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Posts: 69
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Posts: 3773 Pittsburgh, PA | do you have the Paperwork for your warranty.. i do on mine. when i read it i found out they want receipts for oil changes, along with the dates they were performed. |
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Posts: 301 Buffalo Grove,Ill | The Extended Warranty is in the dealerships computer. You do not need to keep receipts for everything. When i transfered my warranty from the previous owner they just typed my name in with the vin of the bike and it went to every vic dealer automatically. The warranty is locked in to the vin # of the bike so once it is on file at one it is at all. Just make sure its in, in the first place.
Oh and one more thing, my 7500 mile service that i did a month ago, which also included an oil change cost me 98 bucks total. (Yes at a dealer) |
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Posts: 3006 San Antonio, TX | A few months ago I received a letter stating that I could buy the extended warranty from Polaris.
"What!!!! I thought I bought the Five Year with the Vision last year!!!! Now that dealer is out of business!!!!"
I called the number from the letter up and talked to them. They gave me a number to check on my warranty. They confirmed that I did have a Five Year Warranty. "Yes!!! My old dealer did something!!! Wow!!!"
I do not have the number to post it for you to call. Sorry.
Ride Safe! |
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Posts: 125 Kerrville Texas ( now a homeowner on six acres) | I have 26,500 on my vision and have done the services Vic suggests when they were due and have never paid $300.00 for a service. I am traveling the country and have been in about 35 states so far and have done services in nine or ten dealers across the country.
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Posts: 3773 Pittsburgh, PA | right in the legal part of the warranty is SAYS to save the receipts.. this is if you do your OWN oil changes and other work.. dealer cant have receipts if your the one doing the work... Bottom line. READ the warranty.. |
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Posts: 208 Wichita, Kansas | I have the 5 yr warranty and just hit 7,500 miles. I called the dealer and was told there was no 7,500 mile inspection in the book, did I want to schedule a 10,000? I said no, bought the oil kit and did it myself. Gives me a lot of faith - know what I mean? |
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Posts: 3006 San Antonio, TX | KansasGuardsman,
7500 is an oil change plus many items need to be inspected and lubricated as necessarily.
I will look in the service manual and write back.
Replace
Oil
Oil Filter
Inspect (tighten, clean, adjust, correct or replace if necessary)
Air Filter
Drive Belt
Brake Fluid
Brakes Pads
Cable (Ends)
Clutch Fluid
Rear Shock Absorber
Sidestand Pad
Steering Bearings
Tires and Wheels
Lubricate with proper lubricant
Clutch and Brake Lever
Then Road Test the Vision.
This is the best part. I usually test it for 2500 miles and let the Dealer do the next service since it involves more stuff.
Check page 2.5 in the service manual that you can find at the link below.
http://www.mediafire.com/2008visioninfo
Edited by radioteacher 2009-07-16 7:38 AM
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Posts: 1484 LaPorte,Tx. | There is service according to the service manual every 2500 miles. You can see the service manual in the tech reference section in the forum section. There is inspection at every 2500 miles. |
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Posts: 1436
| If you buy your oil at the Vic dealer you won't need to keep the reciepts either as the oil purchase will be on their computer, just document the mileage and date in your owners manual. Oh and Lloyds says to follow Victory's ecommended oil change interval no matter what oil, so 2500 gets it done for me. (I do my own) |
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Posts: 562 SC, Bluffton | radioteacher - 2009-07-16 7:23 AM
Steering Bearings
Doesn't a lot of plastic need to be removed for the steering bearings? Or, do they just mean elevate the front end and check for play in the forks?
I just can't afford (justify) to pay the money anymore for the Dealership service. I am going to have to purchase the oil change kit. 2,500 is such a BIG EFFING joke. Had I know that in the beginning, it would have been a major factor. I wouldn't mind so much paying the dealership price if the intervals were 4,000 miles+.
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Posts: 8144 New Bohemia, VA | I guess I've always been fortunate in many ways and have to sometimes pay the price. I've got the extended warranty but don't see me using it. Also, there is a high mileage clause that you have to pay extra that I have not paid. So I think overall I wasted $600.00 which is usually my lot in life on extended warranties, they have never paid off for me.
As far as warranties and all that other stuff is really a bunch of bunk. So if I don't change my oil at 2,500 intervals, but it was more like 3,000 when I changed the oil and my crank busts, does that mean Vic won't warranty that?
I think there is a little amount legallity and responsibility mixed in there. It is tottally unreasonable to even assume that a crank (my example) or any other major motor failure to occur because of some slackness. I've not read my warranty as I've misplaced it and again, I don't intend to use it, as I'm an excessive rider. This was told to me on the phone by the dealer I bought my warranty through when I had 29,000 miles on the clock in less than a year. He told me then I should be paying extra since I had more than 10,000 on the clock at the time. But I asked him about the oil, what kind and often to change, and he told me that as warranties go, as long as you have oil in the crankcase you cannot be denied the claim, that's what he told me.
