
Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators
WOW talk about a bunch of cool ideas!!!!!!!!!!!!!
As far as car like I predicted that they would team with KTM, and we would see something more like the
X-bow. Front end of that thing looks like a RZR.

Here is the X-bow

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Blackjack
Posted 2009-08-28 6:06 PM (#42691 - in reply to #42689)
Subject: Re: Polaris Concept Survey


Tourer

Posts: 367
Cottage Grove, Mn
I got, that's some Way cool Stuff
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varyder
Posted 2009-08-28 6:29 PM (#42694 - in reply to #42689)
Subject: Re: Polaris Concept Survey


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
the Vision is still the only one with superior weather protection. this is the first time I seen this, is this an email or snail mail?

oh, and I still like the Vision Tour over the Bagger...

I'd take the core and have it for my work scoot...

Edited by varyder 2009-08-28 6:31 PM
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ScoreBo
Posted 2009-08-28 6:38 PM (#42696 - in reply to #42689)
Subject: Re: Polaris Concept Survey


Iron Butt

Posts: 1117
Northeast Ohio
It was an email. I got one either late last year or early this year too. The Vision 8-ball was in that survey.

There was also, what appeared to be, a picture of a can-am spyder in this survey as well. LOVE the core, LOVE the Cross Country Bagger, but absolutely HATE the Vision bagger. I also didn't like the fact that they reference the sound of a Harley in concept A and D. How about "it sounds like a traditional Victory"?
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ScoreBo
Posted 2009-08-28 6:46 PM (#42697 - in reply to #42690)
Subject: RE: Polaris Concept Survey


Iron Butt

Posts: 1117
Northeast Ohio
KevinX - Never heard of that one! Me likes it!

My boss has always wanted a T-Rex and that is the first thing I thought of.

Link to T-Rex: http://www.campagnamotors.com/

Do a YouTube search for them. They appear to be a blast, but quite pricey.

Edited by ScoreBo 2009-08-28 6:46 PM
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kevinx
Posted 2009-08-28 6:56 PM (#42698 - in reply to #42697)
Subject: RE: Polaris Concept Survey


Visionary

Posts: 1340
Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators
ScoreBo - 2009-08-28 6:46 PM

KevinX - Never heard of that one! Me likes it!

My boss has always wanted a T-Rex and that is the first thing I thought of.

Link to T-Rex: http://www.campagnamotors.com/

Do a YouTube search for them. They appear to be a blast, but quite pricey.


Rode around in a T-Rex turbo for a few days in Daytona back in 04. Talk about a hoot. Scary as can be on the freeway though. Nothing like looking up at the underside of a Bubba Truck
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varyder
Posted 2009-08-28 7:00 PM (#42699 - in reply to #42696)
Subject: Re: Polaris Concept Survey


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
ScoreBo - 2009-08-28 7:38 PM

It was an email. I got one either late last year or early this year too. The Vision 8-ball was in that survey.

There was also, what appeared to be, a picture of a can-am spyder in this survey as well. LOVE the core, LOVE the Cross Country Bagger, but absolutely HATE the Vision bagger. I also didn't like the fact that they reference the sound of a Harley in concept A and D. How about "it sounds like a traditional Victory"?


yeah, if they go with the harley clone and harley sound so much for redefining the future. I like the different that Victory has, if they start being like the jap crap and cloning harley's they've sold out IMHO.
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kevinx
Posted 2009-08-28 7:51 PM (#42704 - in reply to #42689)
Subject: Re: Polaris Concept Survey


Visionary

Posts: 1340
Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators
Anybody else notice the Core they show has a rear suspesion??
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varyder
Posted 2009-08-28 7:57 PM (#42705 - in reply to #42704)
Subject: Re: Polaris Concept Survey


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
kevinx - 2009-08-28 8:51 PM

Anybody else notice the Core they show has a rear suspesion??


??? Looks hardtail 2 me. Where's the swing?
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Miles
Posted 2009-08-28 8:24 PM (#42709 - in reply to #42689)
Subject: Re: Polaris Concept Survey


Tourer

Posts: 548
Mount Vernon, WA United States
Vision Bagger or Cross Country Bagger. Tough choice. I like the extra storage on the lowers, but that's certainly not a deal breaker. 39 gallons of storage capacity is getting closer to "touring" and something that really interests me. 29 is closer to what I can setup on my sport bike with off-the-shelf soft bags and about what my V92C is now. Just not acceptable. These look like real deals.
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kevinx
Posted 2009-08-28 8:39 PM (#42710 - in reply to #42705)
Subject: Re: Polaris Concept Survey


Visionary

Posts: 1340
Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators
varyder - 2009-08-28 7:57 PM

kevinx - 2009-08-28 8:51 PM

Anybody else notice the Core they show has a rear suspesion??


