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Tavares, Fl | The factory recently agreed to replace my gas tank. As you know the tank is in a horseshoe shape around the front fork creating a tunnel that I believe directs the noise from the engine up to the drivers area... I talked to the dealer and when I get back to Florida I plan on picking up the gas tank and spraying the inner area of the tank around the forks with some type of sound deadening spray, possibly a type of undercoating before its installed. My only concern is that the heat from the engine will melt the coating and I'll end up with a mess. Anyone have an idea as to what would work and if you think it'll help solve the problem?
I know I could take the mufflers out and drown out the noise but my idea of a nice ride is cruising down the road listening to the local smooth jazz station, which I eventually hope to do.... |
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Iron Butt
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New York State | You could ask the dealer to install a set of pedals and not run the engine |
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San Antonio, TX | rlreed,
I have also considered coating that area of the fuel cells. I wish I could advise you. If you get it done let us know what you think of the changes.
Ride Safe |
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west bend, wi | I don't think it will help but I think you might have the best luck with a glue on material designed for inboard engines on boats. It has high heat resitence and is a foam like material that should provide about as much sound damping as can be expected. A search on the web or visit your local marine repair shop and you should be able to determine if it might fill the bill...... |
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Northeastern Penna. | I personally don't think the (engine noise ?) is really a concern, if you will. How many agree with me? |
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O'Neill, Nebraska | Engine noise? You guys obviously never heard my Vic Jackpot. My ears are still ringing.
Seriously though....this bike is VERY quiet unless we are comparing it to a Goldwing. |
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Savannah, GA -Year round riding!! Yay! | Ya know, I used to notice engine noise when I first got my bike. Now, it was one year ago last week and 12,000+ miles, that I took possession of her. I'm not sure if it's me or if it's her, but I don't notice the engine noise nearly as much as I first did! One a related note, my riding buddies always like to show off their exhausts whenever posible. (my hubby has the 2 into1 SideBurner on his VTX and another buddies has the Screaming Eagle set up on his Dyna Wide Glide). Last weeke, we all participated in a Toy Run and were sitting in the staging area, waiting to pull out. They were all hitting their throttles and revving to play the "King of the Hill" games. I simply found some AC/DC on my mp3 player, turned the stereo up to about 22 and drowned them all out. (They could hear my stereo halfway across the parking lot, I later found out). I like to tell them, "Which loud accessory is generally more useful?" hehe
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LONDONDERRY NH | How about some spray on bedliner like Rhino? |
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| Noise !!! I live in Northern Ontario Canada, there is 2 feet of snow here and it's going down to 25 below tonight. And that's celcius. I'm stuck driving in a cage over ice and snow and I'll be lucky to be able to ride again come April. I'd give anything right now to hear that beautiful noise you guys are talking about. That's not noise that's the sound of two wheels being hauled down the highway by 106 cubic inches (devided in two) of sheer beauty and it sounds like music. It lets you know it's alive. If I didn't like it I would have bought one of those other touring bikes that doesn't even sound like a motorcycle.
Now that's just my opinion but it has been tempered by about 40 years of listening to the sweet sound of everything from 2 stroke singles to 4 stroke 4s coming up between my legs.
Now you all have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New year eh! 
Edited by Nepper 2008-12-17 9:51 PM
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So Cal | How about something like Dynamat? They use it for insulation and sound deadening on hotrods. |
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| I think the noise is being directed upward to your ears by the opening for the forks. It seems like a perfect "canyon" for sound. I don't see the relation between engine noise and fuel tank sound deadening? If your thought is for the material you apply to the fuel tank to absorb the sounds, I would tend to believe you would need sound absorbing material not sound deadening material?
example: you apply bedliner to your truck bed and it becomes quieter because it's lessens the ability of the bed to flex causing noise. You install cone shaped foam to a sound room to absorb unwanted sound. |
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, FL United States | IMHO, unless you install sound DEADENING (absorbing) material you will actually INCREASE the noise level projected up to you through the "tunnel". |
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Tavares, Fl | Good points, I think I'll go with a coating of Rhino lining and see what happens. Some guys like it loud, I like it soft. One complaint of loud pipes. During the winter I stay in an RV park in Central Fl. Ninety percent of the people there are well over 70 years old, I venture at nearly 60 I'm one of the youngest there. Some are bike riders, Gold Wings mostly. Well this year we have this jerkoff with a manhood problem with noneother than a Harley with loud pipes move in. Every morning and every night here he comes. You can hear him across the park cracking the pipes and when he leaves the park and hits the road you can hear him for a mile. The park is out in the country so there is no one for him to show off for except a bunch of elderly people who are getting pissed. He'll be thrown out shortly I'm sure when the majority of the people come in after Christmas. The problem is I'm sure the park is going to adopt some new rules concerning bikes that will effect the rest of us who despise him also.... |
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| would be nice if Victory, or any part company would make a insert that would go down into the opening and black it all. Like a foam or rubber cut to size u can slide intot eh openeing and fasten in to stay. that would black a lot of noise and air running up the opening. |
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New York State | jeffmack - 2008-12-18 11:16 AM
would be nice if Victory, or any part company would make a insert that would go down into the opening and black it all. Like a foam or rubber cut to size u can slide intot eh openeing and fasten in to stay. that would black a lot of noise and air running up the opening.
