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Illinois | Stalling recall #1 Voltage Regulator
Stalling recall #2 Ignition Switch
Stalling recall#3 Reflash & Loose Nuts
Radio reception does not exsist. Maybe it's because I'm in Chicago.
Exhaust popping. See recall 3
Dimple in saddlebags
Saddlebag alignment
Ipod cable defective
Hand controls defective
Surging Cruise Control
Cupped tires after very few miles
Belt Noise/Pulley alignment
Windshield distortion
Fuel smell after fill up
Dealer support
Polaris support
Don't say anything negative about the Vision on this site. Members tend to frown on that.
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Hampton Va | great list ...I have one or two....but there is nothing major there on your list ....if i had everything wrong on your list i would still do it again.....and for sure more happier than if i had gotten a HD!! |
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Illinois | racershawn - 2008-11-06 7:56 AM
great list ...I have one or two....but there is nothing major there on your list ....if i had everything wrong on your list i would still do it again.....and for sure more happier than if i had gotten a HD!!
EVERYTHING is worse on a HD. Not really, but I know thats what most want to hear. |
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Plainfield Illinois | ruttrow - 2008-11-06 5:50 AM Stalling recall #1 Voltage Regulator Stalling recall #2 Ignition Switch Stalling recall#3 Reflash & Loose Nuts Radio reception does not exsist. Maybe it's because I'm in Chicago. Exhaust popping. See recall 3 Dimple in saddlebags Saddlebag alignment Ipod cable defective Hand controls defective Surging Cruise Control Cupped tires after very few miles Belt Noise/Pulley alignment Windshield distortion Fuel smell after fill up Dealer support Polaris support Don't say anything negative about the Vision on this site. Members tend to frown on that. After 10,000 miles I agree with you on afew points. recall #1 and #2 were taken care of by my dealer prior to my taking delivery. Recall #3 made my bike run really great and I'm delighted with the reflash. The radio reception doesn't bother me as I use an mp3 player and it works great. The dimple and cover alignment issue were addressed by my dealer. No problem with my IPod cable. Hand controls work perfect. Cruise works perfect. I can ride hands free down straights and around curves and the bike tracks dead on w/o and shimmy or shake whatsoever. I take it that that means no cupping. At the rate the tires are wearing, it appears that they are still good for another 5k or so. NO belt noise (ever) and the belt hasn't been readjusted (as far as I know). I don't smell gas after fill ups. We have the same dealer and I believe they are GREAT. They have addressed every issue I've ever brought to their attention at my convenience. I'll tell ya what though. IF I had a problem with a dealer, I wouldn't post it on the net unless I wasn't planning on ever returning to the dealer for his assistance. If I was a dealer and someone was posting negative things about my service, I may give him/her a special place on my fecal roster. I wouldn't want my dealer to post negative stuff about me on the net w/o my knowledge so ..... I didn't buy the bike from Polaris. The people I handed my money to are the people I deal with. In fact, a year ago when I paid my grand deposit, I first went to a polaris dealer that was only 15 miles from my house. I thought their attitude SUCKED. I researched dealers in this area and found Randy's to have a very high approval rating with their customers so I drove 65 miles to Randy's and have been satisfied with their service. THERE. I've made positive and negative statements. What's it worth? About the same as my vote was worth 2 days ago.
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Illinois | No complaints here about Randy's. They have done the right thing for me. What had me start this post was the " create a gripes post ". To make myself clear, I have had very few of the problems listed above and the ones I did have were taken care of for now. I can only speak to the issues & enjoyments that I read on this forums and others like it. I think people that read my posts believe that I hate the Vision and miss my HD, for the record, I do not hate the Vision. As far as missing the HD, not really. I understand now more than ever that unless your Vision has changed your life you are an outsider, whiner, and HD lover. All one needs to do is look at the first reply to this post. That pretty much sums it up. Feel free to post that I should go back to brand x. You will be missing the point. |
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Hendersonville, TN | After renting the Goldwing, BMW, and HD for the weekends to determine which tour bike best suited my riding style, my decision was made after a 30 minute ride on the Vision...it had the "Fun Factor" that the others did not possess...my 09 has had the reflash and it reduced the number of exhaust popping, radio reception? Don't care as I use the IPOD Nano, even though I had to purchase a $40.00 connector for the Victory IPOD cable so my 4th gen. Nano would charge...no big deal, issue fixed, no other issues whatsoever...and my dealer here in Nashville knows me by name and always asks me how I'm enjoying my Vision and my Big Dog...I haven't ridden the Big Dog since the Vision purchase...and if I'm having any issues...Now, where's my damn reverse! Oh, it's on backorder... |
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Sugar Land, TX (Outside of Houston) | Everything in the list is fixable. The "Boo Hoo" or "Poor Me" attitude of some posters for some rather minor irritations that are covered under warranty may not be fixable.
