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Puddle Jumper
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| I have a 2008 vision. Lloyds cams, timing wheel, power commander 5, big honkers. 110 hp. 118 tq
Whay mods do you have and what are your numberz |
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Cruiser
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Moncks Corner, SC United States | Same as you except VFC III, Atom Bombs, and Lloyds top filter. 112 hp 115 tq |
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Cruiser
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Virginia Beach, VA | 2013 Vision Tour, VFC III, Timing Wheel +4, Front and top filter, Ness Big Honkers. 94 hp & 114 tq. It appears that the cams get you 16-18 hp. |
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Puddle Jumper
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I have a 2008 vision. Lloyds cams, timing wheel, power commander 5, Lloyds top filter, Victory Stage 1 level 2 pipes. 118hp 115.6 Ft. Lbs. |
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Visionary
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Jasper, MO | Haze_Gray - 2015-10-15 7:54 AM
2013 Vision Tour, VFC III, Timing Wheel +4, Front and top filter, Ness Big Honkers. 94 hp & 114 tq. It appears that the cams get you 16-18 hp.
They also extend that extra power for another 1000 RPM or so over the stock cams, letting you stay in each gear much longer. That is very significant if you are trying to show your taillights off to somebody--like 1800 Goldwings.
2008 Vision Tour Premium, VFCIII, top filter, cams, Lloydz ECU, stock exhaust, stock front filter 12.60s @ 105 MPH. Goldwings can't keep up. They are consistently 4/10ths and 5 MPH slower on any given day.
Ronnie
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Puddle Jumper
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| I went to the Vic Shop in Iowa and 4-1/2 hours later, went out with 120 HP and 114 ft of torque. |
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Cruiser
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Shelbyville, IL United States | 2013 Vision 116 big bore HP cam PCV top filter timing wheel and Ness Big Honkers. 136 HP 139 ftlbs. |
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Puddle Jumper
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bowling green ky | I have a 08 vision andrews 438 cams,power commander 5,top and front hi flow filter, atom bomb pipes. My numbers are 123 hp 126 ft tork at 5800 rpm |
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Iron Butt
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| just remember a dyne operator can make them spit out whatever you want. do you smile when you twist the throttle? my Lloydz cams, vfc, rev extender and thundersticks sure do |
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Visionary
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Pittsburgh, PA | Factors that would influence the outcome of a graph include but not limited to:
Weather Conditions
Temperatures below 58 degrees
Temperatures above 96 degrees
Tire Pressures
Type and brand of Tire
Chain or belt drive
Improperly adjusted throttle cables
Improperly Adjusted Belt/Chain
Bad air conditions/Contamination
Incorrect fueling
Incorrect timing curves
Not ideal motor combinations
Improperly installed components
Additional drag on Dyno Drum, Brake/Bearings
Dirty Air Cleaners
Differences in production tolerances and Specs
Bad or Faulty sensors
Inexperienced or phony Dyno operator
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Cruiser
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Eagan, MN United States | katman - 2016-05-24 6:24 PM
I have a 08 vision andrews 438 cams,power commander 5,top and front hi flow filter, atom bomb pipes. My numbers are 123 hp 126 ft tork at 5800 rpm
Could you post your dyno sheet? I'd be interested in seeing it. Not a lot of people go with the Andrews cam and I'd like to see how it compares with the VM1-DR cams. I have similar mods to your bike but have the timing gear and adjustable intake which loses some top end numbers but gains lower and a flatter torque curve.
Thanks!
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Cruiser
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| My 2008 Vision with cams, fuel controller and stock pipes
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Visionary
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Jasper, MO | Arkainzeye - 2016-05-25 7:58 AM
Factors that would influence the outcome of a graph include but not limited to:
Weather Conditions
Temperatures below 58 degrees
Temperatures above 96 degrees
Tire Pressures
Type and brand of Tire
Chain or belt drive
Improperly adjusted throttle cables
Improperly Adjusted Belt/Chain
Bad air conditions/Contamination
Incorrect fueling
Incorrect timing curves
Not ideal motor combinations
Improperly installed components
Additional drag on Dyno Drum, Brake/Bearings
Dirty Air Cleaners
Differences in production tolerances and Specs
Bad or Faulty sensors
Inexperienced or phony Dyno operator
Add to all those factors the test parameters the dyno is set to. Just switching from SAE to STD will gain you 4 % increase with a simple flip of a switch.
A dyno is useful as a before and after comparison tool as changes are made to the bike. Comparing charts from one dyno to another is not very useful, or meaningful.
for example, if Kyle had set his dyno to a smoothing factor of 4 instead of 5, and used STD parameters instead of SAE, boatsrfun's chart would have read 120 HP instead of 114.
Kyle uses conservative settings.
The numbers people get from things like the Teresi Dyno Drag trailers are a freaking joke.
Ronnie
Edited by rdbudd 2016-05-25 11:00 AM
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Tourer
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Troy, NY | 118 HP and 117 torque with add-on in signature below |
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Puddle Jumper
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bowling green ky | This is for you rowebote
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Cruiser
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Eagan, MN United States | that's a nice looking torque curve. They really smoothed it out though. It comes on strong and stays flat for a nice long time! It's nice having that on demand isn't it? |
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Cruiser
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| Just had Kyle from KMC tune mine 113hp and 120tq
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Iron Butt
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| Who really cares what numbers we have? My Vision is completely stock except for the Jet Exhaust Tips and I can still blow away any Harley short of the mega bucks 110CI Screaming Eagle CVO versions......... If this is about bragging rights, well, I'm long past that stage in my life as I just like to ride! |
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Visionary
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| Byarddog - 2015-10-14 8:39 PM I have a 2008 vision. Lloyds cams, timing wheel, power commander 5, big honkers. 110 hp. 118 tq Whay mods do you have and what are your numberz what part of the country do you live in. what was the name of the dyno shop |
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Visionary
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Jasper, MO | Travelin Man - 2016-06-07 9:07 AM
Who really cares what numbers we have? My Vision is completely stock except for the Jet Exhaust Tips and I can still blow away any Harley short of the mega bucks 110CI Screaming Eagle CVO versions......... If this is about bragging rights, well, I'm long past that stage in my life as I just like to ride!
I don't care about numbers on a dyno chart because they don't mean much in the real world. I do care about real world performance.
I ride with a group that includes Goldwings and Harleys. Some of those Harley guys have some very impressive dyno numbers. Better than what I've seen posted here by Visions. So what? They are just dyno charts showing impressive peak numbers.
My Vision has just two of Lloydz hard parts, plus a fuel controller, and a Lloydz ECU reprogram. Stock exhaust. It looks and sounds 100% stock. It is as quiet and unassuming as a Goldwing, but it blows a GL1800 away in performance.
The mega bucks 110 CI Screaming Eagle Harleys quickly learned not to try and outrun either the GWs or my Vision. The GWs tried, but they can't keep up with my Vision either.
Ronnie
Edited by rdbudd 2016-06-11 9:36 AM
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