I think the intent is demonstrate some responsiblity and that can only be done by saving the receipts and gives some validity to your responsiblity to give the bike necessary attention to keep it in good working order. If the Vic is so susceptable to damage for not changing the oil every 2,500 miles, then they would be having problems all over the place.
There are plently out there like me, now with 3,000 on a vic filter and vic oil that is still gliding down the highway with no problems. May I admit to this now? On my trip to Texas I had over 2,500 miles on Vic oil and filter at the time of departure. I could not get the AMSOIL to change the oil and the dealer was already closed and would not be open before I departed. So I made the decision to change the filter and top off the oil with what I had and planned to change it on the road. Well, 3,600 miles later when I got back to the house is when I finally changed the oil again. Do the math, over 6,000 miles on Vic oil and only a filter change. The motor was sounding rather ratty when I got back to the house in comparison to a fresh oil change, but I have yet to find any ill effects at 48,000 on the clock from when it had 31,000 miles on it.
Now since I finally admitted to that I'm sure I'll be told I've hosed my motor and won't get past 50K or some crazy stuff like that.
So as far as my warranty goes, it may not be considered that I reasonably take care of the bike, and if something major messes up on it I'll probably won't be covered since I'm an excessive rider and an abuser. But, you know what, I'd jump on it tonight head to california, right after I changed the oil, without hesitation or second thought.
Heck, I wouldn't look to see where a dealer is along the as I wouldn't even think I would need one.
Edited by varyder 2009-07-16 1:43 PM
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Posts: 3006 San Antonio, TX | For the Steering Bearings it is just an inspection. There is a procedure on page 2.27 in the 2008 manual.
Elevate the front wheel
Turn handlebars from full left to full right and inspect
Point front wheel straight ahead, grasp fork tubes and pull/push fork tubes back and forth.
If steering does not feel right at steering stem, adjust or replace bearings as necessary.
Rotate front wheel. If roughness or unusual sounds are present, replace front wheel bearings.
Turn handle bars full right or left and hold against the fork stop. Attempt to move front wheel side-to-side. If movement is observed, inspect front axle, wheel, and bearings.
Then test ride the Vision! |
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Posts: 496 Scottsdale AZ | IMHO, I think the 2500 interval is bunk. 4-5 k is my schedule and I think it will be just fine. Other bikes over the years have had the same treatment and I had no more trouble than anyone that was on a strict lower interval schedule. I have even had the wrench guys agree.
That being said, it sure won't live up to the warranty requirements. I gambled on committing to purchase the Vision, with an early deposit, and I guess the extension of that is believing in the 4-5K intervals. I quit buying the extended warranty from any dealer years ago and so far I am pleased with that decision. Hopefully the mechanical gods will keep smiling on me.
Like Vary, I probably would have been out of luck anyway with excessive mileage. |
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Posts: 208 Wichita, Kansas | RadioTeacher,
I know about the services required at 7,500 have the owners and shop manuals, and did the other 7,500 services myself. My point was that my dealer's sevice department didn't know that there even WAS a 7,500 mile check or service and offered to do a 10,000 mile check for me at 7,500. If they don't even know how often services are required on the bikes they sell, how well trained can their mechanics be? How much experience on a machine do you have to have to know what the basic service interval is? |
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Posts: 8144 New Bohemia, VA | KansasGuardsman - 2009-07-17 12:55 PM
RadioTeacher,
I know about the services required at 7,500 have the owners and shop manuals, and did the other 7,500 services myself. My point was that my dealer's sevice department didn't know that there even WAS a 7,500 mile check or service and offered to do a 10,000 mile check for me at 7,500. If they don't even know how often services are required on the bikes they sell, how well trained can their mechanics be? How much experience on a machine do you have to have to know what the basic service interval is?
or the primary reason and one of the easiest to check that an engine will pop or back fire is an exhaust leak. But I was told all '08's do that.
Sorry to interject KG but your point to the interval trigger a beef I had on my bike that the dealer told me to live with it. I fixed it myself doing the basics of troubleshooting and have saved myself of further frustration and possibly an accident when the engine would shut off unexpectantly. |
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Posts: 3006 San Antonio, TX | KansasGuardsman,
Thanks for the post I am a little slow to get up to speed. You are right. There is not a good reason far a Victory dealer not knowing about the 7500 mile check. My first dealer was really bad but at least they knew when the bike needed to be serviced.
Ride Safe
Edited by radioteacher 2009-07-18 2:00 AM
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