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New Bohemia, VA | When folks got their new Vision 8 years ago, this place was a buzz. So have just grown tired of our Visions? I know I haven't, I'm still amazed at the sure footedness and how it rides like its on a rail. Anyone new to riding and new to the Vision? Rest assured you couldn't have gotten a better bike. I still hear folks getting a Harley, just because its a Harley, you know. But you won't find a better ride than on a Vision. I just changed my oil for the umpteen time and it still doesn't use any oil significantly. I drained out about 4 and a quarter quarts and put in 4 and half quarts. I still don't check my oil, I just measure it when I drain the old oil out. If you're new to the Vision, new to riding, or even an old rider, let's get the chatter going here of your experience. I put on over 500 miles Christmas eve and Christmas day, what a present! |
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Sand Rock, AL United States | I was just talking to my goldwing buddy today. Told him if I was in the market , it's highly likely I would buy a Vision again! I've never even wanted a succeeding bike to be identical to the one I have until the Vision. |
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New Bohemia, VA | Good tip, however 4 1/2 quarts works well in mine. I get as much of the old oil out so no overfill threats. |
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Sand Rock, AL United States | 4.5 quarts is the requirement. that's why the oil change kits come with 4 quarts and the cute little half quart . I also never check my oil. I drain it, put it all in and forget about it. |
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New Bohemia, VA | While 4.5 is the requirement, actually it is 5 quarts dry, if folks don't drain out all of the oil possible, then it can be overfilled when putting in the required 4.5 quarts. As we all know, overfill is worse than under fill, so it is a good tip to follow. I usually right the bike and hold it for a few minutes and then put it back on the kick for another half hour. It is always dripping still when I put the plug back in, but that is expected. |
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Sand Rock, AL United States | I do it hot so it always drains properly. I do rock it a time or two. As we have stated, 4.5 is the standard , meets the oil level indicator mark perfectly every time. It's worry free , dump it in and ride. I'm done and back on the road in 15 minutes. |
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Eagan, MN United States | back to the OP's original point of his message which if I read correctly was not about how much oil was needed in an oil change...
I'm fairly new to the Vision family. I've had mine a little over a year. I bought in in August of 2014. I have only put on about 15000 miles so far (damn winters!). I had been wanting a Vision for a while and am extremely pleased that I finally got one. Some of my friends give me a hard time about having an old man's bike but man, can this bike handle! I don't care about it being a full dress touring machine it is one of the best handling large bagger out there. When I get on my Jackpot now I wonder how I rode that as much as I did and how I did. The Vision is a dream to ride. I'm not sure what Victory or anyone else could come out with that will beat the Vision. I've test road Indians and while a good ride, fall short of what the Vision can do. I've done one Iron Butt ride so far on the Vision and compared to the two I did on the Jackpot it's almost cheating doing it on the Vision. Doing a 1000 mile day is easy on these bikes! |
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Sand Rock, AL United States | Rowebote - 2015-12-29 9:23 AM
back to the OP's original point of his message which if I read correctly was not about how much oil was needed in an oil change...
I'm fairly new to the Vision family. I've had mine a little over a year. I bought in in August of 2014. I have only put on about 15000 miles so far (damn winters!). I had been wanting a Vision for a while and am extremely pleased that I finally got one. Some of my friends give me a hard time about having an old man's bike but man, can this bike handle! I don't care about it being a full dress touring machine it is one of the best handling large bagger out there. When I get on my Jackpot now I wonder how I rode that as much as I did and how I did. The Vision is a dream to ride. I'm not sure what Victory or anyone else could come out with that will beat the Vision. I've test road Indians and while a good ride, fall short of what the Vision can do. I've done one Iron Butt ride so far on the Vision and compared to the two I did on the Jackpot it's almost cheating doing it on the Vision. Doing a 1000 mile day is easy on these bikes!
You know, you're right. It is not about oil change habits at all, shame on you OP for bringing up oil and subsequent postings (of which we were in agreement) on your own post lol.
Glad you finally got a Vision Rowebote. Agree on all points of handling and unbelievable range and comfort while doing it. I thought the same thing, that Ironbutts are almost too easy on the Vision . Done a few myself. My wife even did a documented Saddlesore 1000 as a passenger. For a real ride challenge on a Vision , I had to step it up to the Bunburner 1500 and then the Bunburner 1500 Gold (1,500+ miles in less than 24 hours). that was a real challenge for me even on the Vision. It's something I'll never forget. I love challenge endurance riding as well as casual smell the roses type riding. Sorry if I made this about IBA rides. Didn't mean to hijack
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Eagan, MN United States | jimtom - 2015-12-29 9:57 AM
You know, you're right. It is not about oil change habits at all, shame on you OP for bringing up oil and subsequent postings (of which we were in agreement) on your own post lol.