??? Looks hardtail 2 me. Where's the swing?


Look closer. Shock is a diagnal link under the seat, and the pivot is offset from the bottom line of the frame.
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elvis441
Posted 2009-08-28 9:13 PM (#42712 - in reply to #42689)
Subject: Re: Polaris Concept Survey


Cruiser

Posts: 170
Houston, TX
OMG!!! I would love to have that XC bagger!!!!
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wjoel
Posted 2009-08-28 10:19 PM (#42718 - in reply to #42689)
Subject: RE: Polaris Concept Survey


Tourer

Posts: 447
Northeastern Penna.
I'll say one thing, if this is not a hoax,then the Vision bagger and Vision tour will undoubtedly,continue to be the greatest looking bike since sliced bread. Did you notice on the bagger, the rear seat is flat across,but you can't see the rear seat on the tour model. I like the 39 gal. of storage.
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elvis441
Posted 2009-08-29 5:08 AM (#42726 - in reply to #42712)
Subject: Re: Polaris Concept Survey


Cruiser

Posts: 170
Houston, TX
elvis441 - 2009-08-28 8:13 PM

OMG!!! I would love to have that XC bagger!!!!


I have to say though, $23,000 for simply adding a trunk and few extras seems a little pricey. Plus I find it hard to imagine that Victory would produce another tourer to compete on the same price point as the Vision. Just MHO.

Edited by elvis441 2009-08-29 5:15 AM
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elvis441
Posted 2009-08-29 5:19 AM (#42727 - in reply to #42696)
Subject: Re: Polaris Concept Survey


Cruiser

Posts: 170
Houston, TX
ScoreBo - 2009-08-28 5:38 PM

It was an email. I got one either late last year or early this year too. The Vision 8-ball was in that survey.

There was also, what appeared to be, a picture of a can-am spyder in this survey as well. LOVE the core, LOVE the Cross Country Bagger, but absolutely HATE the Vision bagger. I also didn't like the fact that they reference the sound of a Harley in concept A and D. How about "it sounds like a traditional Victory"?


Were they asking your opinion on your likes and dislikes of each model or was it simply: "We're thinking about doing some of these"?
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radioteacher
Posted 2009-08-29 9:21 AM (#42737 - in reply to #42689)
Subject: Re: Polaris Concept Survey


Visionary

Posts: 3006
San Antonio, TX
I would love to be able to remove the back end of my Vision and put on the Vision Bagger bags. If they are like the XC bags, they would hold more and be more functional.

It would be nice to keep the V tail light on the Vision Bagger.

I like the idea of a quick release removable trunk.

Other than that I would keep my 2008 Vision rather then buy any new listed.

Ride Safe
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ScoreBo
Posted 2009-08-29 9:26 AM (#42739 - in reply to #42689)
Subject: Re: Polaris Concept Survey


Iron Butt

Posts: 1117
Northeast Ohio
For the single bike pics, it was a 4 or 5 answer selection. Something like definitely would buy, probably, might, maybe, no. On the page the that would have two bikes it would ask me if I liked left more than right, right more than left, neutral, not interested.

Also, there was a question or two around my interest in a 799cc-1200cc bike.
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wjoel
Posted 2009-08-29 9:41 AM (#42741 - in reply to #42689)
Subject: RE: Polaris Concept Survey


Tourer

Posts: 447
Northeastern Penna.
Radioteacher, I'm with you on that idea. In my Vision world, one big missing piece, is to have the large XC size bags.
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radioteacher
Posted 2009-08-29 10:05 AM (#42743 - in reply to #42689)
Subject: Re: Polaris Concept Survey


Visionary

Posts: 3006
San Antonio, TX
On the Sportser type bike that is concept bike "C", why in Gods green earth would I want a Victory with Push Rods?

I wish they listed prices on the A and B bikes. I have never had a water cooled bike but it might be nice to run around town on. I would want detachable bags that could fit a full sized laptop in and back rack that can be used to tie down a 12" Pizza.

Right now I pick up my Monday night pizza on the Vision and put it on the back seat. I have to remove the Utopia Backrest and sit about two inches forward on the seat but it is not a long drive home.

Edited by radioteacher 2009-08-29 10:06 AM
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Side Car
Posted 2009-08-29 10:45 AM (#42745 - in reply to #42743)
Subject: Re: Polaris Concept Survey


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 44
Salt lake city Ut.
Very cool ideas! I wonder if The KTM street power plants or the S&S connection is a posibility?
I really like the cross country tour.
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varyder
Posted 2009-08-29 11:21 AM (#42749 - in reply to #42689)
Subject: Re: Polaris Concept Survey


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA
I'm going to say that the bagger Vision has some trade off, one aero's and two weight when loaded. I think with those, it'll handle very good as a motorcycle, but will lose some of its Visionaire...

