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Woodland Hills, CA | We all know about the great tip over protection of the Vision through what we have read and seen in photos. Some even have had the chance (misfortune?) to experience it first hand. Well I can now say, somewhat embarrassingly, that I am now in the latter group.
I recently had an occasion while riding with my SO to make a sudden sharp turn in a parking lot, and over it went. My SO just sat there on the back, holding on the handles, asking "what do you want me to do". I asked her to just step off, after which I uprighted the bike, and we went on our way, with many interesting (and mostly unflattering) comments flowing in through the helmet speakers for the next several miles.
So now I can add my name to the list of unfortunate (unskilled?) riders who has tested the tip overs, and I am here to say they work great. I am also here to say I will be doing much more parking lot practice in the near future.
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New Bohemia, VA | Thanks Wiz. I constantly remind my wife that if I drop the bike just hang on to the handles and ride it out. |
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Rapid City, SD | Successfully tested mine twice. Only one witness in a cage. Probably laughed himself all the way home that day at my expense. Well only expense was a bit of pride since the tip over bars saved any expense to the bike. yay. |
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Fargo, ND | Unfortunately I have to chime in here also...The tip over protection does work nicely. A few of us were in a gas station and making a very slow turn, no problem. I was doing 1 - 2 mph and a friend cut in front of me. I grabbed the front brake and that's when we hit the deck and I was quickly reminded... If you are going slow and your handlebars are turned either direction use the rear brake only. Do Not use the front brake when turning at slow speed! |
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Salisbury, NC | I have used the tip over protection (TOP) on a couple of different types of oh ohs. The first time it was used was when I was putting on my rain suit and the wind just blew the bike over. I was on the side of the interstate down in Jacksonville. Seen the bad looking black cloud and knew I needed to get ready for it. So I pulled over and suited up. The wind was blowing around 50 in gusts according to the radio. Stunned me because I just stood there and watched it fall over. Picked it up, no damage. I thought, damn that is cool.
The second time the "TOP" was used, I had a 12 year old kid from a children home on back. The CBA was giving rides down at a children home in Concord, NC. There was a loop through the complex that we had been riding most of the day. At one of the intersections, there was a place that a dump truck had pushed up the asphalt. Well I hit that running around 20-25 mph. The bike shot up in the air and turned in midair. I landed sideways and stopped on the "TOP" still in the seat, both of us, the kid on back going ALL RiGHT Let's Do that AgaIn, and me thinking aw sh*t that was close. Needless to say, that was my last ride of the day. But I am glad that Victory built that into the bike. ET |
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Houston, Texas | Adding my tale.....had the STARSHIP about two weeks and stopped for a bite at a local bike hangout (showing off the STARSHIP)...thought I had engaged the stand with my boot, stepped off and the STARSHIP followed me. Though an embarrassing moment, the crowd gathered on the deck came out to help me right the STARSHIP and were amazed that it stopped where it did. They were impressed.
My ONE complaint in the design of the Vision.......the kickstand has an almost non-existent nob that is not friendly. |
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New York State | Have never laid my Vision down but did park the Demo bike on an incline and inadvertently tested the Tip over protection |
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Eyota, MN | I occationally tip mine over just to show people and see there reaction it's awesome!!!! |
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Buffalo Grove,Ill | Does anyone know of a video of the tip over pro, in action? and i dont mean just sitting on the side i mean a vid of one actually dropping onto the side? I d like to see that. |
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Rockford, IL | I have tipped mine on purpose a few times, makes it much easier to mess with the mufflers and a few other items. But I have done this fairly gingerly though. However I have wondered what would happen if the bike was just completely "dropped" from a unloaded upright position. I'm talking "let go of the handlebars and let it flop" type drop, no human input to help slow it or anything. Do the tipovers still function 100% as expected? Or could the bike possibly continue tipping past the tipovers?
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Buffalo Grove,Ill | + 1 |
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Memphis | If you dropped the Vision from straight up and down on a flat surface and didn't try to stop it, it will not go past the tip-overs. Once it is laying down, it is almost impossible to pull on the upper handlebar hard enough to get the wheels off the ground. You would probably bend or break something trying. |
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Woodland Hills, CA | clubford00 - 2008-11-25 3:23 PM
Does anyone know of a video of the tip over pro, in action? and i dont mean just sitting on the side i mean a vid of one actually dropping onto the side? I d like to see that.