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Eagan, MN United States | but at least we are getting some activity whether it's about oil, IBA rides or how awesome the Vision is |
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Sand Rock, AL United States | true my friend.  |
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New Bohemia, VA | I think my overall point is how reliable this bike is. While I've had to do some repairs and maintenance to this bike, the engine has been rock solid. Even some of the repairs have been self-inflicted. Even some mysteries have unfolded, like bike cutting off not being able to start it for about 2 hours, then starting without doing anything too it. That was a few thousand miles back, on my way to Sturgis. I've always consider riding the Vision as cheating when doing an iron butt, though I've only done one officially. A thousand mile day is like a 600 mile day on any other bike. While those who ride a Vision can't say enough about it, I'm glad the bike is "ugly" to most folks so that it is a rarity to see one. In fact, I'm seeing more Indians than I'm seeing Visions. While us older Vision-Riders have settled down in the chatter, I know there are folks like you, Chris, who bring a renewed vitality to the discussions. Welcome to Vision World.
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Sand Rock, AL United States | i miss the old days when we all talked about our bikes here and the VMC all the time. Forums have been slothful for so long.  The only time things get interesting is during model release. Thanks to all the other conversation starters and sustainers. |
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Perry Hall, MD | I've been riding my Vision for over 6 years now. My guess is that anyone not completely satisfied with their bike after so long would be looking for something new by now. Rather, yesterday I installed a Kuryakyn luggage rack to further enhance how I can use the Vision. I continue to question why anyone would deprive themselves of this wonderful experience simply because it isn't made by or looks like a HD
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Eagan, MN United States | varyder - 2015-12-29 12:24 PM
...While those who ride a Vision can't say enough about it, I'm glad the bike is "ugly" to most folks so that it is a rarity to see one. In fact, I'm seeing more Indians than I'm seeing Visions.
I agree with this. I like that the Vision is unique in it's styling and that it does not appeal to everyone. Personally I love it but can see why some people may not. With the fender recall we saw there were about what, 8000 Visions built? Not a lot. Figure that my '14 Nuclear Sunset Orange probably didn't sell a lot, there are at least 2 others in the Twin Cities area besides mine. Another guy in the TCVR bought one (he was going to buy the one I bought!) and I've seen another '14 running around. I have to figure that my bike is fairly unique in the larger scope of motorcycle numbers yet locally there are a few around! I have 45k+ on my Jackpot and very few of them were "gentle." I expect to put even more on the Vision. Both have engine work but I'm with you. outside of a few exceptions these are pretty bullet proof machines! |
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| if you have not seen this video its worth the watch.
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New Bohemia, VA | Good little video, makes me think about things I need to check. Thanks! |
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| Since I got my 2010 Vision 8-Ball shipped up from TX last spring, I've put about 4500 miles on it. It still draws a crowd, even the Hog riders allow it's the spaciest thing they've ever seen, that blackout look is so popular the Honda F6B is still copying it, and the night series from HD is going strong too. They only made'em in '10 and '11, so they're rare as hens teeth and so striking in appearance I had to go out and buy a Batman shirt! Just LOVELOVELOVE this thing! I wonder how many were actually made, considering the scarcity of Visions in general...Got a bit under 13,000 miles on it, it may be the last bike I'll ever own as my main ride.
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CASTRO VALLEY, CA United States | My journey to the Victory world started in May 2013 with a sunset red Judge. I liked the idea of a 'muscle' bike and something about the sunset red color. Riding the Judge just didn't do it for me. Something was missing. I guess I just outgrew it. I made a low offer ($4500 off MSRP) for a leftover 2013 sunset red Vision in October 2013 and surprisingly it got accepted. This would be my 3rd bike and never did I think I would own 3 bikes. After I got the Vision, it changed my whole perspective as a rider. I just couldn't wait to ride and just keep going. I would ride hundreds of miles just to get a donut or a burger or just for lunch. On group rides with the younger crowd, guys couldn't believe I could keep up with bikes half the weight or more of the Vision. The best compliment I got was "That ain't no Harley."