I'll keep my Vision until they pry the throttle from my cold dead hand...
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ScoreBo
Posted 2009-08-29 12:14 PM (#42754 - in reply to #42743)
Subject: Re: Polaris Concept Survey


Iron Butt

Posts: 1117
Northeast Ohio
Radioteacher - $9999 was on the bottom of the page, but not on the picture.

Edited by ScoreBo 2009-08-29 12:14 PM
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ScoreBo
Posted 2009-08-29 12:15 PM (#42755 - in reply to #42749)
Subject: Re: Polaris Concept Survey


Iron Butt

Posts: 1117
Northeast Ohio
varyder - 2009-08-29 11:21 AM

I'm going to say that the bagger Vision has some trade off, one aero's and two weight when loaded. I think with those, it'll handle very good as a motorcycle, but will lose some of its Visionaire...

I'll keep my Vision until they pry the throttle from my cold dead hand...


A big +1 here.
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river v
Posted 2009-08-29 12:47 PM (#42758 - in reply to #42689)
Subject: RE: Polaris Concept Survey


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 20
Fort Myers, FL United States
I like the XC, but I'd stay with the Vision. More storage would be great. If some tweaking can be done without compromising the styling, I'd be all for it.
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VisionTex
Posted 2009-08-29 5:20 PM (#42774 - in reply to #42758)
Subject: RE: Polaris Concept Survey


Visionary

Posts: 1484
LaPorte,Tx.
With the creation of the On Road Div. at Polaris, I'm sure a highway vehicle with more than two wheels is in the future. This will be big for the company as motorcycle riders age and may feel they can't handle motorcycle, but still want to be involved in the sport. For big city commuting everyday, some people buy the Smart Car, the Smart Person, would buy one of these!
There is no doubt the larger motors are in the future, on all the bikes. 116 cu in Vision would be sweet.
The Core bike was at Rapid City this year during Sturgis. The one in this picture is a lot different in that it is road ready with mirrors, turn signals, rear suspension, front fender, plus the exhaust on the right side. If sold, this will be a rocket ship.
The loaded XC is a Victory Ultra Classic. It will sell a lot.
The Vision Bagger is not for me.
Last year at the AVR I was shown one of the motors shown in the A, B, C concept bikes. This year at Sturgis, in a discussion with Victory, they indicated that project had been slowed due to project funding...but it will be moved forward in the future, maybe soon.
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elvis441
Posted 2009-08-29 10:41 PM (#42796 - in reply to #42689)
Subject: Re: Polaris Concept Survey


Cruiser

Posts: 170
Houston, TX
If they sell the XC bagger I will buy one.
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Jedi Jeff
Posted 2009-08-31 6:24 AM (#42900 - in reply to #42689)
Subject: Re: Polaris Concept Survey


Fountain Inn, SC United States
That's what I like about the people on this site. There's hardly any Victory bashing when it comes to viewing new styles/ideas. Sure, there's conflicting opinion, but that's fine. That's one of the reasons Victory chose us for posting photos of unveiling new models at the dealer meeting. As for the survey email, I for one appreciate that Victory is seeking out opinion. Some of the options they give may be beyond what they really intend to offer but they use them to identify extremes. Just saying thanks for your thoughtful opinions. I'm sure Victory is reading this thread and taking notes.

my take:

1. I'd love to see more storage on the Vision but not at the expense of sacrificing its lines. I'm sure the design team already has come up with a couple solutions.

2. I would buy a XC Bagger and lower it like the Ness custom at the AVR.

3. I would love to have a CORE if it had the swing arm kevinx believe is there!!!!!
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radioteacher
Posted 2009-08-31 7:24 AM (#42910 - in reply to #42689)
Subject: Re: Polaris Concept Survey


Visionary

Posts: 3006
San Antonio, TX
It is a silly thing but it bugs me that Concept "H" says 106 ci and 1638 cc.

100 ci is 1638 cc
106 ci is 1732 cc

Sorry, it just messes with my head every time I see it.
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elvis441
Posted 2009-08-31 8:05 AM (#42919 - in reply to #42910)
Subject: Re: Polaris Concept Survey


Cruiser

Posts: 170
Houston, TX
radioteacher - 2009-08-31 6:24 AM

It is a silly thing but it bugs me that Concept "H" says 106 ci and 1638 cc.

100 ci is 1638 cc
106 ci is 1732 cc

Sorry, it just messes with my head every time I see it.


