|
|
New user
Posts: 1
| I have a new victory vision street, and i need to know what tire pressure is the best for a smooth ride with one or more passengers onboard? Also, what does the shock pressure need to be on with 1 and then 2 passengers for a really smooth and safe ride so it will corner also. Last question; what can the owner do with a loud whinning noise in 6th gear |
|
| |
|
Visionary
Posts: 3773
Pittsburgh, PA | tire pressure on my tourer to decrease the risk of tire cupping i do 40/40 as far as rear shock air pressure im not sure. but i thought there was a chart either in the owners manual or in the left bag.? |
|
| |
|
Visionary
Posts: 3773
Pittsburgh, PA | as far as gear noise any many miles is on your vision.. alot have said that amsoil motorcycle oil has made their tranys shift smoother. i dont think i have the noise, but i wouldnt know as i ALWAYS have my radio on!! lol |
|
| |
|
Visionary
Posts: 1436
| 40/40 on tire pressure and the shock pressure varies depending upon weight. I run 30-35 lbs in the shock ALL the time and regardless of single double or loaded riding. I weigh about 200 and my Mrs about 125. I always have two saddlebags full and the trunk half full so adjust accordingly. There is a psi to load label inside the door near the fill port and it is pretty good give or take 5 psi. Make sure you use a hand pump on the shock and not a pressuized air source.
As to the gear noise?? Run Amsoil or another premium synthetic regularly and it will go away around 10k miles. |
|
| |
|
Visionary
Posts: 3006
San Antonio, TX | After I bought my Vision, I was concerned about the "Gear Noise" and I could not wait to get to 5th gear to make it shut up.
Then I started thinking about what I am hearing and why am I hearing it.
The closest thing I can relate to riding a Vision is driving a convertible with the top down.
The fairing blocks so much wind that raising the windshield can cause back pressure on your upper body. You hear the engine and gear noise because you can. When going 45 mph in 4th gear your head and ears are in a pocket of still air and you can hear every noise the engine makes.
Plus the engine noise comes up the triple tree area right to your head. That area has the metal of the gas tanks to channel and reflect the noise straight up.
Unlike almost every other bike on the planet, there is no fuel tank in the way of the noise. The fuel tank on other bikes diverts the noise to the sides of the bike not up and the wind blows it away.
Guys and gals here can tell you that the drive train is solid. Some members here have over 36,000 miles on their Visions and have never had a running gear come flying out the side of the engine.
As far as Victory goes...Roadkill has 200,000 miles on his 99 Victory and Lonestar has 100,000 miles on his.
After over 8000 miles on my Vision I will tell you that the bike is quieter now then when I bought it. I have used Victory Oil and Amsoil. I prefer the shifting and little less noise I get from Amsoil. To each his own on that topic.
Ride Safe!
Edited by radioteacher 2009-04-06 10:32 PM
|
|
| |
|
Visionary
Posts: 3006
San Antonio, TX | Duplicate Post
Edited by radioteacher 2009-04-06 10:30 PM
|
|
| |
|
Visionary
Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA | got 38k on mine and it runs quiet enough to hear the rumbles of the stock pipes. how sweet it is.... |
|
| |
|
Tourer
Posts: 394
Tucson, AZ | Here's my experience. The tranny noise bothered me as well. My Vision now has 4300 miles and I put Redline oil in at the last change. Much quieter now. I think the miles made more difference with the noise than the oil, but the Redline makes shifting smoother. My dealer told me to keep 40 lbs of pressure in the suspension. Seems to work well. Tire pressure, I run 42 front and 40 in the rear. Works for me. I'm no wrench, but have been riding for 22 years and trial and error has taught me a lot. |
|
| |
|
Visionary
Posts: 1340
Gainesville Fl Home of the Gators | Not being an engineer like many here seem to be I recomend that you stay with the oil specificaly BLENDED for your bike. The noise comes form the gear shapes chosen by Victory, and though they are VERY strong; there is a comprimise of noise. The good news is that they will break in over time, and become less noisy |
|
| |
|
Visionary
Posts: 3773
Pittsburgh, PA | hey Gray Rider, i dont have the gear noise that you do. but i understand what your talking about when it comes to the oil.. i went to amsoil for my last few oil changes. But then i couldnt find any, so i went with the victory oil change kit.. i forgot i changed the oil in Dec with vic oil. wel this march i get the bike out to ride it and i thought, Omg whats wrong with this thing.. shifting got very notchy... i thought i damaged something! so i started to get worried and thought crap now i have to call my dealer.. then all the sudden it hit me.. Oh!!! im using different oil than i am used too.. needless to say, amsoil motorcycle oil is going right back in as soon as i get some more miles on this thing.. i already have 1800 miles this spring on the vic oil. so a little more and Back the amsoil goes.. amsoil made my trany shift like butter! where as the vic 20w40 semi synth oil reminded me of a bucket full of rock with a stick in the middle moving around.. lol |
|
| |
|
Visionary
Posts: 1436
| KevinX, Lloyds doesn't have a problem with Amsoil and federal law says the Victory warranty has to cover the bike no matter what BLEND was preferred by the manufacturer to place their label on. I've discovered over the years oil brand to bike riders is as sacred as religion and politics, lol.... so run whatever you like is my position. Oh and the only problem I had with the Vic oil was the frequency of NEEDED change. Victory says 2500 but the bike was telling me 1200-1500. |
|
| |
|
Visionary
Posts: 1290
Ruskin, Fl | The manual says Recommended Engine Oil
If Victory 20W/40 is not available, use motorcycle oil suitable
for wet clutches (such as those with JASO MA rating).
