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Posts: 74 College Station, Tx | I have the install instructions done in a PDF format. The current file size is 854Kb so I don't think it will let me post it here so I am posting it on a remote site you can go get it from. If you have any questions please let me know and I'll do my best to answer them. I also have a video up there too.
http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=66a9ec5ee02e1a8ad2db6fb9a8902bda Please see this thread for some background on this... http://www.vision-riders.com/bb/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=2287&posts=38&start=1
Edited by firehawk 2008-12-10 10:21 AM
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Iron Butt
Posts: 935 Rockford, IL | Clickable link for the project http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=66a9ec5ee02e1a8ad2db6fb9a8902bda Clickable link for the post that started the project http://www.vision-riders.com/bb/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=2287&posts=38&start=1 |
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Iron Butt
Posts: 935 Rockford, IL | Great write-up !! Nice HUGE pics !!! Now you need to post the link in the Tech Reference section here on the site. Have a question about the movie of the lights in action...the "flashing" of the lamps. Are they flashing because you turned on the hazards? Or do they flash as part of the brake lamps?
Edited by Lotzafun 2008-12-10 10:50 AM
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Posts: 74 College Station, Tx | They flash as part of the braking function. I hope it will attract more attention to me stopping. If I press the brake and let off then press it again the flashing sequence starts over 3 times then solid. They also flash with the hazards...
Edited by firehawk 2008-12-10 11:05 AM
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Visionary
Posts: 1290 Ruskin, Fl | Nice job Firehawk. That project is in my future. |
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Tourer
Posts: 506 Woodland Hills, CA | Nicely done! |
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Posts: 74 College Station, Tx | Thanks :-) |
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Iron Butt
Posts: 732 Western WA | Well done firehawk!
Thank you for taking the time to post this. |
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Visionary
Posts: 3006 San Antonio, TX | Thanks! Great work firehawk! |
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Posts: 175 Colorado | fantastic.....nice work. |
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Posts: 102 Madison, AL | Yep, thanks for the instructions, this is a must do for me. |
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Posts: 412 Fargo, ND | You get one huge 'At-A-Boy' for your innovation with this firehawk. Excellent work! It's things like you have done here with your project...coupled up with your write-up and photos that make this a great forum! Thanks for your efforts and also sharing with the crowd. |
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Tourer
Posts: 377 O'Neill, Nebraska | Excellent work and demo. Even I can figure out how to install this with your instructions.
Thanks a bunch! |
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Posts: 141 Cumming, GA | Firehawk, where did you purchase this kit and how much? |
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Posts: 141 Cumming, GA | Found the kit on the web. Did you use the existing bulbs or did you have to change them? |
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Posts: 74 College Station, Tx | It uses the existing bulb. For running lights it runs them at a lower voltage and goes to 12v when needed for blinkers, or brakes. I think I paid $52 for mine.
Edited by firehawk 2008-12-15 5:30 PM
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Posts: 141 Cumming, GA | Thanks and great work. I will order one for mine. |
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Posts: 537 , FL United States | Firehawk, You are the man!!! thanx for the article and pics... My wife has been after to buy a brake conversion for the trunk... Thanx you once again... |
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Posts: 74 College Station, Tx | Thanks guys. Just let me know if you run into problems and I'll see if I can help. |
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Posts: 79 Austin, Texas | That is a slick installation. I've got to get that. I've wondered since I bought the bike why they didn't connect the trunk lights to the signals and the brake lights. That should greatly improve the visibility and visual appeal of the bike.
Thanks! I'm on it. All I need is the time to do it. Any guess on how long it took? |
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Posts: 79 Austin, Texas | I have to add that I immediately went online and ordered the part. Can't wait. |
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Posts: 377 O'Neill, Nebraska | Well I just spent the afternoon installing this. Not easy....but not overwhelming. I like how the trunk lights flash when the brake is applied and I do believe that this will increase the visibility of the bike when turning or stopping.
Thanks again for a great write up and photos! |
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Posts: 74 College Station, Tx | spursmvp - 2008-12-16 7:51 PM Well I just spent the afternoon installing this. Not easy....but not overwhelming. I like how the trunk lights flash when the brake is applied and I do believe that this will increase the visibility of the bike when turning or stopping. Thanks again for a great write up and photos! Sweet!! Since you have been my official 1st tester of the documentation what changes need to be made to make it easier to follow? Let me know and I can make any changes and re-upload the document for others to follow. I would like to see lots of visions running down the road a little safer..
