Engine Oil for 2009 Vision
vbbuilt
Posted 2009-05-17 2:32 PM (#34824)
Subject: Engine Oil for 2009 Vision


Puddle Jumper

Posts: 38
I'm a newbie and got my new ride last Saturday (Premium Touring). It's only got 200 miles on it and still breaking in. I'm reviewing the owners manual and came across the section about how to check your oil. Followed the instructions and found out that oil level is below the "add" oil line. So, I'm concerned. I'm guessing that I need to add a quart?

The manual clearly states to "use only VICTORY brand Semi-synthetic 20w40 Motor Oil or equivalent oil for use with wet clutches such as JASO MA rating." The nearest victory dealer is 65 miles away, so I'm very reluctant to just jump in the car and drive all that way for a quart of oil.

I wanted to ride my bike today, but now very reluctant to do so. So, what substitutes are readily available? All the bike dealers in Northern VA are closed today. So can I buy any branded "equivalent" oil that other bikes use? I'm guessing that anything that conforms to JASO MA and is 20w40 will work?. I just went to Walmart and they have nothing with 20w40 viscosity.

Any help would be great!

Thanks , Vince.

Edited by vbbuilt 2009-05-17 2:35 PM
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Arkainzeye
Posted 2009-05-17 6:53 PM (#34830 - in reply to #34824)
Subject: Re: Engine Oil for 2009 Vision


Visionary

Posts: 3773
Pittsburgh, PA
if upi do a search on here you will find more than enough info on oil...


just look for the JASO MA rating on whatever oil you find..

Edited by Arkainzeye 2009-05-17 6:54 PM
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Member No. 1
Posted 2009-05-17 6:55 PM (#34831 - in reply to #34830)
Subject: Re: Engine Oil for 2009 Vision


Cruiser

Posts: 257
Under the Rule of Jedi - Masshole
Welcome! Congrats on your new bike.
And yes, please, not another oil thread!
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VaParadox
Posted 2009-05-17 7:48 PM (#34834 - in reply to #34824)
Subject: Re: Engine Oil for 2009 Vision


Iron Butt

Posts: 1158
Richmond, Virginia
Amsoil the best, order it by the case store in garage, never worry again.
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varyder
Posted 2009-05-17 9:55 PM (#34849 - in reply to #34834)
Subject: Re: Engine Oil for 2009 Vision


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA

Use Wesson Corn Oil for the time being. It ain't jaso or synthetic, but it is all natural.

Really, just use a motorcyle oil for the moment to get you to where you need to go, and then change it completly with what you are going to us and recommended by your dealer. Better yet, if you can wait, don't ride it, and I'll bring you a quart or a case later in the week, seriously. BUT WHATEVER YOU DO, DON'T START ANOTHER OIL THREAD.

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Arkainzeye
Posted 2009-05-18 5:22 AM (#34856 - in reply to #34824)
Subject: Re: Engine Oil for 2009 Vision


Visionary

Posts: 3773
Pittsburgh, PA
I use amsoil as well. i love it. smoother shifting etc. but if you want the safe bet. go with the rating on the oil .



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eagle
Posted 2009-05-18 9:04 PM (#34921 - in reply to #34824)
Subject: Re: Engine Oil for 2009 Vision


Cruiser

Posts: 115
Columbus, Ga
Question for those in the know. Is the oil in that first comes in the bike breakin oil or the regular vic 20-40 semi syn? I would also call my dealer and have them send a quart of oil for next day delivery as it should have already been in the bike.
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dr_reloader
Posted 2009-05-18 9:11 PM (#34923 - in reply to #34824)
Subject: Re: Engine Oil for 2009 Vision


Tourer

Posts: 537
, FL United States
Do what the chimp says... He has a gun...
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Big Vic
Posted 2009-05-24 7:48 AM (#35264 - in reply to #34824)
Subject: Re: Engine Oil for 2009 Vision


Iron Butt

Posts: 619
Southeast Iowa
Don't take this the wrong way but being new to the Vision make sure you are checking your oil the proper way before dumping more in. A new bike should not be 1 quart low. Make sure the bike is on a level surface and stood straight up. The dip stick must be screwed all the way in and then removed for the correct reading. Once again I'm not trying to insult you but some engines require that you don't screw it in.............
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Tarpits99
Posted 2009-05-24 11:01 AM (#35274 - in reply to #34824)
Subject: Re: Engine Oil for 2009 Vision


Iron Butt

Posts: 742
North Orange County CA
"Abandon hope all ye who enter here"

I cant vouch for its efficacy in a wet clutch motorcycle but Castor Bean oil smells the best!

Need any proof or want to argue about it, Costa Mesa Speedway - Harley Night May 30th OC Fair Grounds 6:00PM I'll be there!
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dr_reloader
Posted 2009-05-24 11:20 AM (#35276 - in reply to #34824)
Subject: Re: Engine Oil for 2009 Vision


Tourer

Posts: 537
, FL United States
Tarpits, have you forgotten about the smell of the by product of orange juice? Oil from a Orange? Not only can you have a house or "a bike" that smells like oranges but you have a product that will also degrease, lubricate, and strip the paint off of anything, (of course it is the amount of concentration that determines its usage)…
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kevinx
Posted 2009-05-24 3:50 PM (#35284 - in reply to #34834)
Subject: Re: Engine Oil for 2009 Vision


Visionary

Posts: 1340
Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators
VaParadox - 2009-05-17 7:48 PM

Amsoil the best, order it by the case store in garage, never worry again.