After getting cams from KevinX, it's like having a whole new bike. The upper RPMs has awaken. I have about 20k miles on the Vision in 2 years and this is the 1st bike I've had with this many miles and it still calls to me to ride it. Unfortunately I have 2 other awesome bikes, so the Vision is called upon for the long rides of 150 miles or more. My FJR handles the intermediate distances and my Triple calls to my hooligan side. Life is good!
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New Bohemia, VA | I keep thinking about getting a second bike, and I lean toward a Vintage, in fact I'm in the work up to order one, but haven't pulled the trigger. I keep asking myself why, because I will favor the Vision as long as it is running. I literally ruin my cars by not driving them regularly because I ride my Vision mostly. I don't like the thought of getting an expensive toy if I'm not going to play with it. I don't consider the Vision a toy though, any other bide would be, unless it was a replacement to the Vision. I do need to do a total shakedown which would take few months due to available time, so that might move me to get that second bike in the spring. We'll see. |
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VA Beach | On Labor day weekend, purchased an Immaculate and low mileage, 2009 Vision tour premium ice blue wit CB, reverse gear and many extras. The engine was completely sock when I go it. Now it has a stage 1kit (without download) PCV, top filter, VM1 Cam, VTW. It is a completely different bike and I am loving it.
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| My journey to the vision began in 09 when I first started reading articles and reviews about this wonderfully different machine. My biggest obstacles were that I already had an 01 Concours and there is a self-imposed cash requirement. After several years of "more research" and saving, this past July I was finally able to purchase my new 14 Vision. It truly is everything I had dreamed and hoped it would be....and more. The comfort on long rides is remarkable, as I find myself having gone a lot longer in the saddle than I had planned. The stability is unbelievable for such a large bike. I also can't believe the waves and thumbs-up on the highway from cagers. The only thing I'm missing from my Concours is the 7.5 gallon tank, but I'm adjusting.
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Cheyenne, WY United States | My Journey started with the first models. Saw them on display in a mall...Fast forward to a trip to Utah a couple of years later. Went to a shop with a colleague that rode a Victory. Sat on a Vision as I thought it was the best looking bike since the 68 350 Honda scrambler or perhaps a BSA 441 Victor. Man the reach to the front seemed like a carrier deck. Two years later I'm out antiquing with the wife...thinking I can't tell the boys THIS is all I did on a Saturday...sooo we stop in the local Vic shop. I don't see a red one so I'm about to leave and the salesman says we got two back here....a Cross Country Tour and the Vision Tour. Wife sets on the back of both and says....We're leaving with the Vision....I ain't so sure what with spending that kind of money an all.....Darned if she didn't get her way.......Now I never imagined such a large bike could ride like a sport bike. As I've said, they'll probably bury me on one. ;-) |
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| I got my 14 Vision in July. I had been keeping an eye on this one as soon as it landed in the dealership last year. I traded my 07 KingPin in, right after spending well over $1k on maintenance and tires. The rear tire literally had only 200 miles on it. Loved the KP, bought it in Feb 11 with only 2500 miles on it, traded it in with 66k miles.
My son almost ruined my car, so needed a new car but wanted a new bike. Get a new car, then no new bike anytime soon and want to kill son. So I bought the Vision. Rode out of the dealership with 44 miles on it, Monday 13 July. Did the 500 mile service on Wed and rode to NJ on Thursday. Has 6500+ miles on it now.
I have been very impressed with both bikes. Loved the KP. Test rode a CCT and not impressed. Rode a Vision and instantly knew that I would get into trouble on it.
End of 2010, we decided to get a bike. Went into a used bike dealership to purchase a GoldWing only to find out that I was too broken and not able to bend to fit on one. The KingPin was the first bike to fit on, but knew little about Victorys. I liked the reviews, but wasn't sure about spending 10K on a bike. Went 30 years without one, not sure if I could do a lot of riding with my body as broken as it is. So sat on over 100 bikes but kept coming back to the KingPin.
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Asheville, NC | Sorry that I haven't posted much. Been out riding my Vision. We rode down to The Possum Drop on n New Year's Eve in Brasstown, NC. We were the ONLY motorcycle in attendance. It's a great machine. I do not regret trading two Triumphs in on it. I bought a rack and hitch set up from D Wray, love that too. |
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New Bohemia, VA | I like the responses to this thread. I've been riding again this hitch for 10 years now after a 17 year hiatus. I never really thought that I would buy another bike, but I will say it is one of the most single best choices I have made. I've had 10 great years of riding, but this is the first year I might fall into decline as by body refuses to cooperate properly in the colder weather. I'm making consciences decisions not to ride in lower tempatures, whereas in the past, ice was my only serious consideration not to ride. |
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| I just bought a 2008 vision at the beginning of winter just been around the block a few times cant wait for spring to get her out on the road, so cant say anything good or bad just got ton wait and see.
