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Posts: 4278
| Why does a Vision way so much 850 pounds. Take a way the motor and wheels and all the plastic. Whats left |
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Visionary
Posts: 3773 Pittsburgh, PA | Well what does the wheels with tires and rotors and pulley and engine weigh ? Just those components |
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Visionary
Posts: 8144 New Bohemia, VA | I'm glad it weighs what it does, it holds the road very well with that kind of weight. Good pulling power also, it can really take a mountain climb with throttle to spare. What's the beef with the beef? |
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Visionary
Posts: 3773 Pittsburgh, PA | https://youtu.be/Ug75diEyiA0 |
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Posts: 3
| I thought the Vision weighed 909 or roughly 864 w/o the trunk (45#). |
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Visionary
Posts: 4278
| DRY WEIGHT 867 LBS / 393 KG with trunk
doesn't anyone go to vic's web page and look stuff up |
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Cruiser
Posts: 178 LaGrange, GA | johnnyvision - 2016-06-01 5:56 PM
DRY WEIGHT 867 LBS / 393 KG with trunk
doesn't anyone go to vic's web page and look stuff up
Dry weight means without any fluids in it, so completely unrideable. You need gas and oil to crank it, you need brake fluid to operate the brakes and clutch, you need oil in your shock and forks to keep from riding a pogo stick. Rolling weight with the ability to actually crank and ride it is over 900lbs. |
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Tourer
Posts: 482 Beer Collins, Colorado (there is no fort) | Victory Vision Tour curb weight =909 Lbs. |
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New user
Posts: 3
| I guess my memory isn't as bad as I thought! Vision "wet weight" 909. Feels good to know I haven't lost it yet. :-) |
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Visionary
Posts: 8144 New Bohemia, VA | ...and what have we learned from all of this, boys and girls? |
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Puddle Jumper
Posts: 25 Hastings, MN United States | varyder - 2016-06-03 12:56 PM
...and what have we learned from all of this, boys and girls?
That in order to get a super cushy ride you need some weight behind it? |
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Cruiser
Posts: 106
| We've learned that Vicky weighs more than my sister. And nuthin' weighs more than my sister. Except my other sister... |
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Cruiser
Posts: 106
| I have two sisters. One's named Stern and the other, Severe.
Edited by rainryder II 2016-06-08 12:39 PM
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Visionary
Posts: 4278
| wonder how much the motor ways. Mabey 180 pounds |
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Cruiser
Posts: 119 CASTRO VALLEY, CA United States | The Vision may be heavy, but man, it sure can move!! |
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Visionary
Posts: 4278
| where did you come up with this 909 pounds?
My 2008 owner book says "WET" weight is 889. |
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Visionary
Posts: 1632 Jasper, MO | johnnyvision - 2016-06-10 6:07 PM
where did you come up with this 909 pounds?
My 2008 owner book says "WET" weight is 889.
I've actually weighed my 2008 Vision Tour Premium on actual scales. It has the CB/Intercom installed. The real world scales read 890 pounds.
We also weighed my buddy's 2001 GL1800 Goldwing the same day on the same scales. It is comparably equipped like my Vision, including CB. It weighs an extra 12 pounds, or 902 pounds.
For the record, we also weighed both bikes again when they were fully loaded for a two week trip. Guess what? The Vision was only 15 pounds lighter than the GW, meaning I had just as much luggage on board as the GW carried.
The GW has a 6.6 gallon fuel capacity vs the Vision's 6.0 gallons. On trips, the GW has about 20 miles more range per tank full than my Vision. The Vision gets slightly better fuel economy overall. My Vision has more power than his GW.
He always wants to stop "for a break" before I do. After switching bikes a few times, I can understand why. After about 100 miles on that GW, I want to get off of it too. The Vision is far more comfortable.
Ronnie
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Iron Butt
Posts: 804 Perry Hall, MD | Feels light as a feather when moving down the road. Have to admit that when I had to pick it back up off of the tip overs a little less weight would have been nice. |
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Cruiser
Posts: 178 LaGrange, GA | rdbudd - 2016-06-11 10:11 AM
johnnyvision - 2016-06-10 6:07 PM
where did you come up with this 909 pounds?
