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Cruiser
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| I don't have abandonment issues. Anybody else? My '10 8 Ball just got valuable or worthless, I'm not sure. I bought a new Norton 850 Commando back in '74, and a year later they went tits. Anybody mad at any companies? Perhaps I could pick up one of their products. That should take'em out...You're welcome. | |
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Cruiser
Posts: 106
| Read up on Polaris and you'll see the Victory brand results strictly from one of the owners not being able to buy a Harley because of the waiting list. Two sons, two daughters, all flinty eyed accountants, hired the peeps capable of producing the bikes. It is no surprise then, that the cessation of production was a quick and easy business decision. Besides, you own Victory, and Indian...Where would YOU put your R & D dollars? RIP Vicky! | |
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Tourer
Posts: 548
Mount Vernon, WA United States | Genuinely my first thought was that either used Victories with low mileage will be easy buys, or they will become rare and expensive. For the 1st time since selling it, I wish I still had my '02 Cruiser. I had hoped the Vision would adopt some of the gizmo-tech of the Indian, that's not going to happen... but, maybe I can now get a Vision cheap enough to add the gizmos myself.
Frankly I am happy they are making a good "business" decision. I don't think anyone is getting layed off, they are helping dealers (supposedly), they are supporting their product that's out there.... better than waiting 2 or 3 years and running themselves into the ground. They were never going to catch Harley, that was never their goal. They created a great alternative that many of us have enjoyed and will continue to enjoy for years to come, and at some level, it paved the way to bring back Indian.
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Visionary
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New Bohemia, VA | If the truth be told, Victory moved the industry to making more comfortable and reliable machines. I believe before the Vision, motorcycle riders believed it was suppose to hurt to ride. | |
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Visionary
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Jasper, MO | varyder - 2017-01-12 6:49 AM
If the truth be told, Victory moved the industry to making more comfortable and reliable machines. I believe before the Vision, motorcycle riders believed it was suppose to hurt to ride.
After 51 years of riding, the last 8 on a Vision, I would have to agree with that statement.
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Visionary
Posts: 3773
Pittsburgh, PA | I just went on cycle trader for my area that I live they're selling victory octane's for $7,500... Brand New Vegas 8-Ball $9,900 if I was a person trying to sell my used Victory right now I'll be pissed.... there's used ones on there going for the same price | |
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Tourer
Posts: 366
Albuquerque, NM | This Magnum seller is going to be disappointed. Asking $33K?
www.ebay.com/item/282320672188
Edited by nailer 2017-01-15 2:22 PM
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Cruiser
Posts: 106
| So I tweeted Trump and he said he'd get right on it, build a wall around Spirit Lake, not let anyone out until Victory overtook Harley in market share and public popularity. He was also going to make Indian pay for the wall. And build a casino with the profits. | |
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Iron Butt
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Central New York | Too bad! The Vision is a truely remarkable machine. Granted that it was a niche machine, but it stood alone in that niche. One can only hope that Polaris has the wisdom to move the Vision tooling to Indian and produse limited editions of an 'Indian Vision', or perhap a 'Vision Quest'. | |
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New user
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| I really like the Vision. I have test ridden a couple of Visions and I like the looks, the engine, and the comfort. I don't own one, but I was in the market and actively looking until the announcement to cease production. Now I'm taking a step back. Even though there are some good deals to be had, I have to wonder about support in the future. While Polaris has to make parts available for the next ten years, I'm thinking those parts are going to get hard to find and expensive. I also think that the aftermarket companies are eventually going to quit making parts for Victorys.
I am still in the market for a touring bike. I think the Slingshot will not be around long (I could be wrong) and the Indians are way too expensive for me. Plus, I'm not sure I want to deal with Polaris. After all, they did promise that Victory was here to stay. I am not a "Harley guy", although they do make good motorcycles. I'm just not into the shake, rattle and roll and they cost a small fortune to have serviced. So, I'm now looking at Goldwings. While they are not as comfortable as the Vision, they can be made tolerable for a long ride, the pillion is very comfortable, and they have been around for many years. Parts are readily available and dealerships are everywhere.
I am disappointed with the decision to terminate Victory, but life goes on. Maybe if I find a Vision for the right price I'll own one. You just never know! | |
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Visionary
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Jasper, MO | handyman - 2017-02-24 3:12 PM
I really like the Vision. I have test ridden a couple of Visions and I like the looks, the engine, and the comfort. I don't own one, but I was in the market and actively looking until the announcement to cease production. Now I'm taking a step back. Even though there are some good deals to be had, I have to wonder about support in the future. While Polaris has to make parts available for the next ten years, I'm thinking those parts are going to get hard to find and expensive. I also think that the aftermarket companies are eventually going to quit making parts for Victorys.