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| Jedi:
Love the 8-Ball! Any idea how many of that model were made? I know of three now...I'd post a pic but 1.) I don't know how, and 2.) It looks the same!
No riding up here in the Great Northwet for awhile...not without floatation tires anyway!
I am not afraid to ride in the rain, just scared of dirty motorsickles
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Redwood Falls , MN United States | My new Vision is getting dropped off at my house next week, to bad it will be so cold!! |
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Asheville, NC | We get intermittent warm days here around Asheville and Maggie. More curves and a lot less tourists riding now. The leaves are long gone and visibility is good. Unfortunately, it's cold rain for a day or two.
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West Salem, WI United States | My journey started when I wanted to get a scooter for a short 9 mile commute to work. Found a scooter at the HD dealer and not only would he not budge on the price but wanted a "dock" fee! So, my father-in-law gave me his VStar 650 due to him not riding anymore. Rode that for a year and then found a beautiful 2008 Kingpin. A coworker had an 07 KP and I loved the look and feel. Rode it and loved it for 2 years, and then went on a long day ride with my wife and she did not like the Pillion. She said we should probably get a bike with a better back seat (Her dad had road goldwing for many many years and she knew how comfy that was).
So, I had ridden a Vision and liked it. I wasn't sure about the handlebar ergonomics but decided I wanted one. Did some searching and found a new in the box 2013 in Kalamazoo Michigan, a 900 mile round trip from my Wisconsin home. Did some email and phone negotiation over trade value etc and then did the deal for $15k minus my trade, for my brand spanking new 2013 Vision Tour.
Love this bike, and my wife loves this bike too.
I especially love that this bike is different than every other bike I ride with.
I like that I could get a Bluetooth transmitter all setup so I can hear and control my tunes from the bike in my Sena headset.
I love that it does not leak oil on my garage floor, and I do not need a mat under it ;-)
I love that I can change my oil in 15 minutes without getting dirty!
I love that with a stock bike, I can roll on and cruise past my harley buddies on their smaller lighter bikes!
I love that I can almost keep up with my buddy who rides an ST1300, almost because he is a much more seasoned rider ;-)
I love that I can putter out of the driveway in the early morning and not wake up my neighbors.
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Jasper, MO | ljurgens - 2016-01-17 10:37 AM
(Her dad had road goldwing for many many years and she knew how comfy that was).
Can't wait to get down to the Vic Shop this summer to get the PCV, top filter and Dyno to really wake this beast up.
You might want to talk to Rylan this Winter, and possibly start saving your pennies now.
Not only do you have a bike even more comfy than a Goldwing now, and the PCV, top filter, and Dyno will show a modest improvement in power, adding VM1 cams and a rev-extension to them will give you power exceeding that of the 1800 Goldwing to boot.
The stock cams are done accelerating your bike after about 4500 RPM, no matter what else you have done.
The VM1 cams feel about the same as the stock cams up to about 4500 RPM, BUT they keep pulling hard all the way past 6000 RPM. My bike actually feels like it "wakes up" when it hits 4500 RPM and really starts to pull hard. To get all they offer, you need to raise your rev-limiter. It is a bigger gain that what the numbers look like on a Dyno sheet. You get another 1500 RPM of strong, usable power. That is a significant gain.
If you never go past 4500 RPM, you don't need them. If you ever want to show a Goldwing who is boss, get the cams and rev-extension.
Personally, I hardly ever rev much over 4000 RPM MOST of the time, even though I have the cams, but let me tell you, when I do it puts a HUGE grin on my face. The Goldwings who have tried can't keep up.
I have a stock sounding, stock appearing Vision. Stock exhaust, stock front filter, cams, top filter, VFCIII, and Lloydz reprogrammed ECU. More power, all the way from bottom to top than a GL1800. Better fuel economy too.
Discuss this with Rylan.
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West Salem, WI United States | I will Ronnie, but as you said I rarely go over 4k RPM (but would love that power when I do). It comes down to $ spent on toys and I have a graduate this spring so they will be scarce ;-) |
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Visions are still selling, albeit slower than the X-platform bikes, and are still considered the best handling Victory tourer.