My 2008 owner book says "WET" weight is 889.
I've actually weighed my 2008 Vision Tour Premium on actual scales. It has the CB/Intercom installed. The real world scales read 890 pounds.
We also weighed my buddy's 2001 GL1800 Goldwing the same day on the same scales. It is comparably equipped like my Vision, including CB. It weighs an extra 12 pounds, or 902 pounds.
For the record, we also weighed both bikes again when they were fully loaded for a two week trip. Guess what? The Vision was only 15 pounds lighter than the GW, meaning I had just as much luggage on board as the GW carried.
The GW has a 6.6 gallon fuel capacity vs the Vision's 6.0 gallons. On trips, the GW has about 20 miles more range per tank full than my Vision. The Vision gets slightly better fuel economy overall. My Vision has more power than his GW.
He always wants to stop "for a break" before I do. After switching bikes a few times, I can understand why. After about 100 miles on that GW, I want to get off of it too. The Vision is far more comfortable.
Ronnie
Just for curiosity's sake, was every fluid (most importantly gas, since that's the biggest capacity item) at top level? I like that you weighed both on the same scale, because relativity is very important. If the scale you use (or dyno, or drag strip timing lights, or whatever other measuring device you use) is at all inaccurate, you at least have a valid comparison between two things. |
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Visionary
Posts: 1632 Jasper, MO | We weighed the loaded bikes with about 100 miles on the fuel tanks as we were coming home from a trip. Both were fueled at the same place same time. The Goldwing holds 2/3 of a gallon more gas than the Vision. That would account for about 3.5 to 4 pounds of the Goldwing's heavier weight. The rest is probably the GW's reverse and center stand.
I hear a lot of complaints about the Vision's "small luggage capacity", but we were two couples, both loaded for a two week trip, and had everything we needed. We had just as much on our Vision as the Goldwing riders had on their bike. I will say that the Goldwing's sidebag design is much easier to use than the Vision's, but we got it all in there.
We are both aging former crotch rocket riders who spent many years drag racing. We even had our own dyno for several years and built race bikes for other people. The old competitive urges make a comeback now and then, even though we ride luxury touring bikes now.
So, we've also been to the dragstrip a few times with a Goldwing and a Vision. My Vision is consistently about 4/10ths and 4 MPH quicker and faster than the Goldwing on any given day. Side-by-side on the same track.
We just had to know, so we also tried the top speeds and roll-ons a couple of times. My Vision has about 10 or 11 more MPH top speed than the Goldwing. When doing a roll-on contest in 5th gear from about 55 MPH, my Vision just walks away from the Goldwing and it never catches me. Our 5th gear top speeds are nearly the same (129 to 130 MPH), but I have another gear to go to. It lets me put the Goldwing far behind.
Just in case you might be thinking his Goldwing is sick, or that he can't ride, he took second place in the all-bike ET bracket drags a couple of years ago with it. He would have gotten first place except he redlighted in the final round.
Ronnie
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Cruiser
Posts: 170 Barrington, NH | shipping weight on a bare motor and trans assembly is 270lbs... |
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Posts: 170 Barrington, NH | from the service manual...
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Cruiser
Posts: 112 Denver, Iowa | I used the Longacre scales that I use for my race car, and my '09 Ness Vision weighed 844lbs with 3/8 tank of gas. |
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Visionary
Posts: 4278
| what I was trying to get at is if you pulled the motor and tires. What's left. A lot of plastic and aluminum with a very small amount of metal.
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Cruiser
Posts: 190
| All I know is that my Vision's too heavy for me to pick up when it falls over. I know the trick is to not let it fall over but there you go. I hate to admit it but I'm afraid I may have to downsize sooner than I expected. |
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Cruiser
Posts: 112 Denver, Iowa | My billet front wheel is 7.8 pounds heavier than the cast wheel on the 8-ball Vision... |
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Visionary
Posts: 3773 Pittsburgh, PA | ok |
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