Man - I would hate to believe that I would even think of anything but God's Beauty as I ride. Do some of you ride all day thinking - "Oh Great - What is that sound and is it covered under warranty?" Fix the problems - and ENJOY the Ride.
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Sparta, WI | I smoke, I drink, I chew, I swear, i don't work out, got a streak of lazy in me, piss money away, can't stay married, my feet hurt, my back aches, my eyes ain't just right anymore, got one yellow big toe nail, and I leave the lid up. No recalls that I am aware of but I might be pushing my luck.
Funny thing but it seems people still love me. Maybe that is the reason why I love my Vision. I can relate to it. Neither one of us are perfect but we are lovable.
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Iron Butt
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Linwood, MI | Minnow - 2008-11-06 12:30 PM
I smoke, I drink, I chew, I swear, i don't work out, got a streak of lazy in me, piss money away, can't stay married, my feet hurt, my back aches, my eyes ain't just right anymore, got one yellow big toe nail, and I leave the lid up. No recalls that I am aware of but I might be pushing my luck.
Holy crap, Minnow! You're my long-lost, unkown, twin brother!!!
@ ruttrow - By titling this "Vision Facts" you imply that all Visions have all these problems, and that just isn't true. In fact, I only know of one person here that has had all those issues. As far as that last one, making a broad generalization of everyone here based on a couple of folks is not a "fact". |
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Illinois | Rebel - 2008-11-06 1:36 PM
Minnow - 2008-11-06 12:30 PM
I smoke, I drink, I chew, I swear, i don't work out, got a streak of lazy in me, piss money away, can't stay married, my feet hurt, my back aches, my eyes ain't just right anymore, got one yellow big toe nail, and I leave the lid up. No recalls that I am aware of but I might be pushing my luck.
Holy crap, Minnow! You're my long-lost, unkown, twin brother!!!
@ ruttrow - By titling this "Vision Facts" you imply that all Visions have all these problems, and that just isn't true. In fact, I only know of one person here that has had all those issues. As far as that last one, making a broad generalization of everyone here based on a couple of folks is not a "fact".
Some of you will be happy to know this will be my last post in this thread. I did not imply anything using the title I did. As I have explained it is only what I have read on forums and they were not all posted by 1 person. I listed dealer support and had someone call me out on my selling dealer, I never said my dealer, or called him by name, IF, ( and I have not ) had a problem with my selling dealer it would be brought up to him face to face not hiding behind a monitor. People can read whatever they would like into anything they would like. Have a nice day.
Mike
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Pitt Meadows, BC Canada | Well, here's my take:
Stalling recall #1 Voltage Regulator - ?
Stalling recall #2 Ignition Switch - ?
Stalling recall#3 Reflash & Loose Nuts - half hour at dealer - never had a stall for any reason
Radio reception does not exsist. Maybe it's because I'm in Chicago. - radio fine in town. I have 10 cd changer for road trips
Exhaust popping. See recall 3 - no popping - ever
Dimple in saddlebags - no dimple
Saddlebag alignment - no mis-alignment
Ipod cable defective - don't use
Hand controls defective - don't care
Surging Cruise Control - no surging
Cupped tires after very few miles - tires still perfect at 6000 mi
Belt Noise/Pulley alignment - no noise
Windshield distortion - no distortion
Fuel smell after fill up - no smell or dripping
Dealer support - excellent
Polaris support - just sent me a goodie bag
I guess I don't qualify as a bonefide Vision Griper because THE VISION FACTS aren't facts for many of us.