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Posts: 404 San Antonio, TX United States | I hope to install mine this coming weekend if my controller arrives in time. Plan on letting people know that we can install it at the shop after i do my bike and get the time down to a minimum. |
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Posts: 74 College Station, Tx | dwhite28 - 2008-12-16 11:14 PM I hope to install mine this coming weekend if my controller arrives in time. Plan on letting people know that we can install it at the shop after i do my bike and get the time down to a minimum. Please let me know of any improvements I can make to the documentation if you use it...
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Posts: 79 Austin, Texas | Firehawk
I guess I'm fairly refractory to learning. Can you give a list of which of the colored wires in the original bike wiring do what function? I guess i'm having a hard time determining from the photo after connection which connector went to which wire.
Thanks! I'm in driving distance to spursmvp, so if I don't suddenly get smarter I'll try to get in contact with him. |
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Posts: 74 College Station, Tx | dtoddrship - 2008-12-17 8:56 AM Firehawk I guess I'm fairly refractory to learning. Can you give a list of which of the colored wires in the original bike wiring do what function? I guess i'm having a hard time determining from the photo after connection which connector went to which wire. Thanks! I'm in driving distance to spursmvp, so if I don't suddenly get smarter I'll try to get in contact with him. at the very bottom of the PDF there should be a table with all of the wiring but here is the short of it: Green/Pink is what I used as running lights because it is what powered the trunk lights originally
White/Red is the brake wire *
Blue goes to the left turn signal *
Blue/Pink Goes to the right turn signal. *
* These were where I used a Tap Splice because I did not want to affect the original lights at the back of the bike I only wanted to change the trunk lights this is also why in that table I did not use the Red output from the 4710 to the main brake light. I hope this helps some, If not please let me know and I'll try to help more.
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Posts: 377 O'Neill, Nebraska | firehawk - 2008-12-16 8:32 PM
spursmvp - 2008-12-16 7:51 PM Well I just spent the afternoon installing this. Not easy....but not overwhelming. I like how the trunk lights flash when the brake is applied and I do believe that this will increase the visibility of the bike when turning or stopping. Thanks again for a great write up and photos! Sweet!! Since you have been my official 1st tester of the documentation what changes need to be made to make it easier to follow? Let me know and I can make any changes and re-upload the document for others to follow. I would like to see lots of visions running down the road a little safer..
Hey Firehawk....the only part where I got confused was trying to figure out what wiring bundle to unwrap underneath the seat. I finally figured out which group of wires to focus on by unplugging one and then checking which lights went out on the back of the bike. It also took me a while to figure out the wiring configuration based upon the chart so you might expand that VERY important part by saying 'cut the green/pink wire and use a butt connector to attach 8-10 inches of wire.'
Everything else about your install instructions was awesome and I will be the first to say you did a great job. I would not have known where to start without your directions.
Thanks again Firehawk |
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Posts: 102 Madison, AL | I bought my light controller yesterday and it has shipped, yea! I would not have even thought about it without the instructions you provided. Thanks very much. |
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Visionary
Posts: 3006 San Antonio, TX | Where are you guys buying the controller from and for how much?
Ride Safe!
Edited by radioteacher 2008-12-18 12:16 AM
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Tourer
Posts: 576 , IA | just a ?? if i put the kuryakyn 4710 on my vision and added a trailer will this unit still work in the past i wanted to do this with my t.c. but kury. said it would not work with trailer anyone that pulls a trailer do this yet thanks |
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Posts: 74 College Station, Tx | spursmvp : I will try to get a clearer description on the wiring harness and add that into the documentation.
Sonicbluerider: I do not see any reason this mod will effect the trailer wiring because we are not modifying the original tail lights only the trunk lights so it should not be a factor. |
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Posts: 576 , IA | u should send your info to kuryakyn i just e mailed them and they said the whole unit would not work at all seems there tech dept should read up on this thanks again |
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Posts: 576 , IA | this is what they said to me---- Sorry at this time we do not have any info on the model bike yet so I cannot say what will and will not work. We do not even call the #4710 to fit either!. Sorry again! Have a great holiday season!
