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Barefoot Bay, FL United States | Has anyone attempted to put these on their Vision? The folks at Tailgunner have told me they have a set that is 38" long. According to my tape measure, that's just about perfect for fitting them on my "08 Vision. At 38", I'm just about half-way to the tip of the sixgun add-on tips of the S1L1's, when starting at the connection to the header pipe.
Any comments??
Chrome ain't a color, it's the way life should be. |
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Rapid City, SD | I have always wondered the same thing. I think it would be cool if it would fit. See if they'll give you a good discount and you'll take plenty of pictures for their website. |
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Iron Butt
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Richmond, Virginia | I went down this road with them 6 months ago. After 2 months of irritating communications, (they are not that easy to get technical
information from) I ended up suggesting that my Vision technician call them and ask all the pertinent questions thinking maybe
the gear head hot shot at Tailgunner could relate to him better. Here is what we finally found out. You cannot just replace the
tips of your exhaust with the spinning guns, the diameters are not the same and Tailgunner either doesnt have or is unwilling to make
a connector unit for us to do this with. So the only way you can get the tips is to buy their entire exhaust system and replace the entire
pipe units etc etc etc just to get the spinning tips. I wanted the jet tips for my Vision because I thought they looked better suited
to the Visions design, but the issue was the same regardless of which tips you want. Hope this helps but i moved on. |
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Tacoma, WA | I made my own, and didn't want them to turn. I just couldn't see the cost! Here is a pic or two:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/metalguy/IMG_2313.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/metalguy/IMG_2315.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v240/metalguy/IMG_2319.jpg
They were fun to make. I also made a set for my Dad's Goldwing, as he saw mine, and LOVED them!-------Metalguy 
Edited by metalguy 2009-08-02 12:15 PM
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, FL United States | That is a good job Metalguy. |
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Barefoot Bay, FL United States | VaParadox.....I'm not trying replace just the tips. I think that is impossible, as they don't make anything that small. I'm talking about replacing the entire exhaust, just as if you were going from stock to S1L1, stock to S1L2, or S1L1 to S1L2. The whole exhaust gets replaced. Tail gunner has a 38" complete system, that is finished like the S1L2, as a chrome unit, complete, not just a cover. The last 8"-10" are the exposed spinning sections. |
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Barefoot Bay, FL United States | And yep, they ARE EXPENSIVE!!! |
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Iron Butt
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Richmond, Virginia | You are correct you would have no choice other then to replace the entire system. Just didnt know if that was your desire or not.
Check out the jet tips, love those puppies.. |
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Tucker, Ga. | They look nice but I like the thunder sticks much better as far as cosmetically on the Vision! |
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Extreme Southern, AZ United States | I guess it is all up to your taste. I think they look well, gimmicky.
The Thundersticks not only look good, they are LOUUUUDDD! I watched Mike Schults dial in a set of them. They took over two hours to tune but they sound schweet! |
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Tucker, Ga. | I agree! |
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scotts valley, California | Hey, Mr. Metalguy, I've been admiring the photos of your gattlins just about since you posted them. I am having a friend make me a set with five 1" OD barrels. Do you mind me using your design as a starting point? We started with a sixth in the center like yours, but then he thought he could make spinners out of them, which would eliminate the center barrel. Do you think this will affect back pressure -- even with the kevinx cam? |
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Tacoma, WA | I highly doubt backpressure will be affected. I used six 1" diameter tubes, and the stock opening is approximately 1.75". 5 would be no problem. Just to let you know...they did not affect the sound even a tiny bit. Since I made them out of stainless, they have a nice tan sheen to them from the heat of the bike now. I love them! I would send you the files used to water jet out the plates the tubes are pressed into, if you want them. -----Metalguy |
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Allen Park, MI | metalguy - 2009-09-24 10:00 PM
I highly doubt backpressure will be affected. I used six 1" diameter tubes, and the stock opening is approximately 1.75". 5 would be no problem. Just to let you know...they did not affect the sound even a tiny bit. Since I made them out of stainless, they have a nice tan sheen to them from the heat of the bike now. I love them! I would send you the files used to water jet out the plates the tubes are pressed into, if you want them. -----Metalguy
Hey Metal...have you ever thought of producing these for the folks here on Vision-Riders?? ..or is this something that is too costly or time absorbing??
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Tacoma, WA | I had thought about it, but was wondering how much interest there would be. I only did mine because I like the look better than the factory gunner tips. I did make a set for my Dad's Goldwing, as he really thought they were "cool". They can be put on with, or without the baloney cut outer shield in place. I used the original base from the tips to make them mount up easily.-------Metalguy |
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Allen Park, MI | metalguy - 2009-09-25 11:42 PM
I had thought about it, but was wondering how much interest there would be. I only did mine because I like the look better than the factory gunner tips. I did make a set for my Dad's Goldwing, as he really thought they were "cool". They can be put on with, or without the baloney cut outer shield in place. I used the original base from the tips to make them mount up easily.-------Metalguy
Well if you DID want to undertake this for the group....where do you think they would price? This may be a way of gauging interest??