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New Bohemia, VA | 26,700+ (s)miles and loving every minute of it. I've had some of that stuff on my list, still do. But this bike is phenominal in every regard. I'm sorry some have had it worse than me, and hope you will get it resolved. Those with positive atitudes will still say as they say, and those with negative atitudes will stay the same. I've notice some strangely concocted atitudes from the complainers and their responses, but I won't share my thoughts here. It is a shame that JAM and Miles put a lot of effort into this site and it has become a series of complaining, not informational mind you, but down right complaining. We don't need a seperate board, JAM already did that, the Victory Riders. So far not much complaining over there, but that is how this one started also.
The real beef I have is to those who complain, do you make a sincere effort to resolve these problems with the dealer or Victory, or do you take your atitude with you?
If you find a better bike with HD, sell, sell, sell and go with HD, most don't care what you ride, just ride what you enjoy. If you find one better with Honda, sell, sell, sell and go with Honda. The continual complaining, and yes I've had my share, just makes this another board among many. I think that Vision riders are a cut above the others, pioneers if you will. If you can't take it, get rid of it.
I'm heading out on Tuesday going to Texas, pushing 1,600 miles in little more than 24 hours is my plan. I've not looked for one dealer along the way, and don't care if there isn't any. I've got almost 30k on my belt and I'll change it out Saturday before I go, but if my dealer don't have one, then I'll use it until I get back. I'll have 16,000 miles on my rear tire when I get back, cups and all, but still got tread that I'll live, or die with. NO GPS, or back rest or foot pegs or heat wings or.... Just my iPod, maybe a new CB,.... there's one you left off your list.
Oh, and I'll push another 1,600 miles back in just over 24hours coming home. I don't expect to be worried about all the nagging warranty issues, but just, as it was put early, I'll be thinking on God's Creation. That's why I ride and I'm so glad I can do it in VISION FASHION, as there is no other that can even compare.
Just a few more post to go and I'll leave to all to you... Peace Out! |
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Buffalo Grove,Ill | Minnow - 2008-11-06 11:30 PM
I smoke, I drink, I chew, I swear, i don't work out, got a streak of lazy in me, piss money away, can't stay married, my feet hurt, my back aches, my eyes ain't just right anymore, got one yellow big toe nail, and I leave the lid up. No recalls that I am aware of but I might be pushing my luck.
Twin? hell i think were triplets, except i can stay married ( damn it ) |
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| I have had the recalls done........crooked windshield replaced......left bag fixed........thats it. For a first year bike thats pretty good. Sounds like some of you guys got a lemon........but it can be all fixed under warranty |
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| I think Mikes point was that folks DO have issues with heir Visions and they hardly consider it griping. I'm positive if you go to the Harley Forum you'll find the same. Folks do tend to look for an outlet when they have an issue. It might be to simply vent, might be for confirmation they aren't alone, or simply to express their experience. Unfortunately on MANY forums (not just VisionRiders) there are those who absolutely, positively will not stand for anything negative being said about the bike, will defend its honor like some over protective mom. I guess there isn't anything wrong with that either, unless it becomes personal. Here is MY take: Too many folks JUMP to conclusions about post often times jumping to wrong conclusions/assumptions. Now I know its not real manly for a guy to ask for clarification of anything, but perhaps it might cut down on some of the inaccurate perceptions. Some probably think I hate my bike based on replies, nothing could be further from the truth, YET it has had a lot of stuff mess up and I have posted about it. SOME of those "things" others have expressed similar issues with, some I have been alone. Regardless the info is here for ME to get answers, or for others to be aware of. I kinda like that the forum provides a place to share both the good and the bad, but I also find it a bit distasteful to be attacked or see others attacked for daring to comment negatively. Just my thoughts.
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| same price as a Harley.....Street Glide
comes standard with linked braking system and steel braided lines.
106 engine stock with excellent roll on power right out of the crate.
Heated grips and rider passenger seat.
Fairing is designed to work and does an effective job to deflect wind blast.
Lower fairing deflecters standard.