I have seen a demo video where the bike is actually dropped and picked up again a couple of times, but I can't remember where I saw it. They even put weight on the handlebars while it was down trying to get it to turn over onto the bars, and it wouldn't budge. I will try to find the video, and if I do I will post the link here. |
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Buffalo Grove,Ill | T Y |
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Birmingham, AL 08 MC Tour Premium 2012 Bronze Mist | I made the mistake of trying them out on my lawn, thinking it would be better than dropping it on the driveway, WRONG! Both front and rear dug into the ground a little and allowed the fairing around the mirror to hit the ground and collect a little earth in the gap.
It was really easy to upright though. I should have tried my little experiment on a hard surface and had more faith. |
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Stockton, Ca. | Tip over protection is only good on a level surface with no additional weight on the top of the bike i.e. travel bag on top of the rear trunk rack. Mine went over on an incline. It went right past the tip over protection and the faring around the left mirror and rear left saddle bag took the brunt of the fall. Scratches all over the bag and mirror faring. The challenge was finding a paint shop to fix the scratches, the next challenge was mixing the correct paint match. Polaris does not publish paint codes, (they want you to buy their paint). The body shop finally did get the missing candy colors to match the paint and they did a perfect job. Since I was having some paint work done I gave them my access panel to paint as well. Looks much better painted than chrome. Anyone want a chrome access panel? Anyway the f@#!-up cost me $600.00 but the bike looks better than ever! |
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Centennial, CO | I am very bummed...
I had the misfortune and worse, a crack in the fairing next to the front tip over. Still unsure what is going to happen.
I figured it should be corrected under warranty due to the fact this is a HUGE selling point they make when trying to get you to drop dough on their palm. |
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Buffalo Grove,Ill | No offense to Excell but to drop your bike (grass or not) just to see if something works is kinda dumb. When you got your car did you run it into a wall to see if the airbags work. There are some things you must just take on faith. |
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New Bohemia, VA | Okay, Everybody stop right now! Now listen up, if you keep on dropping your Vision to prove your tip overs (TOP) you will have bigger problems on your hands, like a cracked engine block! (CEB) There was a post on here a while back that someone said they really enjoyed demonstrating that feature, but they paid for in the end. You've been warned, so don't come back later and say you weren't told. Them things are made to catch when you can't keep it up and you have to let it fall, they are not made to drop, bam, boom. It pains me to hear of a Vision getting mistreated like this and I will report you to the ETOVA (Ethical Treatment of Visions Agency, or something like that). If you want to drop something, go find you and old electra glide.  |
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Regina Saskatchewan Canada | http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=or_JhhwCYrQ
Tip over video |
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New Bohemia, VA | Cool, but I thought you had one of a real drop, not something from the HOGNet.  |
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Buffalo Grove,Ill | Yeah, what he said. except for the Hog part. |
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So Cal | Even though you all say they work. I have a hard time dropping my bike intentionally. IF and WHEN it happens, I will report my results. ' til then I'll do my best to keep things upright. |
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| I wasn't paying attention to the kickstand while cleaning the wheels and while scooting the bike forward the kickstand went in the up position and down went the bike. One of the the tip over points landed on my foot and was wearing tennis shoes. Believe me that much weight concentrated on such a small area will bring on some serious pain. And, because I was facing the bike it took everything I had to lift it. So moral of the story is if it goes down make sure you don't have one of those tip over points land on you. OUCH!
Edited by focushere 2008-11-27 7:16 AM
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Pocono Mountains of PA | As noted on another post ( and attestes to), I got the second nickname of "Slider" due to the praise of the tip overs. On the V2V leg last summer, I took a left at an intersection in NJ at around 25 mph and the rear tire locked and kicked out. Down I went and slid accross the intersection, still in the seat. The crew behind me stopped as well as the PD and a growd that were waiting to turn the corner. We picked up my Vision and there was no damage, except a scrape under the rear tip over that can not be seen. Everyone was amazes and we all remounted and continued the leg of the trip. |
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Citrus Heights, CA United States | park mine on side all time just to see reaction of people Great conversation piece That waywhen i do screw up nobody knows the difference |
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Fargo, ND | That waywhen i do screw up nobody knows the difference *********************************************** There you go rldr12...thinking outside the box. I love it! |
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Buffalo Grove,Ill | Something to consider that i heard from another post. Since the Vision is a heavy bike, and since the motor is an actual stress member of the frame, you might want to consider stopping your practice of showing off your "special" feature of the bike. It has been realized that the motor casing will crack if put on its side and the tip overs are taking the full weight of the bike. Just FYI. |
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Corpus Christi Tx. | I recently took an advanced riders course with my Vision and the one thing I did mention to the group as we introduced each other....jokingly.... was the fear of dropping my Vision during one of the tight manuveurs that are taught in the course. Well I did great on the course with the Vision and the folks there were amazed at how easily I was handling this big bike. As I was done with the figure 8 course and was getting back in line for the next manuveur I caught a hellacious cramp on my right thigh and could not hold the bike up and I had to lay it down. Needless to say about the embarrasment I endured, the mishap actually surprised the other riders on how great the tip over protectors work. One Harley rider riding an UC stated that if ever drops his bike that it would suffer extensive damage to his as opposed to no damage to mine. During a break a number of riders took a good look at the Tip overs and were impressed with them.