I am still in the market for a touring bike. I think the Slingshot will not be around long (I could be wrong) and the Indians are way too expensive for me. Plus, I'm not sure I want to deal with Polaris. After all, they did promise that Victory was here to stay. I am not a "Harley guy", although they do make good motorcycles. I'm just not into the shake, rattle and roll and they cost a small fortune to have serviced. So, I'm now looking at Goldwings. While they are not as comfortable as the Vision, they can be made tolerable for a long ride, the pillion is very comfortable, and they have been around for many years. Parts are readily available and dealerships are everywhere.
I am disappointed with the decision to terminate Victory, but life goes on. Maybe if I find a Vision for the right price I'll own one. You just never know!
I've owned Goldwings and have owned a Vision since 2008. The Goldwing is a great bike, but not as comfortable as a Vision on the long haul. My Vision has proven to be as reliable as a Honda.
I'm not worried about the future and parts availability.
For one thing, my Victorys ( I also have a 2000 SC I bought new) just haven't needed any parts other than normal wear items. Those are generic and easily available.
The other thing is my perspective that comes from having other hobbies that include MG sports cars and antique Minneapolis Moline farm tractors. MG hasn't been made since 1980, the company that made them is long gone, but there is a strong aftermarket supporting them. Pretty much anything you would need is easily available. Minneapolis Moline ceased production in 1974, but pretty much anything you need to rebuild or restore one of them is available from a wide variety of sources. I recently rebuilt a 1949 model and the needed parts were readily available at NAPA. That particular model has not been made since 1954, but engine overhaul parts are available at NAPA.
I'm not worried about keeping my Victorys running. Normal wear items like batteries, tires, belts, bearings, relays, brake pads, etc are already generic. Much of the Vision stuff is generic to a Goldwing.
Ronnie
Edited by rdbudd 2017-02-25 9:52 AM
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Puddle Jumper
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Cheyenne, WY United States | I jonesd for a Vision when I saw the first one advertised. EVERYBODY had a Harley or a Harley lookalike but here was something with a new look. In 2013 We went to the local dealer in N. Alabama to "have a look around". Wife sat on the XC and the Vision I test rode the Vision and the rest is history. Should have seen it coming when they hadn't changed ANYTHING of note on the Vision for it's entire tenure. IF they had wanted to "boost sales" one little thing would have been to increase the storage (AKA add XC "bags"). But they bought the Indian name (another Harley lookalike with "different fenders") and one could read the writing on the wall. I've ridden a buttload of brands over the years and the Vision has proven to be aces. If Polaris thinks Indian will "beat Harley" they have another think coming. Polaris has no soul or passion (as alluded to in another post) and thus cannot compete regardless of name. I would buy another Victory cruiser but don't have room or cash for it. Good business decision my ass. They could've taken Victory in many directions but Indian....not so much. Just the same I damn sure feel abandoned but what can you expect from friggin soulless, beady-eyed bean counters? 
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Tourer
Posts: 400
| Polaris is not a motorcycle company. They pretend to be, just like S.M. pretends to be a rider and understand motorcyclist. That is why Victory and Indian may both fail. If you don't know your customer, if you don't want to know you customer, if you try and tell the customer what they want, you will fail, if you simply refuse to meet your customers "wants" and "needs" you will fail. Also, don't be surprised if you see 3-5 Victory models released as Indians within the next 1.5 years. That is coming from a larger dealer that has been around since 1999. This dealer asked their regional rep if Indian could survive with only the classic look. The rep said no. The dealer asked about the Victory line showing up in Indian, the rep said that would be a very safe assumption. | |
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Visionary
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Pittsburgh, PA | I was going to buy a 3 victory ,one for just cruising around town ... but I'm now not going to due to some of the stuff I have already started to read.. I didn't expect it to start this soon...I've read where people are already having issues getting parts.. fuel filters for one.. on back order and been waiting since October... before the announcement ..... I know polaris said they would have parts for year years...but that doesn't mean you will get them quickly .... | |
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Visionary
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Jasper, MO | Arkainzeye - 2017-02-26 8:26 AM
I was going to buy a 3 victory ,one for just cruising around town ... but I'm now not going to due to some of the stuff I have already started to read.. I didn't expect it to start this soon...I've read where people are already having issues getting parts.. fuel filters for one.. on back order and been waiting since October... before the announcement ..... I know polaris said they would have parts for year years...but that doesn't mean you will get them quickly ....
Fuel filters? Seriously? Why would somebody even bother with going through Polaris/Victory for something so generic? I never have. In 17 years of riding Victorys, I have used the dealer as a source of parts very, very little. No need to start now.
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