Its a Motorcycle your supposed to be in the wind.
Get a Car they lock the engine in a compartment to quell the noise |
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Iron Butt
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Richmond, Virginia | Ok, now ive read the most stupid thing of the week. So can I pose my "a__h--le, opinion? ITS A FRIGGEN MOTORCYCLE!
Noise especially engine noise is part of the package. The Vision is not a Lexus with its "vault like quietness". The tunnel is there
for an engineering reason. If you had wanted to hear nothing but your stereo, you should have bought a luxury car, or a zzzzzz
Goldwing. The Vision has gotta be one of the quietest touring bikes out on the road. If that is too loud to you, then perhaps
its not the bike that is the issue. Try some ear plugs or a better fitting helmet that blocks noise. Next you will be wanting
to put a roof on it and two more wheels............ ring ring.... its the Reality phone,,,,, you better get it !!
(its also worth nothing that out of the thousands who own these bikes less then 2% of its owners complain about noise) 95% complement
its quietness, 3% dont give a rip.... |
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Buford, GA United States | Don't like them loud either but I have to agree with VaPox as I don't know how you can get less sound out of a big bike, maybe turn your stereo down but of course VaPox has stuffed "polished" coal in his bike which may make it quieter... |
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| Trekwolf164 - 2008-12-18 11:19 AM
jeffmack - 2008-12-18 11:16 AM
would be nice if Victory, or any part company would make a insert that would go down into the opening and black it all. Like a foam or rubber cut to size u can slide intot eh openeing and fasten in to stay. that would black a lot of noise and air running up the opening.
Its a Motorcycle your supposed to be in the wind.
Get a Car they lock the engine in a compartment to quell the noise
dont be a tool......we simply would like to eliminate the megaphone of a fork opening on the bike. If you dont want to do this move on to your next thread |
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Iron Butt
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New York State | jeffmack - 2008-12-20 9:23 AM
Trekwolf164 - 2008-12-18 11:19 AM
jeffmack - 2008-12-18 11:16 AM
would be nice if Victory, or any part company would make a insert that would go down into the opening and black it all. Like a foam or rubber cut to size u can slide intot eh openeing and fasten in to stay. that would black a lot of noise and air running up the opening.
Its a Motorcycle your supposed to be in the wind.
Get a Car they lock the engine in a compartment to quell the noise
dont be a tool......we simply would like to eliminate the megaphone of a fork opening on the bike. If you dont want to do this move on to your next thread
Pardon me do you have any Gray Pupon ? |
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Linwood, MI | I really don't understand y'all that come in these threads and jump on people that want to do different things with their bikes. Do y'all think that your way is the only way and everyone else needs to quit being idiots and do it you way?? The man wants to quiet the tunnel noise and is looking for options. This is called innovation. Look it up some time, you might learn something. Creativity like this is how some of the great innovations that y'all enjoy on your motorcycle came about.
Where would we be if Mr. Song and the other Vision engineers had listened to some of you?? I can just see it now:
Engineer 1: You know what would be cool? If you could adjust the windshield on the fly to cut down the wind as you got out on the highway.
Trekwolf: It's a motorcycle, you moron. You're suppsed to be out in the wind. If you don't like the wind and want electric windows, buy a car. Idiot.
Engineer 1: Gosh, I guess that is stupid. You're right, we shouldn't even have a windshield.
Engineer 2: Hey, I have this great idea: we can put these little canard-things on each side to protect the bike and rider if it falls over or he loses control making a turn. I call them Tip-over-protection.
VaPox: Are you crazy?? You can't put those things on this work of art. You'll ruin it! Are you some kind of stupid idiot?? IT'S A FRIGGEN MOTORCYCLE. If you want safety wear a big padded suit, or drive a truck with is't big o bumper to protect you. Dummy.
Engineer 2: Sheesh, I guess I see what you mean. Sorry I brought it up.
Engineer 3: I have a great idea. *looks at Tekwolk and VaPox glaring at him* Nevermind...
Mr. Song: ok, that's it, I suppose. Looks like we just make a Harley knock-off and call it a day. Thanks for your input, gentlemen.
If someone is modifying their bike some how and you have some constructive ideas, then by all means jump in. But if all you're going to do is come in and slam them and ridicule them for what they are trying to do, then do us all a favor and just STFU. |
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New York State | They make electric scooters they have windshields and run very quiet |
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| keeping the paint intact...except once you spray it on you can't see the paint. 