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Posts: 74 College Station, Tx | Figures.... gotta love the corporate world. I can testify that it does in fact work...hehe (I have videos) |
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Posts: 79 Austin, Texas | You have videos, and we have all seen them. Fantastic.
Thanks for the additional info. If I had carefully reread your .pdf file, I would have seen the list of wires on page 11. Sorry 'bout that. Anyway, UPS says this will be on my doorstep Monday. Tuesday, I'll know if I'm up to the task. If you see a Steel Grey Tour riding around without lights, that'll be me. |
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Posts: 377 O'Neill, Nebraska | firehawk - 2008-12-18 8:36 AM
spursmvp : I will try to get a clearer description on the wiring harness and add that into the documentation.
Sonicbluerider: I do not see any reason this mod will effect the trailer wiring because we are not modifying the original tail lights only the trunk lights so it should not be a factor.
Hey Firehawk you did a great job in your write up. I think it's funny that Kury doesn't think it will work because I have a Vision in my garage that lights up like a Christmas tree.
Thanks again for all of your hard work! |
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Tourer
Posts: 537 , FL United States | My 4710 should be here any day now. |
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Posts: 537 , FL United States | My controller is still out there waiting to be delivered. |
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Posts: 102 Madison, AL | Before I start cutting, what was the "new wire" for? I got the bike apart and the controller is here, just have to splice it in.
Forget the abovequestion, I "got it" after looking at it for a little bit. The same signal was running to both lights so you had to add another wire for the output of the controller. Is this right?
Edited by david.terry 2008-12-22 8:33 PM
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Posts: 74 College Station, Tx | david.terry - 2008-12-22 7:09 PM Before I start cutting, what was the "new wire" for? I got the bike apart and the controller is here, just have to splice it in. You have to have that wire to run the left light independent of the right light.
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Posts: 460 Centennial, CO | Fire,
The link isn't working any longer. Is that because you took it down? If so, would you mind posting it again OR sending it to me via private message to my gmail account?
Thanks and Merry Christmas or Happy Holidays!
Jim |
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Posts: 74 College Station, Tx | ElroyJ - 2008-12-23 2:20 PM Fire, The link isn't working any longer. Is that because you took it down? If so, would you mind posting it again OR sending it to me via private message to my gmail account? Thanks and Merry Christmas or Happy Holidays! Jim I just tried the link and it is working again. If you still cannot get to it let me know and I'll email it to you.
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Iron Butt
Posts: 935 Rockford, IL | I just checked...works fine for me !!
Here is the direct link http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=66a9ec5ee02e1a8ad2db6fb9a8902bda |
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Tourer
Posts: 460 Centennial, CO | Well, after some investigation, the site is blocked on my end.
Would anyone mind emailing it to me or posting it to another site?
Thanks and sorry for the inconvenience!
Jim |
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Tourer
Posts: 460 Centennial, CO | A BIG thank you to reloader for sending me the PDF! MOST appreciated!
Have a Merry Christmas! |
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Cruiser
Posts: 141 Cumming, GA | I finally got it installed. Took longer trying to figure how to take the bike apart.
Thanks for the input. |
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Tourer
Posts: 412 Fargo, ND | I'm wondering if it is possible to remove the trunk easily with the additional wiring? Thanks! |
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Fountain Inn, SC United States | I've also made firehawk's installation guide available on the Downloads Page. |
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Posts: 79 Austin, Texas | Mid installation right now. The left light works great with brake and signal light. The right remains a steady, plain light with no change. Does anyone know if you have to cut the Green/Pink wire and connect it to the Kuryakin? I just did a tap splice to it. I'm thinking I may have to cut the Green/Pink wire, then attach the distal end (going to the trunk) to the Kuryakin.
Any ideas?
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Posts: 79 Austin, Texas | Answered my own question. I divided the Green/Pink wire as it rises to go to the trunk lights. Then I connected the Brown output to the distal segment and the right light works perfectly. So, you tap splice the Green/Pink in the main buncle of the light harness, leaving this main Green/Pink intact. But on the rising Green/Pink heading uphill to the trunk, you divide the wire. |
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Posts: 102 Madison, AL | I made the same mistake. Works great now! |
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Posts: 59 Pocono Mountains of PA | I went the other direction. I installed a "stinger" LED stop/turn bar in the space under the chromed piece on the trunk. It has break LEDs in the center and 6 yellow turn LEDs on each end. The low current draw of the LEDs allowd me to tap into the wire harness under the seat on the right side. There is also an optional connection that would have allowed a "running/dtop" configuration for the center.