DO NOT use additives of any kind.
Mine was much smoother with full synthetic.
|
|
| |
|
Visionary
Posts: 8144
New Bohemia, VA | Not that there is no merit or credence to running a specific oil as outlined by the manufacturer, I think time has proven that as long as it is a proper oil all is well. From a professional wrench stand-point there is some validation to the claims that if you run X-brand then you'll end of with X problem and X problem. However, I've never seen documented proof to this claim, only from a creditable wrench stand-point. If we were at risk to run a specific oil in our engines it would not say recommend, but would say must run our oil or all bets are off. I've not seen anything to that claim in recent memory. On that some token when we find our loyal brand, it will always run better than anything else. I'll stand and say that my Vic seems to run better, shift better and is quieter when I run XOil full synthetic (ommitting actual name) then when I run Vic 50/50 blend. I've actually changed between the two having had many changes thus far. My assessment is that I can run to 3,500K between changes with the full synthectic before any clatter chatter starts to being noticable, as well as stiffer shifting compared to 2,500k on the Vic oil and reaching the same symptoms. Personnally, for me I have validated that claim on my behalf alone. I might ride somewhat agressive at times, but for the most part, nothing I do is abusive IMHO. And again, it is my perception, I tried to compare every little thing to a previous experience. One thing that I have truly noticed was around 25,000 miles this bike actually started to sound like a real motorcycle. Prior to that there seemed to be a sewing machine sound, but now it is real mellow and throaty sounding when started. I'm looking forward as I rack up the miles and hope at the time my stock exhaust goes out I'll be ready to swing for S1L1 and a lloyd cam set-up. Anyway, that is my two cents on oil and noises and hope folks ride enough to know what is best. If your favorite wrench says do X, then do it. Mine has left that up to me as they've not seen any significant difference and take the stance of "It's your bike." There main motovation for me to by Vic Oil is that they'll have written record in the system when I bought oil, and since I do it on my own, they can stand with me if something goes bonkers. So since I don't by Vic Oil and I do it myself, I'll buy the filter, so that falls inline with them keeping records and will stand with me on issues if something blows. |
|
| |
|
Cruiser
Posts: 125
Kerrville Texas ( now a homeowner on six acres) | All,
My solution to the "noise" is to:
1.Put on whatever riding gear you wear.
2.Hit the road
3.clear the mind of all negatives.
4.crank up the speed for the conditions in which you are riding.
5. Look at the GREAT COUNTRY you are Priviledged to ride through.
6. hope to goodness you continue to hear some noise cuz if you dont,THEN you are in trouble!!
SMADGE |
|
| |
|
Cruiser
Posts: 79
Austin, Texas | Amsoil. Much quieter and the shifting is easier than with Victory oil. |
|
| |
|
Tourer
Posts: 354
20 miles west of Chicago. | Subscribe to whatever religion you want, vote for whichever candidate you want, drink whatever whiskey you favor, ride whatever bike you like, and put whatever kind of oil in it you think is best.
God will love you and I will respect you. But for the love of God, no more oil threads! If you can't make up your mind, mix 2 or 3 or 4 different kinds, but no more oil threads!
Edited by Mudge 2009-05-04 4:52 PM
|
|
| |
|
Tourer
Posts: 404
San Antonio, TX United States | In reply to Mudge's comment i will use the words of the great Gabby Johnson, (Blazing Saddles Reference)
Reverend!!!!!
By the way, if your rides starts to feel squirrly and like your on marbles, take the tire pressure down from that 40 and 42 back to the suggested 38 PSI. I put 11K miles on my first tire. Just down to 3/32. I am sure i would have had close to 14K of 15K if not for a burnout i did earlier in the year for a promo video at our store. |
|
| |
Tire Pressure and Gear Noise