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seattle, wa | Very well said Rebel. |
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Richmond, Virginia | very well said, but missing a portion of OUR sides point. There are motorcycle owners who really want a car, and their only comparison they have IS a car. There is a base of reason that goes along with being a motorcyclist. Our point was that taking one of the current quietest motorcycles on the road today, and needing it quieter is not what motorcycle manufacturers are putting as a high priority because THEY already understand that many many motorcyclists desire that noise. Look at the topics and threads here as an example, how many of you guys will buy a quiet vision only to want to put stage 1 pipes on merely for increased sound levels? How many people write on here that they want to alter the bike to make it quieter. Rebel makes good points and is correct on many levels as it pertains to the aspects/desires of motorcycle design, however what was not represented
was the opposing opinion, which is where a few of us chimed in. Bottom line,, arent we all lucky that we have choices, and the ability to express them and no one gets pissy. |
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New York State | I did not realize that a little kidding would get a Bikers panties in a bunch |
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Richmond, Virginia | Trek, i think sometimes its reading into text communications I know I write and am perceived more strongly than my intent.
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Linwood, MI | @ TekWolf: I've re-read your posts at least 3 times and I see no indication that you were just posting "a little kidding." Everything you said came off snarky, insulting and condescending. If you're only joking or teasing, then next time you should think about putting something in there to indicate that, like a wink ( ) or a "just kidding you, man" or something.
@VaParadox: First off, Reed wasn't asking for opinions on whether or not it was too loud; he was looking for ideas about quieting the engine (not exhaust) noise. Therefor, your "opposing opinion" was neither requested nor desired by the original thread poster. Secondly, just because that's how the manufacturer made it doesn't really mean squat. Just ask any biker who has ever made the slightest little modification. Once you buy the bike you're free to change it however you want to suit your tastes. Or not. Your decision. Finally, "...arent we all lucky that we have choices, and the ability to express them and no one gets pissy[?]" You should heed your own words. More than once you have chastised others for making changes to their bike, yet yours isn't all stock, is it? In your own words your bike is "all chromed out." I personally think that chrome is a waste of money and time (to keep it clean and looking good), but I don't come and rain all over your parade, do I? So take your own advice and don't get "all pissy" with others here that are trying to make their bikes to be exactly what they want them to be.
@ rlreed: I am very sorry for hijacking your thread with all this stuff and will now cease and desist.
I don't really find the tunnel noise to be disturbing, but that could just be because I've gotten used to it. I would like hear about any solutions you come up with, though. And who knows, maybe Victory would like to hear, too  . The only think I would caution you about, though, is to pick something that is somewhat aesthetically appealing to you. I don't know about you, but I often see the tunnel when I look down or even in my periperal vision and I think something really ugly or gaudy in there might be a distraction.
Edited by Rebel 2008-12-20 4:13 PM
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New York State | Jeesh what a grouch |
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Tavares, Fl | Man, you can tell some of these guys are ex Harley riders............. |
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New York State | rlreed - 2008-12-20 7:48 PM
Man, you can tell some of these guys are ex Harley riders.............
Oh you used to have a hog |
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Dale, Indiana | Trekwolf164 - 2008-12-20 10:10 AM
They make electric scooters they have windshields and run very quiet
Don't forget Pink would be the more appropriate color.
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MN. | Nepper - 2008-12-17 8:48 PM
Noise !!! I live in Northern Ontario Canada, there is 2 feet of snow here and it's going down to 25 below tonight. And that's celcius. I'm stuck driving in a cage over ice and snow and I'll be lucky to be able to ride again come April. I'd give anything right now to hear that beautiful noise you guys are talking about. That's not noise that's the sound of two wheels being hauled down the highway by 106 cubic inches (devided in two) of sheer beauty and it sounds like music. It lets you know it's alive. If I didn't like it I would have bought one of those other touring bikes that doesn't even sound like a motorcycle.
Now that's just my opinion but it has been tempered by about 40 years of listening to the sweet sound of everything from 2 stroke singles to 4 stroke 4s coming up between my legs.
Now you all have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New year eh!
Gotta go with Nepper on this! I'm in Minnesota, and after yesterdays blizzard, now have to go outside in -11 degrees to shovel! All the while staring longingly at my bike, in the garage, hooked up to its battery tender!
And ditto on the Merry Christmas and Happy New year wishes!
Edited by BATMAN 2008-12-21 7:41 AM
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| Hey guys and gals sorry I didnt chime in earlier on this post but here in Az we are still riding. Took in a great Christmas light ride last night 80 miles thru the city on motorcycles looking at lights on homes. Temp gage read 43 Degrees when I finally put her to bed.. I also dont seem to have a problem with the display "freaking out" from the cold weather... You guys have fun Me and the misses are going riding |
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| Awsome day for riding here in Georgia. Rolled to Savannah, charston, SC, Myrtle beach, and back to Marietta, 960 miles in 36 hours.
First road trip with my J and M speakers. They are awsome. You can really tell the diff at highway speeds.
Also, last month I road in temps between 36-44 for 3 days, no display problems here.
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Possible engine noise cure