Ride safe. |
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| Tip over protection works great.........
Two weeks ago after 3 weeks of 10 hr. days plus 8 on Sat. (getting up at 4:30am home at 6:30pm) I was tired but I wanted to ride, so off I went, 30 minutes later while putting around town I glanced over to the now out of business Freedom Rider store then looked forward to a stopped pickup, I was too close to be able to do any more than hit my brakes, I skidded into his rear bumper, it appears that the damage done to my Vis is mostly cosmetic, front fairing parts, headlight shattered, trim above headlight, right fork slider got scuffed and the left front tip over was bent back, don't know if anything else got damaged, I was able to ride the bike off the road. Now I'm going through Vision withdrawals, gives me a chance to get re-acquainted with my 8-Ball. |
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O'Neill, Nebraska | cjnoho - 2008-11-27 1:44 AM
Even though you all say they work. I have a hard time dropping my bike intentionally. IF and WHEN it happens, I will report my results. ' til then I'll do my best to keep things upright.
Amen my brother! I saw this demonstrated by my dealer (not on my Vision) and believe. I'd rather show off our cool windshield that has a motor instead of dropping my bike on the ground. If this does happen I'll chime in here as well.
Cheers! |
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Woodland Hills, CA | Well, this is twice now! I had a guy cut me off in a parking lot today, and the only way to avoid him was to put the bike over on its side to keep him from hitting me. Fortunately we were both going really slowly, so other than getting my foot caught between my floorboard and his wheel, there was no damage. Needless to say, I was not a happy camper, and even though the guy got out and spent the next 5 minutes apologizing and asking if I was OK, I was still pretty hot.
In any case, the point of all this is just to say that the tip over protection once again performed as it was supposed to, and the Vision remains unscratched. But I have to admit that I am getting tired of testing it, and while I am glad to have it, I hope I won't have to use it again.
Oh yeah, for what its worth, I'm OK too. |
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So Cal | spursmvp - 2008-11-28 11:52 AM
cjnoho - 2008-11-27 1:44 AM
Even though you all say they work. I have a hard time dropping my bike intentionally. IF and WHEN it happens, I will report my results. ' til then I'll do my best to keep things upright.
Amen my brother! I saw this demonstrated by my dealer (not on my Vision) and believe. I'd rather show off our cool windshield that has a motor instead of dropping my bike on the ground. If this does happen I'll chime in here as well.
Cheers!
The windshield gets some pretty cool looks. I really get them when I tell them there's a wiper option that I didnt get! |
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So Cal | Wizard523 - 2008-11-28 7:38 PM
Well, this is twice now! I had a guy cut me off in a parking lot today, and the only way to avoid him was to put the bike over on its side to keep him from hitting me. Fortunately we were both going really slowly, so other than getting my foot caught between my floorboard and his wheel, there was no damage. Needless to say, I was not a happy camper, and even though the guy got out and spent the next 5 minutes apologizing and asking if I was OK, I was still pretty hot.
In any case, the point of all this is just to say that the tip over protection once again performed as it was supposed to, and the Vision remains unscratched. But I have to admit that I am getting tired of testing it, and while I am glad to have it, I hope I won't have to use it again.
Oh yeah, for what its worth, I'm OK too.
People in So Cal just dont pay attention. I thoght I was safe getting around a woman that was going 15 in a 35. Until I stopped at the light. She ended up tapping me at the light. I thought things looked okay. When I got home I noticed some cracks in the right tail light. Nothing major. I thought about replacing it but why? If I keep it, it may ward off the evil spirits around me.
Edited by cjnoho 2008-11-29 1:56 AM
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Woodland Hills, CA | Everyone here in so Cal is in just in too much of a hurry, and usually talking on their phone! They'll kill you trying to get to a parking space 20 feel closer to the entrance, which is what this guy was trying to do. In the end, after watching me go over, he either felt bad or was scared (or both) because he just left. And you are right, they don't pay attention! |
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So Cal | When I learned to drive, they told me it was a privilage not a right. Now, it seems to be an inconvenience to most.
Edited by cjnoho 2008-11-30 3:30 AM
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