Thanks for taking the time,
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Iron Butt
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Richmond, Virginia | Interesting that this topic just re- surfaced again on here. Last month I got an unexpected email from Tailgunner "promoting" their pipes.
When I RE-responded back to them the history that they were uncooperative, hard to work with, and didnt seem interested in making
pipes and tips for our bikes, the guy came back with " NOW I REMEMBER YOU....." Long story short, apparently since I raised so much cain over them promoting their product for our bike when in fact they HAD NO PRODUCT FOR OUR BIKE, they have gotten several other similar calls and emails same as mine SO, they are coming out for 2010 with pieces parts for Visions. See the
squeaky wheel asshole (thats me), does get some grease. |
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Tacoma, WA | If I were to make them, I would charge around $250 for a set. -------Metalguy |
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San Antonio, TX | metalguy,
How hard would they be to put on? |
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Allen Park, MI | radioteacher - 2009-09-27 11:28 PM
metalguy,
How hard would they be to put on?
Also....do you have to purchase the open ended tips for your exhaust?
Edited by Prostreet1 2009-09-28 5:42 AM
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Tourer
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Tacoma, WA | They bolt on just like the original tips. 3 bolts. Easy. Even I can do it! LOL! I basically used my old tips, and modded them. I guess if I were to gear up to make these, I would need to do it either on an exchange basis, or something. It is why they bolt on, as I used the original tip's parts. No need for open ended tips...-----Metalguy |
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Visionary
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San Antonio, TX | metalguy,
I have Stage 1 Level 2 pipes. The stock gatlins will not mount up to my pipes. I guess that counts me out. Bummer.
Have a good one and ride to live! |
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Tacoma, WA | What tips fit on your pipes now?? Being that I am unfamiliar with what tips' difference, if any, I cannot tell you if they would bolt up or not. Mine use the stock tip's hardware to bolt up. I am a fabricator by trade, and modding things is fun for me. I do it on aerospace equipment all the time, with engineers blessing, of course.----Metalguy |
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scotts valley, California | I've got a guy inGilroy making me a set of spinning gattlins but it's going to cost me $350. Guess I should have waited for Metalguy! |
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Litchfield Park, AZ | I'd be in on a set. Keep me in the loop. Thnx SP |
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SC, Bluffton | Metalguy, I love it.
Tell your Dad to take a digital picture, and post it here, or at least on the www.gl1800riders.com board.
Herb
Edited by g1nomad 2009-09-30 2:50 PM
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Iron Butt
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Rockford, IL | metalguy - 2009-09-27 8:57 PM If I were to make them, I would charge around $250 for a set. -------Metalguy I'm kinda interested in a set. Reason I say kinda is because I'm already running Gatlins. In order to truly decide I'd need to see a set of these in person. Gotta get that touchy-feely thing going on I guess. Considering that the Vic Gatlin tips are about $300 I think you are priced just about right. However if you can make them "spin"....well now we are talking a bit of a different ballgame. Or if you have them chromed or powder coated black....oh the options. |
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Tacoma, WA | Making them spin is not too hard...making the bearings last in a hot exhaust...problem. The exhaust is quite hot on these bikes. The stainless has gotten a bronze sheen to it from the heat...but that happens at over 400 degrees, anyway. I know the tailgunner tips cost a fortune...like $600. WAY too much. As for a pic of these on my Dad's GL1800, I will have to take it...he is a bit un-techy.-----Metalguy |
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Iron Butt
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North Orange County CA | metalguy - 2009-09-30 8:05 PM
Making them spin is not too hard...making the bearings last in a hot exhaust...problem. The exhaust is quite hot on these bikes. The stainless has gotten a bronze sheen to it from the heat...but that happens at over 400 degrees, anyway. I know the tailgunner tips cost a fortune...like $600. WAY too much. As for a pic of these on my Dad's GL1800, I will have to take it...he is a bit un-techy.-----Metalguy
ceramic bearings? |
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Tacoma, WA | I have no idea of where to aquire ceramic bearings...sounds spendy to me! |
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Iron Butt
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North Orange County CA | http://www.bocabearings.com/main1.aspx?p=docs&id=16
Heres a starting point I just googled "ceramic bearings". They look expensive but only when compared to bearings that will fail, so like Mr. Natural always said, "Use the right tool for the job". |
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Tacoma, WA | Yep. Just don't want to bother with spinning.-----Metalguy |
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Spinning "Tailgunner" pipes