I noticed that too. The engineers must have gone to school in OK.
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Gadget
Posted 2009-10-17 4:25 PM (#46110 - in reply to #42689)
Subject: Re: Polaris Concept Survey


Cruiser

Posts: 146
+1 on the "CORE" as a work scoot.......
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Teach
Posted 2009-10-17 8:52 PM (#46122 - in reply to #42689)
Subject: Re: Polaris Concept Survey


Visionary

Posts: 1436
I have been hearing rumors the 2011 Cross Country would offer a trunk. I figure by 2011 lots of folks who have already purchased one will have figured a way to mount an aftermarket or HD trunk, it just makes sense. Even if you bought a CC, new HD trunk w/hardware and had someone fabricate a mount you would only be at around $19500. So thats a real expensive trunk and lowers.
I think the Vission bagger is a bad idea, although I think the trunk on the bagger looks nicer than the current Vision trunk (just the trunk, not the mount). You lose the destinctive Vision V brakelite on the bagger.
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Jedi Jeff
Posted 2009-10-18 7:06 AM (#46141 - in reply to #42689)
Subject: Re: Polaris Concept Survey


Fountain Inn, SC United States
When talking with Victory, they told me a trunk (tourpack) was already developed and would be offered for the XC/XR as an accessory.
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Chico7z
Posted 2010-06-13 10:34 AM (#62096 - in reply to #42758)
Subject: RE: Polaris Concept Survey


Cruiser

Posts: 170
Barrington, NH
I like the 116" motor option
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XRsteve
Posted 2010-06-13 2:44 PM (#62108 - in reply to #42689)
Subject: Re: Polaris Concept Survey


Visionary

Posts: 2300
Georgia, west of Atlanta
All very interesting. will be nice to see how this all plays out. I really like the XC bagger and I'd like to see a Vision bagger in real life. The 116" engine,nows that's an A+ for me.................
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wjoel
Posted 2010-06-13 3:44 PM (#62113 - in reply to #42689)
Subject: RE: Polaris Concept Survey


Tourer

Posts: 447
Northeastern Penna.
Bring on the Vision Bagger! I've test rode the XC, but the Vision, is hands down, a much better ride.
Having said that, improve the Vision with bigger side bags, that's the missing link.
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XRsteve
Posted 2010-06-13 4:22 PM (#62115 - in reply to #42689)
Subject: Re: Polaris Concept Survey


Visionary

Posts: 2300
Georgia, west of Atlanta
Where did this come from ???
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Victorywldr
Posted 2010-06-14 10:46 AM (#62164 - in reply to #42689)
Subject: Re: Polaris Concept Survey


Cruiser

Posts: 61
I thought I was the Missing Link!!!!!!!!!!!!
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XRsteve
Posted 2010-06-14 7:46 PM (#62208 - in reply to #42689)
Subject: Re: Polaris Concept Survey


Visionary

Posts: 2300
Georgia, west of Atlanta
I keep coming back and looking at the Vision bagger...............
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ScoreBo
Posted 2010-06-14 7:51 PM (#62209 - in reply to #42689)
Subject: Re: Polaris Concept Survey


Iron Butt

Posts: 1117
Northeast Ohio
This is soooo August of 2009. I had another survey, but there was a non-disclosure on that one, so no more posting potential futures.
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XRsteve
Posted 2010-06-14 8:35 PM (#62212 - in reply to #42689)
Subject: Re: Polaris Concept Survey


Visionary

Posts: 2300
Georgia, west of Atlanta
Bummer !!!!!!!!
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ScoreBo
Posted 2010-06-14 8:45 PM (#62213 - in reply to #42689)
Subject: Re: Polaris Concept Survey


Iron Butt

Posts: 1117
Northeast Ohio
Yeah, I think it is crap. I think all I did to get on the list was signing up for a Polaris account.
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XRsteve
Posted 2010-06-15 2:17 PM (#62287 - in reply to #42689)
Subject: Re: Polaris Concept Survey


Visionary

Posts: 2300
Georgia, west of Atlanta
Well, what the hell, the pics looked good especially the XC & Vision baggers...................
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radioteacher
Posted 2010-06-15 4:08 PM (#62293 - in reply to #42689)
Subject: Re: Polaris Concept Survey


Visionary

Posts: 3006
San Antonio, TX
I would like the extra (usable) storage space that the bags would provide my Vision.
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XRsteve
Posted 2010-06-23 8:49 PM (#62988 - in reply to #42689)
Subject: Re: Polaris Concept Survey


Visionary

Posts: 2300
Georgia, west of Atlanta
Keep our fingers crossed................
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VaParadox
Posted 2010-06-23 10:03 PM (#62996 - in reply to #42689)
Subject: Re: Polaris Concept Survey


Iron Butt

Posts: 1158
Richmond, Virginia
This original post came out almost 2 years ago. None of this is new or new news.............. we've all seen these photos..............zzzzzzzzzz
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