Would not put full synth oil in my bike under any circumstances, but what would I know. I have just been a professional mechanic all my adult life, and a Vic mechanic for half of their life.

Don't worry......This will be my last post on the subject
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varyder
Posted 2009-05-24 10:44 PM (#35305 - in reply to #35264)
Subject: Re: Engine Oil for 2009 Vision


Visionary

Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA

Big Vic - 2009-05-24 8:48 AMDon't take this the wrong way but being new to the Vision make sure you are checking your oil the proper way before dumping more in. A new bike should not be 1 quart low. Make sure the bike is on a level surface and stood straight up. The dip stick must be screwed all the way in and then removed for the correct reading. Once again I'm not trying to insult you but some engines require that you don't screw it in.............

What? Check my oil. It takes why too much time, it's easier to check it when I change it! It's one of those things that if it is low, it clacking, if it clacking, check to see how much you need to put in to get you home. Check to see where it is leaking and fix the leak. If it burning the oil, get thicker oil.

I've run this filosofee in all my vehicles. Change the oil regularly, and check for leaks. No leak, no usey oil. If smoking, go to a thicker oil and keep one or two in the vehicle.

Anyway, just take of your bikes and pay no attention to the man from Virginia (I'm referring to Paradox, not me....)



Edited by varyder 2009-05-24 10:49 PM
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Arkainzeye
Posted 2009-05-25 7:25 AM (#35326 - in reply to #34824)
Subject: Re: Engine Oil for 2009 Vision


Visionary

Posts: 3773
Pittsburgh, PA
so far on the last few oil changes ive done on my 08 vision i have never had to add oil yet. unlike my kawasaki where i had to add all the time!
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Tarpits99
Posted 2009-05-25 8:48 AM (#35330 - in reply to #35276)
Subject: Re: Engine Oil for 2009 Vision


Iron Butt

Posts: 742
North Orange County CA
dr_reloader - 2009-05-24 8:20 AM

Tarpits, have you forgotten about the smell of the by product of orange juice? Oil from a Orange? Not only can you have a house or "a bike" that smells like oranges but you have a product that will also degrease, lubricate, and strip the paint off of anything, (of course it is the amount of concentration that determines its usage)…


Ok I've had a few days to think about this and I have concluded that the "orange oil phenomenon" is simply great marketing by the Florida Orange Juice Lobby. I'm sure if i dig deep enough i'll find Anita Bryant fingerprints somewhere.

You guys in the "Sunshine State" have a lot of what can only be termed industrial waste laying around looking for a new home. Cant send it to Louisiana post-Katrina since all the holding ponds are gone. You have a water table six inches below the surface and more people (mostly older "yankees") moving into the state every day. You can only sell so much to Bed Bath and Beyond before the girls get tired of it and want "springtime cotton" or some Asian inspired aromatherapy.Something has to give.

Solution "Orange OIL! It can do anything!"

I can see the meeting now!

"Great idea Herb w'ell get the Kaboom Guy to sell it on TV!"

"Yeah then we'll tell people that it's an "Environmentally Safe Termite Control" and a great furniture polish; why, You can even wash your hands in it!"

"We're gonna crush those damn lemon growers!"

"Hey Herb do you think we can find a doctor who'll tell folks it a cure for E.D or a great weight loss program or something?"

"Yeah there's an institute right down the road that will say anything for a "consideration" I forget the name, but Perkins will get handle that."

So while I applaud the marketing, I guess what i'm saying is that there are only so many sources of orange odor I'm willing to put up with. If my motorcycle starts to smell just like my breakfast drink, my granddaughters babysitter, my furniture polish, my hand cleaner, my termite treatment and my floor polish then I'm going to have to find another mode of transportation.

I'll stick with the beans thank you.

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dr_reloader
Posted 2009-05-26 7:25 PM (#35422 - in reply to #34824)
Subject: Re: Engine Oil for 2009 Vision


Tourer

Posts: 537
, FL United States
At about $2,500 a 55 gallon barrel (going rate last year) plus shipping to over seas it is some kind of marketing strategy that is being used. I tell you I am in the wrong business. I should have squeezed oranges for a living.
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Blue Sky Guy
Posted 2009-05-27 3:34 PM (#35496 - in reply to #35276)
Subject: Re: Engine Oil for 2009 Vision


Tourer

Posts: 329
scotts valley, California
Hmmm...... boutique designer lube oil.
How about vanella bean oil with a dash of orange oil?
Maybe a trace of cinimin oil?
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dr_reloader
Posted 2009-05-27 5:21 PM (#35502 - in reply to #34824)
Subject: Re: Engine Oil for 2009 Vision


Tourer

Posts: 537
, FL United States
You might be on to something there...
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