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Central Illinois | VARider, I am not at all tired of my '13 Vision but this site is very slow. I seldom come here only because there is really nothing new to see here. One of the other sites is far more active and has a dedicated Vision section so I spend more time there. This place only really excels at DIY threads as far as I can tell. |
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New Bohemia, VA | this is my final site that I even check, and there was only one other that I did check but cut my loses. I guess everything is for a time. I've not rode for two weeks due to knee surgery, but I hope that will change in another week or so, serious DTs. I just remember how all of us originals would rattle away about how excited we were on our Visions and the rides we took. I figured if someone got a new one today it would have the same excitement. Everybody blames stuff on fb, but even fb has minimal discussions, at least for me. |
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New Bohemia, VA | Glen OS - 2016-01-02 7:49 PM I got my 14 Vision in July. I had been keeping an eye on this one as soon as it landed in the dealership last year. I traded my 07 KingPin in, right after spending well over $1k on maintenance and tires. The rear tire literally had only 200 miles on it. Loved the KP, bought it in Feb 11 with only 2500 miles on it, traded it in with 66k miles. My son almost ruined my car, so needed a new car but wanted a new bike. Get a new car, then no new bike anytime soon and want to kill son. So I bought the Vision. Rode out of the dealership with 44 miles on it, Monday 13 July. Did the 500 mile service on Wed and rode to NJ on Thursday. Has 6500+ miles on it now. I have been very impressed with both bikes. Loved the KP. Test rode a CCT and not impressed. Rode a Vision and instantly knew that I would get into trouble on it. End of 2010, we decided to get a bike. Went into a used bike dealership to purchase a GoldWing only to find out that I was too broken and not able to bend to fit on one. The KingPin was the first bike to fit on, but knew little about Victorys. I liked the reviews, but wasn't sure about spending 10K on a bike. Went 30 years without one, not sure if I could do a lot of riding with my body as broken as it is. So sat on over 100 bikes but kept coming back to the KingPin. The Vision is a 900 lb sportbike that tours. Welcome aboard the starship Visin. Great bike that never gets old to ride. |
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Sand Rock, AL United States | Oldman47 - 2016-01-21 3:31 PM
VARider, I am not at all tired of my '13 Vision but this site is very slow. I seldom come here only because there is really nothing new to see here. One of the other sites is far more active and has a dedicated Vision section so I spend more time there. This place only really excels at DIY threads as far as I can tell.
I come here and the VMC everyday and there is almost never any fresh discussion on either site for any of the Victory models. Only time there is activity is around model release. |
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West Salem, WI United States | Jimtom, I'm the same way with this site and the VOG, I don't go to the VMC any more because I don't like the software there. The 2 facebook Vision groups are fairly active, but they are so similar as most people post in both. Why they can't combine those two groups is beyond me.
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CASTRO VALLEY, CA United States | IMO the lack of forum activity indicates that Victory Visions are pretty reliable so there's nothing new to talk about. The bike hasn't really changed in 8 years and most mods have already been posted. No one is griping. Of course, we can always update the oil topic. I find the same issue with the Yamaha FJR forum too. Even less activity over there except with the new 2016 model with a '6th' gear finally.
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| 1/24/16: Looks like I'm gonna miss the AFC Championship game today at least, if not the NFC also, BECAUSE THE SUN CAME OUT IN THE SEATTLE-TACOMA AREA!!! Looks like we finally quit sending rain and snowstorms to the rest of the country for a day or two anyway, and my '10 8-Ball as been sitting so patiently, if forlornly, for way too long. SEEYA!! :0> |
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Sand Rock, AL United States | rainryder II - 2016-01-24 1:58 PM
1/24/16: Looks like I'm gonna miss the AFC Championship game today at least, if not the NFC also, BECAUSE THE SUN CAME OUT IN THE SEATTLE-TACOMA AREA!!! Looks like we finally quit sending rain and snowstorms to the rest of the country for a day or two anyway, and my '10 8-Ball as been sitting so patiently, if forlornly, for way too long. SEEYA!! :0>
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| Thanks for the input Jedi! I couldn't find any info on the web either. Maybe they only made a dozen 8-Balls or so... |
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New Bohemia, VA | excellent, Mike, welcome aboard Vision-Riders and the Vision! |
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Eagan, MN United States | Congrats on the new ride Mike! Hopefully you live somewhere you can enjoy it this time of year. |
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