Chrome engine covers standard.
oil cooler standard.
can change engine oil without a mess on your front engine mount.
Adjustable foot and hand controls standard.
Excellent headlight with HID...Standard.
Electronic adjustable windscreen standard.
Cruise control standard.
Handling is excellent for a 800 plus pound machine.Bike doesnt wobble in turns.
styling is one of a kind.............these are my Vision facts. |
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| I forgot to add excellent clear rearview mirrors..........not blurred. |
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Sparta, WI | Teach - 2008-11-06 9:14 PM
I think Mikes point was that folks DO have issues with heir Visions and they hardly consider it griping. I'm positive if you go to the Harley Forum you'll find the same. QUOTE]
A Harley site I am familiar with is v-twinforum.com. It is a great forum. They have a forum for Victory also but are basically a huge group of Harley riders. They bitch about everything but are quick to defend their love of Harley's. |
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Pittsburgh, PA | out of that list i only had the recalled done and i didnteve had the stalling problem. i just had it done for the sake of safty. =) i must me one of the lucky ones.. |
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Pittsburgh, PA | out of that list i only had the recalled done and i didnteve had the stalling problem. i just had it done for the sake of safty. =) i must me one of the lucky ones.. |
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Alberta, Canada | Over 6000 k in just under two months and I have went in for a couple of recalls only because I received the notice in the mail. Not an ounce of trouble. I am thinking that some of these "cronic" complainers have not owned a bike(s) before and are living in a dream world. A bike is a mechanical device and requires some simple basic maintenance to keep it at 100%!!! Give your Victory some love and attention and she will treat you right!! Happy biking. |
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San Antonio, TX United States | Plumley,
If you were to pay attention to most of the list, there is nothing on there that is a "Maintenance" item. They are failures or flaws from either poor quality control on the suppliers side to Victory or even poor quality control after assembly. I personally have a great bike. I have not had the issues that others have had and i do nothing but get on her and ride. Wash her when i can and of course the preleminary minimum for maintenance. |
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O'Neill, Nebraska | No problems here either. I had the recalls done just to be on the safe side but have not had one single defect as listed above. Of course I only have 5500 miles on is in 5 months so I suspect they could still happen but I doubt it.
Now if I could only stop everyone from asking me questions at the gas stations! That seems to be the biggest defect of this bike is all of the attention it garners. As a fellow rider I definitely feel for those folks that are experiencing these problems because I'd probably be miffed about them.
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Richmond, Virginia | STOP !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Can we all REALLY focus on the important thing?
WHATS WITH THE YELLOW TOE NAIL.
gees, you guys motorcycles motorcycles motorcycles when the real issues of today are literally standing barefoot in front of you..
with one glaring yellow icon of humanity........................ ok i'll put the coffee down.
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| Minnow - 2008-11-06 12:30 PM
I smoke, I drink, I chew, I swear, i don't work out, got a streak of lazy in me, piss money away, can't stay married, my feet hurt, my back aches, my eyes ain't just right anymore, got one yellow big toe nail, and I leave the lid up. No recalls that I am aware of but I might be pushing my luck.
Funny thing but it seems people still love me. Maybe that is the reason why I love my Vision. I can relate to it. Neither one of us are perfect but we are lovable.
Blame Al Gore! It's those damn low energy using light bulbs causing all of us a bit older to go blind.
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| Radio reception does not exsist. And I'm halfway between Indy and Ft. Wayne, the two largest markets in Indiana. As for the IPOD, I'll use it some, but there are times I want to listen to Rush's Rants and getting any kind of AM (or FM for that) is a pure hit and miss with this audio system.
Saddlebag alignment Dealer is fixing now
Hand controls have lousy placement. Hard to use w/gloves
Surging Cruise Control Must be the manufacturer's problem. What I believe is that Polaris has a very poor Supply Chain Management team. I know I can do a better job than they do, and I'm not being egotistical.
Windshield distortion. Yep, right where I like to have it when riding.
And I totally agree with this statement you made...."Don't say anything negative about the Vision on this site. Members tend to frown on that."