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Attachments ---------------- Tank LEDS.jpg (45KB - 8 downloads)
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Posts: 3204 Memphis | DecTec, I was looking at that same set-up. Thanks for the pic. |
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Posts: 79 Austin, Texas | Very nice. |
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Posts: 175 Hinton, Iowa | I was the wondering if after installing the 4710, if I would be able to easily remove the trunk and run my backrest (Street style) without unhooking a bunch of wiring? I am planning on going back and forth between the tour and street this year depending an where I am going to ride.
THANKS AND RIDE SAFE, Mike |
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Iron Butt
Posts: 935 Rockford, IL | DecTec-
Some details on the Stinger unit.....
Model or part #s? Where did you purchase? Price? Etc...
How did it install? Two-sided tape?
Can you take some up-close pictures showing the install? And the gap between the lid and the Stinger? |
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Posts: 59 Pocono Mountains of PA | I purchased the light bar from Custom Dynamics (Amber, 12 Red, 6 Amber Integrated LED Light Bar Item #: ST6126ARA $69.95) http://www.customdynamics.com/integrated_led_light_bars.htm The strip comes with 3m adhesive tape on three sides along with tap splices and a unit to make it into a running/stop combination that I did not use to increase the "stop" factor. I removed the inner trunk lid and ran the wirs through two 3/32 holes I drilled into the exterior lip and secured the strip with the self adhesive stips. The wires were fed along the existing wire run for the trunk lights and tapped to the harness under the right side of the seat. in all it was only a few hours to complete. Another plus is the amber LEDs are visible when the trunk is open and the 4 ways are on.
Edited by DecTec 2009-01-02 7:38 PM
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Attachments ---------------- Trunk Gap.JPG (26KB - 2 downloads) LED Applied.JPG (57KB - 3 downloads) Trunk open.JPG (46KB - 2 downloads)
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Posts: 175 Hinton, Iowa | I have decided to sell the Kuryakin 4710 I ordered as I am going to turn my Vision into a street for next summer. See the classified.
Ride Safe, Mike |
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Posts: 146
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Posts: 64 Warren, Vermont | I just did the upgrade and wanted to thank Firehawk for the excellent pictures and directions! Great job and a relatively simple install. Here's a few comments:
I didn't put connectors on the wires I cut going to the left - didn't care about returning it to factory condition - but if I want to - I'll just have to put the connectors on then
It was a bit confusing regarding the green/pink down near the bundle of wires under the seat. I made the same mistake as others, cutting the green/pink at the bundle and using those ends to run to the kurakyn. Obviously, that gives flakey results - so I re-joined those, put a Posi-Tap on the Green/Pink at the under seat bundle, found the green/pink going up and used a posi-link there to the Kurakyn output.
Green/Pink - you tap it at the underseat bundle, you cut and splice it going up to the trunk lights and then you cut it and run a new wire down for the left light.
I also put a connector at hinge, where you disconnect the lights if taking off the trunk.
works like a charm and Polaris should have wired it this way to begin with for sure.
Hippo
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Posts: 50 Huntsville On Canada | Ya this is a must do. but I have a concern about warranty. seems like you gentlemen have had your share of problems in this department. I am very new to Victory & would appreciate any thoughts on the subject. |
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Posts: 446 East TN | For those who haven't done this mod it is WELL WORTH the 3 hours to do....However, a NOTE for '09 bikes: While doing the mod based on Firehawks GREAT pdf file. I found one hiccup (I guess only for the '09 models) when splicing the green/pink wire UNDER the seat DO NOT CUT THE WIRE use a tap splice and just use it to feed power to the 4710 module. Then trace the wire bundle up to an area right before it goes up into the tour pack and find the green/pink wire, here is where you CUT IT and place a scotch lock (spade connector) on the wire going UP TO THE TOUR PACK and tape the wire going back towards the main wire harness so it won't short to anything. Other than that this is a GREAT mod and should make the rear of the motorcycle seen more readily when braking, turning or using the hazard lights.
Edited by joe schmoe 2009-10-28 6:35 AM
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