As far as a dealer, Monster Motors in Ft. Wayne are as good as it gets. Prompt, friendly, trained, and they're enthusiasts! Too many dealers are simply in it for the money, and those who treat customers like Monster does, get the repeat business.
Do I like the bike...sure. Would I be as happy with a Wing, BMW, Triumph, or Harley...probably.
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Alberta, Canada | Stalling recall#3 Reflash & Loose Nuts
Belt Noise/Pulley alignment
These are maintenance items that I took care of myself and these were on the "list"!! This shows me that you obviously don't do much of your maintenance either!! |
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Fargo, ND | There is a thread in the Tech Q&A about the cruise control surging. Mine did it a little when I got it. Went through the calibration procedure which takes all of about 2 minutes, problem solved. I'm not afraid to take care of small maintenance details either.
Do I like the bike...hell yeah. Would I be as happy with a Wing, BMW, Triumph, or Harley...no way. |
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San Antonio, TX United States | Plumley - 2008-11-23 12:18 PM Stalling recall#3 Reflash & Loose Nuts Belt Noise/Pulley alignment These are maintenance items that I took care of myself and these were on the "list"!! This shows me that you obviously don't do much of your maintenance either!! As i said before, MOST of the list are not regular maintenance items. In actuality the belt tension/alignment is the only item on the list that would be considered a regular maintenance item, and not one person has laid a finger on my bikes other than me for the last 15 years. Have either ordered any specialty tools or had them made and did all of my own work. By the way, how did you take care of the reflash yourself? |
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Richmond, Virginia | whats next guys who can piss the farthest????? |
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San Antonio, TX United States | VaParadox,
Thanks, did not mean for it to head down this avenue. My original intention was to point out that the list is mostly comprised of things that maintenance has nothing to do with. Many of the things are honest complaints. I myself have been guilty of taking the stance that Plumley took as far as thinking some people have never owned a motorcycle or live in a dream world. I know this is truly not the case and made the mistake of commenting on behalf of members that truly have had legitimate complaints. |
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Visionary
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| It's a bike and it will have some issues. Some will have more than others, that is neither the owners shortcoming or their fault, just bad luck. Anyone who would suggest that someone who is having an issue or two is inexperienced, not mechanically iclined, or doesn't ride.... well that person would be a fool, nuff said. |
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New Bohemia, VA | And the beat goes on. I'm starting to laugh at all the posers that get their kicks on running things into the ground. Some folk have problems and think their fix is putting it on the forum. I don't have a problem in some venting, even about dealers because Vic is lacking very much in this department as I found out even on the road. I'm trying to readjust my expectation there because I don't know who has it worse, us or them when it comes to dealing with Victory. But I can say that the Vision I purchased is solid as a rock. It seems that when it approached 30k miles it started to run even better. I don't have any of that sewing machine noise and the stock pipes have a great rumble to them that does not grow tiring. I love the fact that so many are taking the opportunity to purchase a motorcycle and it is a Vision. I've been mentored by some old school bikers that just loves to ride as I do. I recalled the first time I got stuck on the side of the road with my CB350 because of the charging wire keep coming loose inside the housing. An old harley rider who walked with a limp and had more scars on his face than most I've ever seen stopped to help. He knew exactly what was wrong when I told him what was up. I knew to and was starting to take the cover off when the next I knew he was doing it. He was recounting his days when he had ridden a honda 350. He told me he had laid down many bikes and he just keep getting back on, which accounted for all the scars and the limp. We talked biker talk, and I had only been riding my 350 a little more than a month and is was when I first took up riding. That harley rider set the mark for me to what a biker ought to be. No judgement, no "get a real bike", just keep on riding and keep the shinny side up.
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San Antonio, TX United States | Thanks for the reminder Chris. Thats where i come from as well. I have a BMW shirt that sort of says it all. "What day is it? and how did i end up in Alaska?" Just ride and enjoy. |
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Dale, Indiana | VaParadox - 2008-11-23 3:52 PM
whats next guys who can piss the farthest?????
When I was in the 6th grade I could piss on the ceiling of the boys restroom in our little 3 room school house!
TOP THAT!
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Fargo, ND | Tim...that is truly world class! 
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